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The pipe of the racism piperĀ is playing and the lemmings hear the call. One after another politicians run to the front of the political correctness cliff and jump off blathering about how the Confederate flag has to come down and even how the next symbol of oppression must also find the dustbin of history:

Senate Majority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has joined calls to remove a statue of Kentucky-native Jefferson Davis from the state capitol building.

The statue of Jefferson Davis has been in the rotunda of the Kentucky Capitol building since 1936, but it has come under fire by McConnell, GOP Gubernatorial candidate Matt Bevin, and ā€œtop Republicans in Kentuckyā€™s House and Senate.ā€

According to WAVE 3, McConnell gave a measured response to questions about removing the statue, saying, ā€œMaybe a better place for that would be the Kentucky History Museum, which is also in the state Capitol.ā€

Frankly, I think the Confederate flag flying in the South probably should have been taken down years ago but thanks to democrats like Fritz Hollings up it went.

Retailers lined up and jumped off the cliff as well. Amazon stated it will no longer sell the Confederate flag, but it will continue to sell Communist merchandise.

Amazon sells a huge variety of shirts, posters, you-name-it featuring the hammer and sickle, Joseph Stalinā€™s mustache, all things Che Guevara, Vladimir Lenin and other colorful revolutionaries who fought to make the world a better place, man. Guevaraā€™s book Guerilla Warfare is on sale in four different formats. In one of the worst genocides in modern times, Stalin forcibly starved Ukrainian peasants in whatā€™s known as the Holodomor, a ā€œterror-famineā€ that left anywhere from 2.4 million to 7.5 million Ukrainian peasants dead in 1933.

Nazi merchandise? Sure.

Walmart has pulled the Confederate flag but it will be happy to sell you a poster of Che Guevara.

ā€œWe never want to offend anyone with the products that we offer. We have taken steps to remove all items promoting the confederate flag from our assortment ā€” whether in our stores or on our web site,ā€ said Walmart spokesman Brian Nick. ā€œWe have a process in place to help lead us to the right decisions when it comes to the merchandise we sell. Still, at times, items make their way into our assortment improperly ā€” this is one of those instances.ā€

“We never want to offend anyone with the products that we offer.”

Well, a lot us find Communists and Nazism offensive. A lot of us find the aggrandizement of philosophies that has killed millions after millions of people offensive.

“We never want to offend anyone with the products that we offer.”

Hmm. Can’t help but wonder- will that eventually include the American flag?

Increasingly, the American flag- the flag of the United States of America- is becoming more and more offensive to the left.

Hispanics find the American flag offensive

Muslims find the flag offensive.

Illegals? I guess they don’t mind as long as the priorities are in order:

Flag stomping has become a liberal past time

Rappers find the flag offensive.

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Activists find the flag offensive.

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Oh, and kill whitey while we’re at it.

Liberal educators find the flag offensive.

Wearing the American flag is offensive.

And the Obama mentor in whose living room the political career of Barack Obama was spawned?

 

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As soon as there are enough votes to be had and voters to be pandered to, democrats will call for the removal of the US flag and replace it with something closer to their hearts.

 

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What comes after that? Burning the books about the Confederacy?

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@retire05: Sickening that you compare homosexuals to pedophiles.
BTW You are the mistress of pejoratives.

@rich wheeler:

Sickening that you compare homosexuals to pedophiles.

Why? Because you have allowed yourself to be brainwashed into believing that homosexuality is a normal human condition and is not what it really is, a sexual deviation from the norm? What, in your mind, makes you think that one sexual disorder is unlike another? If sexually desiring children is a sexual mental disorder, how is sexually desiring someone of the same sex (which offers no societal benefit) not the in the same category of other sexual disorders?

@rich wheeler: 249

Where we differ RT is I accept the rights of gays

Ok, tell me what ‘right’ you accept for gays that you don’t accept for others. What rights do gays have that all Americans don’t have? What ‘rights’ do they need that others don’t need? You’re the one that says there are ‘gay rights’ tell us what that means.

and you are a proud homophobe.

And explain what you think a homophobe is.

You have also shown yourself to be a racist. For that there is really no excuse.

