Schiff has made a fatal error

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Adam Schiff has pursued Donald Trump with a religious fervor.  He desperately want Trump out of office and will resort to just about anything to that end. Of late he is conducting secret impeachment proceedings, having failed to produce his mysterious Russian collusion evidence. In his zeal he has made a gigantic error- his “whistleblowers.”

#1- Eric Ciaramella

  • registered democrat
  • Contacted Schiff’s office first
  • Had whistleblower forms changed just for him
  • worked for John Brennan
  • worked with Alexandra Chalupa, who sought and obtained 2016 Ukranian election in interference
  • worked for Joe Biden
  • left post at NSC under cloud of leaking
  • authored the “Putin told Trump to fire Comey” story
  • disapproved of Trump foreign policy

 

#2- Alexander Vindman

  • He lied about Trumps’s phone call: “I was concerned by the call. I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’ s support of Ukraine.” Trump made no such demand.
  • Actively worked with Ukraine against Giuliani and Trump
  • He thinks he controls foreign policy

Vindman clearly does not understand government. Foreign policy is what the President wants it to be, not what he or Ciaramella want it to be.

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1189186557929897984

Neither Ciararmella nor Vindman had a problem with Joe Biden threatening to withhold aid to the Ukraine unless the prosecutor investigating the company on whose board Hunter Biden sat was fired.

Neither was bothered by the inherent Ukrainian corruption.

This is why I doubt that democrats will actually impeach Trump, but rather try to cause death by a thousand leaks.

If Trump is impeached, this all moves to the Senate where the GOP rules. A trial would include subpoenas – of Ciaramella and Vindman. It would mean testifying under oath. It would mean questions-

Did John Brennan ask them to spy on Trump?

Were they in contact with John Brennan during this time?

What was Joe Biden’s role in all of this?

What did obama know and when did he know it?

Is hillary clinton involved?

It is no wonder Ciaramella got cold feet but it’s too late. Schiff made a yuge error dragging them into this. Now they’re fair game.

When you actively undermine the President from within you are not a whistleblower. You’re a criminal.

 

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Trump needs to move on these people, and I don’t just mean the “whistleblowers” He’s running out of time.

You see by allowing Republicans ask any question they want they will bring up provable conspiracy, in direct conflict with their conspiracy theory. Folding the Democrat circus tent water-proofed with paraffin wax and gasoline. Schiffs isnt the only circus that forbids elephants.
When someone yells the tent is on fire, the dems are already on record, 2 may escape, the exits are blocked by the chutes to bring in the non witnesses. Pelosi and Schiff are playing with matches.

I don’t think having these creeps testify before Congress will help us or Trump. They will just continue to lie, and the media will report it as truth. Can you name any Dem that has been convicted of lying to Congress?

time to arrest obama for treason

@Angel: Its perfectly legal to lie in congress the most famous when Reid said Romney didnt pay income tax.
Members of Congress are given an absolute privilege to lie with impunity in the House or Senate, if they so desire, by the Speech or Debate Clause in Article I, Section 6 of the U.S. Constitution.

Remember when this all started and PT stated something along the lines that the bigger the deal they make of this the harder the fall was going to be? Just like with Spygate and the dems’ Ukraine corruption problem, he holds all the cards.

BOOM! President Trump Warns Democrats on Top Deep State Witness Alexander Vindman: “Well You’ll be Seeing Very Soon What Comes Out” (VIDEO)

So what was Schiff’s fatal error?

You do know what fatal means? Yet the inquiry is proceeding.

The Democrats pretend to be concerned for Ciaramella’s safety. No, they fear what he may say. Republicans want him safe and sound and on the stand. Eric (or “Charlie” in Stzrok texts) better watch his back and not go on any camping trips set up by Democrats. He might take a long walk off a short cliff.

Then, get Schitt on the stand. This is totally unraveling on the Democrats. If they didn’t have a corrupt media acting as their propaganda organ, this not only would have already collapsed under its own lies, but most likely would never have gotten off the ground at all.

Sorry, Democrats, but there is going to be a stiff price to pay for this one.

@Guy Aspromonte: The defeat (death) of impeachment is built in because there are NO honest people involved in promoting it. THAT is the fatal error.

