The Texas lawsuit is the real Kraken

This whole thing is not over yet we will not stand for this attempt to steal the election by the Democrats and the Globalists

@Nathan Blue:

No self-respecting Democrat voter would accept a fraud election like this, even if their candidate “won”.

I’m afraid there are very few “self-respecting” Democrats in existence. If they had any self-respect, respect for laws or respect for our Constitution, they wouldn’t be Democrats.

It will take great courage to decide the first case against fraud. This will cause a massive cascade of cases showing the massive fraud and assault on our republic. But the evidence is overwhelming.

@Deplorable Me:

It will take great courage to decide the first case against fraud. This will cause a massive cascade of cases showing the massive fraud and assault on our republic. But the evidence is overwhelming.

Honestly, I think many Dem voters just don’t care; they are fine with Democrat Rule and tacitly encourage the end of our democracy.

That’s my real concern. Idiots like Ron/AJ have been so blinded by hatred, they really want blood and they want domination.

Like the German townsfolk who hated Jews, and didn’t ask questions or think too hard about what they saw…Jews suddenly being gone.

That’s the same thing now. Democrats and their, uh, “followers” are channeling there inner weaknesses. A win for Biden means Ron/AJ can find some kind of violent meaning in his inefficient life.

I’m afraid that’s the real pandemic: useless people with meaningless lives simply jealous of those “with”, so they march as they always have.

@Nathan Blue: Grape vine they have saved them and are uploading to different site, TG for our digital army. That is history they are destroying a full chicom move.

No, because they have been fed a steady diet of “Hate Trump because we say so. Don’t question our accusations.” They don’t even know why. Trump is a racist because the liberal media says so. Trump is a Russian agent because the liberal media says so. Trump cheated on his taxes because the liberal media says so. Trump should be impeached because the liberal media says so. Not a one questions or does their own research to expose the lies they are told and which they believe.

That’s actually my point. They “need” to have Trump be the enemy. He’s the success they can’t have, or won’t go after.

He didn’t give poor people money, he gave them jobs. The burden of living a life worth living never goes away.

Democrats are the weakest among us who hate their lives and want more…more…more….

Upper class whites are using poor people as a cover for what they really want: more money for themselves, not the poor. They mask that sentiment as “helping the poor”, but they really hate the rich.

Bernie Sanders is a rich guy telling you hate the rich. WTF?

The Dem voters, they know what they are doing..somewhere, deep-down.

They want there way, period. They are the “have-nots”, as they have not the self-image or self-mastery or self-understanding or the self-respect they really desire.

Money, status, and title can’t provide that.

Thus, they are easily led by their simple true motive: Jealously.

@Deplorable Me:

That’s why Democrats support shut-downs; they need to keep people in poverty for better control.

Absolutely. It’s a play from the CCP playbook, which is the Democrat Party playbook. Keep them poor, keep them angry…never deliver, but then blame it on your enemies by way of MASSIVE media disinformation and propaganda.

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BREAKING: The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 to take up the lawsuit from Texas, which now has a total of 10 states. TN has just joined the suit against GA, PA, WI, and MI.

In less than 24 hours another 7 states have added themselves to this case.
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/12/09/17-states-join-texas-general-election-supreme-court-lawsuit-swing-states/
By the time it is heard in SCOTUS, more states will have probably added themselves to this.

SCOTUS will either uphold the Constitution in which case Biden officially loses or they will take the easy way out in order not to play the “bad guy” role to avoid being targeted by the mob and claim that they can’t “overstep” their authority and reverse an election or that the 18 states suing have no right to tell other states how to run their elections or use some other lame excuse. These days sticking up for the Constitution and doing what is right is frowned upon. Doing so requires a spine.

@Ronald J. Ward: “Like this” is massive, widespread fraud, the only way Democrats know how to operate any more.

@Ronald J. Ward: I see you’re running out of mouth-diarrhea to spin.

