What happened to the democrat party? What made you turn on America?

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democrats somehow have collectively suffered brain damage. I can’t think of another reason for their bizarre insane actions and blanket hypocrisy. Donald Trump needs not ridicule them. He only needs to emphasize what they are doing to themselves. To wit:

2013: Adam Schiff wants more transparency at the FISA court.

When intelligence agencies want a wiretap, they have to make a case to one of the 11 judges of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance – or FISA – court. Since September 11, 2001, that data includes phone records and websites surfed by both foreigners and Americans.

Burbank Democrat Adam Schiff has introduced a measure that would make the court more transparent by requiring it to declassify its interpretation of law. He says the court makes some very important decisions, “some of them deep constitutional issues, and I think it would help inform the public debate and I think we can do it in a way that doesn’t compromise national  security.”

The bill has bipartisan support. A similar bill — backed by a progressive and a Tea Party supporter — has been introduced in the  Senate.

2019- More transparency in the FISA court would be dangerous

May 2019- Nancy Pelosi claims she never said there was not a crisis on the border:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) falsely claimed Wednesday that Democrats have “never” denied that there is a “crisis” on the U.S.-Mexico border — a statement directly contradicted by the words of multiple party leaders just months ago.

“Well, let me just say this. We have never not said that there was a crisis — there is a humanitarian crisis at the border, and some of it provoked by the actions taken by the administration,” Pelosi stated during her weekly press conference in the Capitol Visitor Center on Wednesday.

Pelosi- Three months ago:

“It’s important to note when the president declares this emergency, first of all, it’s not an emergency what’s happening at the border. It’s a humanitarian challenge to us. The president has tried to sell a bill of goods to the American people.”

2006; Joe Biden on the illegal alien invasion:

Folks, I voted for a fence, I voted, unlike most Democrats — and some of you won’t like it — I voted for 700 miles of fence. But, let me tell you, we can build a fence 40 stories high — unless you change the dynamic in Mexico and — and you will not like this, and punish American employers who knowingly violate the law when, in fact, they hire illegals. Unless you do those two things, all the rest is window dressing.

And

“And let me tell you something folks, people are driving across that border with tons, tons, hear me, tons of everything from byproducts for methamphetamine to cocaine to heroin and it’s all coming up through corrupt Mexico,” Biden said.

Biden 2007:

Former Vice President and 2020 Democrat presidential primary candidate Joe Biden (D-DE) previously vowed to ban sanctuary cities across the United States that shield illegal aliens from deportation.

During a September 2007 Democrat presidential primary debate in New Hampshire at Dartmouth College, Biden said he would not support allowing local jurisdictions and states to ignore federal immigration law to help protect illegal aliens from deportation through sanctuary city policies.

The former Delaware senator even went as far as to criticize President George W. Bush’s administration for allowing sanctuary cities to operate in the U.S.

Biden 2014:

You know, the 11 million people living in the shadows, I believe they’re already American citizens. Teddy Roosevelt said it better, he said Americanism is not a question of birthplace or creed or a line of dissent. It’s a question of principles, idealism, and character. [Emphasis added]

These people are just waiting, waiting for a chance to be able to contribute fully. And by that standard, 11 million undocumented aliens are already Americans.

Biden 2019:

“I think that anyone who is in a situation where they’re in need of health care, regardless of whether they are documented or undocumented, we have an obligation to see that they are cared for,” Biden said. “That’s why I think we need more clinics around the country.”

The former vice president added that we need to “tone down the rhetoric” against illegals and that worries over illegal immigration are meant to “create fear and concern” about “that other, the immigrant.”

Using YOUR money, of course.

Liberals: Donald Trump is a threat to the free press.

Macleans: Donald Trump is a threat to the press and to freedom of speech

When the president attacks credible news sources as “fake news” and calls them the “enemy of the American people,” he encourages his mob of mouth-frothing supplicants to insult, dismiss, and even threaten members of the press. When he attacks journalists who challenge him, he undermines trust in the fourth estate and threatens free speech—at least the speech of those who disagree with him (also known as a majority of Americans). The impulse to dismiss the press as biased and propagandistic is authoritarian at its core. The practice is chilling.

