Mueller won’t testify because his obstruction case is garbage

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The more I listen to Robert Mueller, the less respect I have for him. He has become a corrupt politician and has disgraced his career. There has been talk of Mueller being subpoenaed to testify before Congress. Nadler insists that Mueller wants to testify- privately.

“He is willing to make an opening statement, but he wants to testify in private,” Nadler said. “We’re saying we think it’s important for the American people to hear from him and to hear his answers to questions about the report.”

So do I. More than ever.

It is said that Barr and Mueller are old friends. If so, it is a curious relationship. Mueller has crossed Barr multiple times now.

Mueller apparently had discussions with Barr prior to the release of the report. Barr issued a statement about the report summarizing the findings. Barr was under no obligation to release the report but release it he did, with minor redactions. Once the report was released Barr was assailed non-stop by democrats as a liar. Pressure built on Mueller to make a statement. He did that the other day and went out before the press and lied.

But Mueller did not mince words on his inquiry into whether the president obstructed justice.

“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that,” Mueller said. “We did not determine whether the president did commit a crime.”

Mueller explained longstanding Justice Department policy, which states that a sitting president cannot be charged with a crime.

“Charging the president with a crime was not an option we could consider,” Mueller explained, adding that “it would be unfair to accuse someone of a crime when there could be no court resolution of the charge.”

Swiftly a statement was issued jointly by Barr and Mueller spokespersons disagreeing with what Mueller has said in his statement.

“The Attorney General has previously stated that the Special Counsel repeatedly affirmed that he was not saying that, but for the OLC opinion, he would have found the President obstructed justice. The Special Counsel’s report and his statement today made clear that the office concluded it would not reach a determination — one way or the other — about whether the President committed a crime. There is no conflict between these statements,” a joint statement from DOJ spokeswoman Kerri Kupec and Mueller spokesman Peter Carr said.

Then Barr calmly added that Mueller could indeed have brought charges if he had a case.

Mueller is peddling bullsh*t and Barr is having none of it. But here’s a really critical point, and it’s a point that has long irritated the living crap out of me:

“The use of foreign intelligence capabilities and counterintelligence capabilities against an American political campaign to me is unprecedented and it’s a serious red line that’s been crossed,” Barr said in an interview with CBS.

Russian disinformation paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC was used to mobilize America’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies against an American Presidential candidate. Let’s remember that when FBI lawyer Lisa Page feared that Trump might be elected, disgraced FBI agent Peter Strzok said

“No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it”

Denying that there was a conspiracy against Trump is laughable, and Barr is on it despite plodding into headwinds:

But Barr, in an interview with CBS News that aired Friday, said he has more questions than answers at this point in the probe.

“Like many other people who are familiar with intelligence activities, I had a lot of questions about what was going on,” Barr said, referring to the origins of the Russia probe. “And I assumed I’d get answers when I went in, and I have not gotten answers that are at all satisfactory.”

He added: “In fact, I probably have more questions and some of the facts that I’ve learned don’t hang together with the official explanations of what happened.”

Barr did not elaborate further on his findings, but added: “Things are just not jibing.”

Let’s get some answers. By all means let’s get some answers. Let’s start with Robert Mueller. Make him testify. Part 1 of the Mueller Report dealt with Russian collusion and conspiracy. Mueller concluded there realistically was none of either. Part 2 dealt with the possibility of obstruction of justice by Donald Trump over a crime he did not commit. So let’s have Muller answer some questions:

“Mr. Mueller, when did you determine there was no collusion or conspiracy?”

“Mr. Mueller, if you were operating under the presumption that you could not indict a sitting President for collusion what was the point of undertaking Part 2 of your investigation? Was it to provide democrats with a road map for impeachment?”

“Mr. Mueller, was a road map for impeachment to aid democrats part of your directive from Mr. Rosenstein in the Scope Memo?”

“Mr. Mueller, can you please explain how you came to choose so many ardent Trump haters to be on your team? Can you explain the justification for adding a lawyer for the Clinton Foundation to your team?”

“Mr. Mueller, why would you choose someone with such a dodgy past as Andrew Weissman to be on your team?”

“Mr. Mueller, you said in your statement that you could not indict the President based on the OLC opinion but AG Barr said you did not reach a conclusion irrespective of the OLC opinion. Who is lying?”

