It’s an axiom right out of the Clinton playbook- accuse other of the crimes they commit. Democrats are employing that strategy at this very moment. What are they crying about?
Trump using foreign governments to dug up dirt on political opponents. As soon as I heard that I knew they were guilty of it. And guilty they are. Let’s see how often this occurred. Politico, January 2016
2016: Democrats seek help from the Ukraine to dig up dirt on Donald Trump
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
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Manafort’s work for Yanukovych caught the attention of a veteran Democratic operative named Alexandra Chalupa, who had worked in the White House Office of Public Liaison during the Clinton administration. Chalupa went on to work as a staffer, then as a consultant, for Democratic National Committee. The DNC paid her $412,000 from 2004 to June 2016, according to Federal Election Commission records, though she also was paid by other clients during that time, including Democratic campaigns and the DNC’s arm for engaging expatriate Democrats around the world.
A daughter of Ukrainian immigrants who maintains strong ties to the Ukrainian-American diaspora and the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, Chalupa, a lawyer by training, in 2014 was doing pro bono work for another client interested in the Ukrainian crisis and began researching Manafort’s role in Yanukovych’s rise, as well as his ties to the pro-Russian oligarchs who funded Yanukovych’s political party.
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But Andrii Telizhenko, who worked as a political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy under Shulyar, said she instructed him to help Chalupa research connections between Trump, Manafort and Russia. “Oksana said that if I had any information, or knew other people who did, then I should contact Chalupa,” recalled Telizhenko, who is now a political consultant in Kiev. “They were coordinating an investigation with the Hillary team on Paul Manafort with Alexandra Chalupa,” he said, adding “Oksana was keeping it all quiet,” but “the embassy worked very closely with” Chalupa.
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While it’s not uncommon for outside operatives to serve as intermediaries between governments and reporters, one of the more damaging Russia-related stories for the Trump campaign — and certainly for Manafort — can be traced more directly to the Ukrainian government.
2016: John Brennan makes secret trip to Russia
The political pressure continued. Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in crucial U.S. aid to Kiev if Poroshenko did not fire the country’s chief prosecutor. Ukraine would have been bankrupted without the aid, so Poroshenko obliged on March 29, 2016, and fired Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.
At the time, Biden was aware that Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma, the firm employing Hunter Biden, after a December 2015 New York Times article.
As Donald Trump began his meteoric rise to the presidency, the Obama White House summoned Ukrainian authorities to Washington to coordinate ongoing anti-corruption efforts inside Russia’s most critical neighbor.
The January 2016 gathering, confirmed by multiple participants and contemporaneous memos, brought some of Ukraine’s top corruption prosecutors and investigators face to face with members of former President Obama’s National Security Council (NSC), FBI, State Department and Department of Justice (DOJ).
The agenda suggested the purpose was training and coordination. But Ukrainian participants said it didn’t take long — during the meetings and afterward — to realize the Americans’ objectives included two politically hot investigations: one that touched Vice President Joe Biden’s family and one that involved a lobbying firm linked closely to then-candidate Trump.
U.S. officials “kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united,” said Andrii Telizhenko, then a political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington tasked with organizing the meeting.
2018 Democrats threaten Ukraine
Democrats in Congress previously pressured Ukraine to continue investigations into President Donald Trump or risk losing U.S. aid, despite current cries of impeachment over the president’s similar actions.
In 2018, Democratic Sens. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, Dick Durbin of Illinois, and Pat Leahy of Vermont sent a letter to the Ukrainian general prosecutor accusing him of trying to “impede cooperation” with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into collusion by the Trump campaign.
“On May 2, the New York Times reported that your office effectively froze investigations into four open cases in Ukraine in April, thereby eliminating scope for cooperation with the Mueller probe into related issues,” the senators wrote to General Prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko. “The article notes that your office considered these cases as too politically sensitive and potentially jeopardizing U.S. financial and military aid to Ukraine.”
The senators also specifically add that it would be a mistake for Lutsenko to drop the investigations “in order to avoid the ire of President Trump.”