People keep missing the point of all these “inquiries.”
None of them are intended to get President Trump out of office.
If there’d been anything serious that could have done that Dems would have pulled that trigger long ago.
No.
The goal is to keep bad-looking “stuff” in front of the voting public constantly.
Dems don’t understand Trump supporters will not be swayed into staying home on account of this.
THEY would, so they figure their opposites would, too.
Wrong.
Schiff doesn’t care that his impeachment inquiry is flawed.
Even if it is fatally flawed.
As long as he can keep creeping along, he’s OK with that, dripping out skewed leaks regularly, and, in his mind, turning Trump supporters against their man.
But even if Schiff’s entire sideshow were shut down a different version of it would emerge in one way or another with that same goal in mind.
Dishearten Trump supporters.

Now, does it look like we’re disheartened?
Been to a rally?
Seen one on TV (CSPAN) ?

This ploy won’t work.
President Donald Trump:
Up among black voters.
Up among Hispanic voters.
Up among gay voters.
Up among once-Democrat voters.
Up among Republican voters.
Up among Independent voters.
Up among women voters.

@Nan G: The only disheartening I have suffered is the realization that AMERICANS in our government would stoop to such depths to subvert a legal President. It is disheartening that some people supposedly serving the citizens serving foreign interests unfriendly to our country.

Another goal of all these endless and pointless investigations is to try and defeat the investigations into the origins of the coup against the President and its players.

@Deplorable Me:

The only disheartening I have suffered is the realization that AMERICANS in our government would stoop to such depths to subvert a legal President.

It’s pretty much to the point where they can no longer be viewed as fellow Americans but rather as a self serving praetorian guard. It’s us and them. Period.

@Nan G:

This is a good time to go back and re-look at these two stories in the context of what has come out since their publication.

Re-read this one and think Ukraine and Epstein. Also remember right after this Gulliani jumped into the picture and started talking crime and corruption, probably because he was made privy to the content compliments of the NYPD. PT said there were crimes committed and they were all done by dems. Could the Weiner laptop have been his source?

BREAKING BOMBSHELL: NYPD Blows Whistle on New Hillary Emails: Money Laundering, Sex Crimes with Children, Child Exploitation, Pay to Play, Perjury

Re-read this one and think Spygate and Schitt’s current Soviet show trial. Also remember Admiral Rogers advised then President elect Trump to move his operation out of Trump Towers because it was being spied on essentially confirming what is alleged in this article. Could this be why Barr stated he believed PT was spied on?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22/bombshell-cia-whistleblower-leaked-proof-trump-under-systematic-illegal-government-s

It’s no coincidence PT hired Gulliani as his attorney given his knowledge of what happened and his experience as a prosecutor. It’s no coincidence that he replaced Sessions with Barr. Sessions did some good things but was in way over his head with the DS. Hence Barr. There is also speculation out there that the Antifa looking “Charlie” just may be mentioned in the FISA abuse report.

Trump’s support base is becoming ever narrower. Right now he reaches 50% approval among only two demographics: white protestants and poorly-educated white men.

Of special concern is that he now has a disapproval rating of 22% among Republicans, including a 15% “strongly disapprove,” despite the fact that Congressional Republicans are all following him like lemmings.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHZOvmGxA31NQboKQeaqHii1YoClJ-DWQtbIK-QwyjY/htmlview#gid=0

The first transcripts have been released, MSM will not read them but rely on the overveiw written by Schiffs aides.
Read them and remember…
You can’t ask foreign governments for help? How do you get help in investigating somebody when the events occurred overseas? The FBI does this all the time we investigate people for drug prosecutions, investment prosecutions, money laundering with the assistance of foreign governments all the time.
The President sets foreign policy not partisan worker bees.
If the President didnt want a corrupt government to waste our tax dollars that up to him. He can withhold the money for any reason he likes.
You cant investigate a candidate for President? ELECTION INTERFERENCE! Trump is running for that office does that escape their notice? You bet it does not always accuse your enemy of what you are doing.
They cannot name the statute Trump violated, the crime, no grand jury as with previous impeachments of Nixon and Clinton with the evidence provided to congress for consideration. Then a 2/3rds vote to send it to the senate where the President can face his accuser and mount a defense.
READ THE TRANSCRIPTS wheres the crime what statute violated.
When this crumbles as the other attempts of a coup have investigate the National Security Council as Mark Levin says this is a nest of rats, and Schiff is Willard.

@kitt: Where is the EVIDENCE? There is nothing but opinion and hear say.

@Deplorable Me: Better question evidence of what? They are trying to make everyone believe there is a different foreign policy to what a Duly elected President says it is, and that somehow is more legal?