It matters very little whether Trump is attacking the press as part of a deliberate strategy to extend his authority, to distract from his failures, or because he’s a narcissistic ass who can’t help himself—or some combination of the three. The effect of his attacks are serious and dangerous. There are malign influences surrounding the president who are prepared to seize their moment regardless of his intent. There are disaffected and angry mobs who support the man and are prepared to harass his “enemies” and their own no matter what Trump intends. And even if the current occupant of the Oval Office turns out to be a minor infection of the body politic, he might clear the way for a much more dangerous pathogen to follow him.

Newsweek: DONALD TRUMP’S THREAT TO PRESS FREEDOM: WHY IT MATTERS

Less than a month before the U.S. presidential election, the Committee to Protect Journalists issued an unprecedented statement denouncing the then-Republican nominee. “[Donald] Trump has insulted and vilified the press and has made his opposition to the media a centerpiece of his campaign,” said the committee, a New York-based organization that promotes press freedom. “A Trump presidency would represent a threat to press freedom in the United States.”

With little more than two months before Trump takes the oath of office, the threat to the media—and the public’s right to know—is reality. However, President-elect Trump may find a thicket of laws and Supreme Court precedents limit his maneuvering—slight comfort for those working to protect a free press.

The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ)

Donald Trump, through his words and actions as a candidate for president of the United States, has consistently betrayed First Amendment values. On October 6, CPJ’s board of directors passed a resolution declaring Trump an unprecedented threat to the rights of journalists and to CPJ’s ability to advocate for press freedom around the world.

Since the beginning of his candidacy, Trump has insulted and vilified the press and has made his opposition to the media a centerpiece of his campaign. Trump has routinely labeled the press as “dishonest” and “scum” and singled out individual news organizations and journalists.

What has Trump done, other than hurt their feelings?

Nothing. In contrast, when it came to actually taking action against the press, obama makes Trump look like a rookie:

In 2009, for example, the Obama White House intentionally excluded Fox News’ Chris Wallace from participating in a round of interviews pertaining to the president’s push for healthcare reform. Later that same year, the administration officials tried to block Fox reporters from interviewing “pay czar” Kenneth Feinberg. The White House initially lied about this, and many in the press went along with it. It wasn’t until 2011 that the public learned the truth of the Feinberg episode. An internal email dated Oct. 22, 2009, showed the White House director of broadcast media told Treasury officials specifically, “We’d prefer if you skip Fox please.”

The bigger point is that Feinberg was not the only administration official to have his network appearances limited by the White House.

The Obama White House communications director, Anita Dunn, said at the time, “We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent. As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.”

That language about “legitimate news organizations” and “opponents” is only different from the things Trump says by degree, not by kind.

In 2010, the Obama administration renewed the bogus Bush-era subpoena against the New York Times’ James Risen in a prolonged attempt to determine whether the reporter was the recipient of leaked CIA information. In February 2011, federal investigators were revealed to have spied on Risen. Federal investigators pored over Risen’s credit reports and his personal bank records. The feds even tracked his phone logs and movements.

Later, in 2012, Fox was mysteriously excluded from a White House conference call pertaining to the terrorist attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Fox was also excluded from an all-network CIA briefing regarding the attacks.

In 2013, the Obama Justice Department labeled then-Fox News reporter James Rosen a “criminal co-conspirator” under the Espionage Act of 1917. And all because the reporter used a State Department contractor as a source for a story. Rosen was also labeled a “flight risk.”

The Justice Department seized the records of at least five phone lines connected to Fox News. The federal law enforcement agency even seized the phone records of Rosen’s parents. The FBI also got a warrant to search Rosen’s emails from 2010.

In May 2013, the Associated Press revealed that the Justice Department had secretly collected two months’ worth of personal and work-related phone calls made by AP reporters and editors.

