A few weeks ago some random Lefty Troll dropped a drive by comment on an old link asking, Tell me, Brother Bob, do you support all the Republican deficit spending that Trump has signed-off on ? I don’t see anyone on the right saying “boo” about it. It’s a fair question, or it would be if if the guy was interested in conversation. Whenever a Lefty drops a comment on an old link it’s just to try to sucker us Normals into wasting time responding to them (but thank you for replying, Kitt). But it is still a valid question.
Back in my tour guide days one of my groups walked by The National Mall while a massive Tea Party rally was happening. I talked about the original Tea Party in 1773, how the current movement started , and some of the criticism toward it (I took pride in the fact that the foreigners were rarely able to guess my politics, but they always knew I was proud to be an American), and one of the criticisms was that none of these protests came out during the Dubya presidency. I agreed that it was a fair point, and also pointed out that most of these critics were rather vocal anti war protesters for years who magically vanished in January 2009, despite America’s continued involvements in overseas wars. I concluded my talk by saying that if there’s one thing that we love to do in the US is to elect officials and then take to the streets telling them how much we dislike them, and there’s nothing more American than that!
Which brings us to today and the amounts that the Federal Debt has increased since Presient Trump came into office in 2016. In rough numbers, under Obama the debt roughtly doubled fro $10 to $20 Trillion. President Trump is already on pace to surpas Barry O, with an increase of $6T so far. I could go into circumstances around both numbers, pull out some of my old spreadsheets, explain who controls the Federal Budget, but that’s not the purpose of this post. As I wrote eight years ago, If You Want to Save Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, Stop Trying to Save Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The point of the post is that nobody on The Left is capable of having an adult conversation on the topic, nor will they until we start feeling pain from it. But that’s not the point here, either.
The question is why we haven’t been raising the alarms over debt as we did a few years ago. The simple answer is that we had a referendum in the 2012 presidential election and were told to pound sand. It doesn’t mean we stopped caring, it’s just that as important as this issue is, it’s not the highest priority. We have one of our two major political parties declaring that the US is a horrible country and must be destroyed. The Democrats are backing destroying our cities, harassing people who don’t fall in line with their views, bankrupting our country with a Green New Deal, crippling our energy industry, and literally destroying some of our most basic elements to our government’s balance of power such as the Senate, the Electoral College, and the Supreme Court. For that matter, indoctrinating our kids in the schools isn’t enough, now they literally feel entitled to kidnap, drug and mutilate our children.
To put this in personal terms, this is like working on getting your household budget in order while there are thugs trying to break into your house to rob you and hurt your family. It doesn’t make having your home’s finances in order any less important; it just isn’t as urgent as being directly attacked.Make no mistake, we still care, but for the moment there are bigger battles to fight.
And of course, if the day ever comes that any Lefties are ready to have a serious discussion on the topic we’ll be here.
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— Razor (@hale_razor) October 23, 2020
New York now sends police into the homes of Jews, but no widespread condemnation from all the people who say they hate Nazis because Dem fascism is safety and goodness. https://t.co/uBrOrGCaZ6
— Razor (@hale_razor) October 23, 2020
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I’d like to see a Left-winger show me our revenue streams, against the pre-covid debt.
Meanwhile, Democrats want to increase the debt…while they tell me to vote against Trump because of the debt?
Idiots.
@Nathan Blue:
Prior to Trump’s now admitted defeat on the virus, the deficit had spiraled out of control mainly due to his tax breaks for the wealthy. Later, he and Rs took $1/2 trillion for the wealthy from the CARES act.
This is simply history repeating itself as we saw much the same during the GWB/GOP “spent like drunken sailors” era.
The concern of the deficit is simply something they claim while knowing all along they’re damn liars, kinda like their strong principle beliefs that a SCOTUS seat should wait after an election.
I more than one asked our pet troll how many departments comprise the US Government, thing is even the government doesnt know. They still farm out contracts to private companies. They create new ones all the time tout them like the appliances in infomercials, yet never get rid of the old last appliance you will ever need they are still plugged in sucking electricity.
They want to cut our defense or social security police departments, never themselves.
We know there are at least 17 IC departments, we cant get by with only 15?
Side note is there a Bon Jovi curse?
Jon Bon Jovi is set to perform at Biden’s drive-in rally in Luzerne County. His appearance is reminding some of Election Day eve in 2016, when he was part of a huge outdoor concert with the Obamas and then-Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in Philadelphia. That event came mere hours before Clinton lost to Donald Trump.
Cher at 74 is there to get out the youth vote.
