A New Declaration for American Citizens Empowered by an Old Constitution

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In America, January 3rd, 2021

In this, the Declaration of the seventy-five million Americans who sought to have their votes count, who sought to be governed by the United States Constitution, who sought to live free in a nation of laws, we borrow from the words from our Founding Fathers:  When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.



We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long-established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Citizens; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present Government of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over American Citizens.

To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

Certain members of the United States Congress, current and former members of the Executive Branch and sympathetic members of various agencies of the United States Government did impede the good working order of the United States government and undermine the respect of law among American Citizens by spending years and precious resources proffering a known fiction of treason against the American President and in doing so inhibiting his ability to govern the Nation in good order.

Government officials from across the United States have exaggerated and exploited the threat of a virus to eviscerate the natural right of American Citizens to live their lives as free men and women and pursue the ability to provide for their families and serve their communities.

The American Government has expanded its control over American Citizens far beyond anything for which it was rightly empowered in the Constitution of the United States.  By establishing an ever-growing unaccountable bureaucratic leviathan which seeks to control the lives of Citizens the Government has eliminated the accountability which is inherent in a Government that derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.

And most destructively of all, enemies of freedom, along with their Press brethren and tyrannical Social Media enablers did conspire to deprive the American Citizens of their right to keep their government accountable by thwarting the honest and fair election for the President of the United States of America, thereby rendering all future elections moot, rendering toothless all procedures for limiting Government, rendering the Constitution of the United States to the dustbin of History.

A government no longer accountable to those whom it governs has become by definition a tyranny.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by ridicule, repression and indifference unworthy of a government empowered by its citizens.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Government overseers.  We have warned them from time to time of their attempts to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of the Rights and Freedoms enumerated in the Constitution of the United States.  We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the freedom revering Citizens of the United States of America, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do solemnly publish and declare, That a Government of the United States headed by an interloper is not representative of the will of the People, is illegal and against the Constitution of the United States and therefore all political connection between them and the free citizens of the United States ought to be totally dissolved.

We beg that this dissolution be remedied before it ever comes to fruition by an honest accounting of the most recent Election for President of the United States of America by the Congress and the inauguration of the rightful victor as the next President of the United States. Senators and Representatives swear an oath that begins:  “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;” They have sworn to defend the Constitution and the Republic from enemies who would usurp the power of consent of the Citizens of these United States.

We Respectfully beg they do that which they have sworn and remedy this usurpation before calamity befalls the Nation and the Freedoms endowed by the Creator and guaranteed by the Constitution become mere historical anomalies in the long march of Human Civilization.

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“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, . . . ” The important part.

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The last time this was considered it was considered a declaration of war.
Where will Fort Sumpter be this time around?

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So about that voter fraud….

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I agree Kitt.

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My my, what a recent influx of new contributors.

Amusingly interesting.

Meanwhile, we hear an hour long caught on tape recording of Trump demanding GA officials to “find” 11.1K votes to overturn his loss and to do this by any means possible, actually stating: “All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have”. The hour long arm twisting is to find the votes or else is just another chapter of the scandals and cons of the Trump shitshow of a presidency.

So here we go again:
1) Trump didn’t say that
2) Okay, maybe he said it but that wasn’t what he meant.
3) Okay, maybe he meant it but Biden is really really bad.

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Raffensperger: Well, I listened to what the president has just said. President Trump, we’ve had several lawsuits and we’ve had to respond in court to the lawsuits and the contentions. Um, we don’t agree that you have won. And we don’t — I didn’t agree about the 200,000 number that you’d mentioned. I’ll go through that point by point.

Raffensperger: Well Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. We talked to the congressmen and they were surprised.

But they — I guess there was a person Mr. Braynard who came to these meetings and presented data and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000. The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that’s wrong.

Trump: Well Cleta, How do you respond to that? Maybe you tell me?

Mitchell: Well, I would say Mr. Secretary, one of the things that we have requested and what we said was, if you look, if you read our petition, it said that we took the names and birth years and we had certain information available to us. We have asked from your office for records that only you have and so we said there is a universe of people who have the same name and same birth year and died.

But we don’t have the records that you have. And one of the things that we have been suggesting formally and informally for weeks now is for you to make available to us the records that would be necessary —

Trump: But Cleta, even before you do that, and not even including that, that’s why hardly even included that number, although in one state we have a tremendous amount of dead people. So I don’t know — I’m sure we do in Georgia, too. I’m sure we do in Georgia too.

But, um, we’re so far ahead. We’re so far ahead of these numbers, even the phony ballots of [name] , known scammer. You know the Internet? You know what was trending on the Internet? “Where’s [name]?” Because they thought she’d be in jail. “Where’s [name]?” It’s crazy, it’s crazy. That was. The minimum number is 18,000 for [name] , but they think it’s probably about 56,000, but the minimum number is 18,000 on the [name] night where she ran back in there when everybody was gone and stuffed, she stuffed the ballot boxes. Let’s face it, Brad, I mean. They did it in slow motion replay magnified, right? She stuffed the ballot boxes. They were stuffed like nobody had ever seen them stuffed before.

So there’s a term for it when it’s a machine instead of a ballot box, but she stuffed the machine. She stuffed the ballot — Each ballot went three times they were showing: Here’s ballot No 1. Here it is second time, third time, next ballot.

I mean, look. Brad. We have a new tape that we’re going to release. It’s devastating. And by the way, that one event, that one event is much more than the 11,000 votes that we’re talking about. It’s uh, you know. That one event was a disaster. And it’s just, you know, but it was, it was something, it can’t be disputed. And again we have a version that you haven’t seen but it’s magnified. It’s magnified and you can see everything. For some reason they put it in three times, each ballot, and I don’t know why. I don’t know why three times. Why not five times, right? Go ahead.

Raffensperger: You’re talking about the State Farm video. And I think it’s extremely unfortunate that Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context. The next day we brought in WSB-TV and we let them show, see the full run of tape and what you’ll see, the events that transpired are nowhere near what was projected by, you know —

Trump: But where were the poll watchers, Brad? There were no poll watchers there. There were no Democrats or Republicans. There was no security there.

It was late in the evening, late in the, early in the morning, and there was nobody else in the room. Where were the poll watchers and why did they say a water main broke, which they did and which was reported in the newspapers? They said they left. They ran out because of a water main break, and there was no water main. There was nothing. There was no break. There was no water main break. But we’re, if you take out everything, where were the Republican poll watchers, even where were the Democrat pollwatchers, because there were none.

And then you say, well, they left their station, you know, if you look at the tape, and this was, this was reviewed by professional police and detectives and other people, when they left in a rush, everybody left in a rush because of the water main, but everybody left in a rush. These people left their station.

When they came back, they didn’t go to their station. They went to the apron, wrapped around the table, under which were thousands and thousands of ballots in a box that was not an official or a sealed box. And then they took those. They went back to a different station. So if they would have come back, they would have walked to their station and they would have continued to work. But they couldn’t do even that because that’s illegal, because they had no Republican pollwatchers. And remember, her reputation is — she’s known all over the Internet, Brad. She’s known all over.

