“There must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or an impeachment supported by one of our major political parties and opposed by another.”
– Jerry Nadler.
“Impeachment is a very serious matter. If it happens it has to be a bipartisan initiative.”
– Nancy Pelosi
“In the absence of very graphic evidence, it would be difficult to get the support in the Senate needed to make an impeachment successful. Again, my feeling is let’s see what Bob Mueller produces. But the evidence would have to be pretty overwhelming.”
– Adam Schiff
If you ever needed proof that democrats were lying hypocritical dogs, there it is.
democrats have voted to send two whiny, small, narrow articles of impeachment to the full House for a vote. It’s the lamest case in the history of the US:
So that’s it? That’s all there is? After all the talk of obstruction of justice, collusion with Russia, bribery, extortion, profiting from the Presidency, and more, House Democrats have reduced their articles of impeachment against President Trump to two: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. Honey, we shrunk the impeachment.
Democrats on the Judiciary Committee will vote as early as Thursday on the text of the two articles they unveiled Tuesday, and then they will rush it to the floor next week. It’s enough to suspect that Democrats understand they are offering the weakest case for impeachment since Andrew Johnson, that the public isn’t convinced, and so they simply want to get it over with.
There was not a single fact witness in the last two days. in fact, there was’t a single witness. It was, Louie Gohmert said, a “kangaroo court.”
“America needs to hear from the witnesses. And we didn’t get to hear from them here. This was a kangaroo court.”
It’s so lame that democrats want to impeach Trump for being too tall.
JUST IN: Democrats want to impeach the President for [checks notes] being too tall. pic.twitter.com/0QNAf6iUBp
— The White House 45 Archived (@WhiteHouse45) December 12, 2019
It’s a lot more than that. It’s gone from a fishing expedition that came up empty to a full blown coup.
A full array of government resources were used in attempt to frame the President.
3. Regarding the FBI’s actions in surveilling Trump campaign associates, it was a “travesty” and there were “many abuses.”
4. From “day one,” the FBI investigation generated exculpatory information (tending to point to the targets’ innocence) and nothing that corroborated Russia collusion.
5. It’s a “big deal” to use U.S. law enforcement and intelligence resources to investigate the opposing political party, and I cannot think of another recent instance in which this happened.
6. Evidence to start the FBI’s investigation into Trump associates was “flimsy” from the start and based on the idea that Trump aide George Papadopoulos expressed he may have had pre-knowledge of a Democrat National Committee computer hack. However, it was actually just an offhand barroom comment by a young campaign aide described merely as a “suggestion of a suggestion, a vague allusion” to the fact that the Russians may have something they can dump. But by that time, May 2016, there was already rampant speculation online and in political circles that the Russians had hacked Hillary Clinton’s emails in 2014 and that they might surface. So the idea that Papadopoulos’s comment showed pre-knowledge of the Democratic National Committee hack and dump “is a big stretch.”
The rest of the lists is at the link. Fortunately, it failed.
democrats and their henchmen in the left wing media have been hammering Trump and the GOP with lies non-stop for three years. The IG report has handed them their heads and shoved their egos up their backsides.
Thus the need to impeach, despite an absence of evidence or facts. Still, it gets worse. democrats mean to nullify the next election. They mean to take the election away from the voters.
Nadler: “We cannot rely on an election to solve our problems, when the president threatens the very integrity of that election.”
Pelosi: “The weak response to these hearings has been, ‘Let the election decide.’ That dangerous position only adds to the urgency of our action, because POTUS is jeopardizing the integrity of the 2020 elections.”
They are telling the American people that they do not trust them. They know Trump cannot be beaten fairly and have resorted to this unconstitutional chicanery in an effort to smear Trump sufficiently that America won’t reelect him.
Not. Gonna. Work.
By the way, there is no Constitutional allowance for removing a President for a crime not yet committed.
democrat desperation grows by the second. Make no mistake. This is now a coup. democrats are committed to preventing America from having its rightful and Constitutional voice in the next election.
That’s real obstruction. That’s real abuse of power. They must not succeed.