The letter also appears to dangle U.S. support for Ukraine as a reason for the country to continue cooperating with the investigation, stating, “In four short years, Ukraine has made significant progress in building [democratic] institutions despite ongoing military, economic and political pressure from Moscow. We have supported that capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these principles.”
Earlier this month, during a bipartisan meeting in Kiev, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) delivered a pointed message to Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky.
While choosing his words carefully, Murphy made clear — by his own account — that Ukraine currently enjoyed bipartisan support for its U.S. aid but that could be jeopardized if the new president acquiesced to requests by President Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani to investigate past corruption allegations involving Americans, including former Vice President Joe Biden’s family.
Murphy boasted after the meeting that he told the new Ukrainian leader that U.S. aid was his country’s “most important asset” and it would be viewed as election meddling and “disastrous for long-term U.S.-Ukraine relations” to bend to the wishes of Trump and Giuliani.
“I told Zelensky that he should not insert himself or his government into American politics. I cautioned him that complying with the demands of the President’s campaign representatives to investigate a political rival of the President would gravely damage the U.S.-Ukraine relationship. There are few things that Republicans and Democrats agree on in Washington these days, and support for Ukraine is one of them,” Murphy told me today, confirming what he told Ukraine’s leader.
The implied message did not require an interpreter for Zelensky to understand: Investigate the Ukraine dealings of Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and you jeopardize Democrats’ support for future U.S. aid to Kiev.
2019 :Ukraine confirms that DNC contractor sought dirt on Trump
The boomerang from the Democratic Party’s failed attempt to connect Donald Trump to Russia’s 2016 election meddling is picking up speed, and its flight path crosses right through Moscow’s pesky neighbor, Ukraine. That is where there is growing evidence a foreign power was asked, and in some cases tried, to help Hillary Clinton.
In its most detailed account yet, the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington says a Democratic National Committee (DNC) insider during the 2016 election solicited dirt on Donald Trump’s campaign chairman and even tried to enlist the country’s president to help.
In written answers to questions, Ambassador Valeriy Chaly’s office says DNC contractor Alexandra Chalupa sought information from the Ukrainian government on Paul Manafort’s dealings inside the country in hopes of forcing the issue before Congress.
Chalupa later tried to arrange for Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to comment on Manafort’s Russian ties on a U.S. visit during the 2016 campaign, the ambassador said.
Chaly says that, at the time of the contacts in 2016, the embassy knew Chalupa primarily as a Ukrainian American activist and learned only later of her ties to the DNC. He says the embassy considered her requests an inappropriate solicitation of interference in the U.S. election.
“The Embassy got to know Ms. Chalupa because of her engagement with Ukrainian and other diasporas in Washington D.C., and not in her DNC capacity. We’ve learned about her DNC involvement later,” Chaly said in a statement issued by his embassy. “We were surprised to see Alexandra’s interest in Mr. Paul Manafort’s case. It was her own cause. The Embassy representatives unambiguously refused to get involved in any way, as we were convinced that this is a strictly U.S. domestic matter.”
“All ideas floated by Alexandra were related to approaching a Member of Congress with a purpose to initiate hearings on Paul Manafort or letting an investigative journalist ask President Poroshenko a question about Mr. Manafort during his public talk in Washington, D.C.,” the ambassador explained.
2019 Adam Schiff staffer makes trip to Ukraine
A staffer for Rep. Adam Schiff’s House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence took a trip to Ukraine last month sponsored and organized by the Atlantic Council think tank.
The Atlantic Council is funded by and routinely works in partnership with Burisma, the natural gas company at the center of allegations regarding Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.
The Schiff staffer, Thomas Eager, is also currently one of 19 fellows at the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Congressional Fellowship, a bipartisan program that says it “educates congressional staff on current events in the Eurasia region.”
Eager’s trip to Ukraine last month was part of the fellowship program and included nine other House employees. The bi-partisan visit, from August 24 to August 31, was billed as a “Ukraine Study Trip,” and culminated in a meeting with former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.