Now you’re just blowing smoke out your ass. You have no way of knowing if I’m racist or not. I damn sure haven’t said anything about racism on this blog except that we have a whole lot of people that talk about it and I’m not one of those.
There must be something in the air in Gayfornia. Seems as if everyone out there is obsessed with homosexuals. I’m sure that must embarrass homosexuals that everyone out there is now running around pretending (I guess) to have friends that are homosexuals, or claiming that they ‘know’ a homosexual. Even going so far as to wear assless chaps and wave rainbows while walking down the streets. Geez, Richie, we all admire you. Just stomp on a few more fetus’s and sing kumbaya.

@rich wheeler:

Sickening that you compare homosexuals to pedophiles.

you want to re-hash that old discussion? George has said that he agrees that homosexuality is a malfunction or mis-wiring in the brain. Most also agree that serial killers, pedophiles, bipolar, etc are also from mis-wiring of the brain. Because homosexuals, as adults, are consenting, most agree they should have the same legal rights as other adults. Not different rights. Serial killers and pedophiles act against others without their permission so are not allowed. Bipolar is treatable with some medicines. I’m not sure if the others are treatable or not, and don’t care.
I think you must be a ‘normal people’ phobe.

#250:

“normalizing homosexuality resulted in thousands and thousands of needless deaths. And yes, one of the resulting effects of this normalization is a rise in STDs in homosexual men. Too bad you liberals donā€™t care enough about them to want to help save their lives by trying to find a cure for their illness.”

Ummm, that’s not what happened.

HIV/AIDS has been traced back to the 50’s, and was epidemic in the gay community by the early 80’s. The “normalization” of homosexuality didn’t begin until when? The Norfolk, Virginia police were still rounding up and jailing homosexuals when they could find them in gay bars in the 80’s, because gays had NO gay rights, NO “normalization” of their lives comparable to what straights had.
Maybe the move toward equality began with the 2003 Lawrence SCOTUS decision overturning Texas’ anti-sodomy law, but before that, what meaningful “normalization” are you referring to?

A “Cure?”
You know that there is no “cure” for homosexuality.
Centuries… MILLENIA of effort has sought that “cure,” and the best anyone ever came up with is the discredited “reparative therapy” hoax – the equivalent of trying to electro-shock a red-head into becoming a blond.

I’ll tell you what: You spend YOUR money on the research that you stupidly believe hasn’t already been tried, and let me know how that works for you. But until you discover something more than impossible dreams, don’t bother the rest of us with your petty delusions.
We know better.

#252:

“What, in your mind, makes you think that one sexual disorder is unlike another?”

Having no sexual drive – no sexual “orientation” – is a sexual disorder. It isn’t the same thing as having too much sex drive (a sexual addict) and it isn’t the same thing as bestiality. You might HOPE that you can get away with equating different sexual abnormalities (yes, homosexuality is a sexual abnormality) but they are NOT equal. Each condition is different. Some are benign, such as the absence of sexual interest, and others are destructive, some much more than others. Your attempt to characterize every nuance of the human condition as either one extreme or the other – as if all characteristics can be distilled down to a digital “zero” or a “one” – is patently absurd.

Try thinking first, THEN post.

#254:

“George has said that he agrees that homosexuality is a malfunction or mis-wiring in the brain”

Not exactly. I believe that in most cases homosexuality is caused by prenatal hormonal abnormalities. It really has nothing to do with the brain’s “wiring”.

As far as your use of the term “malfunction” is concerned, it is only a “malfunction” if the functional difference produces a problem. If neither society nor the individual has a problem with the difference, it isn’t “mal,” it’s simply different. And since there are already more than enough people contributing (either intentionally or accidentally) to the gene pool, society really has no reason to force everyone to reproduce.
The only “malfunction” is in the eyes of people who feel threatened when some people do things that are different than what THEY do.
As if you’re so special…

@George Wells:

The ā€œnormalizationā€ of homosexuality didnā€™t begin until when?

Oh, about 1880 in Germany. Then later with Antonio Gramsci and then the Frankfurt Marxists.

Maybe the move toward equality began with the 2003 Lawrence SCOTUS decision overturning Texasā€™ anti-sodomy law, but before that, what meaningful ā€œnormalizationā€ are you referring to?

Try the removal of homosexuality from the DSM which happened in the 1970’s. That was about 30 years before Lawrence. Of course, the truth behind why it was removed from the DSM has been well hidden by the Gaystapo. Just like the truth behind Lawrence, and the actual events, was also covered over. Everything about the gay movement has been based on lies.

A ā€œCure?ā€
You know that there is no ā€œcureā€ for homosexuality.