It’s not Trump assaulting the Constitution. It’s the democrat party.
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Except for liberals being foolish.
@Greg: Greggie, you can never address the issues. You always must confuse the issues by changing the subject. The abortion issue was based upon a privacy right? Where is that in the Constitution?
@Randy: The abortion issue must remain totally undefined unregulated fluid like their twisted version of the constitution.
They cant help but push these things too far, well beyond sanity.
@Randy, #51:
One of the central issues is republican hypocrisy. You claim democrats are conducting a coup, when they’re actually addressing Trump’s obvious presidential misconduct by way of the one specific remedy the constitution provides. You claim to support the Constitution, while congressional republicans openly announce they’re coordinating their part in that fully constitutional process with the White House Counsel, will comply fully with White House orders, and are not even trying to pretend to be fair jurors. You claim to support the law while enabling a president to rise above its reach, and applauding as he does so.
The common issue in all of this is the abandonment of constitutional principles. That’s necessary because remaining true to them hasn’t produce the results Trump’s followers want. In Donald Trump they think they’ve found a vehicle for getting where they want to go. They’ve been willing to overlook a helluva lot to make use of it. Unfortunately, the principles they pretend to care about will get crushed to dust in the process, and much that they think is being accomplished isn’t real.
@Greg: You silly blind mind controlled twit.
I watched those kangaroo hearings marathons of one way mindless railroading.
Just as the Democrats sitting on the thrones you gave them you had your mind set before any of the non-witnesses testified. Like the FISA issue not done by any rules but their own.
You are so stupid as to think a Supreme Court Justice is going to let either side screw with the process? Ignorant sky screamer.
We havent seen the House vote ….yet and you convict people on thought crimes.
You weigh what others may do on your own black hearts scale.
Yes we want the filthy hovel you call a government reformed.
@Greg:
Pivoting to your beloved abortion to admit defeat? Another thing the police state does is control population and killing unwanted babies is one aspect of it. However, as to the topic at hand, the Democrats attempt at a coup (still ongoing, with impeachment) is clear and incontrovertible.
I noticed in #53, you stated:
Without any proof, you are just mouth-farting. Go to NYT and comment there; you’ll find a receptive audience of fellow crybabies.
@kitt, #54:
It was a hearing. No one was being railroaded.
Sworn testimony was being taken. Both republicans and democrats were given abundant opportunity to question each witness. If you think Trump’s side wasn’t properly represented, consider the fact that he refused to have counsel attend and participate, blocked all evidence it was within his power to lock down, and ordered 13 people with direct, insider knowledge of the Ukraine situation to unlawfully defy congressional subpoenas. They didn’t even bother to show up and decline to answer whenever so advised by White House Counsel based on claims of executive privilege. Instead, Trump just gave Congress and the constitutional process the finger.
Want to talk about “railroading”? That’s what republicans have already openly announced they’re going to do in the Senate trial. They’re going to take instructions directly from the White House Counsel and disregard their sworn duty to hear both sides of the case as fair members of the Senate jury. We have those admissions from their own lips.
If there’s no compelling evidence of wrongdoing, why are they announcing they’re doing that? If there’s no compelling evidence, a fair hearing in the Senate followed by careful deliberation and an honest vote shouldn’t be such a serious threat. That is the only legitimate process, whether or not you agree that it should have been undertaken to begin with. They shouldn’t need to break their oaths of office and pervert the process at the command of the man in the White House.
I know what they fear. They fear that a critical number of republicans who have been terrified into paying Trump lip service may suddenly see their opportunity to take the man down, and decide to put truth, The Republican Party, and their country before The Party of Trump. McConnell can’t allow that. But the things he has openly said might actually be making it more likely.
@Greg: What ever. keep repeating the lines it isnt helping.
I trust the judgement of my Senator.
