Why is America on the Brink of Civil War?

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If you’d have asked me even six months ago what the chances of the United States being on the verge of a civil war I would have said probably under 1%. Today I think that number is much closer to 25% and maybe even higher.

Why is that? Simple. Democrats, media and academia…

I grew up on the Navy base on Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. It was a small base but there were a million things to do. Horseback riding, year round sports, a bowling alley, four pools that I can remember, game rooms, gyms, motocross, hiking, scuba diving, surfing, half a dozen outdoor movie theaters – it almost never rained! – karate tournaments and spectacular parades and midways for 4th of July. Cable TV hadn’t reached us and of course the Internet hadn’t been invented, so we spent our time actually doing things… I loved virtually every minute of it, but despite being in something close to nirvana, there were people who hated it and were miserable. We find what we’re looking for.

We often get out of life what we are expecting… are you a glass half full or a glass half empty person? This question explains why America is at the brink of civil war.

We look around and see people burning down our cities, destroying public and private property, disrupting life for millions of Americans who are simply trying to go to work, eat their lunch or shop at a mall. We see people chanting “F the Police”, “No justice, No Peace” holding up “Black Lives Matter” signs and calling everyone and anyone who doesn’t agree with them racists. We see in New York, LA and countless other cities thugs shooting cops, beating civilians and feeling entitled to do so the whole time.



How did we get here? Very simple. We’ve had decades of the Democrat / Media / Academia Industrial Complex telling Americans that the country is racist. That Republicans don’t care about the poor. That Christians are homophobic. That whites have privilege. That America is rife with systematic racism. That cops hunt down and kill unarmed innocent black males with impunity. And of course that if you are a person of color you have no control over your life and the system will not allow you to succeed, regardless of the hard work you put in, the education you achieve or the virtuous life you lead. In essence, they have been proffering the notion that not only is the glass half empty… but that the other guy took your glass and poured half your water into his glass and then poisoned what’s left in yours.

It is upon this decade’s long backdrop of despicable lies that the same group, along with the Obama holdovers in DOJ, has spent the last four years telling us that Donald Trump is a racist bigot. That Donald Trump was bought and paid for by Russia. That Donald Trump is guilty of abuse of power with respect to Ukraine. That Donald Trump is a power hungry fascist who seeks to make himself king by stealing the election and disenfranchising minority voters.

Of course, none of those things are true. None of them. But that has not stopped the media, academia and the Democrats from shilling each of them, repeatedly. And the result is, you have young people – mostly young, but not all by any stretch – who today see exactly what they have been told to see, exactly what they expect to see. If you are told that you can’t succeed regardless of the life you lead, regardless of the hard work you do, then it’s not unexpected that you would want to tear down the system that has boxed you in.

The fact that all the bile that the Democrats have been spewing for decades is not true is of no consequence. The fact that the media blatantly paints a picture that is demonstrably false 24 hours a day, seven days a week is of no consequence. The fact that leftist hack academics have rewritten American history through the perspective of their 21st century woke lenses, is of no consequence. The only thing that is of consequence is power… Democrat power. Nothing else matters. As such, if burning down cities is the cost of power, so be it. If putting targets on the backs of police is the cost of power, so be it. If undermining the basic elements of common courtesy, politeness and civic order are the cost of power, so be it. If destroying the life’s work of shopkeepers and the jobs of workers trying to provide for their families are the cost of power, so be it.

What you are seeing in the streets is not protest, peaceful or otherwise. What America is experiencing is the beginning of a civil war, only one side has not yet awoken to the fact that it is involved in one. Civil wars don’t have to last long nor be bloody, but they can be, and this one might be. But it doesn’t have to be. Stopping it will take no only a firm response by police and the government, but more importantly in the long run, it means expunging from academia the anti-American fascists who have been rewriting American history as a march through hate and oppression and racism. It means discrediting and marginalizing the manipulative media cabal that proffers the “blame America first” or “America is racist” fictions as they seek to drive up temperatures. Finally it will take a party, whether it’s the GOP or some new entity, that finally stands up for the United States and embraces its history, both good and bad. They must be willing to recognize that America is indeed an imperfect place, as it has been since its founding, but that it gets better decade after decade and has done more to advance the condition of mankind than any nation in human history. They must know and be willing to say that the United States is the greatest nation in the history of human civilization and that there is more freedom here, more opportunities here and more prosperity here than anywhere on the planet. That with hard work one can make a better life for himself, for his family and his community.