Just like there is no known cure for bi-polarism, schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, et al. While those mental illnesses can be treated, to a certain extent, with pharmaceuticals, there is no known cure for most mental illnesses.

But until you discover something more than impossible dreams, donā€™t bother the rest of us with your petty delusions.
We know better.

What you know, George, is whatever it takes to make you feel good about yourself, however delusional. You have to make excuses for the choices you made, and yes, being gay is a choice, not a birth defect.

Having no sexual drive ā€“ no sexual ā€œorientationā€ ā€“ is a sexual disorder. It isnā€™t the same thing as having too much sex drive (a sexual addict) and it isnā€™t the same thing as bestiality.

There are many sexual “disorders.” And they all have one thing in common, they go against natural sexual drives. The straight guy who has to have sex with his female partner 4-5 times a day also has a sexual disorder.

You might HOPE that you can get away with equating different sexual abnormalities (yes, homosexuality is a sexual abnormality) but they are NOT equal. Each condition is different. Some are benign, such as the absence of sexual interest, and others are destructive, some much more than others.

They are only unequal in respect to the nation of the individual disorder. And homosexuality has proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it is not a benign disorder and the mere number of deaths from HIV/AIDS among homosexuals prove that it is, and remains, destructive.

I believe that in most cases homosexuality is caused by prenatal hormonal abnormalities. It really has nothing to do with the brainā€™s ā€œwiringā€.

Based on what? What scientific study has proven that homosexuality is caused by prenatal hormonal abnormalities? You are only fooling yourself.

@retire05: I agree with most, or all, of what you said, to a degree.
I do believe that there are at least two causes/reasons for homosexuality. One is a brain wiring problem, similar to several other problems/disorders as we’ve both mentioned. Bipolar, serial murderers, pedophiles, sex addicts, and others. That I put into the ‘birth defect’ category. Note: I don’t blame the person for that problem, it’s mother nature. But then there are self made homosexuals. There seems to be evidence that persons seduced/raped by homosexuals, such as in prisons, may become homosexual for some reason, such as, they may enjoy it. Or, if they are going to be in prison for a long time, they may accept it as the only option. Of course there always has been the ‘assaults’ of young boys by homosexuals. The article I linked to above has a good summation of a number of ‘crazy people’/serial killers, John Wayne Gacy, etc that were homosexual maniacs. Were they also bipolar? likely. If two adult homosexuals want to engage in sexual relations, as long as it’s only adults participating without coercion, it should be acceptable. I know of no other ‘mental disorder’ that is considered ‘acceptable’ without some treatment expected. Bipolar certainly has to be treated to keep the people ‘normal’. Serial killer, pedophiles? is there any doubt?

@Redteam:

Nature, or nurture, the fact is that homosexuality is, and remains, a mental disorder in spite of the actions of the Gaystapo to have it removed from the DSM by threatening physical harm to the psychiatrists who attended the APA conventions in San Francisco in the 70’s.

What is sad is that because of the push by the Gaystapo to normalize homosexuality, you know, like the Human Rights group that George donates to, is the fact that it goes ignored the number of young boys and men that are sexually abused by homosexuals. Ever wonder why May-December relationships are so prominent in the male homosexual community? If George says they’re not common, he’s lying. (he never said they weren’t). Why are 60 year old queer men attracted to 18 year old young men?

When someone points these things out, they get labeled a “homophone” because they don’t buy into the numerous lies that have been told by the gay community. And why is it so important to have gay Boy Scout leaders? I can’t be a Boy Scout leader, why are they such special snowflakes?

@retire05: Yes, I agree that it is a mental disorder, and I think it is from both Nature and Activities. (I don’t believe it is nurture, I don’t think a mother would try to raise her son to be homosexual.) I don’t think there is much doubt that young boys being seduced (raped) by adult homosexuals is a major reason for homosexuality. I have never been referred to or called a homophone because I’d guess about 90% of the people I know feel about the same as I do. While I have no problem with two adults doing whatever they wish, sexually, I think there should not be a campaign to tell people that it is ‘normal’. For example, there is no way a child should be raised in a house with two homosexual parents. That would be no different than raising one in a house with pedophiles or serial killers. Children should be raised by parents without diagnosed mental disorders, of which homosexuality is one. So while it is ok for two consenting adults to do whatever they wish together, I don’t extend that to ‘having an input in a child’s welfare’.