I’m telling you, “Where’s [name] ” was one of the hot items …[name] They knew her. “Where’s [name]?” So Brad, there can be no justification for that. And I you know, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. But that was — And Brad, why did they put the votes in three times? You know, they put ‘em in three times.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, they did not put that. We did an audit of that and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.

Trump: Where was everybody else at that late time in the morning? Where was everybody? Where were the Republicans? Where were the security guards? Were the people that were there just a little while before when everyone ran out of the room. How come we had no security in the room. Why did they run to the bottom of the table? Why do they run there and just open the skirt and rip out the votes. I mean, Brad. And they were sitting there, I think for five hours or something like that, the votes.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, we’ll send you the link from WSB.

Trump: I don’t care about the link. I don’t need it. Brad, I have a much better —

Mitchell: I will tell you. I’ve seen the tape. The full tape. So has Alex. We’ve watched it. And what we saw and what we’ve confirmed in the timing is that. They made everybody leave, we have sworn affidavits saying that. And then they began to process ballots. And our estimate is that there were roughly 18,000 ballots. We don’t know that. If you know that …

Trump: It was 18,000 ballots but they used each one three times.

Mitchell: Well, I don’t know about that.

Trump: I do think because we had ours magnified out.

Mitchell: I’ve watched the entire tape.

Trump: Nobody can make a case for that, Brad. Nobody. I mean, look, you’d have to be a child to think anything other than that. Just a child.

Mitchell: How many ballots, Mr. Secretary, are you saying were processed then?

Raffensperger: We had GBI … investigate that.

Germany: We had our — this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone who was who was there after that event came to light. GBI was with them as well as FBI agents.

Trump: Well, there’s no way they could — then they’re incompetent. They’re either dishonest or incompetent, okay?

Mitchell: Well, what did they find?

Trump: There’s only two answers, dishonesty or incompetence. There’s just no way. Look. There’s no way. And on the other thing, I said too, there is no way. I mean, there’s no way that these things could have been you know, you have all these different people that voted but they don’t live in Georgia anymore. What was that number, Cleta? That was a pretty good number too.

Mitchell: The number who have registered out of state after they moved from Georgia. And so they had a date when they moved from Georgia, they registered to vote out of state. And then it’s like 4,500, I don’t have that number right in front of me.

Trump: And then they came back in and they voted.

Mitchell: And voted. Yeah.

Trump: I thought that was a large number, though. It was in the 20s.

Germany: We’ve been going through each of those as well and those numbers that we got that Ms. Mitchell was just saying, they’re not accurate. Every one we’ve been through, are people that lived in Georgia, moved to a different state, but then moved back to Georgia legitimately. And in many cases —

Trump: How may people do that? They moved out and then they said, “Ah, to hell with it I’ll move back.” You know, it doesn’t sound like a very normal … you mean, they moved out, and what, they missed it so much that they wanted to move back in? It’s crazy.

Germany: They moved back in years ago. This was not like something just before the election. So there’s something about that data that, it’s just not accurate.

Trump: Well, I don’t know, all I know is that it is certified. And they moved out of Georgia and they voted. It didn’t say they moved back in Cleta, did it?

Mitchell: No, but I mean, we’re looking at the voter registration. Again, if you have additional records, we’ve been asking for that, but you haven’t shared any of that with us. You just keep saying you investigated the allegations.

Trump: Cleta, a lot of it you don’t need to be shared. I mean, to be honest, they should share. They should share it because you want to get to an honest election.

I won this election by hundreds of thousands of votes. There’s no way I lost Georgia. There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. I’m just going by small numbers when you add them up they’re many times the 11,000. But I won that state by hundreds of thousands of votes.

Do you think it’s possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that’s what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery.

Do you know anything about that? Because that’s illegal, right?

Germany: This is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.

Trump: But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?

Germany: No.

Trump: Are you sure, Ryan?

Germany: I’m sure. I’m sure, Mr. President.

Trump: What about, what about the ballots. The shredding of the ballots. Have they been shredding ballots?

Germany: The only investigation that we have into that — they have not been shredding any ballots. There was an issue in Cobb County where they were doing normal office shredding, getting rid of old stuff, and we investigated that. But this stuff from, you know, from you know past elections.

Trump: It doesn’t pass the smell test because we hear they’re shredding thousands and thousands of ballots and now what they’re saying, “Oh, we’re just cleaning up the office.” Yeah.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, the problem you have with social media, they — people can say anything.

Trump: Oh this isn’t social media. This is Trump media. It’s not social media. It’s really not it’s not social media. I don’t care about social media. I couldn’t care less. Social media is Big Tech. Big Tech is on your side. I don’t even know why you have a side, because you should want to have an accurate election. And you’re a Republican.

Raffensperger: We believe that we do have an accurate election.

Trump: No, no you don’t. No, no you don’t. You don’t have. Not even close. You’re off by hundreds of thousands of votes. And just on the small numbers, you’re off on these numbers and these numbers can’t be just — well, why wont? — Okay. So you sent us into Cobb County for signature verification, right? You sent us into Cobb County, which we didn’t want to go into. And you said it would be open to the public. So we had our experts there they weren’t allowed into the room. But we didn’t want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County. And you wouldn’t give it to us. Now, why aren’t we doing signature — and why can’t it be open to the public?

And why can’t we have professionals do it instead of rank amateurs who will never find anything and don’t want to find anything? They don’t want to find, you know, they don’t want to find anything. Someday you’ll tell me the reason why, because I don’t understand your reasoning, but someday you’ll tell me the reason why. But why don’t you want to find?

Germany: Mr. President, we chose Cobb County —

Trump: Why don’t you want to find … What?

Germany: Sorry, go ahead.

Trump: So why did you do Cobb County? We didn’t even request — we requested Fulton County, not Cobb County. Go ahead, please. Go ahead.

Germany: We chose Cobb County because that was the only county where there’s been any evidence submitted that the signature verification was not properly done.

Trump: No, but I told you. We’re not, we’re not saying that.

Mitchell: We did say that.

Trump: Fulton County. Look. Stacey, in my opinion, Stacey is as dishonest as they come. She has outplayed you … at everything. She got you to sign a totally unconstitutional agreement, which is a disastrous agreement. You can’t check signatures. I can’t imagine you’re allowed to do harvesting, I guess, in that agreement. That agreement is a disaster for this country. But she got you somehow to sign that thing and she has outsmarted you at every step.

And I hate to imagine what’s going to happen on Monday or Tuesday, but it’s very scary to people. You know, when the ballots flow in out of nowhere. It’s very scary to people. That consent decree is a disaster. It’s a disaster. A very good lawyer who examined it said they’ve never seen anything like it.

Raffensperger: Harvesting is still illegal in the state of Georgia. And that settlement agreement did not change that one iota.

Trump: It’s not a settlement agreement, it’s a consent decree. It even says consent decree on it, doesn’t it? It uses the term consent decree. It doesn’t say settlement agree. It’s a consent decree. It’s a disaster.

Raffensperger: It’s a settlement agreement.

Trump: What’s written on top of it?

Raffensperger: Ryan?

Germany: I don’t have it in front of me, but it was not entered by the court, it’s not a court order.

Trump: But Ryan, it’s called a consent decree, is that right? On the paper. Is that right?

