Democrats have opened Pandora’s box (bumped)


Post originally posted June 27th, 2017

The story:

As a wedding present, Zeus gave Pandora a box (in ancient Greece this was called a jar) but warned her never to open it. Pandora, who was created to be curious, couldn’t stay away from the box and the urge to open the box overcame her. Horrible things flew out of the box including greed, envy, hatred, pain, disease, hunger, poverty, war, and death. All of life’s miseries had been let out into the world. Pandora slammed the lid of the box back down. The last thing remaining inside of the box was hope. Ever since, humans have been able to hold onto this hope in order to survive the wickedness that Pandora had let out.

I also considered titling this post  “The Democrat party retreat from the Russian Front” as that it is now what it is transpiring. After nearly a year of baseless accusations against Donald Trump of colluding with the Russians, people are growing weary of it. The country sees that democrats have no message other than hate. They’ve bet their fortunes on hate and now have lost election after election riding that horse. It’s gotten so bad that the democrat rank and file has had enough and is asking their leaders to back off.

But rank-and-file Democrats say the Russia-Trump narrative is simply a non-issue with district voters, who are much more worried about bread-and-butter economic concerns like jobs, wages and the cost of education and healthcare.

In the wake of a string of special-election defeats, an increasing number of Democrats are calling for an adjustment in party messaging, one that swings the focus from Russia to the economy. The outcome of the 2018 elections, they say, hinges on how well the Democrats manage that shift.

“We can’t just talk about Russia because people back in Ohio aren’t really talking that much about Russia, about Putin, about Michael Flynn,” Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) told MSNBC Thursday. “They’re trying to figure out how they’re going to make the mortgage payment, how they’re going to pay for their kids to go to college, what their energy bill looks like.

That may prove to be the least of their concerns. The bloody FBI was willing to pay $50,000 to a shadowy group for a discredited dossier that was supposed to bring Trump down. Now that group is stonewalling investigators:

The Senate Judiciary Committee earlier this month threatened to subpoena the firm, Fusion GPS, after it refused to answer questions and provide records to the panel identifying who financed the error-ridden dossier, which was circulated during the election and has sparked much of the Russia scandal now engulfing the White House.

What is the company hiding? Fusion GPS describes itself as a “research and strategic intelligence firm” founded by “three former Wall Street Journal investigative reporters.” But congressional sources say it’s actually an opposition-research group for Democrats, and the founders, who are more political activists than journalists, have a pro-Hillary Clinton, anti-Trump agenda.

“These weren’t mercenaries or hired guns,” a congressional source familiar with the dossier probe said. “These guys had a vested personal and ideological interest in smearing Trump and boosting Hillary’s chances of winning the White House.”

Fusion GPS was on the payroll of an unidentified Democratic ally of Clinton when it hired a long-retired British spy to dig up dirt on Trump. In 2012, Democrats hired Fusion GPS to uncover dirt on GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. And in 2015, Democratic ally Planned Parenthood retained Fusion GPS to investigate pro-life activists protesting the abortion group.

Fusion GPS ended up shelling out $250,000 to Steele. The entire collusion/investigation was premised entirely on a fraud.

And now, finally, the attention is being turned to where it should always have been– on Barack Obama. This is something about which I’ve been writing since January.

It is amusing that democrats routinely berate Trump as being Putin’s pal when it is obama who has been Putin’s b*tch for the last eight years. Never mind that obama has interfered in elections both in the UK and in Israel. In 2012 obama promised to be more “flexible” for “Vlad” and since then he has taken it up the wazoo for Putin.

obama didn’t react to any of Russia’s actions- whether it was the Ukraine, Crimea, buzzing ships and aircraft, or hacking US assets. Now he musters a half-assed response after an election he fully expected to go for clinton and only because she lost and he needs badly to save face. Had she won, this would not even be a story the media would care about. obama has done nothing but project weakness around the world and has emboldened these actions against us.

THAT is what should be irritating you.