Boy Scouts. When I was a Boy Scout, we had more than one leader that ‘was strange’. All they wanted to do was participate in activities that involved body contact, especially wrestling, between them and the boys. I knew, from comments from the other boys, what was going on and I never participated. In fact, I’d say that’s why I finally quit the Boy Scouts. The Boy Scout organization is going to disappear within a few years. Most parents will not let their sons participate.

GOVERNOR MOONBEAM STRIKES AGAIN

Governor Edmund Brown on Tuesday signed into law a bill that bans plastic shopping bags, making California the first U.S. state to officially prohibit stores from handing them out for free.

Let me get this straight. A woman can decide to kill her baby, but she can’t decide to use a plastic bag to carry her groceries in. How does that go? Killing babies: Good. Using plastic bag: Bad.
Kinda goes along with routing billions of gallons of fresh water to the ocean instead of into fresh water reservoirs so a snail fish can live but millions of fruit trees are allowed to die.

And in case anyone wonders why Rich lives in Gayfornia, I think we have our reasons.

@Redteam: Your comment reminded me of a great 70’s movie called Save The Tiger.
In the movie Jack Lemmon’s friend asks him “Why are you living in L.A.”
” Because it ain’t Cleveland.” was his rapid response.

Why am I living in California? Because it’s not Louisiana. I hear there continues to be a lot of incest and inbreeding in your backwoods and bayous. Is that true ?

#260:

” Why are 60 year old queer men attracted to 18 year old young men?”

Same reason 60 year old straight men are attracted to 18 year old bimbos.
You think they aren’t?

My uncle – my Mom’s sister’s husband, ditched my aunt for his young secretary.
Another of my uncles, Charlie Willis, was president of Alaska Airlines and married to Elizabeth Firestone (of the tire company family) when he got caught “having fun” with one of his airline’s young stewardesses. Charlie got divorced, and never stopped grinning.
Don’t EVEN try to tell me that “May-December” romances are something peculiar to the gay community. We BOTH know that they are not.
Was Hugh Hefner gay?

“the fact that it goes ignored the number of young boys and men that are sexually abused by homosexuals.”

Something like all of the young girls and women that are raped by straight men? By their fathers and “uncles?”

Just because SOME people in a class do bad things, it doesnā€™t mean that everyone in the same class does bad things. Pretty dishonest of you to suggest that it DOES.

You put up such a silly proposition that gay people are doing things that straight people aren’t doing, and you wonder why your only fan is Redteam, the wing-nut who thinks that all of the SC congressmen who voted to keep the Confederate flag flying were Democrats (none were), who thinks that there are no gay pride parades in HIS state of Louisiana (there have been and continue to be plenty of them) and who thinks that the one in New Orleans is really just a part of Mardi Gras, in spite of the fact that the N.O. Gay Pride Parade is in JUNE each year, not February.
Ppppfffftttt!

“If George says theyā€™re not common, heā€™s lying. (he never said they werenā€™t).”

You really slipped a cog here. You’re arguing both sides of something I’ve never commented on – one way OR the other.
Hard up for something to talk about?

@rich wheeler: 263

I hear there continues to be a lot of incest and inbreeding in your backwoods and bayous.

You seem to know more about incest and inbreeding than I do, and about queer parades also. You’ll have to keep us informed. I don’t hear much about Gayfornia except they want to be supported by the taxpayers in other states. Want to keep snail darters alive, have declared war on unborn babies, kill all their fruit trees but keep the ‘fruits’ alive. Divert their fresh water to the ocean and fine their citizens for ‘wasting’ water. Oh, and don’t want to let their citizens use plastic bags because they think that is a waste while allowing women to waste their unborn. I could keep it up all night, but I’m sure you get the drift. Hope those chaps and rainbow flags aren’t plastic, the anti-plastic police may come after you.

@George Wells:

are no gay pride parades in HIS state of Louisiana (there have been and continue to be plenty of them) and who thinks that the one in New Orleans is really just a part of Mardi Gras, in spite of the fact that the N.O. Gay Pride Parade is in JUNE

Good job George, keeping us informed about all the scheduling of the homosexual pride parades. I recall you saying that you didn’t do those parades, but seems as if you sure are up on the activities. I’m sure you publishing the schedules is a good deal for Rich, seems as if he’s really gotten into the swing of things.