@Greg: You continue to broadcast your stupidity. You have no idea what the Constitution says. You have no idea how the Supreme court has decided on past issues. The legislative branch is one of the three equal branches of our government with specific responsibilities given to each by the constitution. You degrade Trump because he is a business man even though he has world wide experiences and has been very successful. On the other hand, those dems you support have never had a job that was not with the government, yet you think they know more. Watch your dems get their faces covered in their own excrement as their coup effort unfolds over the next 18 months.
@Greg:
It was a joke and justice was railroaded right out of the chambers.
Now, WHAT has Giuliani been up to in Ukraine?
Giuliani has documents showing Ukrainian money laundering and Biden corruption
Kind of the companion to the report of Hillary forgetting to mention that $1 million birthday present Qatar gave Bubba while Hillary was Secretary of State. She was probably going to report it, but accidentally deleted it.
@kitt:
But, that’s how propaganda works. The Big Lie has to be repeated often and loudly.
@Greg:
Trump sought remedy from the Supreme Court and he will get a ruling, which blows out one of the asinine articles.
@Randy:
You never deal with things people you disagree with say. You always attack the person saying them. Donald Trump does the same. It’s a transparent means of avoiding that for which he has no acceptable explanation—which is a lot.
@Greg: Go ask big Joe for an explanation, you ready to do pushups? Or was it Fudgsicles, Eskimo pies, what would you do for a Klondike bar?
Dec 15, 2019 – President Trump touts poll numbers as ‘through the roof’ against impeachment — Fox News says otherwise
@Greg: emerson poll:
In October, 48 percent of Independent’s supported impeaching Trump, with 39 percent in opposition. Now, the tides have turned. 49 percent of Independents oppose impeachment, while only 34 percent support it. That’s a 15-point margin in opposition of impeachment among Independent voters.
Fox is only 1 poll, Emerson is only one poll.
Perhaps some favor impeachment because they think it will get the Dems voted out of the congress. Who knows, nobody knows.
IN LA? I thought republicans were extinct due to global warming in California https://twitter.com/metzsam/status/1206013571903057920/video/1
@kitt: Democrats better hurry and have the vote before more of their members who happen to have souls decide to leave.
@Greg: I do not deal with ignoramuses. You have very scanty knowledge of how government is supposed to work IAW the Constitution. You have an inability to add up 1+1 to equal 2, let alone trying to add 2+2. You can not carry a conversation from the beginning to the end with out changing the subject because you took the wrong position. Criticism should require one to improve their performance, but you greggie will never learn. That is one of the symptoms of LSD use.
Pelosi guilty of quid pro quo, bribing members to vote for her impeachment farce.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/15/buying-impeachment-nancy-pelosi-aligned-pac-spends-millions-help-swing-district-democrats/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29
@Randy, #66:
You’re doing it again.
@Deplorable Me: Same thing was done with AHCA and the Louisiana purchase, buying and bribing, threats, promises of committee chairs its just how things are done, both sides of the uniparty. Its actually her job to bring something to vote or not to for political purposes unless they simply cant get the votes, they sat on the new Nafta for a year. It is NEVER whats good for the country or voters ever.
Our patent office needs reform,
During the energy crises ” 1971 list indicates that patents for solar photovoltaic generators were subject to review and possible restriction IF THE PHOTOVOLTAICS WERE MORE THAN 20% EFFFICIENT. Energy conversion systems were likewise subject to review and possible restriction IF THEY OFFERED CONVERSION EFFICIENCIES ‘IN EXCESS OF 70-80%’.”
I guess the politicians didnt want to drain the sun.
@Randy, Careful trigger warning Greg is gonna cry.
@Greg: #impeachmentisacoup
@Greg: you’re the only person posting here who has successfully avoided falling victim to Trump’s gaslighting. Though I commend you for offering facts to the surprisingly uneducated “DrJohn” etc., please join me in never returning to this wall of fiction. My brain and yours deserve better.
@EmmaS.: Truly, if you are going to traffic in fiction, you would be happier on a site that encourages that; a LIBERAL site. The Democrats in Congress have no need or respect for facts and have PROVEN that. People who support that can’t make a compelling case here, of all places. We demand FACTS for you to justify removing a duly elected President, whomever he/she may be.