@Gus Aspromonte: His approval among blacks is about triple what it was in 2016; this is a BIG problem for Democrats, who use and discard them. His approval among Republicans is 88%.

@kitt: Burisma lobbying Obama’s State Department to stop investigations of corruption just before Biden extorted them to stop; mention Hunter Biden is on the board
https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/

This is the crux of it. The Democrat corruption is coming unraveled and getting exposed. God knows what Giuliani dug up. Biden got caught extorting Ukraine to protect his son, Obama and Kerry knew about it and Hunter’s name was specifically mentioned in order to get them to kill the investigation… and it worked. NOTHING the Democrats have is even close to such corruption; in their mind, Trump’s biggest offense is doing things they don’t like, not anything illegal.

@Gus Aspromonte:

Trump’s support base is becoming ever narrower. Right now he reaches 50% approval among only two demographics: white protestants and poorly-educated white men.

That’s the false narrative fed to underworked white men like you.

The polls are mostly democrat propaganda, meant to induce groupthink (look at yourself in the mirror for that “demographic”)

Trump is widely popular, and mainly because he is ACTUALLY successful, with concrete outcomes that can be verified.

It’s the ultimate nightmare of both the Dem and Repub party: and effective President that isn’t part of the system…making them look like the sell-outs they are.

So much misinformation, and for what? Pride?

I don’t care if anyone, including myself, likes Trump. He’s in a temp job that celebrates the office of the President, not the individual sitting in it.

We’ve reduced carbon emissions more than anyone. All the signers of the Paris agreement FAILED at doing what they signed to do.
– Record economy.
– Ending wars.
-ACA clipped, but care maintained for millions.
-Fighting back against China’s takeover
– Best unemployment rates for blacks and latinos
– Prominent blacks support his actual results, but are attacked by the Dem party…who want to continue to keep blacks in mental slavery.

The guy is a huge success, for all of us.

Trump’s support base is becoming ever narrower.

Sources, please? That’s your fantasy, not reality. The only “poll” that counts is in the election booth, and that’s what scares you and your party…thus the “everyone hates him” fallacy.

What polling counts?
So much of it is suspect.
Fox News has Trump even losing to Hillary (who isn’t in the race as of today) as they had him losing to her by 4 points on Election Day 2016!
So, what about an enthusiasm poll?
People who got into the Trump rally in Tupelo, Miss. the other day had to arrive early on Thursday to see him at the rally on Friday.
The temperatures that overnight were below freezing.
So, how did the voters among the attendees shake out?

16,432 voters identified among the capacity crowd.
24% voted once or less in last 4 elections (12% in zero).
27% Democrat.
20% Black.

Then the Kentucky rally happened today.
27,285 voters identified among the capacity crowd.
28% voted once or less in last 4 elections (14% in zero).
23% Democrat.
Nearly 100% from Kentucky.

On Oct 18th there was a Trump rally in Texas.
53,985 voters identified among the sellout, capacity crowd.
12% have not voted in the last 4 elections
21.4% Democrat
11% Latino

Looks like more Democrats, Latinos, Blacks are seeing President Trump as the one they choose then last election.

@Deplorable Me: Reading the Transcript with the former ambassador she seems unable to find out anything that was happening around her from 2016 to her release from service thats up to page 57. Seems Soloman could, and he didnt have the access this woman did.

@Nan G: There are going to be more tears shed, especially when he wins the EC and Popular vote, which he is sure to do.

Dems? They actually need someone to vote for, and they don’t have one.

Can you imagine a debate between Warren and Trump?

*BOOM*

@kitt: Nan whats up with this? https://powderedwigsociety.com/un-taking-over

Jackie Biskupski, Salt Lake City Mayor is an uber-leftist lesbian who did not run for re-election because one term set her for life.
Salt Lake County went for Hillary and has a Democrat in the House of Reps.

