I joined the military at 18, and having served 20 years I have seen a great part of the world we live in. Some of it was good, some of it not so much. I have fond memories of my time in the service. I was fortunate enough to give to my country. One of the first memories that I have occurred in boot camp in Camp Barry in North Chicago. The history we were shown about our country from the founding fathers to the formation of the first U. S. Navy will always be a guiding point of my life. One of the courses I remember the most was a course entitled “Rights and Responsibility”. In that course I was taught that the rights we enjoy in this, the most exceptional country in the world, were God given. I learned that those rights also came with responsibilities that must be adhered to. Those responsibilities are laid out in our founding documents, the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
One of those rights was the 2nd Amendment. The enforcement of the 2nd Amendment was for innumerable reasons, from hunting for food, to self defense, to the ability to overthrow a tyrannical government as set forth by our Founding Fathers.
The ability of our citizens to keep the guns that our Federal law have given them without question are now under attack by many who are fearful of guns. The progressive socialists and leftists quaintly call it “Gun Safety” with the full intent on working even further to confiscate the firearms that the citizens hold.
We find ourselves after another school shooting that the progressive socialists once again raise voices over the bodies of the victims. Not mentioned is the total breakdown of federal and local enforcement that could have kept Nikolas Cruz from getting any firearms. We now have children who will be traumatized for the rest of their lives for something that could have been prevented.
It was the PROMISE ACT implemented by Obama and his contempt of court Attorney General that set this massacre in motion. Because they were concerned about what they called a disproportionate number of blacks in prison they started the Promise Act to break the classroom to prison train. All it did was require that schools in the country allow violent and mentally ill students to harass the other students without fear of arrest . Nikolas Cruz was one of those students. All of this was done so that schools could get more federal funds.
One of the most vociferous agitators is a survivor of the shooting in Parkland. He has taken to speaking for all the students of the school and has pushed himself forward to be a strident voice for the victims. Although he has been all over the airwaves from CNN and MSNBC to late night shows to do nothing more than to force on citizens the progressive socialist talking points of gun control. There have been many of other survivors of the Parkland shooting who disagree with his anti-gun position, and they, like everyone else who disagrees with him have been shouted down and ridiculed for disagreeing with him.
Working with such groups as MoveOn.org, Planned Parenthood, and others, he has taken to making demands that are superfluous and meaningless.
Who is David Hogg and why should we care? He seems to think he is now a policy expert and can arrange for his thoughts and opinions to be taken seriously. How many times have you heard him on CNN or MSNBC slandering those who disagree with him or heard him say “I am not going to allow”. My first thought is who the hell does he think he is. The son of a supposed FBI agent father and a VIP mother who works for CNN (his own words) what makes him any more expert just because he was in the building next to where the shooting occurred? His condescending attitude and his inability to see past the myopic preening group that are his handlers is self serving. His present course will allow him to move forward in his future plans as either a journalist of politician, another progressive leftists that can lie easily and do nothing more than push the Alinsky principles forward. He is the perfect “victim” he can say and demean anyone he likes and lie about facts and can do it with impunity because he can always fall back on being a “victim”. Any who call out his lies or his demeaning of others will be set upon by the socialists who are cheering him on.
I find it informative that he has spoken in derogatory terms of Gov. Rick Scott and President Trump with absolutely no understanding of what actually happened. He needs to learn his civics and take a government class. The incompetent Broward Country Sherriff was not hired by the Governor but an elected official elected by the people within the county. Hogg does not mention that This same sheriff was in Chicago and an advocate for the PROMISE program mentioned above and a big Obama supporter before bringing his incompetence to Parkland.
David Hogg has called the NRA “child murderers” and has spoken about Dana Loesch being a bad mother. Once again the subject that he rants about is in a word ignorant and a lie. The NRA is a non-profit that does nothing more than safety training and protection of our 2nd Amendment rights. He talks of forcing corporations to sever ties with the NRA and yet can’t explain how that will help the situation. Neither CNN or MSNBC will stand up to a young man who wants the opportunity to be a victim and activist and allow him to wallow in his self serving political agenda. And who in their right mind think that according to Hogg’s PR firm that he has more credibility that the NRA or Dana Loesch.
This isn’t to say that David Hogg shouldn’t have a voice. I admit and will willingly listen to his ideas that may alleviate the gun challenges that we face, but hot when his main claim to fame is doing nothing more that demaning others, trying to discredit others and what is nothing more than a child stomping his feet to get others to agree with him. If he finds himself willing to talk with others on a equal basis, andlisten as well as speak perhaps there can be progress made.