Imagine what a country could do if those were the ideas that young people were being exposed to every day. Imagine if they expected to succeed… if they expected to be treated fairly… if they had gratitude for our freedoms and what others sacrificed to give it to them. Imagine they understood they are living in a time and place most people in history would have traded their souls for and millions of people risk their lives for every year.

Tell young people their lives aren’t theirs, they can’t succeed and racism is everywhere, and they will believe it find it around every corner. Tell them racism and other evils exist, but they live in the land of opportunity and their success is in their hands, and they will succeed despite the roadblocks. Couple that half full on steroid’s mindset with America’s bounty and the opportunities are infinite.

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GTMO!!! Taught my wife how to snorkel out there. We loved every minute of our time there. Did a tour during the 1994 Cuban boat lift and did three more 6 month tours talking to our “friends” down there. in 2011, 2013, and 2014.

Somebody wise once said “despite being in something close to nirvana, there were people who hated it and were miserable. We find what we’re looking for.”

Some people look around and see that attention is being paid to the huge, economic differences among American citizens. Some few are incredibly wealthy, not through hard work and living right, but through inheritance and luck. But these lucky few don’t think they should have to pay taxes, or pay a living wage to full-time workers. Their luck entitles them to squeeze every last drop of profit from people and the environment, with no regard at all for anyone else’s quality of life. They very much tend to be white, through some incredible coincidence. In fact, health and life expectancy can be predicted with some accuracy from your zip code.

So some people might find goodness in seeing millions of young people awake to these problems, and ready to support leaders with ideas to solve them. Often we find what we’re looking for, as you correctly observe.

Why are we on the brink of a civil ar?
Because the puppet masters have finally found really stupid useful idiots.
One Chinese communist leader, back in 1965 when the war in Vietnam was raging said, “We will fight to the last Vietnamese any U.S. Attempt for Peace.”
The Vietnamese commies were that willing to be the Chinese commies’ useful idiots.
Today we have actors willing to put off projects, even cancel their parts in them for being too “racist, ageist, sexist, etc’ist.”
How willing will Hollywood money men be to hire them later after costing them millions and putting hundreds of others out of jobs for their tantrums?
Today we have basketball and football players in mansions who virtue signal by cancelling games, even playoff games.
Will they have contracts renewed after they put hundreds of regular folk out of work at arenas and stadiums?
Maybe, probably not.
And even regular folk who came out for the peaceful protests but left before the nightly riots/arsons/lootings?
They are complaining loudly about the lack of police protection, about the death of local business, about the drive-by shootings in their neighborhoods.
Is able, they are moving away from Dem controlled, weak-on-crime cities and states.
Who can blame them?
The fires took the riots off the lede on the news, so the rioters suddenly quit.
Orders from the puppet masters.
They’ll be back.
Their puppet masters don’t give a damn if they live or die.

Good post, Vince

@Cowalker: Some few are incredibly wealthy, not through hard work and living right, but through inheritance and luck.

Every system has rich and poor…This system, more than any on earth or in history allows a person to decide their success. The truth is, it doesn’t matter that Jeff Bezos has more money than every other person on the planet. What matters is the quality of life of individuals. We have more prosperity, have created more prosperity than any system in human history. If people focused less on the difference between their bank accounts and the people on the Forbes 400 and more on the lives they live, they might just understand how fortunate most of us are. Elevators, mobile phones, internet, TV, video games, cars, safe working environments, plentiful food and countless other things that most Americans share… Most Americans live lives that 99% of people in history would envy and for which millions of people risk their lives to get each year.

Perspective and gratitude are the things that are missing from the lives of those woke young people you’re so worried about. If they had a bit more of both they might be focused on improving their lives and their communities.