But the acts of the state legislators requires more info:
Utah’s Mormons are more globalists than Republicans. They constantly require “new blood” (their own term) to prevent inbreeding among their elite inner core of Mormon leading families.
Traditionally these immigrant wives had been German, Swiss, Danes, other northern Europeans.
But more recently Mexican women have been added to their mix (at the top of their org.)
Nowadays it is very common to see men most of American women would consider iffy for marriage in marriages to African, Asian, Hispanic wives inside the Mormon church, so the prevalence is for their “Republicans,” to be GOPe.
GOPe prefer a globalist Hillary to a populist Trump.
Many of the inner-circle Mormons voted for Hillary or Evan McMullin rather than Trump in 2016.
These inner-circle men are in control of Utah’s state legislation.
They take a paternalistic attitude toward all of Utah.
Thus we only had 6 total new restaurants approved to sell alcohol in all of 2019!
There are only 3 alcohol permits coming in 2020!
The DUI level for a harsh ticket is well below the level where you’d feel anything, much less be impaired.
It really should be renamed driving after having had a drink some time that day because one case I heard about the guy had had beer with lunch then hours later went out to dinner, no drink at dinner and still tested above this low level on his way home!
So, these Mormon leaders of the state gov’t love to lord it over all of Utah in ways that grate the nerves of normal people.
Of course they would rub in a UN takeover of the Salt Palace instead of just keep it on the same level as any other renter of that venue.

@Nan G: I saw a couple of sources report on it nothing mainstream They have cleared out now that the party is over?

Schiff implements new rules for witnesses assuring no questions go in the direction of his corruption and manipulation of the process.

https://www.governorpalin.org/2019/11/07/breaking-adam-schiff-creates-new-rules-restricts-republican-witness-questions/?fbclid=IwAR25UYSp5KC0PyUHL0BVqL_XsBqBH2kgb2KyExOoyASLqDoHXVP-0_Nrfm0

So much for “open” and “fair”. At the first opportunity, Schitt needs to be prosecuted for obstruction of justice.

@Deplorable Me: Breaking: Sens. Grassley and Johnson demand State Dept release all documents about Hunter Biden and Burisma contacts.
ut oh joe got caught with his creepy feely hands deep in the tax payer cookie jar and lying about it.

Senators Johnson & Grassley Tell State Dept.To Give Them All Hunter Biden Documents

@kitt: More and more, all the Democrat’s investigations and now impeachment is nothing but a transparent attempt to draw attention away from their own corruption and their failed coup.

We now know who leaked classified material to the spy, Vindman. That man should be in cuffs this minute
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/11/08/alexander-vindmans-testimony-appears-confirm-illegally-leaked-whistle-blower/
The arrogant bastid thinks the state dept and the nsc set policy…dude its the president the “elected official” If you dont like it you dont complain to unauthorized weasels, go to the President or SOS to make your case.

@kitt:

While it may be reasonable to claim there’s smoke here, none of this has been directly connected to the President. That seems like a pretty big issue if one seeks to impeach and remove him.

Though for Democrats, the fact that there is Trump, there is a world and bad things happen in the world is enough to impeach Trump for bad things that happen anywhere.

He accused the President of “subverting” U.S. foreign policy,

How can he subvert his own foreign policy? What he is saying, if Trump does something the left does not like, he should be impeached for it.

How difficult does anyone think it would be to get Vindman to turn on his co-conspirators for his freedom (though he should be court-marshaled)? And he has Schitt to thank for it.

@Deplorable Me: He should be Levenworth bound.

@Nathan Blue: “The only poll that counts is in the election booth.” Absolutely
Electoral College majority —-POTUS
Pretty simple—Nov 2020 can’t come soon enough

Thanks for your service Nathan
RJW

@Richard Wheeler: Well drop in to be captain obvious? So do you think Schiff should be conspiring with spies for his sure to fail coup?

@kitt:

Vindman admitted when questioned by Johnny Radcliffe that he advised his Ukrainian counterpart to not get involved in U.S. politics. WTF? He was tasked with carrying out the President’s foreign policy, not countering the President’s foreign policy. Radcliffe asked him if he was aware of the US/Ukrainian agreement on investigations. He said he was.

This clown needs to be removed from his position and brought up on UCMJ charges.

@retire05: Contrary to what Rich says, wearing the uniform does not cleanse away sins; in fact, it makes sins such as bad-mouthing his nation to foreign counterparts, instructing foreigners how to circumvent US foreign policy and leaking classified information makes the sins more egregious. Vindman has betrayed his country.

@Deplorable Me: Happy anniversary of the Berlin wall being only a part of bad history and rubble.
Let us see how many witnesses Schiff allows the minority to call. My bet it will be zero.

@kitt: Ich bin ein Berliner

@Deplorable Me:

I believe that Vindman was either the nexus of the WB complaint, or at least one of the “contributors” of the complaint.

