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The other day while shopping at COSTCO I observed something that piqued my interest. Two blonde women were shopping together, one of whom was struggling to push a cart loaded with….wait for it.…an 11-year-old, healthy boy. The boy was gangly, as 11-year-olds tend to be, and he was focused like a laser on an IPAD. He was oblivious to what was happening around him as he was chauffeured swiftly from aisle to aisle. The first thought that entered my mind was wonder-like I wondered if I could get a hot dog for lunch and not have to share it with my wife (lol). The second thought I had spun me back to raising my own kids. I was very sensitive raising my children and might have softly said something enlightened like, “Michael, get the hell out of that cart before I knock you into next week!” Today that warning would perhaps be considered borderline child abuse, but Michael got the message loud and clear.

The kid in the cart also reminded me of my youth, growing up in the fifties and sixties (yes, I’m old). We used to play sports outside all day and only return home for dinner. Then we would devour our food and run back outside to play some more until the street lights came on. We were competitive and physically fit. Winners celebrated their victories and losers slinked away in abject shame. Ties were verboten. Today, I drive past empty football fields, baseball fields, tennis courts and wonder what happened to the youth of America. Where did they all go? Unfortunately, many of the kids in the U.S.A. are obese and physically unfit. The kid in the cart could never be drafted into the military and fight in one of our extended foreign wars. I wondered if that was such a bad thing?



The Viet Nam War (1954-1975) cost the lives of over 58,000 brave men and women members of the U.S. armed forces. Thousands of others suffered lifetime disabilities, including Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), many of whom ended up homeless and sleeping in the streets across our land. “Thanks for your service,” mocks them as they are forgotten and discarded by a society for which they sacrificed so much.

The Afghanistan War (2011-2021) cost the lives of 2,300 brave men and women members of the U.S. armed forces. Thousands of others suffered lifetime disabilities, including PTSD, many of whom ended up homeless and sleeping in the streets across the land. Wait a minute, this war is deja vu. We wasted a trillion dollars ($1,000,000,000,000) and valuable lives on another protracted war that we never should have fought in the first place. Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires. I think that motto is emblazoned on their license plates. According to Douglas Lute, a three-star Army general who served in the White House, “What are we trying to do here? We didn’t have the foggiest notion of what we were undertaking.”

Now that is an embarrassing statement. No one at the Pentagon has the slightest clue how to fight and win a war, today or yesterday. General Douglas MacArthur knew the answer in 1951. He said, “War’s very object is victory, not prolonged indecision. In war, there is no substitute for victory.”

I wanted to ask the 58,000 men and women who never left Vietnam alive and the 2,300 men and women who shed their blood in Afghanistan their opinion. All they could whisper is, “WE LOVED OUR COUNTRY. WE DID OUR DUTY AND WE WERE WILLING TO SACRIFICE OUR LIVES TO KEEP YOU SAFE.”

The kid in the cart should enjoy the ride while he can. Life comes at you in a hurry.
 

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lost many buddies in Nam. Wife and daughter pushed me for years to see “WALL” . I finally relented about 20 years ago. got about half way nd just broke down. Cry, shake, md a Hell. They had to send 2 men to pull me away! I will never forget and never forgive!~ Good men! Picked up 3 heart but lived.

lost 2 in Nam.. my third spotter died from leukemia. I have been to the WALL, twice, never gone down. I know where their names are. It drains the emotions out of you. Close my eyes and they are with me.. As with life, soon the three of us will be together.
To bad the young communist have no idea of the courage it take to engage in a firefight and win..SimperFi

After Obama’s purge of real military leaders, came Biden’s push for our military to become home base for wannabe trannys.
Too many or our “soldiers” are out there with their bag of hormone replacement pills and shots.
What real men we had in our military are being forced to pick between staying or refusing a so-called vaccine that is just dangerous enough and unhelpful enough to not be worth the risk.

Hey…greg was in Vietnam! Wonder what he thinks?

From fighting Communists to being one.

Who would have thunk it?

I think some people learned no lesson from Vietnam, learned no lesson from Iraq, and will learn no lesson from Afghanistan. I think if you gave them half a chance, they’d try the same damn thing in Iran with the same or worse results.

It’s not the fault of the ones who go, it’s the fault of the ones who do the sending.