Federal officials secretly obtained records on incoming and outgoing calls made by specific AP journalists, as well as general news staff, the news group reported, potentially compromising many sources totally unrelated to the investigation. Federal investigators even collected data on calls made by AP reporters in the House of Representatives press gallery.

In 2014, the Obama administration set the record for denying the most Freedom of Information Act requests of any administration. It topped this feat in 2015.

But somehow, actually throttling, spying and jailing the free press was just fine when it was obama. And that new Mayor of San Francisco is no slouch when it comes to suppression of the press:

Oddly enough, many of the same journalists who have spent the last three years resisting the White House’s supposed war on the newsroom (which, incidentally, has landed them plush media profiles and lucrative book deals and speaking gigs) have not had a lot to say this week about San Francisco Mayor London Breed’s endorsement of her police department’s flagrant violations of freelancer Bryan Carmody’s First Amendment rights.

The New York Times reports this week:

When two San Francisco police officers knocked on Bryan Carmody’s door in April they politely requested that Mr. Carmody, a freelance videographer, reveal who had leaked a police report to him about themysterious death of the city’s public defender

“They were nice about it,” Mr. Carmody said. “Of course I said, ‘No, I’m not going to tell you guys.’” 

But when a dozen officers returned to his home on Friday, this time their guns were drawn and they came equipped with a search warrant, a sledgehammer and a battering ram.

Carmody claims he was restrained in handcuffs for nearly six hours as the authorities ransacked his home, seizing “laptops, phones and hard drives — including all the images and documents he had archived from his 29-year career as a reporter and cameraman,” the report adds.

And just when you think free speech is a good idea:

Trump’s Plan to Protect Free Speech on Campus Is a Bad Idea

Make up your minds, you idiot liberals.

Here’s Hollywood drama queen Jeff Daniels who’s overdosed on self-righteous pills since he’s now played Atticus Finch:

“I know these people; they’re good people,” Daniels continued. “And I think there are people in the Midwest, between the coasts, who don’t know anything about— who don’t care about this, who don’t have time for this, who have to make a decision now. You have to decide whether, like Atticus, you believe that there is still compassion, decency, civility, respect for others.”

“Your kids are looking up at you going, ‘But he lies,’” Daniels said, noting that people, particularly in the Midwest, might have had enough of Trump and are ready to move on.

“If the big gamble is to go all the way to November 2020, which I agree, and lose — it’s the end of democracy,” Daniels added.

Psst, hey Jeff. You’re not Atticus Finch. You’re an actor making believe. FYI.

Now they want open borders and want to drop the financial burden for millions of illegals on American citizens and their children.

Now they want murderers to vote.

Now they want to kill babies even after birth.

And late at night, Adam Schiff still dreams of getting his hands on those nude pictures of Donald Trump.

What happened to the democrat party? What caused them to take this wretched sharp left turn off the cliff? Why have they turned on America?

What caused them to lose their minds?

 

 

 

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@Richard Wheeler:

The AG is not supposed to be in the back pocket of the POTUS—Wrong with Holder –wrong with Barr.

The AG is supposed to, among other things, defend the Office of the Presidency, no matter who is president.
Remind me again how you complained about Eric Holder. Oh, that’s right…..you didn’t.

O5–Never heard of Warren Wilhelm??

Do you live in a cave?

In addition to whatever else he might have been McCarthy was a bad drunk and died in pain.

Continue with the myth. I assume you have never read Blacklisted by History. One thing about you libs, tell you a lie you like and you will defend that lie till Hell freezes over.

You all accuse Obama of treason—–Bull Shit

The word “all” being inclusive. I have never accused Obama of treason, but lying about conservatives seems to be your forte.

BTW, it’s Y’all, not YOU ALL.

@kitt: Unlike others on here I’m not smearing any Marines–he died of acute hepatitis–he was an alcoholic a disease.
Where have I defended any ACTUAL communists—unlike ol bone spurs I fought REAL, not imagined commies, up close and personal.

@kitt:

You like to smear a fellow Marine?

McCarthy is off-limits because he was a Marine?