Germany: I don’t. I don’t. I don’t believe so, but I don’t have it in front of me.

Trump: OK, whatever, it’s a disaster. It’s a disaster. Look. Here’s the problem. We can go through signature verification and we’ll find hundreds of thousands of signatures, if you let us do it. And the only way you can do it, as you know, is to go to the past. But you didn’t do that in Cobb County. You just looked at one page compared to another. The only way you can do a signature verification is go from the one that signed it on November whatever. Recently. And compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago, you know, or even one. And you’ll find that you have many different signatures. But in Fulton, where they dumped ballots, you will find that you have many that aren’t even signed and you have many that are forgeries.

OK, you know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at 11,779 within minutes, because Fulton County is totally corrupt and so is she totally corrupt.

And they’re going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, Brad, whether you know it or not, they’re laughing at you and you’ve taken a state that’s a Republican state, and you’ve made it almost impossible for a Republican to win because of cheating, because they cheated like nobody’s ever cheated before. And I don’t care how long it takes me, you know, we’re going to have other states coming forward — pretty good.

But I won’t … this is never … this is … We have some incredible talent said they’ve never seen anything … Now the problem is they need more time for the big numbers. But they’re very substantial numbers. But I think you’re going to fine that they — by the way, a little information, I think you’re going to find that they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots because the ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt, and they’re brand new and they don’t have a seal and there’s the whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt.

And you are going to find that they are — which is totally illegal, it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I’ve heard. And they are removing machinery and they’re moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can’t let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, you know, this is — it’s a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don’t know. A lot of people think it wasn’t a mistake. It was much more criminal than that. But it’s a big problem in Georgia and it’s not a problem that’s going away. I mean, you know, it’s not a problem that’s going away.

Germany: This is Ryan. We’re looking into every one of those things that you mentioned.

Trump: Good. But if you find it you’ve got to say it, Ryan.

Germany: … Let me tell you what we are seeing. What we’re seeing is not at all what you’re describing, these are investigators from our office, these are investigators from GBI, and they’re looking and they’re good. And that’s not what they’re seeing. And we’ll keep looking, at all these things.

Trump: Well, you better check the ballots because they are shredding ballots, Ryan. I’m just telling you, Ryan. They’re shredding ballots. And you should look at that very carefully. Because that’s so illegal. You know, you may not even believe it because it’s so bad. But they’re shredding ballots because they think we’re going to eventually get … because we’ll eventually get into Fulton. In my opinion it’s never too late. … So, that’s the story. Look, we need only 11,000 votes. We have are far more than that as it stands now. We’ll have more and more. And . Do you have provisional ballots at all, Brad? Provisional ballots?

Raffensperger: Provisional ballots are allowed by state law.

Trump: Sure, but I mean, are they counted or did you just hold them back because they, you know, in other words, how many provisional ballots do you have in the state?

Raffensperger: We’ll get you that number.

Trump: Because most of them are made out to the name Trump. Because these are people that were scammed when they came in. And we have thousands of people that have testified or that want to testify when they came in they were probably going to vote on November 3. And they were told I’m sorry, you’ve already been voted for, you’ve already voted. The women, men started screaming, No. I proudly voted til November 3. They said, I’m sorry, but you’ve already been voted for and you have a ballot and these people are beside themselves. So they went out and they filled in a provisional ballot, putting the name Trump on it.

And what about that batch of military ballots that came in. And even though I won the military by a lot, it was 100 percent Trump. I mean 100 percent Biden. Do you know about that? A large group of ballots came in. I think it was to Fulton County and they just happened to be 100 percent for Trump — for Biden, even though Trump won the military by a lot, you know, a tremendous amount. But these ballots were 100 percent for Biden. And, do you know about that? A very substantial number came in, all for Biden. Does anybody know about it?

Mitchell: I know about it, but —

Trump: OK, Cleta, I’m not asking you Cleta, honestly. I’m asking Brad. Do you know about the military ballots that we have confirmed now. Do you know about the military ballots that came in that were 100 percent, I mean 100 percent for Biden. Do you know about that?

Germany: I don’t know about that, I do know that we have when military ballots come in, it’s not just military, it’s also military and overseas citizens. The military part of that does generally go Republican. The overseas citizen part of it generally goes very Democrat. This was a mix of ‘em.

Trump: No, but this was. That’s OK. But I got like 78 percent of the military. These ballots were all for … They didn’t tell me overseas. Could be overseas too, but I get votes overseas too, Ryan, in all fairness. No they came in, a large batch came in and it was, quote, 100 percent for Biden. And that is criminal. You know, that’s criminal. OK. That’s another criminal, that’s another of the many criminal events, many criminal events here.

Oh, I don’t know, look Brad. I got to get … I have to find 12,000 votes and I have them times a lot. And therefore, I won the state. That’s before we go to the next step, which is in the process of right now. You know, and I watched you this morning and you said, uh, well, there was no criminality.

But I mean, all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. When you talk about no criminality, I think it’s very dangerous for you to say that.

I just, I just don’t know why you don’t want to have the votes counted as they are. Like even you when you went and did that check. And I was surprised because, you know … And we found a few thousand votes that were against me. I was actually surprised because the way that check was done, all you’re doing you know, recertifying existing votes and, you know, and you were given votes and you just counted them up and you still found 3,000 that were bad. So that was sort of surprising that it came down to three or five I don’t know. still a lot of votes. But you have to go back to check from past years with respect to signatures. And if you check with Fulton County, you’ll have hundreds of thousands because they dumped ballots into Fulton County and the other county next to it.

So what are we going to do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break. You know, we have that in spades already. Or we can keep it going but that’s not fair to the voters of Georgia because they’re going to see what happened and they’re going to see what happened. I mean, I’ll, I’ll take on to anybody you want with regard to [name] and her lovely daughter, a very lovely young lady, I’m sure. But, but [name] … I will take on anybody you want. And the minimum, there were 18,000 ballots but they used them three times. So that’s, you know, a lot of votes. … And they were all to Biden, by the way, that’s the other thing we didn’t say. You know, [name] , the one thing I forgot to say which was the most important. You know that every single ballot she did went to Biden. You know that, right? Do you know that, by the way, Brad?

Every single ballot that she did through the machines at early, early in the morning, went to Biden. Did you know that, Ryan?

Germany: That’s not accurate, Mr. President.

Trump: Huh. What is accurate?

Germany: The numbers that we are showing are accurate.

Trump: No, about [name] . About early in the morning, Ryan. Where the woman took, you know, when the whole gang took the stuff from under the table, right? Do you know, do you know who those ballots, who they were made out to, do you know who they were voting for?

Germany: No, not specifically.

Trump: Did you ever check?

Germany: We did what I described to you earlier —

Trump: No no no — did you ever check the ballots that were scanned by [name] , a known political operative and balloteer. Did ever check who those votes were for?

Germany: We looked into that situation that you described.

Trump: No, they were 100 percent for Biden. 100 percent. There wasn’t a Trump vote in the whole group. Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan? What’s wrong with you? I heard your lawyer is very difficult, actually, but I’m sure you’re a good lawyer. You have a nice last name.