The transcript clearly shows the Democrat case to be hollow. There IS no question about it. So, either traffic in facts or, as you suggest, leave.
@Deplorable Me: Dont discourage Emma she is here to find someone to wear a matching vagina costume and carry her signs. Is kinda romantic, a Hallmark Christmas moment. Gawd I hope he isnt allergic to cats.
@kitt: I just cannot abide someone falsely accusing Greg of presenting facts.
@Greg: If you were smarter, you would recognize that I explain why your posts are real garbage. You have no capability of the underlying laws that dictate the process. But, you are to ignorant to understand that!
@Deplorable Me: Greg being a VN vet he is too old to breed it would be a safe union, er I mean so romantic. They could have intimate times nearly alone going to Democrat political rallies.
@EmmaS.: Emma, Greg works for a Leftist information mill, and is not a free-thinking citizen like yourself.
I’d invite you to share your views and have good conversation with us.
Understand many of us feel the Dems have been gaslighting us for over 12 years, and the current push back by Trump is just the consequence, so accusing Trump of gaslighting is rich.
Understand the Dems/Left have majority ownership of entertainment, media, and educational institutions. Those three constitute a powerful propaganda machine and a base to conduct psy-warefare.
Trump’s success was caused by liberal gaslighting, to be fair.
#impeachmentisacoup
@Nathan Blue: You are so gracious Blue. I have much less tolerance for the ignorant.
Hmmmmm
Dem’s impeachment for innocent conduct is intended to obstruct the below investigations of Obama-era corruption:
– Billions of laundered $
– Billions, mostly US $, widely misused
– Extortion
– Bribery
– DNC collusion w/ Ukraine to destroy candidate Trump
Much more to come.
— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) December 15, 2019
Like this shit began with Obama admin, they were just sloppy.
The FBI Wants You to Believe They Are Just Morons
Senator Chuck Schumer wants the following four witnesses to be subpoenaed to testify at the Senate impeachment trial, as all four previously defied lawful congressional subpoenas, and all four have direct, first-hand knowledge that would settle central questions concerning the White House’s intentions toward Ukraine.
They are: Mick Mulvaney, acting White House chief of staff; John Bolton, former national security adviser; Michael Duffey, associate director for national security, Office of Management and Budget; and Robert Blair, senior adviser to Mulvaney.
Throughout this process, republicans have repeatedly asserted that no one having direct, first-hand knowledge of the situation has testified. This can now be easily remedied. Unless it is, republicans will be turning the trial into a cover-up.
You really do want to know the truth, don’t you?
Giuliani’s name is notable by its absence, but maybe not surprising. He’s going to be nailed by a federal prosecutor in criminal court.
@Greg: If Pelosi and company had gone through proper impeachment procedures, they could have called these people, but they didn’t. The left never had any intention of having the truth out in public. It would have showed that the whole motivation was pure hate. Now, the Dems have conducted a fraudulent inquiry that has bypassed approved protocol and constitutional procedures and they have ended up with nothing. If the truth actually came out, all of those Dems who leaked classified documents to the media will be identified. The truth would create so much animosity that the liberals created a two tier legal system that public beheadings may be demanded by US Citizens. The Senate needs to nip this in the bud to maintain at lease some civility. Of course, Greggie, you will not understand this.
@Randy, #81:
They DID go through the proper impeachment procedures, step-by-step, and will continue to do so through the taking of a final vote. As part of that procedure, all of these people—Guiliani included—were subpoenaed to give testimony. Donald Trump’s counsel was also invited to attend and participate in the House Judicial Committee hearings. They all refused, as republicans simultaneously asserted the process was illegitimate because no one with first hand knowledge was testifying and the White House wasn’t being allowed to defend itself.
They can all now have their say at the Senate trial, assuming they actually want to do so. Somehow I suspect that isn’t what the White House Counsel has in mind, and Mitch McConnell has openly acknowledged that he is only there to do the White House’s bidding. They’re likely going to attempt to use the impeachment trial as a vehicle for presentation of the conspiracy theory Giuliani has been busily packaging, which will stink like a three-day-dead fish.