@Richard Wheeler:

Unlike others on here I’m not smearing any Marines–he died of acute hepatitis–he was an alcoholic a disease.

McCarthy was NOT an alcoholic. Why do you continue to propagate a lie?

Where have I defended any ACTUAL communists—

Never said you defended any ACTUAL communists. You just vote for them, i.e. Bernie Sanders, who you admitted to voting for in the 2016 California primary.

But I guess in your mind voting for a Communist is OK as long as you don’t defend them.

@retire05: FYI my 103 was
response to Kitt’s 102— but thanks for playing..

@Richard Wheeler: There was never a legally required autopsy it was refused twice, so the dying of acute hepatitis unproven, he went to the hospital for knee pain the official lies about Tailgunner just dont wash. He was only 48 years old.
I say Obama is a commie so did he, in his book, I say Obama was treasonous so does the former President of Argentina in front of the entire UN.
https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-president-of-argentina-reveals-obama..
Are those the actions of a Patriot?
We got damn lucky the hag wasnt elected, and Barr will show us how lucky.

@Richard Wheeler:

Apparently you don’t know how an open forum works.

No surprise.

@kitt: Pres of Argentina lol
Pls give me exact quote where BHO said he was a communist.
That overhead whir keeping you up at night?
Re Joe’s alcoholism—if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck———-died of a bad knee at 48?–really

Where has Sanders said he’s a Communist?

@Richard Wheeler:

Re Joe’s alcoholism—if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck———-

Guess then we can continue to claim that Obama was a Communist since he surrounded himself with Communists, in the mode of FDR?

Like I said; tell you leftists a lie you like and you will defend that lie till Hell freezes over.

Next thing you will be telling us JFK was a bastion of morals and Teddy Kennedy was a stand up guy who just happened to let a woman die.

@retire05: I’m gonna tell you what I believe to be true—no more –no less
“Suburban women coming back to Trump” Believe in 2018 You made some wild claims about female voters fealty to Trump–didn’t happen then. Certainly won’t happen in 2020–he has real trouble getting to 40%

KISS generally works well

Kitt You got that quote from BHO—how bout Bernie?
Feel free to jump in O5

You gals buying we got an “extremely stable genius” at the helm?

@Richard Wheeler: You would have to crack a book
In the autobiography, Obama reveals that he was close to many Communists and anti-American activists throughout his formative years and while he was a community organizer in Chicago, such as Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. He surrounded himself with communists Van Jones, Brennen, Comey, Anita Dunn.
The leftist Democrat Party a perfect fit for him.

@Greg:

Let’s point out another: Democrats are engaging a witch hunt rather than tending to the business of the country.

Uh… no. That is EXACTLY what they are doing and HAVE been doing since Trump was elected. I refer you back to the “mountain” of “proof” all the Democrats had “at their fingertips” clearly proving Trump’s collusion with the Russians… which all simply vanished and was forgotten. THAT is what your whiny Democrats have been “investigating”. There has been no crime, there is no suspicion, there is no credible accusation… just a fantasy to conjure up some excuse to remove Trump from office because none of the idiots you have running against him have a chance to present a better option to the American people. Socialism is a failure and will not be the choice. You’ll need a more successful coup.

@Richard Wheeler: The AG defends the Constitution. In case you are confused, using information invented by Russians working directly for Putin to justify spying on an opposition Presidential campaign and then using the same false information to try and depose a duly elected President kind of infringes on the Constitution… a little bit. It is very important to find out how such an onerous coup was hatched and punish those involved for the very survival of the Constitution and our government.

It just so happens Trump and Barr are on the same side: THE LAW.

You all accuse Obama of treason—–Bull Shit

So, explain to me if you agree with the many Democrats that accuse Trump of treason?

You don’t really care about facts, do you? You just repeat whatever comes out of Trump’s mouth, and blindly support anything he does, no matter how nonsensical.