When Mueller wrote

Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

It may be that Mueller knew that his potential obstruction case is garbage. Devin Nunes is pushing for release of all background source information, and it is well wort noting that at least some of the information has been altered:

The top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee sent out a tweet critical of Mueller after federal prosecutors, in compliance with an order from a federal judge, released the transcript of a voicemail former Trump lawyer John Dowd left for retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn’s lawyer Rob Kelner shortly after he agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

Mueller referenced parts of the Nov. 22, 2017, voicemail in his final report about how Dowd asks for a “heads up” if Flynn knew information that “implicates” Trump after Flynn dropped from a joint defense agreement with the president. But, as a Twitter user points out, parts of the transcript that were left out, including Dowd saying his request was “not only for the president, but for the country,” he was not asking for confidential information, and he did not appear to be certain that Flynn had decided to cooperate with Mueller’s team.

“This is why we need all backup and source documentation for the #muellerdossier released publicly. It’s all a fraud…,” Nunes tweeted in reply.

Barr had asserted that the DOJ had a different take on the analysis than did Mueller:

Barr told CBS News chief legal correspondent Jan Crawford that the Department of Justice determined “many of the instances” Mueller found “would not amount to obstruction” as a matter of law.

“[W]e didn’t agree with … a lot of the legal analysis in the report. It did not reflect the views of the Department. It was the views of a particular lawyer or lawyers, and so we applied what we thought was the right law,” he explained.

“The bottom line was that Bob Mueller identified some episodes,” Barr added. “He did not reach a conclusion. He provided both sides of the issue, and his conclusion was he wasn’t exonerating the president, but he wasn’t finding a crime either.”

Barr went on to say it is up to Mueller if he wants to testify before Congress, but he did say he does not think the line Mueller drew about sticking to his report is “the proper line.”

Inquiring minds want to know. No wonder Mueller doesn’t want to testify in public. Let Mueller testify.

In public.

 

 

 

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@Nathan Blue, #198:

We are, in fact, a Constitutional Republic. Modern Democrat propaganda aims to muddy this, as words are of great value to the Left’s childish propaganda machine.

Yeah, right. Did you not understand a thing that was said in post #193, all of which is factual?

Liberal media is awash with attempts to somehow lay claim to the US government bearing the title of “democratic” in some way, as a propaganda device and nothing more.

The word democratic in the Democratic Party name stems from the Greek word demos, meaning the people, or the population as a whole. Party emphasis is on the needs and concerns of the common man, rather than on fulfilling the wishes of a minority of wealthy, wanna-be-aristocratic twits—one of which has recently reduced the GOP to a party of spineless, retribution-fearing nincompoops, merely by behaving like a playground bully.

You’ve no longer got a GOP; you’ve got The Party of Trump, which has totally come loose from its common-sense, traditional conservative morals and moorings. This guy has no qualities worthy of admiration, and more than a few worthy of contempt.
In the words of the late, great Kurt Vonnegut: “I could carve a better man out of a banana.”

@Richard Wheeler:

Dep Absolute power—Seems that’s Trump’s objective –screw Congress and load The Court–if I lose in 2020 I MAY JUST STAY LOL

Apparently you haven’t heard about the content of HR-1 or of the Democrat proposals to load the Supreme Court, eliminate the Electoral College, let illegal immigrants vote and stamp out freedom of thought and speech. Or else you simply like it.

No misunderstanding here, you just dodged the questions: what did Trump say that insulted anyone that served in Vietnam for their service or where I demeaned anyone that served.

@Richard Wheeler: Are you really trying to deny the cities in your state have a homeless crises, that there is human feces on the streets of downtown San Fran?
https://www.insideedition.com/woman-says-she-got-typhus-working-rat-infested-city-hall-53321
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-rats-homelessness-city-hall-fleas-report.
There are enough stories on the internet I did not see it on the tele.
Well the poop problem theres an AP for that https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/human-wasteland-map-plots-all-of-san-franciscos-poop
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/SF-not-as-green-as-it-thinks-on-garbage.
Its denial that makes it all better.
It ok Rich there are many nice places to vacation right here close to home, no rats, no poop, no trash, no homeless drug addicts wandering around and no typhus or plague.
I guess thats why the Dems chose Milwaukee for their convention. they can all deny whats happening in the rest of the county. Walk the lakeshore without looking at mounds of garbage. If they feel homesick they can just drop down to Chicago and catch up on the shootings.
Are you going to answer my question about Trumps behavior?