@Greg:
We will take your suggestions under advisement.
The prosecution will be provided a short list of allowable questions, thanks for playing.
@Greg: Pelosi did not have the house vote for impeachment. Because of that, they did not have Constitutional approval to require executive branch personnel to testify before their committee. They also did not allow rebuttal witnesses that could have clarified issues. Their witnesses committed perjury. (Former Ukraine Ambassador) They screwed up. Now, they must live with it. Watch the Supreme Court rulings. Then again, the law and proper procedures do not fit with your “any means to an end” philosophy of government procedure.
@kitt: Well, maybe when Obama, Biden, Rice and the other government employees of that scandal free 8 years the real truth will be known to everyone. I do not think that my children would live long enough for a liberal president to ever get elected again.
@kitt, #83:
And the defense will take the form of a grandiose presentation of Giuliani’s Joe Biden conspiracy package? If so, the smell of GOP corruption will carry all the way from the floor of the Senate to the California coast. Republicans would be treading on very dangerous ground, because a majority of voters have working noses. Guiliani may be very close to criminal indictment. It wouldn’t end with a rigged Senate trial.
This could be the moment when honorable and patriotic republicans may decide it’s time to make a choice. I know there are still at least 20 of them in the Senate.
@Greg: We ave a congress woman sitting on the judiciary committee whos husband made 700K in 2 years from a Ukrainian oligarch guess how the Democrat voted, this is about keeping their corruption hidden not about impeachment. The documents will point the way the down the money trail and even if proven by non Ukrainian documents you will still walk around with eyes wide shut. It will take a bit to find 5 billion I dont think it is strictly partisan.
ING is an interesting company a regular “One Hour Martinizing, tons of others, drugs and US Aid quite a mix.”
@Greg: Schumer is in no position to demand ANYTHING. How about he gets the same consideration afforded Republicans in the House? Would you have a problem with McConnell deciding which witnesses Democrats can call and making sure Republicans get three times the witnesses Democrats do, or do you think that now everything should be totally square and even?
Here’s an idea… why don’t you, Schumer and the rest of the Democrats just SHOVE IT and abide by the rules Democrats made Republicans endure in the House?
By then, the “witnesses” had testified and the articles were written up. There was no point for Trump to send people to listen to their “experts” (like Putin’s buddy Karlan) talk about IF Trump had committed a crime he should be impeached; only he hasn’t.
The White House “bidding” is to have a trail, call witnesses, present evidence and find Trump innocent.
Presenting the facts of the Biden extortion scheme and the extent of corruption surrounding Joe, Hunter and Burisma is the absolute key to disputing the Democrat’s weak case. For, proving there was a requisite for Ukraine completing the investigation Biden had killed makes Trump asking Zelensky to root out the corruption that has been siphoning off Ukrainian and US aid money. It is hardly a wonder why Schiff refused to hear any evidence on that subject.
@Randy: Yeah, well that was then, this is now. No matter who holds the majority, Democrats think they deserve to be in charge and make all the rules. And, no doubt, the one-sided, biased, predetermined outcome rules of the Democrat House won’t satisfy Schumer. He wants FAIRNESS.
@kitt: Democrats accept the corruption of their own; they view it as getting their loot before anyone else can get it.
@kitt, #87:
We’ve got a (supposed) billionaire president who won’t disclose anything about where money flowing into the family treasure chest is coming from. Get back to me with your outrage over somebody’s husband’s $350K per year income as an attorney when you acknowledge Trump’s far bigger and more worrying question mark.
The people attacking Rep. Mucarsel-Powell don’t seem to be saying which two years her husband provided legal services for which he was compensated, nor do they bother to mention what, if anything, about the services or compensation was improper or excessive. That’s all left to the imagination. They do acknowledge their information is from public records, which doesn’t exactly suggest shadowy nefarious activities.
@Deplorable Me, #88:
Evidently you’re have some trouble understanding McConnell’s very direct, English language statement. McConnell said a helluva lot more than what you suggest:
That is, “I’m going to rig the trial, as directed.”