But, but I’m just curious why wouldn’t, why do you keep fighting this thing? It just doesn’t make sense. We’re way over the 17,779, right? We’re way over that number and just if you took just [name] , we’re over that number by five, five or six times when you multiply that times three.

And every single ballot went to Biden, and you didn’t know that, but, now you know it. So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election and it’s not fair to take it away from us like this. And it’s going to be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say that you’re going to reexamine it and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people that don’t want to find answers. For instance, I’m hearing Ryan that he’s probably, I’m sure a great lawyer and everything. But he’s making statements about those ballots that he doesn’t know. But he’s making them with such — he did make them with surety. But now I think he’s less sure because the answer is they all went to Biden and that alone wins us the election by a lot. You know, so.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, you have people that submit information and we have our people that submit information. And then it comes before the court and the court then has to make a determination. We have to stand by our numbers. We believe our numbers are right.

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It’s not the counting of the 75 million votes for Trump; those HAVE been counted. What needs to be counted is the 3 to 4 million votes that were changed or just trashed. NOT counting those votes renders the 75 million irrelevant. Not counting those disenfranchises them ALL.

@Ronald J. Ward: So, though you took the effort to cut and past the phone conversation, you didn’t bother to read any of the conversation, did you? Yes, they are looking for 11,780 votes but, obviously, there are far more than that which have been fraudulently included, not to mention those that were changed or not counted which were cast for Trump. 66,247 that were underage voters, for instance. So, as you do EVERY TIME, you take a snippet out of the entire context. As you can see, it was an entire conversation; Trump did not call and say, “Go out and find 11,780 votes and get back to me.” No. He discussed all the cases, all the fraud, all the stolen votes and said he needed 11,780 votes (the underage votes would handle that nicely).

I can understand explaining this to a 5 year old… it shouldn’t be necessary for an adult… or even, as in your case, an “adult”.

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@Deplorable Me:

Failed

Next sock puppet please.

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@Ronald J. Ward: Good of you to confess your failure. Along with your admission you would vote for Hitler, a rare example of honesty.

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@mkb: More-out-of context quotes for yet another cheap, media induced Democrat hoax.

Easily dismissed.

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@Ronald J. Ward: Sock puppets show up at their opponents’ websites.

You’re a sockpuppet.

Biden is not the President…or President elect.You have to actually win an election for that.

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If they can not uphold protect and defend the U.S. Constitution and prefer to do the will of the United Nations then they should all just resign and we should pull out of the United Nations as well evetict them all and move them to Moscow and still offer our aid during Disaster or Emergency

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@Ronald J. Ward: The influx of new contributors is because this blog post was featured on Fark’s Politics tab.

Thanks for posting a transcript, is it the whole thing?

@Nathan Blue: Biden is the president-elect as of today. That’s just a brute fact. You can deal with it, or not, but if you choose not to, then your arguments all become what-if speculation.

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@mkb:

The entire transcript and video is here.

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@Nathan Blue: He’s a jockstrap. He’s here to support Biden’s sagging balls.

@Ronald J. Ward:

The entire transcript and video is here.

Why don’t you read it instead of making one sentence the entire conversation? Afraid of the truth?

Explain this:https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/10/24/biden_we_have_put_together_the_most_extensive_and_inclusive_voter_fraud_organization_in_the_history_of_american_politics.html?fbclid=IwAR3c1xANXxm7F630E84rxWVAaPPYtvUN18yWj9P-wt-46Q1TSau6kR0DYDg//

And this:

Trump’s case showing thousands of illegitimate votes is still pending in Georgia
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2021/01/03/a-legitimate-election-dispute-remains-pending-under-georgia-law-without-a-hearing-date-or-judge-assigned-n303652

Georgia AG Raffensperger has no answer for the question about the boxes of ballots dragged from under tables election night
https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-georgia-secretary-of-state-unable-to-answer-questions-about-ballots-under-table_3641550.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-03-3

The “standard” for signature matching in Georgia
https://welovetrump.com/2020/12/31/check-out-what-qualifies-as-a-signature-match-in-georgia/

Arizona firm linked to Democrats sends ballots to Georgia

EXCLUSIVE: Arizona Firm that Allegedly Sent Fake Ballots to Georgia, Runbeck Election Services, Is Closely Tied to Democrat Party

17,650 votes changed from Trump to Biden in Georgia
https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-election-data-shows-17650-votes-switched-from-trump-to-biden-data-scientists_3640670.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-02-1

DOJ study shows there was fraud

DOJ Researcher Releases Study Indicating Massive Election Fraud in Georgia and Pennsylvania

Federal Judge sister of Stacey Abrams is blocking removing ineligible voters from voter roles

Federal Judge (Stacey Abrams’ Sister!) Orders Two Georgia Counties to Cease Removing Ineligible Voters from Rolls

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/391886.php

Georgia State Assembly issues report that questions the legitimacy of the election

GA Senate Report Devastates Left, Says Nov. 3 Election Results ‘Cannot Be Trusted’

Georgia voter fraud final report
http://www.senatorligon.com/THE_FINAL%20REPORT.PDF

Whistle blower Georgia election workers terminated
https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-poll-workers-who-raised-election-concerns-get-terminated_3624301.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-18-4

Because there was no fraud and everything was legit, Georgia official warns counties not to comply with FOIA requests
https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-official-warned-counties-not-to-grant-open-record-requests-for-voting-software-memo_3624705.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-18-5

Georgia had a long-term problem with Dominion systems
https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-years-long-court-battle-reveals-dominions-security-and-audit-flaws-weak-testing_3611494.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-12-10

Dominion machines in Georgia were connected to the internet and accessed remotely
https://welovetrump.com/2020/12/08/breaking-dominion-remotely-accessed-voting-terminals-during-2020-election-in-georgia/?utm_source=newsletter_vm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=vm

Votes being moved from Trump to Biden
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-expert-identifies-200000-votes-net-hi-jacked-trump-biden-georgia-precinct-level/

Running an equal number of Trump and Biden votes through sequestered Dominion counting machines in Ware county, Georgia, Biden got 26% more votes
https://noqreport.com/2020/12/06/ware-county-tested-dominion-tabulators-equal-number-of-votes-yielded-26-lead-for-joe-biden/

DeKalb county can’t find the chain of custody forms for the election
https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-county-cant-find-chain-of-custody-records-for-absentee-ballots_3606540.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-06-1

No, the Georgia vote counting fraud has not been debunked
https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/07/no-the-georgia-vote-counting-video-was-not-debunked-not-even-close/

Yes, there is evidence of fraud at Fulton County
https://www.cbs46.com/news/lawmakers-hear-bombshell-allegations-of-georgia-election-fraud/article_8404e930-35e5-11eb-8ac3-1fc96e3b52d8.html

Poll observers in Atlanta were told to just go home… counting continued
https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-poll-observers-say-they-effectively-were-told-to-go-home_3605825.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-05-1

Huge spike in Biden votes in Georgia when most of the election workers were sent away due to a “water main leak” and then the counting of ballots stored under tables was begun
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/update-ruby-freeman-elections-supervisor-shaye-ross-strange-pass-also-caught-video/

Company that audited Dominion in Georgia… is tied to Dominion and has no certification
https://www.theepochtimes.com/firm-that-conducted-audit-of-georgia-voting-machines-has-long-history-with-dominion_3604466.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-12-04

When Dominion broke down in Georgia in September, they called Dominion to “fix” the problem.