Demanding legal votes disenfranchises no one. Allowing illegal votes abolishes the election and allows for no legitimate winner.

I know you want to Biden to win…know you NEED Biden to win.

But he didn’t.

“Like this” is knowing you are trying desperately to cling to a result you know is fallacious.

I fully expect American citizens and the President to defend our elections. All you can muster is CNN deflection talking points rather than defending the truth.

So the new “like this” being presented is 1 state suing 4 other states for making rule changes prior to the elections, wanting the voice of the people rejected with obvious hopes of those state legislators to hand the win to Trump.

The “voice of the people” is not truckloads of fraud ballots, creating classes of voting, counting vote without poll watchers, or giving poor people a beer for their ballot.

That’s fraud, and it’s UnConstitutional.

Biden won nothing.

Again, comrade, I ask the question:

“Like this? You want the election to be “won” like this?”

@kitt:

Rarely do you make sense in your responses. You didn’t disappoint.

You might want to the meaning of the word disenfranchisement (unless you’re using some kind of reverse rubber/glue stratagem or something).

As far as explaining what to who, attempts to rationalize with a Trump licker have been a tall order from the start. Hell, you guys still think he saved us from an Obama economic crash and that Mexico is paying for a wall. The basket of gullibles are just to eager to be gaslighted by their con man master.

@Ronald J. Ward:

You might want to the meaning of the word disenfranchisement (unless you’re using some kind of reverse rubber/glue stratagem or something).

Proof you did not read the lawsuit, watch any of the hearings and you are an ignorant inbred.
Again we cannot understand the issue for you.
You are either really stupid or, or, or, well ‘Ill just go with that.

@Greg:

Not only would it selectively disenfranchise approximately 20 million voters, it would be an open invitation for any state to dictate the laws of other states on how other states run their elections- even after the votes have been counted and didn’t pan out the way a given state had hoped.

@Nathan Blue:

The voices in your head may very well have you convinced Biden lost.

The voices on the SCOTUS just told TX to stick their assault on our democracy and attempts to defy the will of the voters up their ass.

Granted, the above may not have been exactly verbatim.

December 11, 2020 – Supreme Court rejects Texas’ effort to overturn election in fatal blow to Trump legal blitz to stop Biden

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday said it would not consider a lawsuit filed by Texas that sought to overturn Joe Biden’s election victory in four battleground states.

The court ruled that Texas had no legal right to challenge how other states conduct their elections, and thus lacked standing to file the suit.

While the suit attracted President Trump’s support and was endorsed by many Republicans in Congress, it suffered from several legal and factual shortcomings.

President Donald Trump called the case “the big one,” and 126 of the 196 Republicans in the U.S. House urged the court to take it.

Supporters of the Trump campaign saw the Texas suit as their best hope for derailing a victory for Joe Biden before the actual presidential vote is cast by the Electoral College on Monday.

Never before had any state asked the court to do what Texas proposed, to nullify election results from other states. The lawsuit sought to delay the vote of presidential electors in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, arguing that voting procedures in those states violated their own state laws.

Allowing them to cast their electoral votes, Texas said, would “cement a potentially illegitimate election result.”

Both conservative and liberal legal experts alike said the lawsuit had a fatal flaw, because Texas had no authority to claim that it was injured or that its own voters were affected in any way by election procedures in another state.

Pennsylvania made that point in urging the court to dismiss the case.

“Texas has not suffered harm simply because it dislikes the result of the election, and nothing in the text, history, or structure of the Constitution supports Texas’s view that it can dictate the manner in which four other states run their elections,” Pennsylvania said.

The other battleground states said allowing the lawsuit to proceed would invite lawsuits over virtually any future federal election.

“Texas proposes an extraordinary intrusion into Wisconsin’s and the other defendant states’ elections, a task that the Constitution leaves to each state,” the state said in its response to the suit. “Wisconsin has conducted its election and its voters have chosen a winning candidate for their state. Texas’s bid to nullify that choice is devoid of a legal foundation or a factual basis.”