Oh, some of us learned great lessons from Vietnam, and Iraq, and now Afghanistan. Never, ever allow a Democrat to run a war. All Democrats know how to do, since the days of Harry Truman, is lose wars; Vietnam, Iraq and now, Afghanistan.

Why don’t you tell us what happened after we left Vietnam, with our tail between our legs, Comrade Greggie?

A Democratic president led the nation through World War One, as I recall. A Democratic president lifted the country from the depths of the Great Depression, and then led it through the Second World War to total victory over European fascism and Imperial Japan.

Vietnam cost us 58,220 lives. That was more than enough to convince me that we should enter wars that we aren’t likely to win.

In the case of Afghanistan, the problem was never our own lack of commitment. There was plenty of that—for twenty long years.

…that we SHOULDN’T enter wars that we aren’t likely to win.

The Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were won easily.

Their occupation however it was never meant to be permanent.

The globe will unite on a new level of human ingenuity and motivation if China DARES to expand and infect the world with their Stone age ideologies and third world culture.

I mean they can’t handle virus containment, so they really can’t handle anything else on the global stage.

You seem to forget that a Democrat campaigned at keeping the US out of WWI, only to shove us in it once he won. And that the Democrat in the White House in 1941 actually loved this nation, unlike the current crop of Marxists now posing as Democrats. Democrats gave up the will to win during the Korean War. And stopped believing in American excellence because to do so is sooooooo “nationalist”.

You also seem to forget that Democrats decided in the ’60’s that we could no longer conduct “total” war where we actually win. It was the beginning of our woke military. General Milley is the result of that remaking of our fighting forces. A total disaster who needs to retire, yesterday.

And why am I not surprised that you defend China still. Do you still have your Chinese uniform, Comrade?

Wilson lied us INTO WWI. Read history. Specifically lied us into that war.
Amity Schlaes has a great book on how Roosevelt’s policies prolonged the depression. ERP.
It took a hell of a long time to get Roosevelt up out of his wheelchair and get involved, and Truman had to be pushed into dropping the bomb. ERP.
Deming had more to do with ending Japan’s fascism and frankly, can Europe be described as non-fascist? ERP.
Turn over every ugly rock of history, and a D is underneath it.
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

You have no clue what you’re talking about.

Wilson tried to keep America OUT of the First World War. Keeping us out was the centerpiece of his foreign policy from 1914 to April 1917. He campaigned for and won reelection based on that policy.

He only changed his position after Germany began attacking U.S. merchant ships. A German warship attacked and sank the U.S. merchant ship William P. Frye in January 1915. Germany attacked and sank another nine U.S. merchant vessels before Wilson finally asked Congress for a Declaration of War.

U.S. public sentiment had shifted away from support for his position of neutrality to a demand for action by then. A German U-boat’s sinking of the passenger ship Lusitania without warning had much to do with the shift; 1,195 lives were lost, including 128 Americans. What would you expect an American president to do?

“I think if you gave [Biden] half a chance, they’d try the same damn thing in [Syria] with the same or worse results.”

I guess the guy using this account that claims to be a Vietnam Vet isn’t currently posting.

It will interesting to see how China does it when they finally become the “world-super-power” they seem so dead set on becoming..rather than building a viable infrastructure for their citizens, learning to contain their own US-funded virus research, and learning that organ harvesting/ethnic slavery is wrong.

If China “does it”, they will do it by building their own manufacturing base and infrastructure while watching us stupidly bleed ourselves dry. We seem to be suckers for long, drawn out, asymmetrical conflicts halfway around the world that we have no real prospect of winning. We always seem ready to take the bait.

We’ve spend six-and-a-half TRILLION dollars on wars in the Middle East since 2001, without having much to show for it but lost lives.

Al Qaeda’s 9/11 attack, which set the whole thing off, cost them an estimated $500 thousand.

So who’s been stupid?

I love baiting this idiot greg into admitting he a) works for the Chinese Communist Party, and b) is not American.

I’m afraid gutter oil and goods sold at Walmart are not going to support the third-world Chinese military as well as you hope.

Gotcha, bitch.

And the Chinese became industrial giants because Democrats believe taxing businesses out of existence is a good idea.

If we had spent $6.4 trillion building our own American infrastructure rather than on the Middle East wars that got us to the images we’re seeing today on our Chinese-made televisions, maybe we would be much better off. This might be a good time to think about that.