Alleged that Chinese and Iranian elements gained access to Dominion results
https://populist.press/georgia-lawsuit-dominion-software-was-accessed-by-chinese-and-iranian-agents/

30 allegations of fraud in Georgia
https://www.theepochtimes.com/sidney-powell-suit-makes-30-allegations-in-bid-to-invalidate-georgia-election-results_3595129.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-26-5

Lots of people voting by mail live at post offices and FedEx facilities
https://www.theepochtimes.com/thousands-in-georgia-registered-at-postal-commercial-addresses-portraying-them-as-residences-researcher-says_3592165.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-24-5

Counting votes in Georgia routinely giving Trump votes to Biden, monitors limited to 1 per 10 tables
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-project-veritas-georgia-recount-auditors-call-multiple-ballots-joe-biden-actually-marked-president-trump-video/

Problems identified with Georgia’s Dominion system
https://www.theepochtimes.com/pre-election-concerns-over-dominion-voting-systems-highlighted-in-georgia-lawsuit_3576863.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-12-5

And that’s just Georgia.

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welovetrump.com?

And you seriously expect to be taken seriously?

Seriously?

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@Ronald J. Ward: The entire transcript and video is here. it was a video? We know you dont actually read.
WaPO seriously, you expect to be taken seriously?
Why did these criminals go to WaPo? The same outlet sued for trying to destroy a young man for wearing a Trump hat, while a psycho beat a drum in his face.

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@Ronald J. Ward:Explain this:https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/10/24/biden_we_have_put_together_the_most_extensive_and_inclusive_voter_fraud_organization_in_the_history_of_american_politics.html?fbclid=IwAR3c1xANXxm7F630E84rxWVAaPPYtvUN18yWj9P-wt-46Q1TSau6kR0DYDg//

NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, CNN, NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC = “We suck Democrat butt.” Seriously. Why do you think they’ve buried the stories of Hunter’s laptop, Joe’s CCP payday or Swalwell and the DNC’s CCP slavery?

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@kitt:

I expected you to jump all over the video/audio typo. Bully for you.

No one that I’m aware of is questioning the authenticity of the WAPO transcript and recording. It’s an accepted reality that it was leaked to The Washington Post and they published it.

You again automatically reject the messenger simply because Trump told you to.

You’re a bit behind as we are past the “he didn’t say that” ( but thanks for confirming my predictions although it’s easy to predict what a stuck record is going to say next). We’ve moved on the the “okay he said but” stage.

But yes, WAPO is indeed being taken seriously, and credible.

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@Ronald J. Ward: thank you!

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In this, the Declaration of the seventy-five million Americans who sought to have their votes count, who sought to be governed by the United States Constitution, who sought to live free in a nation of laws…

Your votes did count, but they totaled 7 million fewer than the votes of those who rejected Donald Trump and cast their ballots for Joe Biden. The problem is that Donald Trump refuses to accept defeat, and is trying to overturn the nation’s constitutional election process and circumvent the law.

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@Greg: Prove it is what we ask, why wont they prove it?
WI, no the application is the envelope how did they get the ballot with no application on file?, AZ no you cant see the paper ballots, PA no chain of custody paperwork47 missing USBs, MI no chain of custody paperwork.
Machines hooked up to the internet.
Prove Biden got more votes. The election officials hold the smoking gun evidence let it be examined.
Raffensperger Faces ESPIONAGE Charges!

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@kitt:

@Greg: Prove it is what we ask, why wont they prove it?

You do have an insistence of being the dense one Kitt. We’ve had the election and Trump lost. We’ve heard crack pot conspiracy theories and debunked allegations from Trump. The burden of proof is not on the Biden campaign to explain his innocence but rather for the Trump camp to prove there is guilt, which they cannot or even much less, that a crime has even been committed.

But you will believe anything the serial liar tells you and you will not believe anything he tells you not to.

Word has it he has a 1 way plane ticket for Scotland for Jan 19. Good riddance.

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@Ronald J. Ward: He said what he said, nothing wrong in asking the assholes to prove their claims.
Raffensperger Faces ESPIONAGE Charges! As he should his 1/2 ass attorney should know better.

Trump won let them prove he did not by being very transparent.

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@Ronald J. Ward:

The burden of proof is not on the Biden campaign to explain his innocence but rather for the Trump camp to prove there is guilt, which they cannot or even much less, that a crime has even been committed.

If the Biden campaign is so damn sure that Biden won legally, and fairly, they could encourage transparency so that it can be proven. But since the Biden campaign remains mute on the subject, Biden, if inaugurated, will never be considered a legitimate president by half the nation and you can sit back, hiding in your hidey hole waiting for the storm that will surely come.

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@retire05:

If the Biden campaign is so damn sure that Biden won legally, and fairly, they could encourage transparency so that it can be proven.

Not that I by any stretch expect a coherent response but why is Trump exempt from encouraging transparency so that his win can be proven, since after all, he’s so damn sure he won legally.

I’ve never seen such a lot of gullibles that could shove both feet in their mouth and never even know they’re there.

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There’s absolutely nothing Biden is required to prove. He won the election. That clearly remains the case, despite an avalanche of bullshit rhetoric from Donald Trump and scores of groundless legal challenges that have consistently failed in court after court. Biden will become President by an entirely normal and lawful constitutional process. All he has to do is show up for his inauguration and then take office.

Every national poll taken during the months leading up to the presidential election predicted Joe Biden would win. With all of those indicators in constant agreement, something would have seemed seriously amiss if he hadn’t done so. The only aberration in the room is the behavior of Donald J Trump, and that has been consistently the case since he somehow slipped in through the door. The man has left a trail of chaos behind him. He’s doing the same on his way out.

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@Ronald J. Ward:

Not that I by any stretch expect a coherent response but why is Trump exempt from encouraging transparency so that his win can be proven, since after all, he’s so damn sure he won legally.

Don’t judge my responses by your own inept intellect.

Trump IS encouraging transparency, transparency in the vote count. The American electorate deserves that. But where is Biden saying he welcomes transparency and let it begin? He is AWOL. Just like he was during campaign season, reading prepared scripts from his teleprompter in his basement.

I’ve never seen such a lot of gullibles that could shove both feet in their mouth and never even know they’re there.

What you have seen, and refuse to admit to, is that there WAS massive fraud in certain states during the November election season. Now, I can’t make you accept what you refuse to accept, but I know that you are clueless as to how elections should be (not how they were) conducted. And don’t give me that crap about being a “precinct captain” in Kentucky. Precinct captains, or what ever they are called in Kentucky, do not conduct elections.

All you have to offer is hate.

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@retire05:

What you have seen, and refuse to admit to, is that there WAS massive fraud in certain states during the November election season.

Is this was so obvious as you insist, why can’t it be proven in even the most conservative and Trump friendly courtrooms? Why must it be the responsibility of the Biden camp to prove these conspiracy theories are false when the Trump camp cannot prove they are true?