Obama knew about Russian hacking efforts since 2015 and did essentially nothing. Now as the collusion fantasy evaporates, Adam Schiff, searching for a way to salvage his reputation, has turned on Obama:

President Obama’s decision to not act sooner on Russian election interference last year was “a very serious mistake,” says California Rep. Adam Schiff.

“I think the administration needed to call out Russia earlier, and needed to act to deter and punish Russia earlier and I think that was a very serious mistake,” Schiff said in an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday.

Schiff, the top ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said that Obama was hesitant to confront Russia over its active measures campaign for fear of being seen as helping Hillary Clinton and of fueling Donald Trump’s allegations that the election was being “rigged” against him.

“But both of those factors did not outweigh…the public’s need to know” about Russia’s hacking, Schiff said.

“The American people needed to know,” he added.

Damn right they needed to know. Damn right it was a mistake. We also need to know why Obama has been so astonishingly soft on Russia for eight years. Exactly what was he promising Putin in the flexibility? Why wasn’t Russia the “yuge” enemy under obama that it suddenly became once Donald Trump was the GOP candidate?

There has been zero evidence produced showing any collusion between Donald Trump, his campaign and Russia. There is evidence that Barack Obama knew about the threat long before Donald Trump was the candidate, let alone President. The really big question is, why didn’t he do a thing about it? The Washington Post reports that Obama had a laundry list of possible retaliations against Russia but chose impotence instead. One excuse for the lack of response was so he would not tip his hand as to secret methods being used. In their zealous attempt to defend Obama, WaPo has chosen to go ahead and leak those techniques which apparently have been offered up by Obama holdovers.

A recent Washington Post story disclosed classified secrets as part of a larger story about Obama administration cyber efforts against Russia. It was published days after a New York Times story, which revealed details of a secret Israeli cyber operation that Trump is said to have leaked to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

The sensitivity of the material being leaked has heightened criticism both of the former Obama officials who are suspected of unveiling these secrets and of the Trump administration for its seeming inability to stem the disclosures, according to these officials.

Anger is running so high that multiple current U.S. officials have named some of the former Obama officials they believe are behind the unauthorized disclosures, which Trump officials say are aimed at kneecapping the current administration and also rewriting the record of the Obama years.

“They [former Obama officials] offer ridiculous explanations about why Obama couldn’t act more forcefully, and then they apparently leak even more information about certain U.S. measures they claim have been taken against Russia,” said one senior U.S. official who deals closely with the matter. “The publication of this information, if it’s true, could do some damage to our national security, but the sources don’t seem to mind doing that if it helps advance their political narrative.”

The sources leaking this information appear to be the same former Obama administration allies and holdovers behind a months-long series of damaging leaks.

Robert Mueller has been given permission to go wide ranging in his investigation. That can mean Trump and his staff, but it also can mean the Clinton’s, Lynch, Susan Rice and Barack Obama.

I have said repeatedly that had there been anything to the Russian-Trump thing it would have leaked already. It hasn’t because I doubt there is anything there. But there’s a lot of smoke coming out of that plane in which Clinton met Lynch and there is a lot of smoke coming from that Susan Rice’s unmasking pile and there’s a lot of smoke coming from that pile of Obama flexibility and inaction despite knowing Russia was messing with us.

In their hatred of Trump and spitefulness at losing the election democrats have opened Pandora’s box. Watch as they, as did Pandora, try fruitlessly to shut it.

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What else did Pandora release from the box? LIBERALISM,ENVIROMENTALISM AND SNOWFLAKES but they last thing released was HOPE(not Obamas Hope)Trumps type Hope

IF they start investigating in the right direction (to the left) the criminals will fall like dominoes.

Nothing like a nice tutorial on Greek Mythology to wade into a diatribe of bullshit.

But then, that’s just what dr john does. No surprise. Whatever it takes to sell a shit sandwich, right?