@Nathan Blue: That’s OK, if it weren’t for double standards The Radical Left wouldn’t have any at all.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Then how come Pelosi wigged out over President Trump raising taxes on the wealthy? Google “repeal of SALT deduction since you probably missed it.
And wasn’t it President Trump who insisted that wealthy European nations pay their fair share of their defense budgets?
I’m actually old enough to remember when Leftists supported raising taxes on the wealthy
@kitt: So, if I’m hearing you correctly we should be trying to get Bon Jovi to start perorming Democrats in lose races all the way down the ticket? This could very be well how we save New Jersey!
@Brother Bob: Here we have him playing to another drive in rally
You gotta love the current liberals on the one hand telling Trump he should “follow the science” and shut down the economy and then act as if they are shocked and surprised that $5 trillion has been spent to help those China put out of work (in addition to Pelosi’s worthless, needless, wasteful pork). Why, it’s as if they have no idea what wild, massive spending causes. Are they really THAT stupid?
@Ronald J. Ward:
Trump didn’t admit defeat on the virus, nor did he actually fail on the virus. The USA did better than some countries, worse than others, but has a case mortality rate and per capita infection rate lower than the average. Fauci: said we’d be at 250,000 dead if we did everything right, and 2 million plus if we did things wrong.
We did everything right.
Epic win for Trump, and the country.
I understand the low-information types like you never questioned the daily deluge of “Trump failed, Trump failed, Trump failed”, but don’t make yourself look like an idiot by parroting that failed talking point here.
Trump didn’t botch the virus. The Dems simply lost the 2016 election and can’t get over it, not even to save the lives of Americans.
After Kavanaugh and the sham impeachment, the Republicans have every right and reason to cram the SCOTUS nomination down the throats of treasonous Democrats.
They’ve earned the treatment, and will now choke on it like the wh*res they are.
@Brother Bob:
Saaaaay…. wasn’t that supposed to cause the collapse of NATO and the Russian overrun of Europe? Like pulling out of Syria was going to cause the slaughter of Kurds? Or Trump’s election was going to crash the markets and economy? Or moving our embassy was going to burn the Middle East do the ground? How can the left be so brilliant to always be right about everything? Impressive!
@Nathan Blue:
Please elaborate
@Nathan Blue:
I understand you’ve gone full blown propaganda theory batshit crazy (or whatever it takes to lick Trump ass) but let’s review your comment:
Okay so you want to still defend Trump for bribing Ukraine with congressional approve funding for a political edge (even though reasonable arguments and facts debunk that-along with the obvious obstruction charge), so be it. I mean, Trump shoots kids, you kiss Trump ass and blame the kids. I get it. And I also get the fact that you feel Dems are horrible because they dared to question an anti-worker plutocrat such as Kavanaugh (R) and ultimately hurt his feelings. How dare they have a voice?
But it’s justifiable to you, as you say, to “have every right and reason to cram the SCOTUS nomination down the throats” of roughly half of the Americans because you disagree with their charges against Trump and they interrogated a Trump nominee, somehow justifying their obstruction of allowing a black president they hated with their every fiber to appoint anyone for that seat. Had Dems NOT impeached Trump and welcomed Kavanaugh (R) with open arms, it would then be outrageous for Republican’s to lie to the American people that 8 months before a presidential election was too short and a SCOUTS seats should be left up to the people to decide? If we make Rs mad, it’s okay to “cram”? If we don’t make them mad, they should honor their very own promises (Lindsay Grahams comes to mind)?
I predicted long ago how far you and your ilk would travel down the Trump rabbit hole. You’ve actually gone beyond my expectations.
@Ronald J. Ward:
In 8 short days you will see it again.
Justice Amy will be sworn in tonight or tomorrow.
Damn you are such a pathetic cry baby loser.
@Ronald J. Ward: Damn, the truth has no appeal to you whatsoever, does it?
@kitt:
Trump ass suckers always have to distract from the argument.
That argument being from the very title of this thread: “No, We’re not Hypocrites”.
It isn’t about us losing or winning but rather that yes, you really are.
If Trump shoots babies and Dems call him out, Trump ass suckers will defend him and only come up for air to chastise Dems for being sore losers which is, so 3 years ago.
@Ronald J. Ward: Amy is confirmed. Suck it.
@Ronald J. Ward:
The charge that went to the Senate after the Impeachment Inquiry was obstruction…for the inquiry itself.