The dates of the pre-planned trip are instructive. Eager’s visit to Ukraine sponsored by the Burisma-funded Atlantic Council began 12 days after the so-called whistleblower officially filed his August 12 complaint about President Donald Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
2019: Rush Limbaugh reports that John Brennan went to Ukraine under a false passport. Hmmm
democrat have a long history of soliciting damage on political opponents from foreign countries and threatening to withhold aid.
The race is on- the race between the damage democrats can visit on Trump and Barr’s report. Just remember the axiom – democrats will accuse opponents of crimes they commit- and you won’t go wrong.
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Except for liberals being foolish.
And now this just came out.
At least someone has a sense of humor in all this but I don’t think the dems will be laughing as they are probably too busy crapping in their pants.
thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/brilliant-corrupt-congressional-dems-ask-trump-state-dept-for-ukrainian-docs-get-crooked-hillary-and-biden-docs-instead-video/
@another vet: I have not seen this anywhere, but could be true. Is AOC and her buddies pushing Pelosi and entrenched Dems to push the impeachment against Trump knowing they will not win. AOC has been highly critical of entrenched Dems and a failed impeachment effort may show just how out of touch with the world and voters the old Dems are. Maybe this is part of a strategy for the new Dems to get rid of the old “goats”? Maybe a short term loss for long term gain is acceptable to AOC and friends. Maybe, I also give her credit for too much thought.
“Accuse you of the crimes they commit ”
Germany in the 30’s as well as every other dictatorship or leftist government. Tell the lie over and over until it is ingrained as the truth. Slam it dwen people’s throats and turn them into the enemy.
worked then and is being pushed now yet no one will point this out! on the whole!
Which again raises the question. Will man ever learn from his mistakes
@joetote:
Joseph Goebbels’s favorite expression. polosi was a bar fly in Ca. in her early days, harris wore knee pads in college and her early political career and back burns were the worse. biden loves porn. nadler has a reptilian brain, and the squat team has no brains. one olf mueller’s relative ran a concentration camp in Germany and executed over one million Jews-The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer. As Napoleon Bonaparte once said, never interfere with your enemy when he is making a mistake.
@MOS # 8541:
Agreed, never interfere with your enemy when they are making a mistake, but one must address the facts unfortunately that the lemmings are turning into the enemies within. And far to much of that is because of the overt indoctrination and the refusal of far to many people to think for themselves
Projecting projection as a defense mechanism involves a bit too much recursion for me to sort out. All I’ll say is that the buck starts and stops with Donald Trump, even if it gets passed around in a circle.
From The Guardian, October 3, 2019 – Trump admits he pushed Ukraine for dirt on Biden and calls on China to investigate
Surely North Korea could also be of assistance.
@Greg: Simply a reference to what the DNC is trying, it’s an old tactic of the fascist.
Not projecting as our side gathers evidence, They know what they have done and are dumb enough to blame Trump and give our side clues as where to look.
Mix Stalin and Alinsky you have the DNC.
Someone gave a hint at the CIA, Brennan is being called for testimony.
1999 vs. 2019: Senate Republicans’ attitudes on impeachment sure have changed a lot
Yeah. It’s called hypocrisy.
@Greg: The process by which the Democrats are proceeding is by cutting out the Republicans so why do you think their opinion is important?
Why didnt Nancy take a vote?
Its a sham an utter sham.
@Greg:
“And one of the reasons we all feel so angry about what they are doing is that they are ripping asunder our votes. They are telling us that our votes don’t count. And that the election must be set aside.”
And who said that, Comrade Greggie Goebbels?
Or this?
It’s about a punishment searching for a crime that doesn’t exist,”
@Greg: Clinton lied under oath. That is a high crime ! You are still dumber than a rock.
I know you don’t hear from me much anymore, but I keep track and one of the things I have to say I’ve missed commenting on is Greg’s inane ramblings. As such, my point earlier on about the lemmings becoming the enemies within.
Hard to find a better example of anyone marching in lockstep with the loony left then Greg.
LOL.