Special Counsel Meuller is a Democrat and he has been hiring Democrat lawyers to aid him in the investigation of any collusion with Russia and whatever else. This seems like a disaster for Trump. Why would Trump allow it?

A possibility. Trump knows he isn’t guilty and wants to find and indict his enemies. Meuller has the reputation of being an honest man. Maybe Trump encouraged Meuller to hire Dems of good character so that any indictments of high ranking Dems would have weight and effect. There can be no claims that any prosecution of Trump’s enemies was manufactured by Republican party loyalists.

There is risk in this. But consider that Trump wants to prosecute his enemies and hold responsible for their crimes Obama, Hillary, Lynch, and others. This would be the exact way to do it.


Nothing like a nice tutorial on Greek Mythology to wade into a diatribe of bullshit.

What is bullshit? Please specify and refute, so I can be wise… like you.

Now, don’t run away and cower like you usually do… enlighten us all.

Perhaps you can also provide all the evidence unearthed that proves you liberals’ accusations about collusion between the Russians and Trump? (we’ve seen plenty between Obama and Hillary and the Russians)

“The Democrat party retreat from the Russian Front”

or, given the play in ny, and other such idiocies

“Trump crossing the rubicon, crying ālea iacta est, Causes Roman Senate to flee in fear!!!”

this also points out to the history that the protections of our constitution and our courts and our three legged stool of state, are meaningless if the thing that establishes them is dissolved first. As ceaser did not worry about censure or other actions, as those who would oppose such, eventually were gone one way or another (death, loss of office, change of state function, etc).

and funny.. They had the Gaul to do it…

@Andy42302: Not near as bad as demoncrap Russia collusion brought to you by Clinton News Network!!

@Bill… Deplorable Me:

Now, don’t run away and cower like you usually do… enlighten us all.

he doesn’t know if he’s Andy or Ajay. He also doesn’t know if his butt was bored or punched. I’m not sure which other identities are the same person, but I have my suspicions. Just depends on how many trolls are being paid each month.

@Andrew Garland: You need to check your facts. Meuller is a republican. He always has been. He was appointed by both Reagan and G W Bush.

What amazes me is demoncraps have been defeated in the past election cycles including President and they somehow think they have won something. Of course when they lose they never never blame themselves. Used to be climate change and Bush but now we can add on Trump. As long as their ideology is rejected by America there is a chance of survival. Notice how loud the MSM was about Caskell and Bernie?? Didn’t think so!!

Last year at our County Fair the demacrats had a dumb sign TAKE BACK AMERICA Hey Dumb-O-Crats Taking america back from you and your ilk so please GO AWAY DEMS

@Spurwing Plover: That sign was one left over from the November election when the country was taken back. They were continuing to lose by larger margins, they’re not closing in on anyone.

Forgot the cyber warfare Russia waged against neighboring countries like Georgia and Obama did nothing.

I see the demac-RATS along with Mad Madam Maxine(Waters)is still pushing for Trumps Impeaachment even though he has,nt commited one impeachoble act but Obama on the other hand commited many impeachible acts but as always with the Demac-RATS they ignored the whole thing after all Obama was one of them a total crook

The honest truths that rural, Christian, white Americans don’t want to accept and until they do nothing is going to change, are: listed at the bottom of the article. They will likely offend those who are in most need of thinking about them. Therein lies a problem.

@Greg: As long as you leftists allow liberal elitists to do all your thinking for you, tell you who you should hate and who you should support, you, as an individual, will NEVER understand why the Democrats got trounced. Furthermore, as long as you continue with this campaign of villainizing all who disagree with you, assigning terrible traits and characteristics to us in order to justify your hatred, you will NEVER understand.

In fact, it is quite clear that, now that the left has resorted to full-fledged fascism, you don’t WANT to understand.

@Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, there in lies the problem?? Correct, why should Christian white Americans have to give up their beliefs and accept anything?? I believe the Constitution allows them to have these beliefs as much as liberalism tries to shove theirs down the throats of white Christians!! Most in need is correct Greggie, most in need of changing their ways!!