While they changes the charge every day, from quid pro quo to bribery, etc, they didn’t have the evidence or cause to push it to the Senate, hence the silly and dismiss-able charge of “obstruction”.
Trump did not bribe the Ukriane, at least not by any legal or even rational measure. Joe Biden, however, is indeed suspect and now is under the scrutiny of the FBI.
I’m ok if they say he’s clean, but YOU WILL NOT parrot that Trump bribed the Ukraine. The impeachment inquiry, a sham trial that tried to bypass our legal system and hide Democrat corruption, DID NOT PROVE OR EVEN FIND TRUMP GUILTY OF BRIBERY…QPQ…ER…SOMETHING.
There’s nothing obvious about it, and we have laws and courts for a reason. Biden and Trump both are innocent until proven guilty. Biden has real dirt on him, however.
Trump does not.
After raking Kavanugh through the fabricated muck, trying to take down a sitting President because the inside job to make Hillary win failed, and then threatening the SCOTUS outside the court (Schumer is insane), Trump and Republicans have no reason to allow the Democrats any say in this. There partisan war has consequences.
ACB is in and you and your foolish Party should focus on winning elections instead of changing rules and engineering hoaxes.
We deserve better than what the shrinking minority of Democrat voters are trying to give us.
@Ronald J. Ward: So, I’m going to kindly take you by the scruff and explain something.
You win hearts and minds by making a point, by having a compelling argument.
“Trump ass-lickers” statements relegates you to the same pile as KKK members and the rednecks you, without any basis, think all non-Leftists are. You’re the idiot, you’re the uneducated, you’re the reprobate. You.
Trump hasn’t shot anyone. Democrat voters, however, have. That’s something you need to look into instead of embarrassing yourself on the internet.
hypocrisy: definition
@Greg: Careful, troll. That’s a two-way street.
Both parties are hypocrites.
The Democrats, however, more so.
The president is that if there is a same party Senate and President, they confirm.
Done.
@Greg: SO you’re saying that the Dems are hypocrites for pushing Merrick Garland? Glad we agree!
@Ronald J. Ward:
Spoken as a man of experience?
@Brother Bob, #21:
You know perfectly well what I’m saying.
Merrick Garland was nominated 8 months before an election, but given no consideration. Republicans asserted that no action should be taken because the people must be allowed to weigh in on so important a matter.
Amy Coney Barrett’s nomination was rammed through by the same republicans only 8 days before an election.
There’s really no question about where the blatant hypocrisy can be found in those simple facts.
Interestingly, when the American people finally did weigh in on election day, November 2016, the republican presidential candidate lost the popular election by nearly 3 million votes.
Republican have forgotten something besides their important principle that supreme court confirmations should not take place in an election year. Shakespeare fit the thought into a nutshell: “What’s past is prologue.” That doesn’t necessarily include odd electoral college outcomes.
@Greg:
Ha ha ha . . . I love it.
@Nathan Blue:
The covid-19 virus came from China.
China . . . and what’s funny (funny strange) is that every year something comes from China that makes people sick.
Biological warfare has been used for centuries, what kind of an idiot would think the Chinese government isn’t doing it to us this time?
@Greg: So you’re saying that a Senate that was controlled by the same party behaved the same in both instances, in accordance to the rules that both sides agreed on beforehand? What an egregious offense! The Dems however, have been total hyopcites as to when the Senate should and should not advise.
And I see you have a new ally in Chinga tu madre – from what I’ve seen of him so far you guys should get alingjust great.
@Greg:
Again, based on the rules that both parties agreed on beforehand, who won the Electoral vote?
@Greg:
That’s because, per the Constitution (something Democrats don’t seem to be aware of) it is up to the Senate’s discretion to take up the nominee or not. They don’t have to explain it to you.
@Brother Bob, #26:
I’ve noticed that Trump eventually has this effect on the reasoning abilities and/or the honesty of everyone who continues to support him.
There is no “so you are saying.” There is what I said, which I believe was perfectly clear.
Republicans claimed be upholding an important principle as the rationalization for their actions in 2016, and then abandoned it the moment it became inconvenient. It’s the same with any number of things. Their words are meaningless. Their avowed principles are only for show. The truth about them is defined by their actions.
@Greg: When Biden said no one lost their insurance because of Obamacare, was he lying? When Biden said he never discussed Hunter’s business deals with him, was he lying? When Biden said he never said he would ban fracking and end the fossil fuel energy industry, was he lying?
Let’s see is reasoning and honest.