@Nan G: Hopefully when all of those regular people move to red states they won’t bring their idiotic blue ideas with them!

@DrJohn: Thanks!

@Vince:

Hope? Sorry…NV, OR, WA, NM, CO have all turned BLUE due to Califorrnians moving to those states.

@vince:

I can decide my success while the Government can “decided” how much I give them?

I can decide my success even if I can’t defend myself if a mob appears at my house and I WILL BE PROSECUTED but the mob WON’T BE PROSECUTED?

Really?

“Tell young people their lives aren’t theirs, they can’t succeed and racism is everywhere, and they will believe it find it around every corner. Tell them racism and other evils exist, but they live in the land of opportunity and their success is in their hands, and they will succeed despite the roadblocks. Couple that half full on steroid’s mindset with America’s bounty and the opportunities are infinite.”

My life really isn’t mine if the Government can crush my civil rights and make me wear a mask.

It isn’t really my life if the Government can take any amount of my income THEY deem is proper.

It really isn’t my life I I have to ASK PERMISSION to purchase a firearm.

It really isn’t my life if a certain ethnic group looted my store in Santa Monica on May 31st in Santa Monica and those who stole thousands from me and my family and our government won’t prosecute them due to their color.

You people have you head so far up Trump’s ass it’s laughable.

My life really isn’t mine if the Government can crush my civil rights and make me wear a mask.
Talk to Gavin about that one.

It isn’t really my life if the Government can take any amount of my income THEY deem is proper.
Guess what, Sparky: free stuff isn’t free!

It really isn’t my life I I have to ASK PERMISSION to purchase a firearm.
Uhhh, Grand Democratic People’s Republic of California, dude.

It really isn’t my life if a certain ethnic group looted my store in Santa Monica on May 31st in Santa Monica and those who stole thousands from me and my family and our government won’t prosecute them due to their color.
You are actually blaming this on Trump? Srsly?

Aaaand…before you launch into how far up Trump’s ass my head is, consider that I voted Cruz in the ’16 California primary, then changed my affiliation to independent the next day. Unlike you, I recognize the reality that I live in a one-party state and my vote doesn’t count.

@Joachim: I’m not suggesting everything is good. It’s not. Too much government with too much power. Not enough individual freedom. Not enough consequences for actions. Those things need to be addressed… but if the Democrats win in November, you’ll find yourself faced with actual fascists seeking to take your guns, control or take your business, expropriate most of your income and brainwash your kids… At least today there is a country to fight for. With Democrats you’ll find yourself in a literal civil war.

@Bill H: Well said. I voted for Cruz here too.

Was stationed aboard USS Coronado in Jan 75 as she was ending her visit to the shipyard in Chesapeake, Va. We got underway for a shakedown. We arrived at Gitmo on July 3,’75. Walking along the coral lined beach the water looked like dark, seaweed sewage.
The next day we went to the same beach location. The water was crystal clear and calm, like an aquarium. We joked the government brought it in for the holiday 4th. Spent that day snorkeling. That night a second degree sunburn blister made a visit to sickbay mandatory. After the usual admonition about damaging government property, the corpsman gave me some salve. Good times at Gitmo way back when.

Before Donald Trump announced his candidacy, I had read every one of his books. I voted for him in the primary, and again in the election. I knew exactly who I was voting for, and I’m satisfied. He’s lived up to my expectations.
“Trump, you magnificent bastard, I’ve read your books!”

@Joachim: Yeah, Trump is really terrible! I am sure your vote for Biden will really help equalize the Universe for you. (/s)

Why? Obama. Soros $$. Democrat lust for power. Weak minded useful idiots in the streets. Racist BIPOC morons who are lazy and demand reparations.

If you’d have asked me even six months ago what the chances of the United States being on the verge of a civil war I would have said probably under 1%. Today I think that number is much closer to 25% and maybe even higher.

That percent probably just increased overnight. The left wasted no time last night threatening riots and violence should there be an attempt to replace Ginsburg, like they haven’t been doing it already. They are very irrational and emotionally unstable people, making them dangerous, who don’t have a clue as to what civil wars look like. Those of us who have seen them overseas know what they look like and they are ugly. Very ugly. They should be careful what they wish for.