@kitt: Remember, it’s EVERYONE ELSE that’s delusional and ignores the facts.

@Richard Wheeler:

Got my Marines 5 miles south

Just remember, those Marines gave Obama a 26% approval rating when he left office. The military overall gave him a little over 30%. Trump’s last approval with the military/Vets was in the 60% neighborhood and 60% of those same people voted for R’s in 2018 so this country’s Marines’ views are far more in line with the people you knock than you. I’m also sure they don’t share your tacit approval of Obama’s weaponization of our government; disdain for due process; support for trashing the 2A; support for open borders etc. etc. But I’m sure those fine Marines respect your right to disagree with them unlike your party that promotes censorship and violence towards those with opposing views.

I see you never got back to me with the full transcript of Trump’s VN comments. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn’t selectively edit them like you did with Mueller’s, I think they were wrong just like when Larry Weisenthal made almost identical comments a few years back. You were on that thread and I was waiting for you to call him out but you said nothing. Proof once again that it’s not what was said, but who said it that makes a difference.

As for “blasting” Obama about the Syria red line, here are your comments from a thread on that subject (9/04/2013). You posted quite frequently there saying something needed to be done but only brought up Obama twice:

When has Obama asked for open ended approval? He won’t ask and it certainly wouldn’t be approved.

I think we agree much of this is fueled by ODS.

And about Assad:

His days are numbered and he knows it.

(He’s still there and it’s been going on six years).

Sounds like you defended him, not “blasted” him.

As to the assertions of how much Trump has changed everyone, here are some comments about FA posters from that same thread:

some people here are dumber than dirt.

You’re as stupid as R.T.

R.T. Frick and Frack the two fools. Ask Mata if she thinks I insulted her.She’s a lot smarter than you two idiots.

Crass and low class from your mind

And from another thread in 2015 (pre-Trump again):

The reason I visit this site is because I continue to be amazed how far out of touch with REALITY The large majority of these posters continue to be.
It’s a guilty pleasure. A car wreck I can’t take my eyes off.

Your opinion of people here is the same now as it was before Trump was even a candidate. A clear sign of TDS.

@another vet: Thanks for at least reading my stuff–if somewhat selectively
I I assure you I called out Obama for not blasting ASSAD “BACK INTO THE STONE AGE.”
i SAID i came here to “learn from Conservatives like Mata, Aye Chi and Word.”
Could you be clearer on Larry’s comment?
Thanks for your service

@rich wheeler: I’ll refresh your memory from that thread. His comment was almost identical to the one Trump made. He talked about how little he knew of what was going on over there until he witnessed a protest or something like that in California and became “woke” so to speak (he didn’t use that term) as to what was going on. He stated he had no intention of going there and didn’t believe in the war effort, something he stated more than once. He even stated that it wasn’t true that China had troops there despite the fact that China itself admitted to it thus supporting CIA claims that they had combat troops there, in particular AA batteries. Unlike Bill, whom you’ve ridiculed on multiple occasions for not going, he would have gone when the war was at its peak as opposed to when it and the draft were winding down and a lot of people weren’t going like it was in Bill’s case.

Muellers report nothing but a carefully crafted propaganda hit job on Trump. https://www.theepochtimes.com/5-discrepancies-call-the-accuracy-of-muellers-report-into-question_2951924.html?ref=brief_News&utm_source=Epoch+Times+Newsletters&utm_campaign=147bd2fa30-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_06_05_06_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4fba358ecf-147bd2fa30-238639657
No wonder he doesnt want to testify he would have to answer for the deceptive editing.
They wont hand over evidence Flynns sentencing judge ordered now when sentencing come close Flyn is dumping his team of lawyers, maybe his lawyers should have requested recordings earlier? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-06/michael-flynn-fires-his-lawyers-ahead-of-his-sentencing?srnd=politics-vp

@kitt:

Muellers report nothing but a carefully crafted propaganda hit job on Trump.

The “insurance policy”. It was also designed to cover up the real crimes and abuses of power that occurred. Somehow I think Mueller may have been played by the DS and was utilized as a figurehead to give the operation the appearance of “legitimacy”.