What if we had spent the $865 billion that was supposed to be for infrastructure from Obama’s “stimulus” instead on rewarding campaign supporters and bribing voters? Still a poor excuse for idiot Biden’s absolute failure.

Trump was building our infrastructure.

Biden stopped it. He stopped our energy independence, too.

This might be a good time to think about that, Zhang.

Three delusional statements in a row. That might be something to think about.

You can re-caption the picture any way you want, but it’s still the same damn picture: Given every advantage and every opportunity, we’ve repeatedly been the victims of our own foolishness. We do the same things again and again, expecting different results. Nobody is doing it TO us. We’re doing it to ourselves.

The only thing truly foolish we’ve done in the past 40 years is let China buy it’s way into education, media, and entertainment.

The sentiment you’re fomenting above is simple, and tired, marxist propaganda.

The botched pullout is Biden’s fault and Biden’s alone.

Biden’s fault alone? Trump drew down our forces in Afghanistan to only 2500 before he left office. Did you forget that, or not know in the first place?

That was in addition to replacing top Pentagon officials with Trump loyalists a month before he left.

January 15, 2021 – Pentagon says US has dropped to 2,500 troops in Afghanistan

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-afghanistan-taliban-united-states-16cc1dd5b2f74d463311d212ad0d215a

Biden changed the plan.

Did you forget that, or not know in the first place?

Biden also changed the plan with covid and at the border.

Now the virus is spreading again and kids are dying in cages.

Trump fixed this. Biden broke it.

You have to actually win elections to earn the right to lead, you know.

What plan was that? Nobody KNEW of any plan, not even in the Pentagon. Was leaving Biden with 2500 troops on the ground part of it? How was THAT supposed to work, with Trump’s sudden announcement that we’d be out by May 1st, and his last minute replacement of top Pentagon officials?

How many more years, more lives, and more trillions would you spend on a country that doesn’t have the commitment to save itself? We’ve already given plenty.

The fact is that Biden is actually DOING what Trump only claimed he would to do, knowing full well he will be blamed for much that he has no control over.

The alternative? We’ve seen 20 years of the alternative. The alternative is how we got to this point.

Biden is markedly UN-DOING virtually everything Trump did successfully.

Afghanistan is just another failure for our first Dictator.

Biden changed Trump’s specific plan on how to move our of Afghanistan and did it poorly.

It’s on Biden and Biden alone.

It’s going to be harder to photocopy those ballots in 2022 and 2024 when we see you hapless sheep voters are starting to sour on Biden, in the millions.

Biden has shown it easier to babble in senility than actually DO what Trump did so, so easily:

Lead.

Lots of assertions—with nothing actually backing them up. That’s pretty much what was wrong with believing anything Trump or his media tools said from the start.

Yeah, the Nazi’s, Maoists, and Soviets all parroted “you can’t back that up” until we found the camps and mass graves.

Biden’s failures, and need to resign and restore our democracy, are facts.

Hope you’re recruiting all the “Capitol Police” you need to silence normal Americans, you Marxist tool.

Mao was a coward.

I guess I have to remind you again that the guy playing president is the guy you wanted. He (or those loading his teleprompter and moving his arms) is in charge and, supposedly, making the decisions. He could have stopped abandoning bases and equipment at any time. He could have continued and increased airstrikes at any time. He went for ice cream instead.

Indeed, I voted for Joe Biden, and am thankful every day that a 7-million-majority of American voters sent Trump packing. That includes today.

Comrade Greggie, about that 7 million claim; when you are being honest, you don’t mind when people want to check your honesty. But the DNC is doing all it can to prevent any audits of elections. Why? Because America became one large Box 13 in November 2020. Or Chicago in 1960.

Biden isn’t even in charge. Idiots like Blinken, of the Winken, Blinken and Nod stooges, are running the show along with Susan Rice of Mao love fame. Biden is just a senile pile of flesh that can’t even walk down a sidewalk without SS directing him to turn right.

So try as you might, Trump, who you are obsessed with, is not responsible for Biden’s Afghanistan failure.

Trump’s supporters have audited the results up, down, and sideways, multiple times in multiple places, without once finding a damn bit of credible evidence of any significant voting or tabulation irregularities. They’ll NEVER be satisfied with the election results because reality will NEVER comply with their expectations or wishes, so I’m pretty much done wasting my time arguing about it.