Just got back from a road trip taking my dad to our family reunion several states away.

Saw a billboard in central Montana with a picture of the fires and rioters in Portland.

Caption was “Don’t want Portland in Montana? Vote Republican!”

We were in ‘flyover’ country, but saw Trump signs everywhere and maybe only a half dozen Biden/Harris signs.

Funny how the folks who still haven’t accepted the last election – and are threatening even more riots if (my lips to God’s ears – when) Trump wins again are expressing such concern that *HE* won’t accept the results.

Project much?

I have wondered though, since federal law states you must be a US citizen to vote, if that creates a reason to question the results from states that have openly stated they issue driver’s licenses to non-citizens AND send ballots to everyone with a license…

Here’s how you get your civil war:

September 23, 2020 – Report: Trump Campaign Actively Discussing Radical Measures To Bypass Election Results

A jarring new report from The Atlantic claims that the Trump campaign is discussing potential strategies to circumvent the results of the 2020 election, should Joe Biden defeat Donald Trump, by first alleging the existence of rampant fraud and then appointing electors in battleground states where Republicans maintain a legislative majority, whom Trump would ask to bypass the state’s popular vote and instead to choose electors loyal to the GOP and the sitting president.

Following the casting of ballots and counting individual votes in a presidential election, the United States Constitution prescribes that the 538 electors who constitute the Electoral College cast their electoral votes, determining the winner.

Customarily, electors are chosen by popular vote, but nothing in the Constitution mandates that tradition, with Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 merely asserting that each state shall appoint electors “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.”

Since the late 1800s, every state in every presidential election has ceded the decision to its voters, but the Supreme Court affirmed in Bush v. Gore that a state “can take back the power to appoint electors.”

The Atlantic report claims that sources in the Republican Party at the local and national levels confirm “the Trump campaign is discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors” in red battleground states.

“The push to appoint electors would be framed in terms of protecting the people’s will,” an unnamed Trump-campaign legal adviser tells The Atlantic, adding, “The state legislatures will say, ‘All right, we’ve been given this constitutional power. We don’t think the results of our own state are accurate, so here’s our slate of electors that we think properly reflect the results of our state.’”

The chairman of the Pennsylvania Republican Party says, on the record, that he has discussed appointing loyal electors with the Trump campaign: “It is one of the available legal options set forth in the Constitution.”

KEY BACKGROUND:
A critical factor in the Trump campaign’s approach is delegitimizing mail-in and provisional ballots and any other votes that are not counted by the end of Election Day, Nov. 3rd, as those other votes are expected to heavily favor Biden. Earlier this summer, Trump tweeted, “MAIL-IN VOTING WILL LEAD TO MASSIVE FRAUD AND ABUSE. IT WILL ALSO LEAD TO THE END OF OUR GREAT REPUBLICAN PARTY. WE CAN NEVER LET THIS TRAGEDY BEFALL OUR NATION.” Later, in a Twitter post in July, Trump wrote, “With Universal Mail-In Voting, 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history.” However, due to the coronavirus pandemic, 2020 will feature more voting by mail than any other election in history. Earlier this week, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said he plans to spend the next six weeks urging the country to prepare for a “nightmare scenario” in which Trump declares himself the winner of the election and refuses to leave the White House. Thus, Sanders recommends states tally mail-in ballots as quickly as possible, urging them to begin processing and counting ballots before Election Day. When The Atlantic asked the Trump campaign to comment on the quotes in the article, and about possible plans to take the unprecedented step of appointing loyal electors, the president’s deputy national press secretary, Thea McDonald, did not address the questions directly. “It’s outrageous that President Trump and his team are being villainized for upholding the rule of law and transparently fighting for a free and fair election,” McDonald said in an email. “The mainstream media are giving the Democrats a free pass for their attempts to completely uproot the system and throw our election into chaos.”