Then we’ve got Lindsey Graham:
Seldom do republicans speak so honestly.
@Deplorable Me: Wont matter $ome will end up in some very expensive Obama connected fixer attorneys bank account for their defense, may be 2 years in a minimum security spa. Then it will all be forgotten as they sit sipping mimosas on the yacht living on the Caymen account.
They only had to blow a couple of people up to hush up the Panama papers scandal.
@Greg:
He doesn’t have to. It isn’t required by law. He filed all the requisite disclosure forms. So, live with it and LIKE it.
It’s not the money; it’s the Ukraine connection. Remember, not very long ago, when that was BAD? Why does a Ukrainian oligarch call this guy to get him off for murder? And why is a committee member with Ukrainian connections not recusing herself?
Oh… because rules are for everyone else. Right?
And how has the President said he wanted it to be handled? Look it up and get back with me, though I have already told you. Your stupidity is wearing thin on me, Greg. You make every effort to pretend no one else pays any attention to anything but the same leftist propaganda you are addicted to.
Get what Trump says HE wants out of this Senate hearing and bring it back HERE. Then, admit you are ignorant and wrong.
Meanwhile, would you have any problem with Democrats having the same rights in the Senate as Republicans had in the House? That’s a question… ANSWER IT.
And that is absolutely 100% true.
@Deplorable Me: Now be careful. greggie’s stupidity is his only asset.
@Deplorable Me, #92:
The House conducted an investigation and hearing for the purpose of determining if charges should be filed. This is the equivalent of a Grand Jury Hearing. At a Grand Jury Hearing, there is no judge. The proceedings are normally conducted by a prosecutor. Neither a defendant nor a defense attorney is present, and have no legal right to be present. The jury decides only if there is sufficient evidence to conduct a trial.
The Senate will conduct a trial. There is a prosecuting attorney and a defense attorney. At a trial, evidence and testimony are presented to a jury, the members of which are supposed to hear it in a fair and unbiased manner. Once that is done, they render a verdict.
The point being, the House and the Senate are responsible for two entirely different parts of the process. They’re not supposed to be conducted in an identical manner with identical protocol. Your question implies that they are, which is false. If you want a valid answer, ask a valid question.
In fact, Trump could have had counsel present and participating in the House hearing, but chose not to. In fact, 13 witnesses with direct inside knowledge of the situation could have appeared who would have been able to testify as to what actually happened; if Trump is telling the truth, they could have supported his claims. Instead, he ordered them to defy congressional subpoenas. Beyond that, there is no right to derail an investigation or hearing, which is what republicans wanted to accomplish. Their behavior was deplorable.
@Greg: So, you wouldn’t want the Democrats in the Senate to be held to the same rules as they held Republicans to in the House. I thought so.
Now, what about that statement as to what Trump wants out of a Senate hearing? You going to get around to that?
@Greg: You missed the part where is isn’t an impeachment investigation until the house votes on it. Until then, it is only one branch of government having issues with another branch. You likely do not have any knowledge of how the government is supposed to work. Didn’t you hear the scholars and those who have participated in 2 prior impeachments explain why this effort by the dems would not work and allowed the executive branch to not participate. Maybe you really are stupid because you keep saying the same things over and over again like a parrot!
@Deplorable Me, #95:
That isn’t what I said, is it? Certain people do that a lot around here, as if it somehow magically erases what was actually stated.
As has been pointed out several times, republicans are the ones who are apparently getting ready to piss on an entirely legitimate constitutional process. McConnell and Graham have directly stated as much. Did you know that before a Senate impeachment trial commences, all voting members of the Senate will be required to stand and take an Impeachment Oath, solemnly sworn before God? It goes as follows, with each Senator filling in the blank with their own name:
That means they’re swearing to be fair and impartial jurors, coming to their individual verdicts by considering nothing more that the evidence and testimony about to be given, in the light of the Constitution and the laws of the land.