It’ll be interesting to see what Steele has to tell Durham. His version of facts and the FBI’s version of facts are in direct conflict. One is lying.

@kitt:

No wonder he doesnt want to testify he would have to answer for the deceptive editing.

Now, you know that the editing of evidence in one of the most important reports in American history was just for brevity’s sake. Greg said it, so it is doubtlessly true.

@another vet: Isn’t it odd that Rich, a Vietnam veteran, would support Bernie who honeymooned in the Soviet Union and loved that nation? Those were the guys, you know, that were the major benefactors of the enemy he was fighting that undoubtedly killed or wounded many of his friends. So, let’s see… Rich fights communists but votes for a guy who praises and admires communists. Odd?

@Deplorable Me:

Rich fights communists but votes for a guy who praises and admires communists. Odd?

I made a similar comment before he denounced Antifa. The Party has a dwindling number of non radical leftists in it. Those non radical leftists (supplemented by Kalifornia’s ballot harvesting) were the key to the dems regaining the House just like 2006. As the Party gets more radicalized, those same dwindling moderates will see their seats put in jeopardy through guilt by association. I once posted the link to the CPUSA’s web site with the preamble to their “constitution” and it reads like the dems’ platform. The dems of the past that I admired like John Glenn and Bob Kerrey are virtually an extinct species.

@Deplorable Me: I never “supported” Bernie—Think he’s a clown. I was for Webb hoping he’d run as an Indie since Dems shut him out. My primary vote for Bernie was anti-HRC. also thought Webb a better chance against Bernie and Repub–at that point unknown (thought probably Rubio. Webb decided against running—-still got Webb 2016 on my bumper
Again–IMO DT’S “not a fan of that war” so I didn’t go—basically insults all Vets who didn’t feel as young men they could refuse “to go far away” because they didn’t feel like it–and anyone who accepts that thinking is also insulting Vets

Trump made a good speech today—-Then he insults Marine Platoon Commander, Bronze Star recipient Mueller.—doesn’t know when to shut up==

AV—Marine Glenn Navy Seal Kerry great Dems—Webb in same vein–would have made a great Prez—-I could have voted Kasich or Rubio Think YOU understand why I can’t stand Trump.

@Richard Wheeler: Sorry you think of Mueller so highly he proved how far he has lowered himself by choosing Weissman to be on his team. Weissmann’s history of disregard of the special responsibilities of a federal prosecutor.

@another vet: The Democrats are running off anyone that will not fully subscribe to their baby-killing cult. They’ve even forced Genius Gropin Joe to renounce his support for the Hyde Amendment; they want abortions taxpayer funded. The Democrats get far left fast enough.

@Richard Wheeler:

@Deplorable Me: I never “supported” Bernie—Think he’s a clown.

I thought you supported him in the California primary. Do I have that wrong?

Again, a write-in for Webb was a vote for Hillary.

Trump made a good speech today—-Then he insults Marine Platoon Commander, Bronze Star recipient Mueller.—doesn’t know when to shut up==

As much as I love and respect all active duty and veterans, having served is not a blank check to be a scumbab. Mueller is a scumbab. He persecuted General Flynn (also decorated military) to try and get him to lie for him. He has manipulated and edited testimony and evidence to inflict damage on Trump. Because he didn’t have the evidence to find a crime Trump committed, he took the cowards way out and claimed he wasn’t “allowed” to, a complete lie.
Mueller became a pawn of the coup. Weak and anti-American.

@Deplorable Me: @Deplorable Me:

He persecuted General Flynn

John Dowd, another one he tried slandering by selectively editing his phone call, is a former Marine as well.

He has manipulated and edited testimony and evidence to inflict damage on Trump.

More evidence of that came out today. Some of the people identified as being linked to Russia have in fact been linked to the DoS, Lynch, and/or the Clintons. I wonder if Weissman wrote the report with all those lies in there and Mueller let him do it as part of a set up to nail the DS. He had to have known that being that blatant with putting out bogus claims that they would be exposed once the report was scrutinized. He is either extremely stupid, extremely arrogant, or was part of a sting operation.

