Obamas Shadow Government Belongs in Jail (Guest Post)

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The Trump wiretapping scandal is still in the first stages. It has been shown that in fact, the Obama administration did actively wiretap Donald Trump, and has lead to a plethora of “leaks: that the mainstream media has made front and center to attempt to delegitimize the new President. It was operatives of the Obama administration who used these leaks allegedly procured through this illegal wiretapping that have been creating this entire Russian false story in an attempt to turn the American people against Trump. This is the same administration that brought the American people the lies about Fast and Furious, the IRS, and many others. This is an administration that had one attorney General found in contempt of Congress, and another taking the Fifth Amendment. And now this same administration is asking the American people to believe MORE lies about our present President.

What is even more appalling than the illegal wiretapping that, if not done by Obama, was directed by him to the NSC and FBI is the fact top Republicans and Democrats knew about this surveillance and said nothing. Among those who knew and said nothing was House Speaker Paul Ryan, House minority leader Chuckie Shumer, and Senator John McCain and Senator Lindsay Graham.

In concert with the media it is being claimed that there is no proof that the wiretapping actually occurred. These are the same low lifes that are pushing a false narrative about Trumps Russian connections, even though the FBI has already stated there is no proof. Obama, in refuting this accusation claims that his administration ever ordered the wiretapping or interfered in any investigation being done by the DOJ. He is saying that he did not order it, but does not say that the administration did. This isn’t like the “Russian problem”, this accusation actually has documentation that shows what was done although the MSM will bury it and not let the American people know. It is a concerted effort by all those involved to hide the truth and ignoring the fundamental freedom of the American people to know what traitors to this country are doing.

There were multiple attempts by the FBI to obtain a warrant through the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, (FISA) over the summer to monitor four member of the Trump campaign because of what they felt was inappropriate contact between these men and Russian officials. This original attempt to gain a warrant was turned down. Another FBI request was accept by the FISA court in October of last year. The accepted warrant was centered around the possible financial and banking offenses that were allegedly found on a server that was possibly related to the Trump campaign. In essence, the Obama administration was monitoring the Trump campaign using the power of the federal governments intelligence services paid for by taxpayers.

The second FISA request, once again done by the FBI on Obamas orders led to the wiretapping of Trump. In the request it clearly states,

“No evidence was found- but the wiretaps continue”

The media, both local and national have already tried to make this story disappear while continuing to push a false “The Russians did it” storyline to do all they can to delegitimize our President. The concluded investigation into the Russians subverting our election has already be made known to the media and everyone in both parties, but the Democrats and the sycophants in the media can’t let go because they don’t have anything else and they are still hoping that the low information voters who barely watch much less comprehend local news will continue to believe it. Stories such as the Russian meddling in our elections has already been refuted, but sycophants such as the New York Times, the Washington Post and the progressive/socialist on the Democrat party refuse to let it go. They have nothing else, no policy, not way forward to bring the American people  back to the Utopia that these Marxists and globalists have laid out for the country.

Couple Obamas changing of the rules to allow the NSA to share “evidence” with all other intelligence agencies just before leaving office, and it shows that Obama holdouts in intelligence can put out any false story they want, label it intelligence and not have to divulge where the “information” came from, putting even private citizens under the yoke of Obama infiltrated intelligence agencies.

They used this intel to take down Flynn by making it the lead story for weeks, and intended to do the same to Sessions until it came out that one of the meeting that everyone has been whining about was actually an event arranged by the the Obama administration. And Sessions did answer the question that Franken asked, he did not talk to any Russians about the campaign. The question now is, did the intelligence agencies set up the question to try and catch Sessions in a lie and force Trump to terminate him?

The FISA court has a very rigid set of rules that must be followed. The only valid reason for the court to approve surveillance is only foreign intelligence information is the information necessary to protect the United States against a potential or actual hostile attack, sabotage or international terror. It would be interesting to see which of these the MSM will pick to attempt to convince the American People that there was nothing criminal here.

Looking at the FISA court and why the warrant was ever issued in a challenge for the past administration, the courts, and is just another reason why the American people do not trust government. FISA should have had no part in this debacle as there was no relevant purpose to even issue the warrant, especially when based on the Obama administration withholding information that the court needed to make a determination. An affidavit was required by the FISA court to apply for the warrant. That affidavit was written and attested to by the Obama administration. If that affidavit concealed information from the court, which it apparently did, that affidavit must be made available to the Congress and the American people. It has been proven that although the main target was Donald Trump, his name in never mentioned in the warrant that FISA allowed. That is perjury and a serious violation, along with the dissemination of information on an American citizen from an investigation that in all instances should remain confidential.

It can’t be denied that the Obama administration used surveillance information and sent it to the mainstream media in leaks that are prosecutable. The investigation into this illegal process will continue. The American people will no longer turn a blind eye to the socialists, globalists and media that continue to feel we must follow what they feel is best for us. Obama and the members of his administration need to go to jail, Those Obama holdovers in this administration need to be gone, and those reporters who willingly spout lies and fake news need to find that the American people will no longer follow and will in the long term run them out of town on a rail as it should be.