You want honest? I don’t actually care whether Joe Biden said any of those things at some point or not. I would vote for almost any functional, psychologically normal adult as an alternative to the egocentric lunatic presently occupying the White House. I consider the coming election to be about the removal of a curse that was somehow placed on our nation. I don’t think Donald Trump makes any distinction whatsoever between truth and lies. I think Joe Biden has and is guided by moral principles, while Trump does not and is not. I don’t think Donald Trump is fit to hold any public office or position of trust, let alone the presidency. If he ran a bank, I would move my money somewhere else. If I had a young daughter, I wouldn’t let her be alone in his presence. If he ran a hospital, I would never go there.
joe biden lies more than obama
@Greg: So, corrupt, liar, incompetent, incoherent, he’s your guy. Meanwhile, to find anything to criticize Trump for, you have to make it up. Wow.
Just wow.
As Lindsay Graham stated, Republicans did not consider Obama’s nominee because they are not Democrats. At the same time, Obama was leaving office and consequently faced no accountability for that nomination. Simple solution, Hilliary wins the election and re-nominates Garland. Oops, that damned electoral college again. We in Michigan have to deal with Detroit electing our Senators year after year. We don’t want LA, New York, San Francisco, Detroit and Chicago electing a President by popular vote.
@Greg:
Let’s be honest, shall we? You voted for Biden, who is clearly mentally lacking, for the same reason you voted for Hillary. They are the candidates who support moving the nation to a more Socialist government. U.S. Constitution be damned.
Now your Socialist Democrat Party is having a snit fit over ACB. Why is that, Comrade Greggie, if Roe V. Wade and Obamacare are on such solid Constitutional ground? You see, after years of judge shopping and universal decrees, the left now realizes the party is over. But it was their party and they can now cry if they want to.
@retire05, #35:
Because of who Donald Trump and his obedient Senate majority have put in place to interpret the Constitution.
No phrase more accurately describes what Trump and the GOP have done than “judicial activism”. The entire point of their judicial and
Supreme Court exercise is to destroy through the courts what they cannot destroy through the legislative process as elected instruments of the will of the people.
This is how they intend to impose their minority views on the majority of the American people. This is how they’ll attack the right of every woman to control her own reproductive function, the right of the poor to have access to medical care, public education, Social Security, Medicare, environmental protections, and the guaranteed right of every citizen to vote.
For Trump, of course, it’s primarily seen as a means to remain in office. He doesn’t personally give a rat’s rear end about all the other issues. He doesn’t care about that any more than about the COVID-19 body count, which he views only in political terms. Trump’s universe revolves around Trump. He’s the star of the show.
Justice Kavanaugh seems to argue no votes should be counted after Election Day. He may get his wish in key states.
October 27, 2020 – Trump wants election night result, but GOP has fought to make sure many ballots won’t be counted by then
Well, yeah, that’s obviously been part of the the plan for months now. The man can’t win an honest election.
@Greg: We here in Wisconsin want our rules that were passed by our representatives here in the state to be followed. No hanky Panky finding mystery votes in some trunk or warehouse. I just witnessed my neighbors absentee vote yesterday and told him to put it in the city clerks drop box as some asshole decided yesterday the local post office should have a drive thru.That closed the lobby if you needed to have something weighed for proper postage.
Outagamie county may report late the printer made a slight error and 25K ballots already returned cant be read by the machine, so the votes will be transferred to good ballots by hand.
Ive drawn the short straw so its my vote that will cancel out yours, the rest of the FA family s votes will pile up for Trump.
Oh and good morning today is one day closer to the end of the world.
@Greg:
You mean to interpret where is says NOWHERE that anyone has the RIGHT to take a human life out of convenience? Your decrepit party has brought this upon themselves with their barbaric push for abortion at the end of term for any reason whatsoever, even AFTER live birth.
Don’t you have any imagination at all? Is all you can do is take what DEMOCRATS have been doing for the past 20 or so years and blame it on Republicans? What Trump is doing is REVERSING years of Soros-led Democrats installing radical liberal activist judges.
@kitt: Democrats have designed this crisis to make the election as chaotic and ripe for fraud as possible. They want to be able to keep “counting” votes (i.e., manufacture them, put a post mark on them and “find” them) until victory is theirs. In the “Texas Ballot Chaser” article (which Greg won’t visit) we see Democrat voter fraud (you know, that never happens) at work trying to illegally “turn Texas blue”. Nothing is beneath them.
@Greg:
Judicial activism is when a Party (i.e. Democrats) judge shop for a federal judge who will issue a “universal” ruling. Judicial activism is when a judge will create a law that the Democrats could not get passed in the legislature. THAT is judicial activism.