@Greg: Greg, I’m not sure why you linked to a long soliloquy written by someone that was ashamed to put their name on the article. I’m sure it is because he made up so many provable lies by him in the story that the whole thing would be instantly discredited: for example:

“I grew up in rural, Christian, white America. You’d be hard-pressed to find an area in the country that has a higher percentage of Christians or whites. I spent most of the first 24 years of my life deeply embedded in this culture. I religiously (pun intended) attended their Christian services. I worked off and on, on their rural farms. I dated their calico skirted daughters. I camped, hunted, and fished with their sons. I listened to their political rants at the local diner and truck stop. I winced at their racist/bigoted jokes and epithets that were said more out of ignorance than animosity

I took the time to read the whole article and it was almost all total BS. It is sad that liberals have to ‘make it up’ to try to sell the reason they are such losers.
I especially like this part:

-Government has not done enough to help them in many cases but their local and state governments are almost completely Republican and so too are their representatives and senators. Instead of holding them accountable, they vote them in over and over and over again.

-All the economic policies and ideas that could help rural America belong to the Democratic Party: raising the minimum wage, strengthening unions, infrastructure spending, reusable energy growth, slowing down the damage done by climate change, healthcare reform

Mainly because it is stated exactly backwards. Those great ideas listed that the Dumbocraps have are the ones they were using when they were running things that have just about destroyed the country. Then we elected the Republicans in to try to improve things. And:

‘Instead of holding them accountable, they vote them in over and over and over again

So how many terms in a row now have we re-elected a Republican president over and over and over again? No, we just turned out the No. 1 racist in the country, now maybe we can start to get back to where we were before Obozo’s regime set us back 50 years. When you find that author’s name, let us know but somehow I suspect it is a ‘made up piece’ by a bunch of Fake News folks.


The author of that crap is too ashamed to hang his/her name on it. Can’t have the plebs fact checking, you know.

What absolute cowards progressives/liberal/Socialists are.

@retire05, #20:

Unlike, say, Zero Hedge’s frequently quoted writer, “Tyler Durden?” Or the majority of people posting to this site?


“Tyler Durden?” Or the majority of people posting to this site?

majority, as in ‘all’. You think Dr John is his real name? You think Aye, Wordsmith, Richard Wheeler, Greg are their real names? Most people use a name so that they won’t be harrassed by lunatics. Dimocrats don’t have to worry about that because Conservatives aren’t loonies. Conservatives do have to worry because Libtards are Loonies.
Name some of the Lib writers that you think are using their real names. My guess is ‘no one’.

@Greg: “Tyler Durden?” I actually happen to know Tyler Durden and will testify that to be his true and legal name.

@Greg: Didn’t catch your last name, Greg.

@Bill… Deplorable Me, #24:

Hey, it wasn’t me who fired off an attack on someone for not using their real name. Refer back to post #20. I understand perfectly well why it’s often not a good idea to use your real name online when discussing controversial topics. Too many psychos, vindictive little internet idiots, and gun owners with serious anger management issues are running around loose.

Has anyone here ever stopped to consider that in the book and movie “Fight Club,” Tyler Durden is the alter-ego of a schizophrenic anarchist terrorist who targets and finally blows up the capitalist corporate establishment? That, of course, would require some basic figuring out, which seems to be a big challenge for people on the right in general, and Trump supporters in particular.


Hey, it wasn’t me who fired off an attack on someone for not using their real name. Refer back to post #20.

I do believe the person that shifted the context to FA writers was a Greg…. something.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: That’s correct a ‘greg’ somebody quoted an entire article with no author, then inferred or stated that Tyler Durden is not a real person. I do know Tyler and he is real.