Not that he will listen, but a few suggestions for Hogg and his followers:
- The NRA is a powerful organizations, but it is a fallacy that the “buy” politicians. This is a talking point that is nothing more than a “dog whistle” to the gun grabbers. Look at the list about who contributes and lobbies our government. You will find that the NRA are not even in the top 50 and barely makes the Top 100. If you want to say they are “buying” politicians, would it not be true to say the Planned Parenthood as well. (They are in the Top 10.) Would not that also be the murder of children? Attempting to mobilize the population against its 5 million members and those that are not members but those who are in agreement with the NRA’s policies is a tactic that will not succeed in pushing the anti-gun agenda. The NRA is instrumental in lobbying aginst the insufferable taxation, legislation and regulation that the anti-gun cabal will attempt to use to make guns and the privacy of owning one a thing of the
- The media is behind you in the furthering of anti-gun propaganda, and Hogg has told one representative that thy will win because “we will outlive you”. Does he really think that the population and future voters will ALL agree with him? More and more people are agreeing with the NRA, no matter what lies you tell. Even some of your sycophants that are with you know will grow older and more conservative. You may very well find you mob rule backers being winnowed away when they get older and learn more. Even now, more than two thirds of voters blame the government failures that allowed this to happen.
- Because you feel that you can espouse your thoughts and demands on the fact that you were a victim is irrelevant. If you are going to pontificate your testimony to the nodding heads of the mainstream media without pushback you are sadly mistaken. Calling the NRA child murderers, and calling for boycotts will be of little effect. You will find that your mass movement will be trickle compared to what you will face. You are not a “Lion” as you have called yourself, and the media has anointed you to be the “voice of change”. While I agree that there needs to be change, it will not be forced on the American people.
You have forced yourself into the political discourse that you know little about. You have bullied others and demeaned others for the simple fact that they disagree with you. This country does not respond well to demands made by someone who has little experience in the real world legislative, constitutional and historical perspective. And be forewarned, you have forced yourself into the arena of politics and you have no right to make demands of others whether corporations of individuals.
And one more final thought. The United Sates is NOT a broken Democracy. Our country was founded as a Republic and is not broken but bent out of shape by those who would destroy it. It is dented because of people like David Hogg who rant and rave and insults those who disagree and of course his progressive socialist enablers and handlers. If you have something to say show it with facts and offer a way to make things better. But screaming or threatening those who disagree with you is not the answer, It is time you learn that.
And no, I am not an NRA member, and whether I own guns or not is not for anyone to know. That is my right under the 2nd Amendment.
Retired military, 20 years of service, retired last April from a warehouse position at NEOPOST. I live is So, California with my wife, two dogs, and one anti social cat. I am a veteran, entrepreneur, writer, and write on the subjects of race, terrorism, the economy, and climate change.
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he isnt interested in listening to you
He is a useful idiot in training. He is learning how to be a liberal tool, a prop to promote the leftist agenda. He is being taught to ignore facts and truth and remain straight and true on the liberal course.
Once again, the axiom of “If you want to know what the Democrats are doing, listen to what they are accusing the opposition of doing” holds true. They are bought and paid for by Planned Parenthood, who advocates breaking the law, abortion over adoption and waiting to get the abortion when the marketable body parts are at optimum development. Yet, they care about the safety of children.
Hogg is just another Useful Idiot being used by the Useless Nations the Communists News Network(CNN)and the Democratic party all to serve Big Brother i have no sympathy for this fool and the leftists using him as tool
P.S. You whiney lil piss pants tell them to harden the power grid, if hit by an EMP or CME no one will be able to see your ignorant pimple face. On the lighter side without self protection you and your kind will be dead in a matter of weeks.
David Hogg is a total jerk the NRA has never killed anybody and what dose he think(if he dose)about the Child Killers from Planned Parenthood and will some Hollywood director make a movie about him and i can tell this little snot bucket that if it were not for guns he would be either a british subject or living under the nazis and he might be living in a Consentration camp HEY HOGG ALL IN FAVOR OF GUN CONTROL RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AMD A;; IN FAVOR OF GUN CONTROL RAISE YOUR LEFT FIST becuase either way you would probibly be dead and my late father and Three Uncles(All Deseiced)did’nt fight a war(WW II)just so you can show your a total idiot
David Hogg is considered by Washington State, Fred Meyer (Kroeger), and Walmart to not be mature or responsible enough to purchase long guns. He must wait and develop more wisdom and maturity until he is 21.
So, if he is not mature enough to purchase a long gun, how is he mature enough to be a “leader” in this cause?