What are you going to say if Trump’s wholesale declassification of intelligence community documents and Barr’s eagerness to please his boss gets our inside sources in Putin’s circle murdered? Maybe you should get something ready, because Barr isn’t qualified to know what seemingly irrelevant bits of information could blow somebody’s cover.

How do you think Obama got wind of the Russian election meddling operation early on? The intelligence community very likely has one or more inside Russian sources.

@Greg:

Barr isn’t qualified to know what seemingly irrelevant bits of information could blow somebody’s cover.

Well, maybe he should ask you because, obviously, you think you are the sharpest knife in the drawer and much smarter than a preeminent Constitutional attorney who is doing his second tour as AG.

How do you think Obama got wind of the Russian election meddling operation early on?

You don’t know? Whoa, I thought you were the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Obviously not.

@Greg: There are proper procedures for declassification which will be followed to the letter, this is not going to be a speedy process. Dont worry about it your media wont report to you any horrible facts, they havent so far so we will go by their track record.
The departments listed to cooperate are odd, that will become clearer in time.
If I remember correctly the Dems were begging O to declassify the FBI investigation , they seem to have changed their minds as the connections to Stinky and Barry were found.
They are trying to get ahead of this by calling it a conspiracy theory, an old term used by the CIA to discredit anyone not believing the government story.
Nothing to worry about if the FBI didnt lie to the court involve allied spy agencies to spy on Trumps team or set them up . The CIA plant spies with listening devices and transcripts are found. Barr and Trump are just curious, but a little suspicious.

@kitt: You didn’t answer my request for quotes from Obama or Sanders because they don’t exist–why do you need to make stuff up Kitt? I read Obama’s book–you didn’t.

Deplorable I have not accused DT of treason—agree with Mueller that he did obstruct justice–I agree with all who say he’s a scumbag for involvement in the doctored Pelosi video

@Richard Wheeler: Now who is making stuff up? Mueller never clearly said Trump obstructed justice.
How do you know Trump had anything to do with the video wheres your proof, it was circulating on facebook, not exactly a secret source for Rudy to tweet it.
Greg was mistaken Trump tweeted out a Fox clip not the altered video in question.
I have much more proof Barry was a commie, his parents communist, his grand parents dear pals with his communist mentor. Surrounded himself with communists and domestic terrorists. Which of his books did you read? Who was Frank in his book mentioned numerous times?

@retire05, #115:

You don’t know? Whoa, I thought you were the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I just suggested where the information may have originated. Did you have anything intelligent to say about that possibility?

Actually, I’m not sure the President can touch someone on the head with his Magic Fairy Wand and confer on them the power to declassify another agency’s classified material. Did he check with anyone on that? Maybe he could get Barr or Mnuchin’s opinion.

@Greg: Yes he has the authority each of the agencies named is under the executive branch. “It is an expression of presidential authority, and that means that the president and his designees decide what is classified.
Clinton made an executive order requiring automatic declassification of many documents after 25 years.
But what would these great men of honor have to hide? You worry too much Greg everything was done by the book legally, right?

@Greg:

I just suggested where the information may have originated. Did you have anything intelligent to say about that possibility?

You said:

How do you think Obama got wind of the Russian election meddling operation early on?

You didn’t suggest how he got wind of the Russian collusion delusion, so I thought you were going to tell us in your ever expert way. Being the sharpest knife in the drawer, and all.

Actually, I’m not sure the President can touch someone on the head with his Magic Fairy Wand and confer on them the power to declassify another agency’s classified material.

The President has the power to declassify anything he wants and the power to direct others to declassify anything he wants.

I know a president can declassify, as all of the agencies and departments are under his authority. But can he confer the power onto the head of the DoJ to declassify material under the authority and control of the CIA? I have serious doubts about that.

The Director of the CIA might tell Barr and his Unitary Executive Theory to take a hike. Haspel is a Trump appointee, but she’s also a 30-year CIA veteran. I’m guessing she’s agency-mission oriented. These people take their oaths seriously.

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

There’s nothing there about obeying the orders of the Commander in Chief.