Apparently you want to repeat the idiocy of the GOP having worked for 8 years to “assure Obama’s failure” with the Biden administration—even if that involves resisting efforts to bring a pandemic under control and keeping us in the quagmire in the Middle East indefinitely. It wouldn’t be so bad if they had viable alternative approaches, but they don’t.

What exactly WAS that “plan” Trump supposedly left behind, that was going to get us out of Afghanistan by May 1st while still allowing us to impose conditions? Like his cheaper and better alternative to Obamacare, IT DIDN’T REALLY EXIST. But Trump made agreements with the Taliban and withdrew US troops below the level of criticality AS IF IT REALLY DID, all in the final months before he left office in the most un-statesmanlike manner imaginable. The Trump-run Pentagon announced that a mere 2500 remained ONLY DAYS before Biden took office. I remember all of this, even if you don’t.

Oh, I remember, you Commie bastard. I remember Saigon. And I will always remember Kabul, as well. You can defend Senile Saigon Joe Biden all you want but you are wrong. And since you brought up Obama, remember what he said about Joe Biden “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.”

Clearly, Obama knew what he was talking about when it came to the CCP sell out, Joe Biden. Or are you now going to claim that Obama was wrong about Biden?

You think I don’t remember Saigon? I could tell you about triggers, years after I got back. All it took once was a pile of old jungle boots, stacked up on a table in the middle of a shopping mall on Veteran’s Day. Why’s that man crying? It’s an unanswerable question. I couldn’t have answered it myself. You really should leave that part of people’s lives alone. Whatever their age or politics, if you’re talking to a former soldier you never really know who you’re talking to. If they haven’t said, there’s probably a reason.

Comrade, if you were crying over a stack of AMERICAN jungle boots it wasn’t because you are crying over the American lives taken. It was because your Chinese buddies didn’t take more American lives. You’re scum.

Kabul, and actually the entirety of Afghanistan, is now representative of Democrat policy. And like the fall of Saigon, disaster will follow all across the region. The Tolleybahn will hook up with the now released AQ fighters and ISIS will reconstitute. And all this falls squarely on the shoulders of those who are telling the blithering idiot that sits at the Resolute desk what to do. Do they make them any dumber than Tony Blinken?

As I’ve observed before, you’re your own biggest problem. Haters are never happy, and they generally never figure out why.

Are you trying to be comedic, Comrade? You’re one of the biggest haters here. You hate Trump, you hate Republicans and you hate the U.S. itself. You are a lock solid communist bastard that revels in the fall of America under your fellow Communists/Marxists. My problem is that we no longer shoot bastards like you for treason.

You don’t get to tell other people who they are or what they think. People speak for themselves. Pronouncements and condemnations about everyone under the sun may come out of you mouth, but that’s just you, flapping your lips.

That last sentence you typed in particular reveals more about your own mental state that you likely realize. It’s why many think a worrisome number of people on your own side of the political divide warrant close watching.

Trump makes none of this normal or OK. He just makes a lot of people THINK it’s normal and OK. That’s the main reason that HE’S dangerous.

When you can’t figure out why you hate, you just make something up like collusion or emoluments.

Oh, I remember, you Commie bastard. I remember Saigon. And I will always remember Kabul, as well. You can defend Senile Saigon Joe Biden all you want but you are wrong. And since you brought up Obama, remember what he said about Joe Biden “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.”

Clearly, Obama knew what he was talking about when it came to the CCP sell out, Joe Biden. Or are you now going to claim that Obama was wrong about Biden?

Speaking of the failure Obama, look who is leading the charge in Kabul? Yep, one of the 5 bums Obama traded for the worthless traitor Bergdahl (who served “honorably”) on the condition they don’t get involved with the Taliban again. Yep, another great Democrat success.

I think 74,000 votes in Arizona that no one knows where they came from is kind of a significant finding. But the only thing you regard as “fraud” is when a Republican wins. Then you whine, cry and stomp your feet, fall into a fetal position and hug your teddy bear.

How is anyone stopping this idiot from “bringing the pandemic under control”? This moron has all the power; he has the media, he has the military. He has Congress. What is keeping him from “shutting down the virus” like he said he would do? Just his incompetence. He’s an idiot. He eats ice cream, falls down, lies and has someone else wipe his butt. Worthless.