This gives me no pleasure thinking that someone who wears the uniform of our nation would “collude” to bring down a sitting president. Quite the opposite, it makes me quite sad. But from Vindman’s own testimony, it is quite clear that he was working to bring about the best interest of the Ukraine (advising his Ukrainian counterpart to not get involved), not the United States. He is Ukrainian American and seems to have his loyalties confused. He admits that he was concerned that what the President said would have a “political” ramification, which could only mean he believed the Democrats would then with hold aid to Ukraine in retribution. Don’t forget, it is rumored that the DNC server has make its way to the Ukraine. That is exactly the reason President Trump mentioned Crowdstrike.

If the Russia, Russia, Russia!!! and the Ukrainian scandals have proven one thing it is how deep the Deep State goes and how much those in the intel believe that it they, not the President, who should control American foreign policy going so far as to impeach a President to protect their interests.

@Richard Wheeler: Sorry I dont speak nazi 😉
Translation I am a jelly doughnut?

My preference apple streusel, its a nordic thing.
So do you think Schiff should be conspiring with spies for his sure to fail coup?

@kitt: HINT—-JFK in Berlin

I’m no fan of Schiff but Donnies own people are gonna put up some pretty damning evidence re his abuse of power—-get out the popcorn.

@Richard Wheeler: Jfk no shit sherlock
now answer the question asked
do you think Schiff should be conspiring with spies

What abuse? do you have an example?

@kitt: You taking those nasty pills again?
Quid Pro Quo Your Latin any better than your Nazi?

@Richard Wheeler: Quid Pro Quo Joe? I saw that confession to the CFR, what has that to do with Trump? I read that EU ambassador said to some Ukrainian during meetings there would be no aid without a statement about corruption, he 1 week later texted “The President has been crystal clear no Quid Pro Quo of any kind.”
They got the aid, they knew nothing about the delay during the call.
I have not yet begun to be nasty. You are a bit on the slow side with the jelly doughnut reference. Are you so dense I must explain or reference every joke?
So the next Quid Pro Quo will be removing tariffs if China stops stealing our technology, you know that sounds like a bribe.

@kitt: Screw politics—bunch of old fat white guys jerking each other off–B O R I N G

LSU 46—Bama 41—Game of the Century—-Where is LSU’S biggest fan Red Team
That’s Excitement!!

@Richard Wheeler: To save yourself from getting all your little hopes and dreams up only to be smashed, you should go read “Another “Devastating testimony” that is a damn joke.” Republicans absolutely shred and destroy Vindman’s opinions and expose his duplicitous efforts to undermine the United States government. They also pretty much expose that Vindman leaked classified information to the gossipy “whistle blower”. It’s all nothing but hearsay, opinions and false accusations.

@Richard Wheeler:

: Screw politics

, ahh umm political blog, do you go to a barbara streisand concert stand up and start screaming FREEBIRD! FREEBIRD.
Did you see them cheer for Trump? He was at the game.

@Deplorable Me: Wish list from the GOP

· Hunter Biden
· “The Whistleblower”
· Devon Archer (Hunter Biden’s business partner)
· Alexandra Chalupa (allegedly met with Ukrainian officials to discuss dirt on Trump in 2016)
· Nellie Ohr (Fusion GPS researcher) huh? a shot across the bow?
· Tim Morrison (return visit)
· Kurt Volker (return visit)
· David Hale (State Department)

Any Republican witness has to be approved by the Democratic majority (following rules Republicans put in place when they had the majority in 2015.

@kitt: I think Schitt is on the list as well.

@Deplorable Me: Try to take power from a leftist you get Bolivia. The guy that had a referendum say no your term limits are up runs anyway then a crooked election, he declares himself the winner.

@kitt: Alabama and LOUSIANA—Deep Red rednecks Trump’s base—Let’s see how he does at a Badger-Buckeye game—probably afraid to show up.

Streisand ha—Rock and Roll baby—Think Donnie would dare attend a Stones concert.?

@Richard Wheeler: Dont know it was republican governor Walker that froze tuition so they couldnt keep ripping off the kids. Evers had a hissy over that but has yet to reverse it. Evers gun referendum was hammered out of session, no red flags here. The middle class tax cuts he promised he backed out on, property taxes went up. Doubled the yearly auto registration. He is trying to lock poor kids in failing schools no vouchers.
Trump had to step in and save the Foxconn deal, Evers doing his best to keep those jobs out of Wisconsin.

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