The lawsuit was filed Monday by Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general. Among its claims was that the chances of a Biden victory were “less than one in a quadrillion.” That statement was widely ridiculed, because it was based on a statistician’s assumption that voters showed exactly the same party preferences as they did in 2016.

“Wow!” wrote David Post of the libertarian Cato Institute on a conservative legal blog. “If mail-in voters had the same preferences as in-person voters, Trump must have won!! And if my aunt had four wheels, she’d be a motorcar!!”

The four battleground states, joined by friend-of-court briefs from Democratic attorneys general from 20 states and the District of Columbia, said Texas also waited too long to bring its claim to court.

Many of the new voting procedures, such as a move by the Pennsylvania legislature to allow no-excuse voting by mail, were adopted months ago. They were also unsuccessfully challenged in the courts of the four states, another point against the Texas suit.

The Texas lawsuit attracted support from attorneys general of 16 other red states. One notable exception was Ohio’s Republican attorney general, Dave Yost. He said that federal courts “lack authority to change the legislatively chosen method for appointing presidential electors.”

Mark Gordon, the Republican governor of Wyoming, where Trump won 70 percent of the vote, said he and his attorney general declined to sign on to the red state brief.

“We believe that the case could have unintended consequences relating to a constitutional principle that the state of Wyoming holds dear, that states are sovereign, free to govern themselves,” he said.

Trump and Republicans in seven states have so far filed nearly 60 lawsuits to challenge election procedures, but not a single outcome was changed.

John Foriter, an election law expert at the Bipartisan Policy Center in Washington, said once the electors cast their votes Monday, lawsuits face even greater odds against undoing a Biden victory.

“I think the answer is that the court challenges are pretty well done.”

@Greg:

The “big one” was a dud but Trump raised $ hundreds of millions.

The basket of gullibles were had again.

The case in Wisconsin can now advance to our Supreme court. The lower court said laws clearly ignored by some clerks and some polling place supervisors, was perfectly legal. Making policy of lawless supervisors over-ride our legislators.
One Supervisor in todays hearing defended the illegal policy by saying,” Well they didnt complain 4 years ago in the recount. Maybe Jill should have.
Another difference no drop boxes, 120,000 more indefinetly confined after they advertised on the radio how to circumvent our ID laws and were chastised by our SC, they said they would not do that again. Too late the loop hole was out of the bag.
Wisconsin fought 10 years for voter ID it burns my biscuits that they allow this loophole without even a doctors excuse. Used poorly trained poll workers from a community organizers picklist and not our trained NG on election night.
Wisconsin Supreme Court agrees to hear Trump election challenge, arguments set for Saturday

@Greg: Yeah, anal.

Attorney Matthew DePerno CONFIRMS Dominion Voting Machines in Michigan County CHANGED VOTES From Trump to Biden — IT WAS NOT HUMAN ERROR!
The SOS doing her best to bury this.

@Deplorable Me: At this point, thanks to the demokrats’ attempted power grab, no matter who gets sworn in be it President Trump, Biden, or Commiela Harris they will be seen as illegitimate by half the country.

Yeah, the only cases they want to be a part of is where blatant lies serve as “evidence”.

They have not only damaged the integrity of our elections, they have also damaged our court system. Expert witness testimony and sworn affidavits are no longer considered evidence. That upends our justice system. What they should do is look at all these judges’ past records and count the number of times they allowed those two forms of evidence in their court rooms and then publicly expose them.

@another vet:

At this point, thanks to the demokrats’ attempted power grab, no matter who gets sworn in be it President Trump, Biden, or Commiela Harris they will be seen as illegitimate by half the country.