CRUCIAL QUOTE:
When asked by Fox News’ Chris Wallace earlier this summer if he would accept the election results, President Trump said, “I have to see. Look, you — I have to see. No, I’m not going to just say yes. I’m not going to say no, and I didn’t last time, either.”

BIG NUMBER:
31: An investigation by Justin Levitt at Loyola Law School uncovered a total of 31 credible allegations of voter impersonation out of more than 1 billion votes cast in the United States from 2000 to 2014.

Forewarned is forearmed, so to speak. The fact that the public knows what he’s up to greatly decreases any odds that he might get away with such a move. If he tried, he’d have to worry that the military or the Secret Service would take him out. They, after all, have all taken oaths to protect the Constitution.

As things presently stand, all indications are that Trump will have a substantial lead at the end of election day, but will then lose the election as all mailed and absentee ballots are all tabulated. This should come as no surprise. It won’t be an indication of a rigged election, as Trump might try to claim. It’s the most likely scenario that would result in November from a free and honest election.

@Greg:

And you still trust what The Atlantic says? You must enjoy being lied to.

And you’re still running away from the Hunter Biden scandal. If it were a Trump kid, you would be all over it like stink on shite.

Anyone who has observed the b.s. with the post office and has paid attention to Trump’s horse manure calculated to throw election results into question knows damn well what he’s up to. The Atlantic article is nothing more than confirmation.

There’s nothing this man wouldn’t do to hang onto power.

@Greg:

The Atlantic article is nothing more than confirmation.

Yeah, just like their “anonymous” sources for the last scandal The Atlantic tried to push off on American voters. Why haven’t those sources come forward and back up The Atlantic’s claims?

BECAUSE THEY WERE BULLSHIT, THAT’S WHY.

And you’re still running away from the Hunter Biden scandal.

You’re such a coward, Comrade Greggie.

Listen to what this guy is saying. The video is from today, September 23, 2020. Do you not yet get it? It isn’t that hard to understand. He’s openly threatening to cancel our nation’s constitutional election process.

@Greg:

Listen to what this guy is saying. The video is from today, September 23, 2020. Do you not yet get it? It isn’t that hard to understand.

Why, it’s by liberal left wing hack, Morgan Chalfant, Juan William’s daughter in law. Why should I take to heart any left wing hack publicizes? Do you take seriously conservative reporters? No, you do not because they don’t say what you want to hear.

It isn’t a reporter saying these things. It’s Donald Trump himself. What he’s talking about is nothing less than the abolition of our constitutional government.

As dumb as it gets. Or dumber, actually.

Listen closely. What this man is talking about is the abolition of our constitutional government. That’s what the words coming out of his mouth mean. He’s talking about ignoring the result of our constitutional election process. He will be the one who will decide if the results are valid or not.

This is precisely the sort of thing that every American who has ever been in our nation’s military service has sworn an oath to prevent. Defending the Constitution comes ahead of obeying the orders of a Commander in Chief who has ceased to do so. Somebody needs to explain that to him.

@Greg:

You are losing your fuckin6 mind. I listened to the news conference live. The question was a setup gotcha and President Trump handled it perfectly.

Everyone knows at this point that President Trump will win the electoral college on Election Day by a massive majority. sundown joe is on the short road like recently passed Tom Seaver and Gale Sayers, both of dementia.

Why are 5 battleground states extending the days in some case by 8 days to count mail in ballots? What those states have done is unconstitutional.

Article II

Section 1

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be thesame throughout the United States.

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Greg

Listen closely. What this man is talking about is the abolition of our constitutional government. That’s what the words coming out of his mouth mean. He’s talking about ignoring the result of our constitutional election process. He will be the one who will decide if the results are valid or not.

This is precisely the sort of thing that every American who has ever been in our nation’s military service has sworn an oath to prevent. Defending the Constitution comes ahead of obeying the orders of a Commander in Chief who has ceased to do so. Somebody needs to explain that to him.

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@July 4th American, #29:

You are losing your fuckin6 mind. I listened to the news conference live. The question was a setup gotcha and President Trump handled it perfectly.

Both the question and the answer were perfectly clear. The answer meant exactly what Trump said.