@Greg:

I know a president can declassify, as all of the agencies and departments are under his authority. But can he confer the power onto the head of the DoJ to declassify material under the authority and control of the CIA? I have serious doubts about that.

Yep.

@retire05, #121:

You said:

How do you think Obama got wind of the Russian election meddling operation early on?

You didn’t suggest how he got wind of the Russian collusion delusion, so I thought you were going to tell us in your ever expert way.

Actually, I said more than that, if you’l look back at the post, and the sort of source I was referring to seems clear to me. It’s not a riddle.

@retire05, #123:

I think not. I guess we can either flip a coin, or wait to see what happens when Barr starts demanding classified CIA documents saying he has a note from Donald.

@Greg: Navy v. Egan, 484 US 518 (1988), and it is consistent with the historical fact that classification and declassification decisions have been made by the President
Currently governing order, E.O. 13292 (amending E.O. 12958, as amended), seems to be best read not to limit the President’s own declassification authority.
It does not say in that EO that heads of departments can say no.

@Greg:

The intelligence community very likely has one or more inside Russian sources.

If that is the case, that can be redacted to protect the source. That is, until the Democrats get a hold of it. They love outing people with nary a thought of the damage they might do.

@kitt: KISS—Last time –where did he ever say he was communist? NEVAH HAPPENED–
We all know Rudy’s an idiot—actually so is his sidekick Trump–couple of blabbering lying fools.if truth be told.
Of course Mueller said there was obstruction–you know this–.he said it very “clearly”lol

Why do you continue to defend Trump’s lies? Repubs are bailing on him—slowly but most definitely surely–you gonna go down holding on to him??

@Rich Wheeler: Please point out which lie I defended.

@retire05: The declassification letter itself is interesting , Department of Energy, has spooks ?
https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-memorandum-on-agency-cooperation-with-attorney-1834993466

@Greg:

What are you going to say if Trump’s wholesale declassification of intelligence community documents and Barr’s eagerness to please his boss gets our inside sources in Putin’s circle murdered? Maybe you should get something ready, because Barr isn’t qualified to know what seemingly irrelevant bits of information could blow somebody’s cover.

That is perhaps the weakest excuse for an excuse I have ever seen. First, I have every confidence that if there are human assets identified in any of those memos, they will be protected. After all, this isn’t Hillary making all our information available to the Chinese, who wiped out our assets there. Next, what assets would that be? Those trying to verify the information in the dossier? No one attempted. Those collecting the information? Well, THEY worked for Putin. So, take it easy; no US assets were involved. It ALL came from Russians.

No, your main concern is having the truth revealed. That is NOT going to be good for the Democrats and the rest of the coup.

How do you think Obama got wind of the Russian election meddling operation early on?

Well, it wasn’t from Putin’s associates, which is where the dossier came from. Why didn’t Obama do anything to stop Putin? Why did Obama order a stand down on efforts to block Putin’s efforts? How about answering THAT question?

@Richard Wheeler:

Deplorable I have not accused DT of treason—agree with Mueller that he did obstruct justice–I agree with all who say he’s a scumbag for involvement in the doctored Pelosi video

So those calling Trump a traitor are liars? Why would you support them? By the way, Mueller did not determine Trump obstructed justice; he said he couldn’t because the evidence was not clear. If Trump had obstructed justice, he would have said so. Since he was on a mission to confirm Trump committed SOME crime, he could not clear the President simply because there was no evidence of a crime.

@retire05:

You didn’t suggest how he got wind of the Russian collusion delusion, so I thought you were going to tell us in your ever expert way. Being the sharpest knife in the drawer, and all.

Why, there was MOUNTAINS of evidence, laying around like turds on San Francisco streets, that showed beyond any possible doubt that Trump colluded with the Russians… until there wasn’t. This is the kind of crap these crybabies base their accusations and suspicions on and when when one collapses into an embarrassing pile of absolutely nothing, they just move along to the next fantasy. Now, releasing information is a “cover-up”. Liberal-think.