The thing is, we are now living in 2 different worlds. There’s the real world and then there’s Trumpland. Trumpland consists of indoctrinated cultists who unknowingly nod accordingly that Mexico is paying for a magical wall which will protect them from the brown folks as well as women and Chinese taking their jobs and all the other white grievances they’ve encountered over the years. They’ve allowed themselves to believe nonsense and misinformation such as Trump built a great economy or that the deficit isn’t exploding right in front of their eyes or that COVID never rounded any curve and that is in fact ravaging the country in real time or that Trump never breached the Hatch Act or assaulted peaceful protesters for a photo op or that he isn’t a racist or even isn’t a dishonest con man.. They cannot see or entertain the idea that the latest benchslap they got from the Supremes was really another profiteering stunt that shifted hundreds of millions of dollars into Trump’s pocket.

You are correct that the division isn’t going away by any stretch.

Expert witness testimony and sworn affidavits are no longer considered evidence. That upends our justice system. What they should do is look at all these judges’ past records and count the number of times they allowed those two forms of evidence in their court rooms and then publicly expose them.

The above is Trumpland talk, inconsistent with the real world. This is also the difference in where the people promoting the indoctrination of Trumpland cultists understand their limitations. Trump. Rudy, Newsmax, Breitbart, Tucker, Hannity, Rush, and so forth know that they can sell you that bull all day long and that you will absorb and retain every word (quite often, the basket of gulibles are actually looking for those words to begin with). They can lie repeatedly and often to you and each of them can repeatedly tell you the same lie. BUT THEY CANNOT GO INTO A COURTROOM AND TELL THESE LIES. This is why they come up short time and time again.

And if we “look at all these judges’ past records and count the number of times they allowed those two forms of evidence in their court rooms”, we’re finding conservative and even Trump appointed judges ruling against the Trump scam.

The basket of gulibles were told that the now benchslapped TX suit was asinine and faced major hurdles such as standing, latches, safe harbor deadlines, and that the early morning rebound of of Biden was expected and predicted to occur because in person ballots were counted first. They rejected those facts, just couldn’t conceive any realities or credible arguments that conflicted with the allegiance to their Wall building/Mexico paying hero who’s protecting them from all the persecutors of their white heritage.

I don’t expect any of the basket to agree anymore than I could successfully argue with them why 2 plus 2 doesn’t equal a cow. The basket of gulibles didn’t turn into a basket of cultists overnight. For the past 4 years, the basket has been told by the leader of our government to reject any and all news outlets who dare report anything negative about the leader of our government.

The basket swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

@kitt:

Money laundering, tax evasion, child molestation,severe drug addiction , dead beat daddy and worse things ,thats the son that good ol Joe says he is proud of cause he got a cut of Hunters treasonous Russian and Chinese deals. He knew and assisted in Hunters activities.

Anyone like AJ that revels in massive voter fraud and trampling of the Constitution would be greatly impressed with the record Hunter has racked up.

And the rotten apple doesn’t fall far from the groping tree.

@kitt:

What is your evidence that you are not in the world of cult like belief?
While we look to many sources you look to very few.

The FA basket (as well as the Trump basket in general) has consistently denounced CNN, NYT, WAPO, ABC, CBS, NBC, AP, Reuters, NRP, and the list goes on and on. You won’t even consider the info it it’s associated to these sources. Even quite often, you refuse to disclose how or where you get your info. Nathan even says he conjures it up in his head. Deplorable genuflects to Newsmax and the Federalist.

So spare me the bullshit that you even attempt to make an open minded analysis.

This brings us to your statement of which side is the cultists and which is in the real world. Did or was Mexico ever going to pay for a wall? Is Trump a serial liar? Was his assault on peaceful protestors justified? Are we rounding the curve on COVID? Did Trump build a great economy? What was the motive of Trump’s admission at a rally in Tulsa that he intentionally slowed COVID testing? When the Trump admin sent guidance of lockdowns in states due to COVID, why did he defy his own mandates and advised thugs to “liberate” those very states? And why selective states? With the CARES Act that he signed which laid out congressional oversite of $1.5 trillion, by what justification did he defy his own signed legislation and doled these funds out to his political allies and top donors?
How in the world can you stand behind a concept that he was exonerated on impeachment charges when he himself admitted to it, his own legal team admitted to “mountains of evidence” and the Republican senate admitted they’d acquit regardless of any evidence. How can you claim the Mueller investigation was a hoax when many of his own orbit was charged and convicted and he was not charged only due to his presidential immunity? And this is just a short list?