Everyone knows at this point that President Trump will win the electoral college on Election Day by a massive majority. sundown joe is on the short road like recently passed Tom Seaver and Gale Sayers, both of dementia.

NO. Everyone DOES NOT know that. All indications are that Trump WILL NOT win the popular election, and that the loss will be by a far greater margin than his popular election loss in 2016. The disparity between the popular vote and the electoral college vote was an unlikely event in 2016, and will be even more so this time around. Trump’s strategists know that as well as anybody. That’s why he’s saying what he’s saying and behaving as he is. He doesn’t like the way the game of chess is going and is thinking about kicking the board over.

The ballots ARE NOT “a disaster”. There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that there’s a damn thing wrong with the absentee or mail-in ballot processes—unless you want to count DeJoy’s efforts to sabotage post office sorting and delivery, suddenly put into place a couple of months ahead of the election. In fact, mail-in ballots—which have always comprised a majority of absentee ballots—are possibly even more secure, given that they’re physical documents, crosschecked upon receipt, and traceable, unlike votes cast on potentially vulnerable electronic voting machines.

Why are 5 battleground states extending the days in some case by 8 days to count mail in ballots?

Because the proportion of people voting by mail has been increasing with every passing election, and it’s expected that there will be an enormous jump this November owing to COVID-19 concerns.

Battleground states aren’t the only states that are trying to prepare for this surge in paper ballots. They’re just the ones that the Trump organization takes a particular interest in, knowing that far more Democratic voters than Trump supporters will be casting their ballots that way.

It’s predicted that Trump will have an election night lead that will evaporate as the paper ballots are checked and tallied. Trump’s plan seems to be to claim victory based on his predictable early lead, and then assert that the subsequent shift is a result of voter fraud. He’s setting the stage for that, right before our eyes, and he has just told us why. He may not accept the results of the election. He’ll have to see.

@July 4th American:

Where is greg posting from?

Indiana. Early this morning, using a Chromebook. At the moment, using a desktop workstation.

Popular vote count does not decide the election. It is the electoral vote dummy

@July 4th American, #32:

Popular vote count does not decide the election. It is the electoral vote dummy

Did you miss the rest of the paragraph?

…The disparity between the popular vote and the electoral college vote was an unlikely event in 2016, and will be even more so this time around. Trump’s strategists know that as well as anybody…

Mail in ballots…what a disaster! Everybody knows that! Unless Trump’s talking about states where he thinks they’ll be to his advantage, of course, then the message flip-flops. Trump this morning, on Twitter:

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

Vote-by-mail ballots in my home state of FLORIDA begin going out TODAY! Make sure to request yours, fill it out & send it in. Request yours today…

11:44 AM · Sep 24, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

@Greg:

Make sure to request yours, fill it out & send it in. Request yours today…

Apparently your cognitive disorder prohibits you from understanding requesting an absentee ballot via an approved form that you must sign and having millions of ballots just sent out to a list of voters on voter rolls that have not been purged in 20 years.

But hey, since you’re so intent on showing what an idiot you are, don’t let me stop you.

@Greg: Mail in and absentee are 2 different animals, an absentee vote is requested by the voter, sending every registered voter a ballot with uncleaned voter registries is asking for fraud. You make such ignorant statements intentionally twisting the POTUS statements.
Ballots in Pennsylvania Were Found in the Trash. They Were All Votes for Trump. So it begins, trashing the voice of military voters.
Your little brown shirts didnt like the decision of the Grand Jury in KY. 2 more police shot. The hunting of our fellow citizens will sink your party. Larynzo Johnson, should if found guilty, get a good long stretch in Prison.

@retire05, #34:

Apparently your cognitive disorder prohibits you from understanding requesting an absentee ballot via an approved form that you must sign and having millions of ballots just sent out to a list of voters on voter rolls that have not been purged in 20 years.

Why don’t you try instead sent out to the addresses of properly registered voters who voted in recent elections? Does that alternate possibility not fit your argument so well?

@kitt, #35:

Mail in and absentee are 2 different animals, an absentee vote is requested by the voter, sending every registered voter a ballot with uncleaned voter registries is asking for fraud.