Trump’s plan was simple. Get the people out before we pull the military out. If the Taliban does not honor the agreement, no pullout and STRIKE THEM. The Taliban feared and respected Trump because he was serious. As we can see, they regard idiot Biden as the inept fool he is. China can see it, too. So can Iran. So can Russia. So can N. Korea. Fraud gave us a complete failure. The majority of the American people knew better; the majority voted for Trump and were disenfranchised by Democrat fraud.

The whole world sees this failure as idiot Biden’s. If anything good can come of this disaster, it will be that the Democrats are SWEPT from power in 2022 and their totalitarian power grab can be ended.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. One day you might believe it. You don’t seem to accept that this idiot is in charge.

Such an utter failure.

We’ve been the victim of Democrat failure.

Yeah, you’re always the victim of somebody or something, and never responsible for anything.

Well, I’m not responsible for THIS disaster. I voted for the competent guy, the guy that actually won. I voted for Trump, not the lying, groping, corrupt idiot Biden. Now, thanks to a few that voted for this moron and a massive dose of fraud, the entire nation suffers.

We’re not responsible for election fraud.

You are.

Democrats are, by and large, Karens and beta-male cucks. That’s why they hate successful Trump so much.

Preoccupation with their cucks may be part of the right’s problem. There seems to be much insecurity in that department. The Taliban boys certainly share it.

I like it when you give up and go to the unimaginative well-worn insults.

In other news, Wayne Alan Root makes a funny that’s actually funny, read and learn:

“Wayne Root: If Trump was President, Not One Democrat in America Would be Vaxxed”

Indeed, the Karens are preoccupied with keeping cucks like you in their corner.

Funny how people who know how to work, fight, and live in faith and love are “rightwing” these days.

That should tell you something, Cain.

The silly coup of the Democrats is just a jealous Cain killing a successful Abel.

Very old, old story: Envy.

Marxism is the religion of envy.

@Greg, There seems to be much insecurity in that department. The Taliban boys certainly share it.
Really? how so? Trump would have dropped the MOAB on the palace by now. The only effective way to negotiate with the death cult members.

If China “does it”, [finally becoming a “world-super-power”] they will do it by building their own manufacturing base and infrastructure while watching us stupidly bleed ourselves dry.

Our dem Joe’s “green” plan is what bleeds America dry.
We can’t even keep electric cars charged in CA.
But China opens coal powered electric plants daily, having the dirties air on the planet (when forest fires are not raging).
China also has ghost cities where the buildings stand and age empty from their start.
China’s land is so polluted they’ve had to lend money to African kleptocrats so they could take arable land from them when they renig on their payments.
Africans starve, Chinese get their food.

Like the old Soviets, those in power (in Moscow) used all of their socialist republics as slave states for their own use.
The Chinese have already used up all their own resources so they need to create new slave states.
They have much of Africa and have moved into the poorest parts of eastern Europe.
Now, who has read the fine print on all their loans to the USA for things like our Ports and building our bridges and high speed rails?
What will they take from us?
Federal and state grazing land?

Let’s see greggie. A Republican president negotiated a deal to pay North Vietnam for the release all POWs and identify the location of MIAs. After we got a few returned, the Democrats in Congress stopped payment on the check. How many POWs and MIAs were never returned? Obama left the Iraqis hanging by removing support. Now, we see that Biden did the same in Afghanistan by not having a viable plan. Was the lesson we should have learned to never elect another Democrat president?

Yes, indeed that was the lesson. It was learned. That’s why it took massive election fraud to get this idiot in position to cause this disaster.

liberalism is a religion, and the liberal a true believer.

And…

…it’s the oldest religion on the planet: Atheism.

The whole mistake was in trying to nation build and that lies squarely on George W Bush.
It should have been punitive expedition. After killing everybody in Afghanistan remotely related to Al Qaeda, we should have left.
I knew we were going to lose during first weeks when we passed up a chance to destroy an Al Qaeda convoy carrying bin Laden’s wives and kids.

What shopper at Cosco or Sams club has room in the cart for a kid? With the renewed threat of lock downs cases of TP ,frozen pizzas, gallons of bleach, that brat would be loaded like a mule with cart overflow.