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@kitt: somehow , I don’t think John Velisek will object to your insulting comments kitt.
And if I was to point out that makes John Velisek a hypocrite, he will get mad.

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@John Velisek USN (Ret.):

Let’s just ignore him and he’ll go away.

Ok, I’ll go along with ignoring Philip, he doesn’t even know how to spell his first name, so clearly he’s not worth spending time on. I’m sure he’ll come back in another iteration.

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@PhillipMarlowe: Nice try. I don’t mind being insulted. Not by someone who thinks the last administration was Godlike. I just take the as snowflakes who want everything handed to them, and need safe spaces to cope. You aren’t saying anything I haven’t heard from many other liberals, and when you win the argument, you insult and call those who disagree with you bigots, racists, homophobes and xenophobes. I basically just ignore those who feel they want everything handed to them.

I spent 22 years fighting for this country to give you the right to believe what you want to, but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with you.

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@John Velisek USN (Ret.): @John Velisek USN (Ret.): @John Velisek USN (Ret.):
By the way, Mr. Velisek. Not only are you the one who started this with a lie, you started the insults:

same low lifes

This was followed by insults from RedTeam and kitt, about which you have remained silent.
Hypocrite.
Remove that plank from your eye.

I spent 22 years fighting for this country to give you the right to believe what you want to,

1. This country does not give me the right. That comes from God and His Son, Jesus, and His Spirit.
2. My dad, my uncles and my brother also served in the Army and Navy. My brother served during Desert Storm. They, you and the millions of other soldiers gave me and the other millions of Americans the opportunity to express what we believe without fear of retribution.
And for that, I thank you all.

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Hey, man, it really doesn’t matter who started the ad hominem, sic, if it’s picked up and returned it simply starts an endless pointless redundancy…..

As far as the post being a ‘lie’, it’s my humble opinion that there is considerable evidence pointing to the fact that the Trump people were monitored whether deliberately, or inadvertently, making Flynn is proof positive of at least that instance and it anyone insists the spying stopped there I got some ocean- front property for sale out in Nevada…….

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@PhillipMarlowe: Except it wasn’t a lie.

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@PhillipMarlowe: Posted the reply above off iPhone and it didn’t catch the person was responding to, so I’ll repost it here:

Hey, man, it really doesn’t matter who started the ad hominem, sic, if it’s picked up and returned it simply starts an endless pointless redundancy…..

As far as the post being a ‘lie’, it’s my humble opinion that there is considerable evidence pointing to the fact that the Trump people were monitored whether deliberately, or inadvertently, making Flynn is proof positive of at least that instance and it anyone insists the spying stopped there I got some ocean- front property for sale out in Nevada…….

As to your families service, I thank them for that.

And of course, nothing is so apparent of the freedom of speech we have is the ability to write one’s opinion and post it on sites like Flopping Aces.

This said, there still is a rational barometer within what one expresses as to how believable and logical ones opinions are…..the main post from which all these comments materialized was well written and, quite frankly, as about as far as one can get from a ‘lie’…..if one wants to disseminate and parse every other word in attempts to be disingenuous on the subject, the result is that person is quite transparent as to his end game…….personally if someone brands me a ‘liar’ I expect some concrete evidence as to why I am lying….ad hominems and personal insults certainly are not evidence, nor is ideological dithering…….FACTs make up the evidence, and facts are facts, regardless of how one party is completely oblivious because the facts are against them in the matter…not “Are you still beating your wife” logical fallacies and loaded questions…..:-)

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@Bob: Obama’s getting the last laugh–sitting on a beach drinking Coronas—
you knew he would

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Obamas Shadow Government Belongs in Jail

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@Richard Wheeler: Obama’s been laughing at the degradation of America for 8 years.

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John, the affidavits can never be revealed because the FISA courts a secret court.

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The Trump wiretapping scandal is still in the first stages. It has been shown that in fact, the Obama administration did actively wiretap Donald Trump, and has lead to a plethora of “leaks: that the mainstream media has made front and center to attempt to delegitimize the new President.

No such thing has been shown to be a fact. In fact, there is no evidence supporting Trump’s claim.

Trump is known to be a chronic, compulsive liar, who makes absolutely no distinction between truth and lies. He says whatever the hell he thinks is useful to him at the moment, and will say the opposite without blinking an eye if at some point that becomes useful. This particular fact can be and has been supported with an enormous volume of evidence.

Paul Manafort they did wiretap—legally, and with abundant justification. Failure to put this character under surveillance would have been dereliction of duty.

Paul Manafort is once again at the center of the Trump-Russia investigation — here’s what you need to know about him

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I revitalized this thread from the past because I believe we actually have a shadow government in place currently. biden has no earthly idea of what is happening much less of his existence.