Just look at him!
David Hogg has given up HIS guns, so should we all?
Just because he has thin little stick arms when a male would have biceps is not as strong an argument as he thinks it is.
@Nanny G: Has anyone researched his graduation in 2015 from a Californian HS?
@Nanny G: He should be on a terrorist watch list. Anyone that colludes with Soros/MoveON.org, who finance and organize riots and violence, should be classified as a terrorist.
If we really want to identify and cull out threats, regardless of what rights we may violate, we should start with the known threats. Soros nor anyone in his employ should be allowed to own weapons.
hogg’s mother is a big anti-Trump blogger and has ties to msnba. this POS was prepped for this moment and supported my the media and money. ever wonder how a lone POS escalated to the crisis actor??
Are him and his fellow Useful Idiots planning another so called Million Mom March events or in this case a Bunch of Useful idiots march and will he be appearing on some liberal talk show or news program and sit and yammer his head off
@kitt:
I understand that it has been verified that he was at the shooting at the Church in South Carolina, the High School shooting in Ca and the one in Florida. Someone is obviously coordinating his schedule with the shooters schedule if these are all true.
Recent photos of David Hogg with his right arm raised high and with clenched fist and un-informed points of view and demanding what he thinks is correct , reminds me of another ,Hitler.David looks like a young Hitler in the photos.
David Hogg is, in my opinion, is a punk,trying to capitalize on a terrible crime by a mad man, Well, now that we have raised the age to purchase any firearm to 21 (in Florida) and alcohol is 21.
Let’s be consistent and raise the voting age to 21.
@Dennis Devlin: And, as all the other liberals are doing, on command, he conveniently ignores that actual failures that led to the the tragedy at Parkland.
. No one deserves to lose employment for calling someone a whiner. When Ingraham apologized that should have been the end of this hate circus, Instead punk Hogg like little Moses parting the seas demanded advertisers pull from Ingrahams show and morons did it. Shame on the parents of this punk for not instilling in their kid that he would gain respect had he accepted that apology.Hogg is no longer about a school shooting but a political agenda backed and pushed by his parents and other adults. Daddy is an ex FBI agent and mommy works for CNN, Hogg thinks he can do anything. He has placed himself in an adult political arena and is eligible for criticism. Besides no 17 year old is a baby in diapers not a child. They are eligible to register to vote.Hogg is a spoiled, insolent, self centered thug. There is hardly better description for him.Look for him to join the communist party in the future, or form his own nazi group. I am past sick of the dispicable punk.
The only reason David Hogg continues to get media attention is because the right continues to obsess about him. Ingraham certainly boosted his ratings.
@Greg: So you feel his point of view and opinions have no value as well?
He has every right to express his opinion, but there are more articulate and less controversial spokesmen for it—most of whom the right ignores, because they’re less easy targets for juvenile, ad hominem attacks.
@Greg: No one denies he has the right to his opinion or to express someone else’s as if it were his own. This means he is fair game for anyone wanting to hold him accountable for his opinions OR his whiny belly-aching whenever he has to endure a little slice of real life.
However, you seem to imply here that no one should concern themselves with his opinions, no matter how many let wing propaganda outlets promote him as a spokesperson, because he actually has nothing to say.
@Greg: You talking about little Piggie?
If we are going to look at David Hogg as the front man for this latest anti-gun push, what has he wrought?
A 100% increase in concealed carry licenses!
And more gun sales than many other bumps in sales in past years.
When more law-abiding Americans own guns and know how to use them, crime stats go down.
@Redteam, #20:
Are you quoting Lord of the Flies?
@Greg: Doubtful, since Hoggie exhibits more of the characteristics of Jack than the hapless Piggy.
David-My son &nephew are police officers.I’ve seen them come home & lay their gun on the table to open their gunsafe. Neither gun jumped off the table &went out to kill! Why is that, do you think? Also,knives have become the weapon of choice., & here,cars have purposely killed many. So, after “auditioning “ for your acting career, go out&snatch up all knives . Then boycott car sales. Sound crazy? No more than striking our 2nd .Criminals always have guns& victims will have none. We can see why colleges don’t want you.I personally think you’re an entitled brat who should have been taken behind the woodshed until you’d learned a little respect for our country & the men(one was my father) who died so you could rant &be obnoxious .why aren’t you all over law enforcment who had 23 warnings. The problem lies there, not guns. Get those suffering with mental problems health professional The problem starts there—and you know it!
@Anita Blice: Little Hoggie is in for a rude awakening once the left is through with him.