I don’t think too much of the arguments about 18-60 couples regardless of the sex as long as all are of age and are making up their own minds.
My own experiences put it more into the 30-50 year old men preying on 13-15 year old boys. That is a crime and should be punished that way. I don’t think anyone advocates that kind of relationship.

Was Hugh Hefner gay?

strange question. He liked girls in their 20’s since he was in his 20’s. He didn’t start with the 20 year olds only after he was older. But he didn’t care about the women either way, it was just candy for him.

and you wonder why your only fan is Redteam,

I don’t believe that statement is true. I’d say almost all readers support Retire’s comments. I think most support your comments also, except sometimes when you go off the deep end and make dumbass statements such as “and you wonder why your only fan is Redteam, “”
I certainly agree with you on occasion.

@George Wells:

#1, I personally don’t care about your family’s history.

Something like all of the young girls and women that are raped by straight men? By their fathers and ā€œuncles?ā€

Here’s the difference, George: when young girls are the victims of rape, be it by family members or strangers, society is outraged. But the victims of homosexual rape are rarely, if ever mentioned by anyone other than the victims as the tell their stories much later in life. Somehow, it’s different. Studies have shown that with same sex molestation, there is more shame for the victim. That is not how it should be, but that is how it is. And it is not something that the gay community wants to get publicity on.

Remember Harvey Milk? Hero of the radical gay movement. A movie was even made about his life. Bet the movie never mentioned that Milk liked young teen boys, boys under the age of 16, did it?

Just because SOME people in a class do bad things, it doesnā€™t mean that everyone in the same class does bad things. Pretty dishonest of you to suggest that it DOES.

What is dishonest is how the sexual molestation of boys and male teenagers by male homosexuals has been swept under the carpet to protect the image of the gay community. When a University of Texas scientist did a 10 year (I think it was 10 years) study on the high percentage of homosexual males that had been molested by men when they were young, under 16, the gay community went bonkers and he had to move his family due to the death threats he and his family got. But that’s how your community rolls. Don’t like the disinfectant of sunlight, threaten the person that is shining the light on all the dirty little queer secrets.

ā€œIf George says theyā€™re not common, heā€™s lying. (he never said they werenā€™t).ā€

You really slipped a cog here. Youā€™re arguing both sides of something Iā€™ve never commented on ā€“ one way OR the other.

Do you know the meaning of “If?”

#266:

“I recall you saying that you didnā€™t do those parades, but seems as if you sure are up on the activities. Iā€™m sure you publishing the schedules is a good deal for Rich”

When you say something that I suspect is wrong, I fact-check it FIRST – before shooting my mouth off – and then give you a dust-off with the information that I found. I figured that New Orleans PROBABLY had a gay pride parade, but I certainly never went to one ANYWHERE (and certainly not one in N.O.) and I assuredly didn’t know the schedule. I also didn’t know that Baton Rouge had a gay pride parade, but I bothered to check before my post, figuring that additional examples would add insult to your injury. I didn’t look any further, though, because enough is enough. I DIDN’T post a “schedule” for any of those gay pride parades, so I don’t exactly know what your point about helping Rich with a schedule is…

“dumbass statements”

I prefer to keep my posts focused on the subject and similarly prefer civil discourse to cheap and insulting exchanges. However, I am not so Christian as to turn the other cheek when you and yours wax offensive, which you are inclined to do re: “dimocrats” and “assless chaps.” I will happily sit here and trade verbal punches with you if that’s all you are capable of. But when your tone and content suggests that you’re an ignorant Hill-Billy, don’t blame me for concluding that you are just that.

“I certainly agree with you on occasion.”

Thank you.
I’ve noticed.
While I am often disappointed by your seemingly “shorthand-for-dummies” version of knowledge about homosexuality, Retire05’s ignorance on the subject is much more profound. She is wrong in ways only accessible to people who stick stubbornly to a literal interpretation of the Bible. Fortunately, that sort of madness is rapidly disappearing.

#267:

“Remember Harvey Milk? Hero of the radical gay movement. A movie was even made about his life. Bet the movie never mentioned that Milk liked young teen boys, boys under the age of 16, did it?”

And you read this in WHICH Tabloid?

“What is dishonest is how the sexual molestation of boys and male teenagers by male homosexuals has been swept under the carpet to protect the image of the gay community.”

Umm… I seem to remember the media being awash with the details of the sexual molestation of young boys by Catholic Priests. Society was outraged… or am I imagining that? Or the details of Jeffrey Dahmer’s escapades with his… food (?) Society was outraged… or am I imagining that?