A woman has control over her own reproductive functions PRIOR to conception. She can use birth control methods or just say “No.” Abortion is nothing more than the killing of a human being yet to be born.
Where in the Constitution does it give someone the right to the services of another (health care), public education is a state/local issue, not a federal issue guaranteed in the Constitution; SS/Medicare is unConstitutional; environmental protections are the responsibility of everyone but you would force your poorly informed “consensus” on those who have disproven it; and everyone has a right to vote who is eligible under the guidelines set out by their state legislatures.
You have argued that people have the right to the services of medical professionals in the name of life. I have a right then to water, required to sustain life, yet if I don’t pay my water bill, my water will be shut off. How is that legal? It is because that water is provided to me by the services of others.
Mail in ballots were sent out no later that September 18th in Wisconsin (47 days prior to the election). Allowing for ten days postal service, voters should have sent their ballots in by October 24th to meet that travel time. Or, that ballot can be hand delivered to the voting office of their county. There is no reason that anyone’s ballot should be delivered AFTER election day or to count it if it is.
I personally don’t support mail in balloting or even early voting. I don’t know what your state laws are, but my state sets precincts by population and a polling location is required in every polling location. Perhaps you should check your state’s laws regarding polling location.
If it were up to you, voters could start voting three months before the election. Anything for the Democrats to steal elections something they have been doing since the days of Box 13.
@Deplorable Me, #40:
Where does the Constitution legally define “human life”?
The church teachings that Barrett adheres to as her guiding principles officially hold that widely used birth control methods are forbidden, because human life begins at the moment of conception.
Those opposing choice will of course respond immediately by conflating reproductive rights with late-term abortion. Their arguments are almost always fundamentally dishonest premises, which are then used as a basis for an appeal to emotion.
@retire05, #41:
No, that is not the definition. It is what republicans are teeing up by installing judges based on their views concerning a specific set of republican concerns.
@retire05: Democrats support mail in voting for several reasons. One, it forces people to vote early, ideally before Biden does something really stupid that can’t be contained (or his corruption exposed). Second, it provides fertile ground for all their fraud schemes. Third, it causes chaos and confusion which they can exploit (See “second”). Forth, if they lose, they can complain about first, second and third and blame it all on Republicans. Only Democrats conduct themselves this way.
@Greg: Where does it provide the right to take it out of convenience? If it doesn’t mention “human life” then snuffing it out because you got drunk and screwed someone you didn’t know, don’t like or won’t support you isn’t deemed a right, is it?
Choice is to screw or not to screw. Choice is to use contraception or blame others for your mistakes. Choice is NOT deciding to end a pregnancy in the 9th month; that’s murder and you know it. Pretending it isn’t is what will be the doom of abortion.
@Deplorable Me, #44:
That’s another example of the sort of false premise followed by an appeal to emotion that I just mentioned. Who are you, or who am I, to make such generalized assumptions, and then pass judgement on others based upon them?
Without choice, there is no freedom to act in accordance with one’s own beliefs and conscience. There can be no more personal, private, or difficult a decision than the one we’re discussing. You would put that in the hands of the state, making the state an instrument of a particular set of dictates of the church—which happens not to be everyone’s.
@Greg:
So you think the Declaration of Independence should not hold any sway in judicial decisions?
And you know Catholic doctrine how? Are you a student of Canon Law? You seem to think you are an expert on a vast number of issues.
No one opposes choice. You have a choice; sex or no sex, precautions against conception or no precautions. Once you choose to have unprotected sex, you face the consequences of that choice. Taking the life of an unborn child is infanticide, not (as you leftists who have no value in life) believe that it is a choice. Well, in some ways it is a choice; a choice to murder a human being.
And you obtained your law degree where?
@Greg:
If you don’t think you have the right to make such generalized assumptions, what gives the government the right to subject someone to a life of prison because they took the life of another? Where is murder mentioned in the Constitution?
@Deplorable Me:
I think Comrade Greggie supports abortion because he is a racist. After all, 40% of all pregnancies in black women are terminated by abortion. Maybe Comrade Greggie thinks Planned Parenthood is just getting rid of the “weeds” Sanger was hell bent on ridding the U.S. of.
@Greg:
Why does sleepy joe support fracking abroad but not here domestically?
The official views of the conservative Catholic hierarchy on the matter have never been a closely guarded state secret. One doesn’t have to be a theologian to be aware of them, any more than one has to be a lawyer to understand the meaning of written laws.