Greg,
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
Will indeed Wilson was the POTUS during WWI, he had been disabled by a stroke.
His wife was running the show.
Oh, and by the way, they were both virulent racists. I mean they hated black people.
FDR was a racist too.
Imprisoning thousands of Japanese just because they were different.
My family was here, and if one generation German descent.
They didn’t get sent to camps.
Truman, was a conservative by any measure.
And let’s nit even talk about that SOB LBJ. Biggest racist to ever be POTUS, that includes the guy you libs live to hate, Jackson.

Read a book once in awhile, start paying attention and you might learn something.
Otherwise, please stop torturing the rest of us with your painful ignorance.

greg is a paid CCP troll sent to seed division and chaos, Marxist style.

A complete waste of time should anyone be stupid enough to engage in debate with the petulant little pussy. His stupidity is on constant display…

Joe Biden one year ago today on Twitter:

“Here’s my promise to you: If I’m elected president, I will always choose to unite rather than divide.

I’ll take responsibility rather than blame others.

I’ll never forget that the job isn’t about me – it’s about you.”

Biden Refuses to Take Questions From Reporters After Blaming Trump For His Afghanistan Disaster – Will Return to Camp David This Afternoon!

He didn’t have time to get the questions in advance, formulate the answers and have them loaded on the teleprompter.

asswipe biden does not have enough mental ability to know what he is doing. He does not know where he is. His speech was a disaster. Why bother speaking to the press. He could have just had a press statement and it would have been no different…

Biden speech, distilled: I stand completely behind my decision to play in the big leagues and so what if I screwed up the actual implementation, lost billions of dollars in American equipment, destroyed the morale of the Armed Forces and may have lost a lot of American and Afghani lives in the process. I was right! No, I don’t take questions. I’m going back to my vacation now.

There was no easy way out of Afghanistan. Others have avoided the difficult decision that Biden just made—notably Trump, whose post-election draw-down to only 2500 troops on the ground made an organized departure virtually impossible.

I do blame Trump for that part of the current situation. He DESERVES to be blamed for it. If there WAS a plan, it sure as hell wasn’t about an orderly disengagement.

Of course you do. That’s what immature crybabies that never accept responsibility for their own incompetence do. You blamed Trump for every COVID death, even though he responded before Democrats took it seriously, China and the WHO lied about transmissibility and Democrat governors were KILLING seniors in nursing homes (while giving idiot Biden a complete pass for his failure), so your credibility is suspect, to put it mildly.

The primary difference between what Trump would have done and what this idiot did was that Trump would not have continued along a disastrous path when (if) the Taliban opened up an offensive all across the country.

This is the idiot Biden show and idiot Biden failed. Already China and Russia are telling our allies that the US will NEVER stand by them in a crisis. Idiot Biden makes that a difficult point to argue.

I blame Trump for setting a May 1st departure date and then withdrawing all but 2500 troops before bugging out to Florida, pursuant to NO COHERENT PLAN AT ALL. Because that is EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.

It was always contingent upon conditions on the ground. For instance, the Taliban was supposed to honor a cease fire. So, if they launched a wide-front offensive, the deal would be violated and, under Trump, they would have been annihilated.

In other words, you are grasping at straws to avoid facing the truth about this abysmal moron, idiot Biden.

Trump was busy fighting a pandemic, you dolt. One that showed him ignoring Biden and other useless Democrats as he closed our borders against their opinions, and got a vaccine against their wishes.

Trump saved millions, and the opposition and resistance Democrats gave is now infamous history.

Biden has know UNDONE Trumps vast successes by botching the vaccine clean up and by killing kids at the border, if they aren’t in cages that Trump closed down.

You have NO argument on any of this, son. Biden is either a failed plan by the deep state or….more likely….a “successful” one.

The CCP met with the Taliban a few weeks ago, but I bet you knew that. They must be brokering a deal for fresh cooking oil.

Why don’t you remind us exactly when it was that Trump sent Pompeo to meet with the Taliban leadership?

And then, when the Trump administration suddenly drew U.S. forces there down to a mere 2500?

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-afghanistan-taliban-united-states-16cc1dd5b2f74d463311d212ad0d215a

As I recall, President Biden took office on January 20th.

And how many provinces did the Taliban take over while Trump was President?