As Jonathan Rauch Explains:

When Republican senators attempt to block congressional confirmation of Joe Biden’s presidential victory this week, they will not succeed in reversing the outcome of the election. What they will achieve, however, is no mere stunt.

For four years, President Trump has made Russian-style “firehose of falsehood” disinformation tactics a staple of his governance. After the election, he and his allies have taken those tactics to a new level, deploying lies and lawsuits to convince tens of millions of Americans, and half of all Republicans, that the election was rigged. Having turned courts into propaganda channels, they will do the same to Congress on Wednesday, using the final stage of the presidential-selection process—the heart of America’s constitutional order—as a disinformation platform.

The electoral-vote count is normally just a ritual. But, as rituals go, it is an important one. By confirming the results, federal elected officials of both parties join in bestowing legitimacy on the incoming president. In 2001, Al Gore—in the vice president’s constitutional role as president of the Senate—presided over certification of his own loss to George W. Bush. In 2017, Vice President Biden gaveled down Democrats’ objections to Trump’s victory. “It is over,” he declared. In both cases, they signaled to the country that the election had been decided, and the result was authoritative.

For an objection to the election results to succeed, both houses of Congress must vote to uphold it. In 2021, there is no chance that the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives will overturn Biden’s decisive electoral-college victory, flout his 7-million-vote margin, trample the considered judgments of state and local officials of both parties, nullify dozens of court rulings, and disenfranchise the people of multiple states. Biden’s ascent to the presidency is assured.

So why would some Republicans lead a kamikaze mission against U.S. democracy?

Some congressional Republicans may actually believe that Biden somehow stole the election, with the help of a sprawling and secretive conspiracy involving many Republican and Democratic officials in multiple states, plus state courts and federal courts and the Supreme Court and voting machines and possibly a dead Venezuelan dictator. More likely, Republican politicians are pandering to pressure from their base and conservative media.

Above all, the Republicans’ challenge is part of an information-warfare campaign. They are using a classic propaganda tactic that might be called “conspiracy bootstrapping.” First, you introduce a false idea, spreading it by every available means. Then, once people are talking about it, and some believe it, you cite its prevalence as evidence that it might be true—an epistemic sleight-of-hand by which propaganda validates itself.

This tactic is evident in a statement that 11 Republican senators issued Saturday, explaining why they intended to reject the electoral college counts of several states that Biden won, and to demand an “Electoral Commission to conduct an emergency 10-day audit.” The senators did not, and could not, point to any allegations of fraud that were credible, were large enough to affect the election outcome, and had not already been aired, examined and rejected by the proper authorities. In other words, the senators could not justify their actions by saying that the allegations were true. Instead they relied on the claim that the allegations were widespread.

The political scholars Russell Muirhead and Nancy L. Rosenblum describe this approach in their important 2019 book A Lot of People Are Saying: The New Conspiracism and the Assault on Democracy. Traditional conspiracy theories—claims about staged moon landings or silent mind control—tend to be grand and elaborate, sometimes comically so, weaving tangled narratives that purport to explain everything. The new conspiracism, by contrast, offers no proofs, evidence or theory.

It “dispenses with the burden of explanation,” write Muirhead and Rosenblum, and it does not necessarily try to be convincing. Rather, it foments confusion, disorientation, cynicism and division. It levels accusations, observes which get traction, then uses their popularity to justify the claim that they might be true. It thus “substitutes social validation for scientific validation: If a lot of people are saying it, to use Trump’s signature phrase, then it is true enough.”

Trump is a master of this tactic. The “birther” conspiracy theory, which held that Barack Obama had not been born in the United States and thus was not legally the president, was Trump’s route into national politics. Once in office, he repeated and amplified conspiracy theories, no matter how ludicrous or vicious. If many people entertained a notion, he suggested, it should be looked into because—who knows?—it might be true, it probably is true, and anyway you can’t disprove it.

That is the technique that the 11 senators are deploying in their demand that Congress reconsider the election results. “By any measure, the allegations of fraud and irregularities in the 2020 election exceed any in our lifetimes,” they write. “They are widespread.” Note the words that I italicized. People are repeating allegations, many believe them, so they might be true.

Lies are thus self-validating, and there is no end to the hall of mirrors. If Congress’s “emergency audit” were to occur and find no fraud, Trump would claim that it, too, had been rigged. His supporters would repeat and amplify his claim, and this would be cited as evidence of its credibility. Wash, rinse, repeat.

The senators assure us piously that, by calling for a special investigation, they are acting “to do everything we can to restore faith in our Democracy.” They are doing nothing of the kind. The new conspiracism has no interest in establishing the truth. “Its product is delegitimation,” Muirhead and Rosenblum write. The real message is that everyone who acknowledges Trump’s defeat is untrustworthy, unreliable and fraudulent: the media, the courts, the experts, the states, Congress, the Democrats and, for that matter, many Republicans.

For Trump and his allies in Congress, bootstrapping propaganda into a demand for investigation will not change the election’s result. But it may serve the overriding purpose of reducing institutional and public resistance to their future political machinations, whatever those might be.

Disinformation tactics like “conspiracy bootstrapping” have been in common use by demagogues and dictators for a long time because they work. They are challenging for democracies to counter. Our system relies on elected officials to buffer disinformation, not amplify it—especially when they are conducting their most solemn and important constitutional duty. This week, many influential Republicans seem set on taking another unprecedented step toward normalizing the use of Russian-style disinformation in U.S. politics. In that lamentable respect, we are all Russians now.

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@Ronald J. Ward:

You seem to think that I am interested in anything that Rauch has to say. I’m not. Rauch has been responsible for conducting as many elections as you have. Hell, the mere fact that he is a contributing editor to The Atlantic , which is known for publishing disinformation on a regular basis, says it all.

Seems the only talent you have is being able to cut and paste.

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@retire05: They actually fear having to prove it to the voters. As the President said they are on very dangerous ground certifying false election findings.
Donald J Trump“We’ve seen in the last few months, unprecedented amounts of Voter Fraud.”
Georgia’s Secretary of State Raffensperger Certified Georgia’s 2020 Election Results Knowing 460,000 Ballots Were Missing Legally Required Chain of Custody Documentation.
A lawless pair, now espionage.
Word is it wasnt only shredded ballots that Sidney has but packing slips for ballots, you will never guess where they came from. (hint)They couldnt reproduce magnetic ink.

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@retire05:

What you have seen, and refuse to admit to, is that there WAS massive fraud in certain states during the November election season.
—Retire05

Is this was so obvious as you insist, why can’t it be proven in even the most conservative and Trump friendly courtrooms? Why must it be the responsibility of the Biden camp to prove these conspiracy theories are false when the Trump camp cannot prove they are true?
—RJW

And your response:

@retire05: Hell, the mere fact that he is a contributing editor to The Atlantic , which is known for publishing disinformation on a regular basis, says it all.

Seems the only talent you have is being able to cut and paste.
—Retire05

Dodging and playing the rubber/glue game seems to be your specialty.

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@Ronald J. Ward:

No one that I’m aware of is questioning the authenticity of the WAPO transcript and recording. It’s an accepted reality that it was leaked to The Washington Post and they published it.

At least we have established that you and other liberals are OK with conversations with the President being immediately leaked to the public. Let’s put this in the record.