@another vet: Evidence also shows that it may be that the Steele dossier was created by the Hillary campaign and handed off to Steele to provide more “credibility”. There is not a single aspect of the accusations and actions against Trump that does not totally STINK out loud.

@Richard Wheeler:

Think YOU understand why I can’t stand Trump.

Because he is accused of being guilty of what your side is guilty of? Because, unlike preferred Republicans like McCain and Romney, he doesn’t fold and fights back with a vengeance?

Webb in same vein

Jim Webb has a lot different take on your party than you do.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/02/12/jim_webb_democratic_party_has_moved_very_far_to_the_left.html#!

Jim Webb obviously has a different take on PT than you do and gets why he was elected and why people support him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/04/jim-webb-id-vote-for-trump-but-not-clinton/?utm_term=.d09eb403105e

https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/jim-webb-applauds-donald-trump-says-election-shows-democrats-have/article_632741ab-b3ec-546d-af5c-585d8c483e87.html

Obviously, you are not in the same category as Jim Webb.

A lot of whirling copters over head—-we’ll see.

One side denigrates Mueller—the other side Barr—60% can’t stand Trump–40% love him

Keeps the blogs humming.

Any of you smart enough to have purchased Beyond Meat BYND at ii’s $25 offering price 3 weeks ago? Trading at $135 today—the future is here.

@another vet: Read it again—-be honest
Jim Webb NEVER said he would vote for Trump.

Have you seen me praising HRC or any far left Dems. My political beliefs very similar to my fellow Marine Captain/ Viet Nam Vet.

@Deplorable Me: I think it was Mark Meadows who said when the documents that are to be declassified are made public, it’ll curl your hair. Notice how jittery and desperate they are getting? There is speculation that the FBI honcho that the IG id’d as breaking the law and committing unethical acts that the DOJ declined to prosecute was Strzok and the reason they didn’t prosecute was being because he flipped. Considering how high up in the coup he was, if he did flip, it would have been on people higher than him meaning the upper reaches of the Obama administration.

@Richard Wheeler: I wont touch the product, there are enough issues with manufactured processed food stuffs.
What is that stuff made from, is it gmo free?
But if you invested good luck with your portfoilio.

@Richard Wheeler: @Richard Wheeler:

Read it again—-be honest
Jim Webb NEVER said he would vote for Trump.

I didn’t say he would vote for Trump. You made that up. His exact words:

Pressed on whether he would vote for Donald Trump, Webb said he was “not sure” but had not ruled it out.

My exact words:

Jim Webb obviously has a different take on PT than you do and gets why he was elected and why people support him.

Be honest, his above words are different, far different as a matter of fact, than your words about Trump whom you said you could NEVER vote for. Big difference between “could” and “never”. You also claim you can’t understand why people would vote for him or support him. Webb does. BIG difference there too.

Have you seen me praising HRC or any far left Dems.

AOC for one. Remember how you defended her saying she was a good looking Latina who was still wet behind the ears? I haven’t exactly seen you criticize any of them but you have criticized people who criticize their Marxist policies like the Green New Deal. You have also defended Hillary from being prosecuted for compromising our national security. Then there was BHO for 8 years plus. Obamacare. Redistribution of wealth (the very definition of Marxism). Praising OWS who openly embraced Marxism. Weaponizing government to spy on people with opposing political beliefs. Apologizing for “American arrogance” on a continent where hundreds of thousands of Americans shed blood fighting THEIR wars. If that’s not far left I don’t know what is. Give some examples of what you think far left is.

My political beliefs very similar to my fellow Marine Captain/ Viet Nam Vet.

So you support the right for people to fly the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (aka the “Confederate flag” as it is erroneously called)? You support concealed carry? You agree our 2A rights “shall not be infringed” (Webb had an ‘A’ rating from the NRA and spoke at their conventions)? You agree that your party has moved too far to the left? You agree that Trump’s election was in part because people got fed up with the elitist attitude of DC as opposed to them being just a bunch of racist neanderthals (the position of your party)?

@another vet: Now it’s discovered that even though Bruce Ohr had been demoted at the DOJ, he got a $28,000 bonus and a raise. Sounds like “shut up” money to me.

That doesn’t sound like “whirling helicopters” to me. Neither does Mueller editing evidence or leaving out vital details… like his witnesses were not Russian assets but worked for FBI, State or CIA instead.