I suspect that only a tiny proportion of sexual molestation cases ever get publicity precisely because they occur SO frequently that they aren’t really newsworthy UNLESS they are particularly onerous crimes or involve some sort of celebrity – things absent to most cases involving either orientation.

“Do you know the meaning of ā€œIf?ā€”

“If Retire05 says hydrogen is not common, she’s lying. (She never said it isn’t.)”
There. That makes exactly as much sense as what YOU said.
Which begs the question of why you bothered to say what you said in the first place.
You lit a fire where none had been, just so you could cry “SMOKE!”
What WAS your point?

#258:

The majority of bank robbers are heterosexual. That doesnā€™t mean that we should put all heterosexuals in jail. Neither should we fire, defrock or incarcerate all priests because a fraction of them molest children. Your habit of associating homosexuality with one crime or another as if there is a proven causal relationship between the two is logical hogwash. Weā€™ve covered this ground before. You never learn. Your argument has been discredited and disproven, your views shared with an ever-shrinking and increasingly marginalized minority of deluded Americans.

When the majority of Americans opposed gay rights, you insisted that the majority had the last say in the matter, and that courts had no business interfering with the majorityā€™s will. Remember? But now that the majority has changed its mind, look whoā€™s running to the courts with their ā€œinfringement of First Amendmentā€ claims. LOL. Whatā€™s good for the goose is good for the gander. Now that the majority supports gay rights, where did all of your ā€œwill-of-the-majorityā€ crap go?
Ppppfffftttt!
Your hypocrisy is numbing!

In one breath, you insist that gays and liberals should be searching for a cure for homosexuality, and in the next breath, you admit that there IS no cure. So what DO you want? For people to be WASTING their time and money looking for something that you agree doesnā€™t exist?

Having red hair is abnormal.
Having a homosexual orientation is abnormal.
So what?
Neither of these abnormalities CAUSE criminal behavior.
Your desire to rid the World of homosexuality is nothing more than your desire to engineer a part of the diversity of the human experience OUT OF EXISTENCE because it makes you feel uncomfortable.
TOUGH!

Youā€™ve LOST the battle against gay rights in the courts of law and
Youā€™ve LOST the battle against gay rights in the court of public opinion.
Continuing in the same futile direction – as if the outcome might miraculously morph into your fantasy dream world – is insane. Not that Iā€™d expect an insane person to figure that outā€¦

Can’t we agree that love might involve sex BUT rape is all about power?
I saw the gangsta girl’s selfie yesterday.
She willingly stood in front of her male gang in an alley while the guy in the front held a gun to some guy’s head while forcing him to have oral sex with him.
Does a bunch of gang bangers, forcing one man to have oral sex with all of them at gunpoint make ANY of them homosexuals?
No.
It was a power play.

Raping young girls, relatives or not, is also a power play.
The perp’s orientation has nothing to do with it.

OK, maybe this is leaving some other, lesser factors out, but primarily rape is about power.
What does rape and sexual orientation have to do with the American flag, anyway?

@rich wheeler:

Why am I living in California? Because itā€™s not Louisiana. I hear there continues to be a lot of incest and inbreeding in your backwoods and bayous. Is that true ?

Sure, California. No debauchery there.

@Nanny G #271:

Hey, YOU brought up the Gangsta Girl’s Selfie.
And NO, it doesn’t MAKE any of the dudes in the selfie homosexual.
A fair measure of role-playing involves simulating rape.
The presence of the “gun” ( you can’t really determine from the photo that it isn’t just a toy) in the photo doesn’t prove that the guy on his knees isn’t happy to be where he is. The whole scene might be staged- you can’t know one way or the other.
But jump to the most obviously simplistic conclusion that you can imagine – it’s the thing to do around here.

Regarding the appropriateness of gay issues on a flag thread, as long as homophobes continue to blast their bigoted insults, I’ll point out how stupid they are. If someone responded to one of your posts concerning racism by calling you a “bitch,” wouldn’t you have something to say about it?

My, don’t some people get touchy when THEIR ideological toes get stepped on.

“Good for me, not for thee.”

@Nanny G: Why the hell would you waste your time watching that crap Nan?

This has become a true waste of time. The reactionaries have gone off the rails.

George “The Arc Of The Moral Universe Is Long But It Always Bends Towards Justice” MLK JR.