The Recognition</b.

The climate change agitation is based on a central grandiose fallacy of our wobbling technocratic age: the idea that if you can measure enough stuff, you can control it. The master-wish in this case is what, exactly? To control the weather? (Which we might define as the day-to-day expression of the planet’s climate?) That ain’t gonna happen. In case you haven’t noticed, the business model of industrial civilization is already broken, and many of its dazzling tricks with it. And, anyway, the earth’s climate is forever and always changing, as is the adaptive response to it by human populations over the centuries, sometimes slowly and sometimes fast.

So, the net result of this year’s Glasgow Climate Summit is to pledge gobs of money from the “rich” nations to protect the poor nations, while mandating the reduction of oil, natgas, and coal in all nations, i.e., the global economy. Apropos of those “rich” nations, guess what: all of our modern money rests on promises to deliver future volumes of energy (and products of value made from it) and those promises are without basis in reality, so the money itself is increasingly worthless. Thus, the cost of getting that future energy exceeds the promises embedded in the money based on the energy. How’s that for a paradox? We’re the proverbial snake eating its own tail and now we’ve bitten off more than we can swallow.

We’re going to use less energy whether Klaus Schwab (and the Persian cat in his lap) likes it or not because our money is increasingly no good, which translates into a general loss of mojo for this round of civilization. The massive matrix of mutually self-reinforcing activities is seizing up — the mining, making, harvesting, and transport of stuff. That’s exactly what the “supply chain” melodrama is about. Of course, the Glasgow Summit did allow a bunch of people to feel self-important, to bethink themselves morally superior, which is the status currency of our time — the brownie-point having more actual value than the dollar these days. It certifies the “good” people and validates their persecution of the “bad” people, which is the central political drama of our time. The reward is power for its own sake, which is — let’s face it — the essence of evil.

The collapse of the global economy is underway and working itself out as it will, and the fear associated with that epic loss of resources, goods, comforts, and conveniences is driving Western Civ batshit crazy. Hence, the lunacies around the Covid-19 virus, another measure-and-control mania. Except that most of the official measurements about Covid-19 are untrue, gamed, fudged, juggled, misrepresented, and weaponized for political purposes. In fact, despite all the obsessive-compulsive statistical measuring, everything that the public health officialdom and the medical establishment did to control the disease after January 2020, only made the pandemic worse and prolonged it.

And so now all those authorities are bent on “vaccinating” every last human — which is absolutely the last thing you would rationally do in the midst of the pandemic event, since it only provokes new iterations of the virus that are immune to the “vaccines.” What’s more, the “vaccines” are so ineffective in the first place, and so toxic in the second place, that the damage they cause is arguably worse than the disease. But that quandary affords another opportunity for the self-designated “good” people (the vaxxed) to distinguish themselves from the “bad” people (the unvaxxed), and hence another way to persecute them. (Do you suppose it’s a mere coincidence that the people who refuse to get agitated by the climate change panic are often the very same people skeptical of the “vaccines”?)

Another interesting paradox in this panorama of mindfuckery is that the self-designated “good” people have behaved with uniform bad-faith and dishonesty throughout the long crisis — at least from RussiaGate through the current crusade to vax-up all the children — and that is what will change the game, probably soon. It happens that the leadership of the “good” people includes most of the figures in authority over the whole country: those public health officials like Dr. Fauci, the hospital directors who outlawed early treatment protocols, the pharma executives who buried their failed drug trials, the scientific journal publishers who killed reports that don’t support the “vaccine” narrative, the news-media editors and producers who can’t stop spinning lies, the Social Media totalitarian censors and cancellers, the tyrant mayors of New York, San Francisco, and Los Angeles, the “blue” state governors who destroyed small business with lockdowns and “passports,” the Woked-up state and federal bureaucrats ever preoccupied with covering their asses, the skulking managers behind the ectoplasmic “President Joe Biden” (and their handmaidens in Congress) — that Satanic host of coercion-meisters, inquisitionists, corporate despots, reputational executioners, moneygrubbers, political whores, and credentialed sadists trying to run your life — are headed for a fall.

They will fall because dishonesty undermines the entire scaffold of their “narrative.” All that’s required is for a crucial truth to assert itself unequivocally in the zeitgeist for the whole armature to fold. For instance, the truth that the “vaccines” are killing and maiming a lot of people. Or the truth that firing unvaxxed people from their jobs will drive them to hardship and revolt — even while it destroys the critical services that all people, “good” and “bad,” depend on, from the EMTs to the army. Or the truth that the crashing economy will disorder all the touchstones of daily life and require us to make big changes to remain civilized. That moment of recognition of how things have gone and where things are going is here. We’re in it. Yeats’s gyre has widened. We’re close to escape velocity. And then maybe we will begin again, walking in sunlight rather than darkness.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-recognition/

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