@another vet:

In response to you, Wheeler said:

I answer questions–usually ignored or misunderstood I’m afraid.

In post #124, I responded to this statement of Wheeler:

I’m good with the Mueller report as presented—no collusion but many examples of obstruction.

I asked him this:

And those “examples” of obstruction meet with Anderson requirements how?

I asked Wheeler the same question again in #146.

NO ANSWER.

So for Wheeler to say that he answers questions is blatantly dishonest on his part. But what he will do is misquote you and then slam you for what he misquotes. That’s his M.O. He will also slam those who have not worn the uniform of our nation, while admitting he voted for both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, as well as voting for Bernie Sanders, claiming it was a protest vote against Hillary (although there were a number of other candidates in the California presidential primary he could have voted for instead of Commie Bernie).

I think most of us know that honesty is not Wheeler’s forte. He’s just an Manchurian candidate.

@retire05: His holding the rest of us to a different set of standards is why I asked him what he sees when he looks down on the rest of us. The last time I asked all I got was that he doesn’t and some feel good stuff about caring about illegal immigrants.

So for Wheeler to say that he answers questions is blatantly dishonest on his part.

He usually doesn’t answer mine either as evident in this thread.

@retire05: @another vet: Let’s be serious-does anyone think my questions get answered with any regularity? It’s usually somethin like ” you answer mine first” or total disregard. chicken/egg–goes round and round–reason I’m not here very much—people make statements–then insult those who disagree–tiresome.

This was not the case in days of Mata, Aye Chi and Word—I truly miss em

Re Webb I liked him as a proven leader of men—a man of both strength and compassion, CIVILITY,self confident with ability to surround himself with good people. Didn’t see these important qualities in HRC OR DTI
Would have trusted and respected his leadership and been proud to have him as our POTUS

@retire05: Did you consider that you may have misunderstood his non-answer as no answer?

@Richard Wheeler: Independents dont ever win, The DNC so crooked they might as well skip the primary season and just raise money for the main event.
What is there about the democrat platform that makes you a democrat?
What is in their policies that will achieve the goals of their platform?
What I see is huge promises they cant possibly keep,
they want to spent trillions of our dollars on climate change, can any of them control the weather?( outside of conspiracy theories)
Does the US downward trend in CO2 have any relationship with poverty and government dependence?
Free College, a really bad idea as the details of free are not transparent, loan forgiveness, what about those that have already paid? They created quite a crisis of debt for the grads who took up majors that no one hires for.
Payment for slavery…seriously how stupid is that?

@Richard Wheeler:

: @another vet:

Let’s be serious-does anyone think my questions get answered with any regularity?

Yes, I think most try to answer your questions.

It’s usually somethin like ” you answer mine first” or total disregard. chicken/egg–goes round and round–reason I’m not here very much—

And you think that is not because you have a nasty habit of trying to answer a question with a question? That is typical liberal way of responding and you have perfected that down to a science.

people make statements–then insult those who disagree–tiresome.

But calling conservatives “Trumpsters” is A-OK, right (as if we didn’t know that Trumpsters rhyme with dumpsters)?

This was not the case in days of Mata, Aye Chi and Word—I truly miss em

Only because they agreed with your liberal b/s and would attack anyone who disagreed with them. Your support group is gone, Wheeler. All you have left is fellow Commie Greggie Goebbels.

@Deplorable Me:

Did you consider that you may have misunderstood his non-answer as no answer?

I’m sure he will use that as his excuse.

He claims his vote for Comrade Bernie was a protest vote against Hillary even though there were at least 7 other candidates on his California presidential ballot, not counting Trump, Hillary and Bernie.

Must have been a heckofa journey for Wheeler. He went from fighting against the Communists to voting for one in less than 50 years

@retire05: I don’t understand a “protest vote” for someone that is possibly as big or bigger scumbag than the person you are protesting. Of course, there is no possible way to verify a vote one way or another…

Maybe Trump’s lack of service in the military is driving him to do more for the military and veterans today. One would think any veteran would be pleased by this, whatever they think about Trump’s personality or policies. One would think that firing inefficient and ineffective VA administrators instead of allowing them to leave with full pension and benefits and never addressing the problems would be welcomed by not only all veterans but all Americans. But, apparently Trump hatred has to take precedence. That is a mental sickness.