@kitt: DT claimed the Mueller report totally exonerated him—-while Mueller specifically wrote the report DID NOT exonerate the POTUS–
Waiting for where BHO said he was a Communist—book and page will suffice.
How bout Sanders—where has HE said he was a Communist?

Anyone else been in combat with ACTUAL Communists? Donald sure dodged em.

@Richard Wheeler: Like you said if it walks like a duck. In his book does he say he went to music concerts or communist gatherings?
Why would a person go to more than 1 if he wasnt feeling it? If you want to say socialist, fine I see no difference in the ideology.
There are way too many commies left over so you can quit bragging. Creepy Joe got 5 deferments, think you will vote for him? Mr. Biden never mentions his asthma, recounting an active childhood, work as a lifeguard and football exploits in high school.

@Richard Wheeler:

: DT claimed the Mueller report totally exonerated him—-while Mueller specifically wrote the report DID NOT exonerate the POTUS–

If, after two years and $34 million dollars he could not CONFIRM Trump committed any crime, he fully, totally, unambiguously and thoroughly exonerated Trump.

One thing we know for certain; Obama pledged to Putin to do whatever he wanted; more “flexible” in coward-speak.

@Deplorable Me: I know no charges were suggested by the report. If the fools want a fantasy just leave them alone in the locked bathroom, they only impress themselves.

@kitt: Well we agree BHO never said he was a Communist–he wasn’t—how bout Bernie?
Socialism, as you know, is not Communism.
Not bragging–but people like Joe M. making false claims hurt a lot of people.
Say again—Mueller report DID NOT exonerate DT—–and many Trumpists including Manafort, Flynn, Stone and JR. MET with Russians during the campaign

Do any of you believe .Putin and cohorts DIDN’T prefer DT over the hated HRC who had declared Putin’s victory an illegal sham?

For the record—If Biden lied about asthma to avoid military service I will not support his candidacy

@Richard Wheeler: Bern baby is nothing but a snut commie lover, honeymoon in Moscow, lets hold hands in the breadline baby.
So the difference between socialist and commie is?
Both think the government should run your life cause you are to stupid, enslave with controlled wages. Promise utopia and give you starvation.
Take your Mueller report in the bathroom and wank with the other Dem morons, I dont need to read about your fantasy. The “did not exonerate” has no legal meaning, no charges recommended is the reality take away.

@Richard Wheeler:

Do any of you believe .Putin and cohorts DIDN’T prefer DT over the hated HRC who had declared Putin’s victory an illegal sham..

I do. Wholeheartedly and enthusiastically. Because, Hillary has sprinkled blackmail fodder everywhere she has been. Perhaps Putin may have wanted to test Trump, but he would be assured that he could blackmail Hillary to be “more flexible” and, failing that, could bribe her. I have no doubt Putin (or any other adversary) didn’t want Hillary. They could also count on her proven incompetency.

If they wanted Trump, they sure miscalculated greatly.

@Deplorable Me: It makes no difference what Putin or any other world leader wanted we voted, not them. Thinking someone can be swayed by a meme or an ad and not the constant bashing of our own media shadow banning of the other candidates, 1.3billion in Hillary ads that is simply nutz.

@kitt:

Thinking someone can be swayed by a meme or an ad and not the constant bashing of our own media shadow banning of the other candidates, 1.3billion in Hillary ads that is simply nutz.

Keep in mind, liberals subsist on propaganda. Many cannot compose a sentence until they have received their daily dose of indoctrination. Remember, when Saturday Night Live ran a skit with an actor playing Sarah Palin, they actually believed SHE said she could see Russia from her house. They get their hard news from Colbert and Noah. No matter how many times they are lied to, they still believe the next lie out of their handlers’ mouths.

Hell, this morning I saw a clip from MSNBC where an interviewer asked O’Rourke how they could do a better job covering him. That is the kind of cooperation that goes on between the media and Democrats and those who subsist on their drivel enjoy being stupid.

I’ve been a political junkie since the early 60’s. I have never seen anything comparing to the cult of personality Trump devotees of today. Talk about brain dead. This unhinged minority would follow Trump off a cliff if he so directed.
Jim Jones had nothing on The Donald.