The burden of proof is not on the Biden campaign to explain his innocence but rather for the Trump camp to prove there is guilt, which they cannot or even much less, that a crime has even been committed.

Aside from the fact that widespread fraud committed by Democrats has been verified, it is the burden on Democrats to explain Biden proclaiming, on video, that they have all the fraud in place. Yeah… he said that.

Is this was so obvious as you insist, why can’t it be proven in even the most conservative and Trump friendly courtrooms?

“Is this was”?? Is you is or is you ain’t not making no sense?

Why must it be the responsibility of the Biden camp to prove these conspiracy theories are false when the Trump camp cannot prove they are true?

If there is credible evidence that the Democrats committed massive and widespread fraud (which there most definitely is) then it is the Democrats’ responsibility to prove there was no fraud or, at the very least, be as open, transparent and cooperative as is possible to allow the accusations to be investigated. When Democrats LIED and accused Trump of being a Russian agent, whose responsibility was it to prove it was a lie (which Trump’s team did)?

For four years, President Trump has made Russian-style “firehose of falsehood” disinformation tactics a staple of his governance.

Provide an example. All the falsehoods originated with the Democrats.

@Greg:

Your votes did count, but they totaled 7 million fewer than the votes of those who rejected Donald Trump and cast their ballots for Joe Biden.

There is no way to know that. There was so much fraud and illegal votes that we can’t know how many votes each candidate got, but it is clear Trump got millions more than Biden.

There’s absolutely nothing Biden is required to prove.

Yes there is. He needs to prove what he meant when he said this:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/10/24/biden_we_have_put_together_the_most_extensive_and_inclusive_voter_fraud_organization_in_the_history_of_american_politics.html?fbclid=IwAR3c1xANXxm7F630E84rxWVAaPPYtvUN18yWj9P-wt-46Q1TSau6kR0DYDg

If you want to believe that one sentence out of Trump’s requests that the Georgia AG should do his job and make sure an election in his state is not fraudulent and that laws are followed, then answers to Biden’s declaration that they had organized fraud on an unprecedented level needs to be explained. So… explain, scooter.

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@Deplorable Me:

You see, even those who have dementia, as Biden clearly does, have moments of clarity. Biden had a moment of clarity when he said they had created the most extensive voter fraud organization in history. I’m sure his handlers were apoplectic when he said that as it NEVER came up again. Nada, zip, zilch; no explanation for the statement, no “I spoke out of turn” or “I misspoke”. It was just gone into the ether.

And why does Biden keep referring to President Elect Harris?

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@Deplorable Me, #33:

Yes there is. He needs to prove what he meant when he said this:

Joe Biden doesn’t need to explain a damn thing, because his meaning is perfectly clear when it’s heard in its full and proper context. What he was talking about was the organization response to republican efforts to suppress the vote.

Republicans should be required to explain their efforts to suppress the vote and fraudulently overturn the results of the election by disenfranchising millions of entirely legitimate voters. They should be held accountable.

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@Greg:

Joe Biden doesn’t need to explain a damn thing, because his meaning is perfectly clear when it’s heard in its full and proper context.

I didn’t ask for another example of Biden babbling and rambling about incoherently; I have plenty of those. But, you are correct, in a sense. Biden doesn’t have to explain what he said. It is clear. They have put together the most extensive voter fraud organization in US history, and it was fully employed. It is good that you accept it as such.

But, that brings into question why you try to deny that that organization did not do what it was intended to do. They committed fraud; lots of it because so much was required to drag that babbling, lying, incoherent idiot across the finish line.

Of course, if you had proof no fraud was committed and wanted to produce it, that would be a different story.

Biden is a liar, Democrats committed massive fraud, and unscrupulous people like yourself try to justify it.

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I didn’t ask for another example of Biden babbling and rambling about incoherently; I have plenty of those.

Maybe you should try taking information in like a big person, rather than having it all cut up into tiny little bite-size Twitter bits and selectively fed to you by some entry-level Trump cult propagandist. Just a suggestion, of course.

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@Greg:

Republicans should be required to explain their efforts to suppress the vote and fraudulently overturn the results of the election by disenfranchising millions of entirely legitimate voters.

Oh, please, please, please; explain how Repubicans try to suppress the vote.
How are they trying to disenfranchise millions of entirely “legitimate” voters?

Knowing what an idiot you are, your answers should be interesting.

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@retire05, #38:

Why should I waste my time? You only want additional opportunities to exercise your tiny little vocabulary of insults. You should work on that.

Anyone who is actually curious, or has difficulty remembering a time so long ago as the year 2020, will find no shortage of reading material. Republican voter suppression

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@Greg: Your video does not explain Biden’s clear statement as being anything but him unequivocally stating that the Democrats were organizing widespread fraud for the election. Perhaps YOU need to confront the corruption, lies and fraud you are so vigorously trying to defend.

For instance, requiring people to be who they claim to be when they vote, to only vote once, to vote in the state where they live or to be a citizen is not “voter suppression”. It is THE LAW. You view laws as obstructions to the quest for unlimited power.

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@Greg:

Why should I waste my time? You only want additional opportunities to exercise your tiny little vocabulary of insults.

You really are a pathetic debater.

Anyone who is actually curious, or has difficulty remembering a time so long ago as the year 2000, will find no shortage of reading material. Republican voter suppression

Oh, but not one little bitty word from you about Jim Crow laws or the fact that Democrats have worked to suppress the votes of Americans for well over a century. And how pathetic that you can’t answer the question on your own but have to resort to providing what you found on your Google search engine.

And you wonder why I call you an idiot. You prove it on a daily basis.

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@Deplorable Me: Seems Kamela just keeps living in someone elses life, next it will be a tale about giving up her viginity on her wedding night.
Go look up what strollers looked like in the 60s, this liar just fell out without her educated parents noticing.
Hardly a class act.

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@retire05 Biden has done what was required by law. The votes were verified by the individual states, not by Biden (that’d have been a serious conflict of interest).

I understand that you don’t like how Biden campaigned: he clearly didn’t get your vote, so his style of campaigning did not work for you.

Please live with the fact that his style of campaigning, while it did not work with you, worked with a majority of Americans, as shown by the 8 million advantage in the popular vote.

As for him being AWOL, it’s more a case of he’s respecting the fact that Trump is still President for the next couple of weeks, and he’ll get plenty of spotlight come January 20th, so he is not seeking it. He’s probably doing his homework in advance as he’ll want to hit the ground running. Keep in mind, the man has been VP for 8 years, so he has an understanding of how the administration machinery works.

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@mkb: Last night, Biden offered voters a $2,000 bribe to vote for the CCP candidate Ossoff and the child abusing, wife abusing racist socialist Warnock. Should he be arrested for violating election law?

The fraud is proven. The fact that the Democrats and some Republican officers are fully aware of it and want to bury the facts is also proven.

I understand that you don’t like how Biden campaigned: he clearly didn’t get your vote, so his style of campaigning did not work for you.