You’re making a distinction that Donald Trump does not when he starts ranting about ballots being “a disaster”. Most absentee ballots are mailed ballots.

46 states provide voters with an ability to track their ballots after mailing them via a statewide database—which means that the submission of each ballot can also be backward tracked and attributed to a specific individual voter. The fact that they go out and then come back by mail doesn’t somehow neutralize safeguards on the process. The only potentially significant problem would be something impairing the timeliness of mail processing, and that’s the very thing DeJoy was screwing around with.

This is the same sort of nonsense as the GOP’s efforts to conflate registration drives with voter fraud. The fact that Donald Duck has submitted a bogus registration form doesn’t mean that the entire cast of Disney cartoon characters can get away with voting in a presidential election. Counterfeited ballet forms wouldn’t somehow be magically exempted from state verification processes.

Do you not realize that Donald Trump has worked you around to the point where you’re ready to rationalize and defend his refusal to accept the results of a presidential election? That’s precisely what he accused Democrats of doing, in response to investigations intended to protect us from irregularities.

How were you transformed from “defenders of the Constitution” into the followers of an aspiring authoritarian who has just openly stated that he might decide to throw its most important democratic mechanism straight out the window?

@Greg: You are wrong again you listen to the ignoramus talking heads, Biden has 600 to 700 lawyers sueing to change state rules. Counting a vote that arrives 7 days past the close of the polls less than 2 months out of an election. They made States wait a full year out for voter ID laws, as should be these changes to the security provisions.
Its the same moronic bullshit they pull time after time, they know nothing of voters or what they think and believe. They live in a TDS bubble as do you.
We cant get an absentee ballot without a jpeg of our ID attached. That is far different than sending 350K ballots out to dead people in 42 states With 350,000 dead registered voters across 42 states — including three critical swing states — to one state allowing ballots to be counted up to nine days after election day.
https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/election-watchdog-finds-350000-dead-registrants-on-voter-rolls-in-42-states/
Just five states—New York, Texas, Michigan, Florida, and California—accounted for 51 percent of the total number of deceased individuals on voter rolls, according to the group.
The voter rolls are not clean by any stretch.
Seems it is your talking heads that are confused, not Republican voters.

@Greg:

Why don’t you try instead sent out to the addresses of properly registered voters who voted in recent elections? Does that alternate possibility not fit your argument so well?

No, dipshit, it doesn’t. No one should be sent an unrequested ballot. You seem to fail to understand that while I have a Constitutional right to vote if I meet the criteria, I also have a Constitutional right to NOT vote. If a person wants to vote by mail, they have the responsibility to request that ballot and no city, county or state should be sending ballots out to everyone who is listed on the voter rolls.

The only potentially significant problem would be something impairing the timeliness of mail processing, and that’s the very thing DeJoy was screwing around with.

I know you want to blame DeJoy for everything including dandruff, but how do you explain the fiasco that was the New Jersey primary in May when DeJoy had been on the job less than two weeks? Thousands of VBM ballots were thrown out.

Do you even know what gets your voter registration suspended in your county? I doubt it.

Do you not realize that Donald Trump has worked you around to the point where you’re apparently ready to rationalize and defend his refusal to accept the results of a U.S. presidential election? That’s precisely what he accused Democrats of doing, in response to investigations intended to protect us from irregularities.

Stealing elections is nothing new for Democrats; see Nixon vs. Kennedy. For 60 years Democrats have been trying to steal elections. Another example; Box 13.
So don’t preach to me about vote theft when Democrats have been doing it for almost 70 years.

@kitt:

I’m listening to what Donald Trump is saying. I’m listening closely to the question, and I’m listening closely to his answer.

Why aren’t you?

@Greg:

If that is another one of your “donate to us via ActBlue” videos, the 3 brothers who started that YouTube channel admits to “editing” the videos. And for that they have raked in over $300,000.00 from idiots like you.

Or is it another of your alphabet news videos?

No wonder you’re an idiot. You’ve fried your brain watching YouTube.