DEP—- Didn’t need Tina Fey on SNL to remind us just how wacky Sarah really was.

@Richard Wheeler: So, you DID want Hillary.

@Deplorable Me: Hillary was a mess—-worst Dem candidate since Dukakis—I blame her for the election of Trump.
In good conscience I couldn’t vote for either.

@Rich Wheeler: See, this is what makes no sense. We agree on Hillary; she should never have been allowed to be President of the United States. However, the choice was between her, a demonstrated criminal and enemy of the state, and Trump. Many voted FOR Trump, but many also voted AGAINST Hillary. No, writing in Webb was not going to keep Hillary out of the White House; nothing but a Trump victory was going to keep Hillary out of the White House. NOTHING.

You don’t like Trump? Blame your goddamn corrupt party, not me or anyone else who voted for Trump to keep that scumbag trash out of the White House.

Trump didn’t collude with Russians to win. He hasn’t betrayed the country. He has restored the economy. He has helped veterans. He is TRYING to secure the border and protect Americans. He has done NOTHING to deserve the ongoing harassment the Democrats have concentrated on him, in lieu of doing anything constructive. THAT is the threat to the nation.

Don’t like Trump? Pick a better candidate and, I tell you, among 24 choices, you don’t have a single one to choose from. That ain’t Trump’s fault, either.

@Richard Wheeler: Here is the full Mueller report. Point out exactly where Mueller said he obstructed justice. If you can’t show it to us, you lied.

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5955997-Muellerreport

@Richard Wheeler:

I have never seen anything comparing to the cult of personality Trump devotees of today.

Really? Were you in a coma for the 8 years of Obama’s reign? And even before that when for four years David Axelrod took a freshman Senator who had no real accomplishments to speak of and made a political rock star out of him?

For over 8 years the American press could find nothing that Obama did wrong. Not since Thomas Jefferson has the press attacked a president like they have Trump, yet, even with the advances he has made in medical care choices for our veterans, you can not show him one ounce of respect. You wail and moan how Trump never served, yet admit you voted in the California primary for Communist Bernie Sanders, who not only did not serve, but should have been prosecuted for giving aid and support to an American enemy.

@another vet: @another vet: Mueller stated “If we had confidence that after a thorough investigation that the President did not commit obstruction of justice we would so state. Based on the facts we were NOT ABLE to so state.
Mueller STATED there was no conspiracy—He pointed out the obvious instances of obstruction—-telling Mcgahn-sic to fire Mueller and telling Sessions to tell SP to limit scope of investigation were just 2 of many cases of obstruction spelled out in Mueller’s report
He was clearly upset with Barr’s ridiculous 4 page “exoneration”

This is not over—Mueller will testify and dispute Barrs “findings” .

@Rich Wheeler: The scope of any investigation should be limited and clear. The investigation was never obstructed, wanting to and doing so are 2 different things.The President did become frustrated as he and his team were innocent of conspiracy. He had to see his team and family grilled for hours. Set up for perjury traps, Cohen was dumb enough to not be fully candid, may have been trying to sell access to the President, like a manager, dont expect Trump to feel sorry for the idiot.
It will be interesting to see Mueller testify, I dont think he wants to, they knew the dossier was unverified garbage before the investigation. He most likely had spying transcripts and plenty of exculpatory evidence. His Russian, Mifsud was a western asset.
Have a wonderful long weekend everyone time to open camp for the year.

@kitt: You are saying DT attempted to obstruct justice but his attorney and A.G. stopped him in at least the two examples given—for which they were verbally whipped. and eventually fired. OK Interesting take

@Rich Wheeler:

You cherry picked as usual. The full conclusion:

“Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgement, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgement. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgement. Based on the facts and applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

You stated Mueller concluded PT obstructed justice. The report clearly stated:

1. They did not draw a conclusion.

2. They were unable to reach judgment.

3. They did not conclude PT committed a crime.

Your original statement was a L I E.