@Greg: Your article is total limo politics in a nutshell.
The rural folks dont chat about politics at the table or in the co-ops, they talk the price of crops, equipment repairs, real life topics to them.
How in the devil are unions going to help a farmer that man never shoveled a cow pat in his life he is a liar. You have been snookered again.
-All the economic policies and ideas that could help rural America belong to the Democratic Party: raising the minimum wage, strengthening unions, infrastructure spending, reusable energy growth, slowing down the damage done by climate change, healthcare reform, I would like him to explain how any of these topics would be important, now the death tax that rips generational farms from families that the stupid Democrats say will help Trump, yes you and the Democrat party are really out of touch.

I also considered titling this post “The Democrat party retreat from the Russian Front”

nope… “alea iacta est”

Democrat party forced to retreat back accross the rubicon
Their dreams of repeating history dashed, hoisted upon their own petard…

@Andrew Garland: A possibility. Trump knows he isn’t guilty and wants to find and indict his enemies. Meuller has the reputation of being an honest man. Maybe Trump encouraged Meuller to hire Dems of good character so that any indictments of high ranking Dems would have weight and effect. There can be no claims that any prosecution of Trump’s enemies was manufactured by Republican party loyalists.

IF you go back to what i wrote a while back, you might find that I pointed out that the dems have taken up the socilaist marxist system, and so, they are dirty, and they control dirty by holding back the punishment for them. ie. be on ourside, be a slime, no one can touch you…

Of course the opposite awaits their enemies, who they wont let win an election unless they know there is some dirt… ie. even a trostkyite entryist has to have something on them so that the system can control things. Show me the man and i will show you the crime… so to speak

but i for long have pointed out that the one thing, the absolute one thing that they cant let happen is a honest man… not a saint… many wealthy people play by the rules, to the point that people who get beaten dont realize that they were beaten by the rules not by cheating or something…

quick example: the contract says if X isnt paid on Y date, the property reverts to the wealthy person… many people will add or change rules to what they think it will be then be upset that they didnt get a mulligan or that they have so much why couldnt they let them slide for a day.. evil bankers living to the terms of the rules you would hold them to if it was reversed (no?)

so Trump is clean. he has ALWAYS been clean. for most of these peopel in most of the areas they do their thing, being other than clean is actaully a bad thing.

lets say your an evil billionaire..
do you WANT to work with a clean one?
not unless you think you can best them..
but they didnt have to cheat to win, you did

say a clean one gets into office…
now what you gonna do? your main method of winning is smearing
but a clean person cant easily be smeared and others come to their defense
did you notice that trump had several defenders, but weinstein has nothing?

so what you saw was a machine that in the absence of anything real, they hoped theyh could make shit stick, but shit dont stick long on the good… it just doesnt..

there is nothing that they fear more than a person economically independent and clean… they serve no one but themselves and god (if they believe) and nothing you can do can change that other than a decent argument

and any group that been leaning on the crutch of slime and smear do not get better at debate and deals (they get worse)

also, the last thing i will add is that the left and liberals think that dirt is the way it works cause that is the way they work. they dont believe in merit (either actual or for its inconvenient to planning having to accomodate no repeatable parts in people),, they believe all success cheats… they attract it, so they get a warped view the way some police get from their work… but, but, but…

They do not understand how these things that have always won, have won!!!!
the BEST they have is pretending the other is a better schemer than they
ergo the republicans machine is working and doing and they cant say why
because they HAVE to assume better cover for dirt in a world where dirt is the only success!!!

but notice… you really thin 3M made it to where it is by being a cheat?
how about other companies? how many actually cheat?
anyone know how much liability can cost?
Only those that dont think cheating is great!

Amazing to go back and see the predictions that have become fact (and those that haven’t). Also, I noticed one of the times I had to re-enter my name, I left… my name off.

@Greg: #16 I forgot to mention the writer of this clap trap limo politics is a closed mind ignorant racist and bigot. I could take any random kid from a rural area and pull any random student from urbania and bet the kid from the rural area blows the urban kid out of the water in all the basics of education. If that article reflects any of your feelings or beliefs that makes you a racist bigot as well.