You mean mostly hiding in his basement and in the rare instances when he did venture out, not getting any difficult questions? You mean when he DID get a question, he was allowed to lie and not get called out by the media? You mean how his history of groping children, a very, very credible rape accusation, his influence peddling son, his extortion of Ukraine and his financial ties to Ukraine, Latvia, Russia and China was totally buried by the media to protect him? Yeah, I didn’t like that. I have to wonder what kind of person did.

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@mkb:

Biden has done what was required by law.

I never said he did any differently. What he has not done, and what I think he should do, is support verification and transparency in some of the questionable states so that ALL voters are secure in the election.

The votes were verified by the individual states, not by Biden (that’d have been a serious conflict of interest).

Verified, but lacking real transparency.

I understand that you don’t like how Biden campaigned: he clearly didn’t get your vote, so his style of campaigning did not work for you.

Biden’s policies do not work for me. It has nothing to do with his method of campaigning although this is the first time I can remember that a presidential candidate hid in his basement instead of taking his case to the American people.

Please live with the fact that his style of campaigning, while it did not work with you, worked with a majority of Americans, as shown by the 8 million advantage in the popular vote.

The “8 million advantage” you reference is what is questionable and what Biden should be insisting on is full transparency. Without it, he will never be fully accept as a “legitimate” president by half the nation.

As for him being AWOL, it’s more a case of he’s respecting the fact that Trump is still President for the next couple of weeks, and he’ll get plenty of spotlight come January 20th, so he is not seeking it.

He was AWOL prior to the election. That was an issue for a lot of voters.

He’s probably doing his homework in advance as he’ll want to hit the ground running.

Probably? The man was in D.C. 47 years and VP for 8 of those years. If he can’t hit the ground running after all that experience in the swamp, he will never hit the ground running.

Let me be very clear; Joe Biden lost me when he was Chair of the Judiciary Committee and treated Clarence Thomas like he was some kind of dirty street urchin. Justice Thomas is a brilliant man, well respected in his field, quite religious and was beyond reproach. The Democrats dug up a #BelieveAllWomen witness for no other purpose than to try to disgrace Clarence Thomas. Teddy Kennedy, who sat next to Joe Biden during those hearings, hated Thomas because Thomas, a black man, had the temerity to marry a white woman.

Not one person on this forum who supported Biden can tell me what he achieved in his nearly 5 decades in D.C. other than amassing great wealth. What legislation did he write and get passed? How did he advance American freedoms as guaranteed by our Constitution?

Biden was the DNCs last ditch attempt at presenting a candidate. The party of “inclusion” rejected every other candidate they put fourth (Harris couldn’t pull even 1% support and dropped out before the first primary) and the only challenge was Bernie Sanders who Hillary had cheated out of the nomination in 2016. Joe Biden was all they had. As to Biden being chosen for VP, he was chosen for exactly the same reasons that LBJ was chosen by JFK. Remember, JFK hated LBJ and I promise you, Obama has no real love for Biden.

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@retire05:

Not one person on this forum who supported Biden can tell me what he achieved in his nearly 5 decades in D.C. other than amassing great wealth.

What did he accomplish? He got away with it. He’s Rolo Tomassi.

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@retire05:

Not one person on this forum who supported Biden can tell me what he achieved in his nearly 5 decades in D.C. other than amassing great wealth. What legislation did he write and get passed? How did he advance American freedoms as guaranteed by our Constitution?

While a quick Wikipedia search could get that info and while most people of political knowledge know he’s mainly known for his Senate Judiciary Committee position and championing drug policies, crime prevention, civil liberties issues, and his involvement in passing the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and the Violence Against Women Act, the question is irrelevant on several fronts.

For starters, it exposes an ignorance or an intention to mislead because if you understand how legislation works, you know that as a senator, he only gets 1 vote out of 100 which in most cases still has to pass the lower chamber as well as the Executive Branch. And as VP, his only legislative power was to break a 50/50 senate tie. So these talking points of why didn’t he do this or that are rather silly.

But mainly, it doesn’t matter because he’s the people’s choice to lead the country. I didn’t like it when a con man who never contributed to the good of anyone other than himself won the seat in 2016 but it didn’t matter because he was the people’s choice. His resume could not be used as some excuse to invalidate the election under the premise of a rigged election. Nor can you use Biden’s for that reason.

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@Ronald J. Ward:

While a quick Wikipedia search could get that info and while most people of political knowledge know he’s mainly known for his Senate Judiciary Committee position and championing drug policies, crime prevention, civil liberties issues, and his involvement in passing the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and the Violence Against Women Act, the question is irrelevant on several fronts.

“Involvement”. That’s a way of saying he slapped his name on someone else’s work. What he’s KNOWN for is attacking a black nominee for the Supreme Court because he was black and putting thousands of blacks in jail on minor charges and calling them “predators”. That’s your boy; an incompetent legislator but rabid racist.

Great job proving @retire05: point.

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@Ronald J. Ward:

While a quick Wikipedia search could get that info and while most people of political knowledge know he’s mainly known for his Senate Judiciary Committee position and championing drug policies, crime prevention, civil liberties issues, and his involvement in passing the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and the Violence Against Women Act, the question is irrelevant on several fronts.

Why would I source Wikipedia? 1) it gives no author credit so far all I know, the entry on Joe Biden could have been written by a Biden staffer and 2) Wikipedia leans far left and had I presented a conservative site, you would dismiss it summarily.

It was during the debate on the Violent Crime Control Act that Biden actually voiced his racism, something that doesn’t seem to bother you.

For starters, it exposes an ignorance or an intention to mislead because if you understand how legislation works, you know that as a senator, he only gets 1 vote out of 100 which in most cases still has to pass the lower chamber as well as the Executive Branch. And as VP, his only legislative power was to break a 50/50 senate tie. So these talking points of why didn’t he do this or that are rather silly.

I have already shown my knowledge of how our government works, while you, on the other hand, have to rely on what you can glean from the internet. So BFD, when the Violent Crime and Control Act was passed, the Democrats controlled the House, the Senate and the Oval Office. Show me not impressed that they shoved thru a bill that affected minorities adversely. In 2015, regarding that very bill, Bill Clinton admitted that he “signed a bill that made the problem worse, and I want to admit it.” So, whoo-hoo, let’s give Biden credit for casting a “yea” vote on a bill that made things worse, not better, in a House controlled by Democrats 258 to 176. Proof that Democrats rarely create legislation that does good, and only creates legislation that creates even more problems than resolved.

But mainly, it doesn’t matter because he’s the people’s choice to lead the country.

Only if you can justify the obvious fraud committed by the left in the November 2020 election. I’m sure you have the mental capacity to do that.

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@retire05:

Only if you can justify the obvious fraud committed by the left in the November 2020 election.

Chase Elliot doesn’t have to prove he was the 2020 NASCAR champion nor do the Kansas City Chiefs have to defend their Super Bowl victory or even as controversial as it was, that Authentic took the roses at the Kentucky Derby.

For the losers to just make bogus claims and then demand the winner to prove them wrong goes against any form of reasonable thinking.

If your case has merit, put it on the table. Team Trump, even after openly saying they’d reject a loss and loaded up the judges for such an event, have failed to make a credible case.

It long past time for Trump and his basket of gullibles to either put up or shut up.

As Dobbs said, they seem to be having the devil of a time doing it.

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