@Deplorable Me:

Maybe Trump’s lack of service in the military is driving him to do more for the military and veterans today. One would think any veteran would be pleased by this, whatever they think about Trump’s personality or policies. One would think that firing inefficient and ineffective VA administrators instead of allowing them to leave with full pension and benefits and never addressing the problems would be welcomed by not only all veterans but all

Being one of those who lost my private health insurance compliments of Obamacare, the VA became my sole provider. I have noticed a marked improvement since Trump took over, although there is still room for improvement. The waiting times aren’t as long. The attitudes have improved. In general they are more responsive. I believe part of it has to do with getting rid of the ash and trash who were there to collect a paycheck and didn’t give a rat’s ass about their “clients”. The other factor is that Trump made it much easier to go outside the VA for healthcare. If people start going outside the VA they lose “business” meaning their employment is no longer needed thus forcing them to provide better service in order to keep “clients” and stay in business. It’s that competition/capitalism thing that Marxists despise.

But, apparently Trump hatred has to take precedence.

It’s all about the power and control. They hate him because not only isn’t he a fellow left winger, he can’t be controlled. Not being able to control others absolutely terrifies the left.

I’m taking a 3 week June trip-back for the debates and later the primaries

Would suggest more attention to detail For instance I have never called anyone a Trumpster–rhymes with dumpster??

What the hell are “Anderson requirements.”

@Richard Wheeler, #233:

Having no clue myself, I did a Google search. The “Anderson requirements” have to do with People v. Anderson, 398 Mich. 361, 247 N.W.2d 857 (1976), a case which clarified the circumstances under which a court may accept a defendant’s dismissal of legal counsel and request to represent themselves in court.

What that has to do with the question of Trump’s pattern of behavior that over a thousand former prosecutors and trial attorneys interpret as obstruction of justice is beyond me, but I am not a lawyer, nor do I pretend to be one on television. Even if I were, experts in any field are not to be trusted. They all have ulterior motives and are involved in conspiracies to suppress The Truth. Let us not forget that human activities are completely unrelated to rising global temperature and climate change, despite the fact that the vast majority of climate scientists warn that it is.

@Richard Wheeler:

I’m taking a 3 week June trip-back for the debates and later the primaries

\Careful if you listen to them closely you could come back a Republican (insert scary music)

@Greg:

Let us not forget that human activities are completely unrelated to rising global temperature and climate change, despite the fact that the vast majority of climate scientists warn that it is.

Vast majority? There were about 235 papers in the 2004 article, or 25%, that endorsed the position. If you are getting grant money to prove a political stance the percentage goes up. Since when is consensus science? How many climate models have been correct? I should be growing orange trees and not waiting til frost warnings are over to put in the garden.
Doesnt change the fact Mueller couldnt pony up for obstruction.
Happy Flag Day.

June 10, 2019 — Justice Dept. Agrees to Turn Over Key Mueller Evidence to House

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department, after weeks of tense negotiations, has agreed to provide Congress with key evidence collected by Robert S. Mueller III that could shed light on possible obstruction of justice and abuse of power by President Trump, the House Judiciary Committee said on Monday.

The exact scope of the material the Justice Department has agreed to provide was not immediately clear, but the committee signaled that it was a breakthrough after weeks of wrangling over those materials and others that the Judiciary panel demanded under subpoena.

The announcement appeared to provide a rationale for House Democrats’ choice, announced last week, to back away from threats to hold Attorney General William P. Barr in contempt of Congress. The House will still proceed on Tuesday with a vote to empower the Judiciary Committee to take Mr. Barr to court to fully enforce its subpoena, but even that may no longer be necessary, the panel’s leader said.

“We have agreed to allow the department time to demonstrate compliance with this agreement. If the Department proceeds in good faith and we are able to obtain everything that we need, then there will be no need to take further steps,” Representative Jerrold Nadler of New York, the committee chairman, said in a statement. “If important information is held back, then we will have no choice but to enforce our subpoena in court and consider other remedies.”

@Greg: Does anyone actually think Democrats will shut up then? Like the report itself, the further proof that Trump has committed more crimes will only prompt more demands.

@Greg: They never had an issue about handing over evidence it has to be cleared before giving it to them no more secure than sending it to a server in russia.

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