It means that when McConnell stated that he will coordinate everything with the White House Counsel, and that there will be no difference between the President’s position and his position, he was announcing his intention to take an oath before God that he has no intention whatsoever of keeping. It also means that Lindsey Graham has announced he will swear before God to be an impartial and fair juror, but has no intention whatsoever of keeping that oath.
You’ll find the oath that most if not all republican Senators intend to take and then break stated in Rule XXV of the Senate Rules, PROCEDURE AND GUIDELINES FOR IMPEACHMENT TRIALS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE. The rules have been in effect for over 30 years.
You can expect to hear more about this as the trial date nears, and afterward if Senate republicans take the oath and then very obviously break it. At this point they’re off to a damn good start, with McConnell and Graham having already stated how they intend to conduct themselves.
Then we’ve got Giuliani, openly admitting on FOX News that he forced out Ambassador Yovanovitch “because she was corrupt”. She was evidently “corrupt” because she was unknowingly “in the way” of he and Trump’s little scheme in Ukraine.
It didn’t seem to occur to him that he has no legal authority to be forcing any State Department employee out of their jobs and out of his way, whatever his f-cking judgement about them might be. He’s Trump’s private attorney, and he apparently isn’t even paid by Trump for that—though somebody is clearly sending some large sums of money in his direction. Maybe whoever wired Parnas the million-dollar payment in September that somehow slipped his mind? One can only speculate.
Giuliani is reportedly already under federal investigation for campaign finance violations and for failure to disclose that he has been working as the paid representative of a foreign government—a familiar situation with Trump associates. There’s probably a good reason why John Bolton warned that Giuliani was the hand grenade that was going to blow them all up. Another insider comment from Bolton:
It’s pretty clear why these guys defied House subpoenas to show up and testify, and why it’s likely McConnell with do everything he can to keep them out of the Senate trial.
From FOX News, December 17, 2019 – Rudy Giuliani says he was key player in Yovanovitch ouster, has proof of Dem impeachment a ‘cover-up’
@Greg:
Yes, it is. You made excuses, you obfuscated, you went off on tangents, you equivocated, you rationalized, but basically you argue that Senate Republicans do not have the right to do to Democrats what Democrats did to Republicans in the House.
And, you chickenshit your way out of answering my other question; WHAT does Trump want out of the Senate hearings, i.e., what does he want McConnell to do? He has clearly said he wants a full-blown and open trial, calling the appropriate witnesses and presenting the necessary evidence. He knows exposure of the FACTS and TRUTH (something Schiff worked hard to keep suppressed) will not only exonerate him but incriminate Democrats.
You better seriously rethink demanding Giuliani to testify openly. Yes, we already know Yovanovich lied about the emails she got from Democrat staffers and she has lied about her “no prosecute” list. Now Giuliani has MORE information about MORE lies she told under oath, blocking visas for Ukrainians that would have testified AGAINST the Democrat’s false accusations. Again, the corrupt are trying to hide the corruption while accusing their opponents of being corrupt.
So, have a Senate hearing, set rules that prevent lying, crying Democrats from running off with it, making additional false accusations as they did in the Kavanaugh hearings, and answering the accusations on the table and proving them lies.
@Deplorable Me: Greggie and the lefties have no idea what they have started. That old saying about “people who live in glass houses should not throw stones” is very appropriate here. What Trump wants is to drag every one of the leakers of TS information, every one who aided the Clintons in Uranium 1, everyone who covered up the Clinton email issue and the Clinton Foundation play for Pay. Trump wants to clear house and he has the ammunition and weapons. The left should remember that all of the intelligence agencies are under Trumps control. Swamp creatures will start if they have not already started to spill their guts. Unlike Trump, the swamp creatures enriched themselves using their government powers. Trump already had made his bundle. He has all the data as to where all the bodies are buried. He has promised to drain the swamp. I believe that during the last half of his 2nd term, there will be a lot of resisters who live in “glass houses” finding themselves hiring attorneys. Trump keeps his promises. They may also find themselves passing away before they tell on other of those swamp creatures. Remember Foster, Epstein and many others?