You cannot accept a possible wrongdoing on his part of any of these and there’s no amount of evidence or facts that would move you. This is the same with the fact TX didn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the suit or that the late night surge of Biden votes was expected due to the low expectation of Rs voting by mail.

The ones in denial of reality is obvious. And yeah I know, you will turn that to accuse me of being in denial. The rubber/glue game, in the real world, is all you have.

@Ronald J. Ward:

The FA basket (as well as the Trump basket in general) has consistently denounced CNN, NYT, WAPO, ABC, CBS, NBC, AP, Reuters, NRP, and the list goes on and on. You won’t even consider the info it it’s associated to these sources.

Would not those also be the same sources that guaranteed their viewers, and readers (you included obviously) that the “Trump Colluded With The Russians” was the truth and even allowed Adam Shiff, and Fang Fang’s bump partner to declare, without substantion, that there was clear evidence of such claim? Would not those also be the same sources that told their viewers, and readers, that the Hunter Biden scandal was “Russia” disinformation?

Would not also be the same sources that gave Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. a tongue bath for 8 long years, even as Obama wire tapped journalists, kicked journalists off the AF1 press staff, jailed whistleblowers and basically shut down any press that refused to worship at the alter of Obama?

So, in spite of the lies told by those sources, all in partisan style, you chastise those of us who think “You fool me once, shame on me. You fool me twice, shame on you” and no longer trust the likes of Fredo Cuomo, Rachael Maddow, Don Lemon et al while you dismiss journalists and journalist bloggers on the opposite side of your aisle.

You disregard actual evidence of election fraud, and when we don’t buy into your lie, you label us with a handle you think is insulting. That is the mark of a true loser.

I am not a cultist.
I AM THE STORM.

@Ronald J. Ward:

The FA basket (as well as the Trump basket in general) has consistently denounced CNN, NYT, WAPO, ABC, CBS, NBC, AP, Reuters, NRP, and the list goes on and on. You won’t even consider the info it it’s associated to these sources.

First you do not address my request for proof.
We have used the above outlets as reference often, NPRs and CNNs reports on Dominion voting systems. Quoted them but mostly to mock them and their unamed sources that all were proved by wrong by a Special Counsel, who by the way wiped their phones, so Hillary like. They have been lying and burying stories for much longer than 12 years.
Back in the 60s it was a horrible scandal to know the CIA had operation mockingbird, now they hire CIA as they retire as frontline talking heads.
The CIA has long played the international game of propaganda required by an intelligence agency, but during the Cold War, the Agency paid and intimidated journalists into helping promote its messages. Famous Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein broke the story in 1977 for Rolling Stone. Bernstein revealed the workings of Operation Mockingbird, in which many journalists – included Pulitzer Prize winners – joined the CIA’s payroll, writing fake stories to disseminate the agency’s agitprop and providing intelligence. Other journalists were threatened and blackmailed into cooperating with Mockingbird, and many were given falsified or fabricated information about their actions in order to engender their support for the CIA’s mission. The program has never been officially discontinued.
Even calling Biden President Elect before the electors are sent and congress calls the race is a form of mind conditioning. The Media and Big tech oligarchs dont get to call the race. Its a scandal they did not call Alaska with its small population for 8 days. But called NV and AZ the second the polls closed but no votes counted
Its shameful you cant see beyond your list above.
Now the digital army is uncovering lots and lots of china connections with governors of both parties.
Newsome recall threat
Wittmer impeachment proceeding.
Did you even know have your news sources reported on this ? If not pull your head out of your mockingbird media’s ass.