@retire05, #40:

No one should be sent an unrequested ballot.

Why not? Because Donald Trump says so? He has NO constitutional authority to dictate voting rules or procedures. That is specifically the business of the states. It only becomes federal business when and to the extent that state level authorities abuse that power to deny citizens their right to vote in violation of federal law, or attempt to throw obstacles in the way of freely exercising it.

Donald Trump’s pronouncements on the matter don’t mean squat. It’s the Constitution that rules in this matter, not him.

@Greg:

Why not?

For the same reason most states don’t issue voter registration cards unless the voter requests one even with the Clinton’s election theft policy of the Motor Voter Act.

Because Donald Trump says so? He has NO constitutional authority to dictate voting rules or procedures. That is specifically the business of the states.

I guarantee you are clueless to your state’s voter laws. You’re clueless about most things except Trump hatred.

You still haven’t dealt with the fact that your cult leader just publicly stated in no uncertain terms he might ignore the results of a presidential election. He’ll have to see. It all depends. It all depend on whether he wins or not, right?

No one can accept a statement like that and expect anyone but another like-thinking idiot to believe they support the United States Constitution.

@Greg:

Did Al Gore accept the results of the election when he ran against George W. Bush? No, he did not and in fact, it was Gore who sued in the Florida courts. So your whining about something Trump said that you choose to misconstrue is laughable.

Besides, the Democrats are now changing their tune and telling people to “go vote, and go vote early” as IN PERSON VOTING.

https://www.axios.com/democrats-mail-voting-pivot-838522b7-8dac-42b4-a566-1ba93818654d.html?utm_campaign=organic&utm_medium=socialshare&utm_source=twitter

And didn’t Joe Biden just vote in person? Why, yes, he did.

Did Al Gore accept the results of the election when he ran against George W. Bush?

Neither George W Bush nor Al Gore was an incumbent president in a position to use his power of office to override the result of an election that will determine whether or not he remains there.

Neither Bush nor Gore was using the presidential bully pulpit to call the election process itself into question before the fact, and suggest he might decide not to step down if he disagrees with the result.

Besides, the Democrats are now changing their tune and telling people to “go vote, and go vote early” as IN PERSON VOTING.

They’re not “changing their tune”. They’ve only advocated that voters should have the option to vote by the means that best suits their individual needs. I intend to vote early at my polling place, to make damn sure my vote against Trump gets counted. Thanks to the actions of Trump’s postal toady DeJoy, I have concerns about the mail that I wouldn’t have otherwise had.

@Greg:

Oh, I get it. You have to add a caveat to your bullshit.

It doesn’t matter if Bush was an incumbent or not. The fact remains that Al Gore refused to accept the results of an election and Florida gave us hanging chads, dimpled chads and pregnant chads and Gore (Democrat) and the Democrats put the entire nation on edge.

Has screeching Hillary ever accepted the 2016 election? Or Stacy Adams? NO.
Your Commiecrats don’t care about the nation. They care about POWER.

But the tide is turning and now Democrats are telling people to “Go Vote in Person”. So all your whining is for naught, Comrade Greggie. And Biden is still hiding in his basement.

@Greg: Easy there triggered, your paranoia is getting the best of you, Hillary has yet to accept the loss of 2016, no Democrat in 36 years has conceded the night of the election results. Not fuggin one. Now Don gets to wait 9 daysand you sweat that.
@retire05: They are now telling their minions to vote in person because they have so poorly educated the they cant send in a vote properly, forget to sign its trashed ect.

@Greg:

I intend to vote early at my polling place, to make damn sure my vote against Trump gets counted.

Good doggie. That’s exactly what the Dems are telling you to to. Nice to know that you will finally exit your hobbit hole. Guess you have to vote for Bargain Basement Joe. I know you don’t want anyone in the Oval Office that is smarter than you.

Thanks to the actions of Trump’s postal toady DeJoy, I have concerns about the mail that I wouldn’t have otherwise had.

And DeJoy had what to do with the fiasco that was New Jersey?

You’re so full of cr@p, Comrade Greggie.