The failure is idiot Biden’s. The failure is YOURS.

Clean-up in Aisle 3!

September 15, 2020 – PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS CONTINUED TO TAKE THE LEAD IN PEACE TALKS AS HE SIGNED A HISTORIC PEACE AGREEMENT WITH THE TALIBAN IN AFGHANISTAN, WHICH WOULD END AMERICA’S LONGEST WAR

You’ll find the glorious details a third of the way down the archived page that the GOP has just purged from its website:

https://web.archive.org/web/diff/20201010184542/20210815231342/https://gop.com/president-trump-is-bringing-peace-to-the-middle-east-rsr/

Guess who is *president now? Guess who took full responsibility for the plan… HIS plan? Go ahead… guess.

*not really

@ Greg, do you think Trump would give away an airbase and depend on an airport not able to take the big birds? Left behind all that expensive equipment for the terrorists to gather up? These are tribes not an organized army. It took 2500 American troops to hold the country. Like Trumps policy at the border Biden did the exact opposite of what was working. I guess here was not enough kick backs to interest the Biden crime family.

It was effectively given away when we dropped our troop level to 2500. WE didn’t lose equipment. The Afghan army did.

Idiot Biden did.

No, it was given away when idiot Biden closed it down and abandoned it. Idiot Biden brought this disaster about.

I had the displeasure of seeing kids my age come home in boxes out of the back of C141’s or coming out of the freedom birds with glassy eyes. Personally, I got lucky I enlisted in the AF.

I tell my grandkids when they get a boo boo, is anything broken? Are bones poking out? STFU and get outta here.

“I Was Appalled” – Former CIA Analyst Blasts Joe Biden’s Speech – ‘We Sent Biden Plan After Plan on How to Evacuate These People – NOBODY LISTENED!’

That was Matt Zeller, since you didn’t bother with a link or ID, and he WASN’T only talking about the Biden administration:

“I have been personally trying to tell this administration since it took office, I have been trying to tell our government for years that this was coming. We sent them plan after plan on how to evacuate these people. Nobody listened to us. They didn’t plan for the evacuation of our Afghan wartime allies. They’re trying to conduct it now at the 11th hour. The thing they were most concerned about was with the optics of the chaotic evacuation. Well, they got exactly what they were most concerned of by failing to do what was right when we could have done it.”

Of course Zeller is mad. We should ALL be mad. But Biden didn’t take office “years” ago. He took office only 7 months ago. Biden took office IN the 11th hour, with US forces ALREADY drawn down to only 2500 remaining personnel.

Did you forget idiot Biden was VP under failure Obama? That’s when the withdrawal began. Dummy.

Obama drew down the troops level in Afghanistan over a period of 8 years WITHOUT a serious Taliban resurgence. Toward the end of the last year of his second term he CEASED further reduction, out of concern that the situation might destabilize.

A stable situation maintained by only a fraction of the U.S. troops that where there when he first took office was what he turned over to Captain Bone Spurs, who screwed the pooch during the final months of his Reign of Stupid. You can add that achievement to Trump’s unilateral trashing of the nuclear agreement with Iran and his imaginary reining in of the North Korean nuclear weapon and missile program.

Here’s the U.S. troop level in Afghanistan by year:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2016/07/06/a-timeline-of-u-s-troop-levels-in-afghanistan-since-2001/

Um… MOST of the casualties suffered in Afghanistan happened under Obama’s watchful eye. He hamstrung the troops with onerous ROE while cutting the troops McChrystal wanted to attack and defeat the Taliban.

Obama irretrievably LOST the war in Afghanistan. If there was ever a chance to destroy the Taliban, Obama (along with idiot Biden) missed it.

What Trump inherited was a lost war unless, like in Iraq, we ramped up and went full-in again. The usual, predictable, reliable Democrat failure. The Afghanistan debacle is idiot Biden’s.

Biden was stuck with a salvage effort. He increased the troop level and delayed departure until September. It was too late.

The only remaining option now is to convince the Taliban that they had best wait in place for us to remove the people they don’t like anyway, or we’ll bomb the unholy hell out of their troop concentrations.

Oh, sure. That’s why people showed up at Bagram Air Base one morning and it was closed… because of all that “planning”. We could have already bombed their troop concentrations… except idiot Biden removed our air power.