@Bill #274:

“My, donā€™t some people get touchy when THEIR ideological toes get stepped on.”

In reference to which post?
Did you JUST NOW wake up?
Duh!

@Rich Wheeler #275:

Yeah, it’s getting retiresome, isn’t it?
Trading insults back and forth is boring, unless you have the mind of a five-year-old.
But that’s what you find blogging from Texas and Louisiana, or so it seems from the endless tirade of “queer this,” “sodomite that,” “dimocrat this” and ass-less chaps that” coming from those quarters.
They just love hearing the sound of their voices speaking nasty nonsense.
Either that, or they get aroused from their own invented imagery.
One way or the other, it’s pitiful.

You want to claim the photo is staged, George?
OK, let’s say that.
What does that ”staged” photo say to you about the mentality of this group that they even thought something like this funny?
Have blacks raised their voices that this type of thing (staged or not) needs to be stopped from happening in their (black) community?
Is this a part of so-called ”black culture” that needs to be protected and encouraged?
Police are investigating.
They note that many gang bangers paint the tips of REAL guns (and that gun looks real but has an orange painted tip) so they can get the drop on cautious police who hesitate, thinking it may be a toy.
Is this an image gays want to project about themselves?
Several of those boys don’t even look old enough to shave.
How do their parents feel about this photo op?
Obama likes to say he identifies with black youths, like Trayvon M., which one of these boys would you think Obama would self-identify with?

@George Wells:

I prefer to keep my posts focused on the subject and similarly prefer civil discourse to cheap and insulting exchanges.

interesting because that’s what I do. I only insult ‘after’ I’ve been insulted, such as “”While I am often disappointed by your seemingly ā€œshorthand-for-dummiesā€ version “” and “” tone and content suggests that youā€™re an ignorant Hill-Billy, “” While I’m sure you’re impressed by your advanced knowledge of brain defects such as Homosexuality, it’s not a subject that I care about and will admit that my knowledge of homosexuals may be lacking and, if I’m lucky, will remain so.
But there’s little that is more fun than exchanging barbs with a yankee that thinks he is intellectually superior, in some way, to a flat land southerner.

@George Wells:269

Ummā€¦ I seem to remember the media being awash with the details of the sexual molestation of young boys by Catholic Priests. Society was outragedā€¦

Now George, let’s not slip off into pretend land. You know damn well that most homosexual assaults on young boys are not publicized.
I never was ‘assaulted’ by one, but damn sure had plenty of opportunities, as I’ve told you before. And I’m sure that some of those homosexuals that made advances on young boys did not always take ‘no’ for an answer.
Do you think the people that are pushing Harvey Milk’s story has published ‘all’ of his story? Should we ‘assume’ the worst? I’d say so, if he was typical.

I suspect that only a tiny proportion of sexual molestation cases ever get publicity precisely because they occur SO frequently that they arenā€™t really newsworthy

Don’t you think that’s a silly statement? Let me repeat one story, when I was 12 years old a guy, about 25, in my neighborhood offered to let me ‘drive his car’. We rode around, with me driving, for a few minutes, until we got to a little more vacant area when he asked me if I would let him have sex with me. I got out of the car and walked home. I never told anyone, except my older brother, until this forum. Now let me ask you, George, do you think that story made the newspapers or tv? We’re talking about 1952. I never heard of that guy doing that with any other kid, but do you think he did? If so, it didn’t make the newspapers or tv. Do you think I was the only child that happened to? I’d say multiply it by millions, or at least hundreds of thousands of times a year. But no publicity. And as I said, that kind of situation happened to me two other times, and would have been even more but I learned to avoid those situations. Lord knows how many young boys wresting with the scoutmaster got into those situations.

So George, don’t pretend like homosexuals are normal people, just like everyone else. They have mental problems that need to be dealt with. But they do break laws, they just don’t often get reported.

@George Wells:

Neither of these abnormalities CAUSE criminal behavior.

I obviously disagree with that.

@Nanny G #278:

“You want to claim the photo is staged, George?”

I neither “want” to claim it is staged, or “want” to claim that it isn’t. I can’t tell, either way.

“Is this a part of so-called ā€black culture?”

I couldn’t begin to tell you. I’m not Black…

“Is this an image gays want to project about themselves?”

I think that we have established that this has nothing to do with gays. Have you forgotten what you said earlier about it being all about “Power?” But in answer to your irrelevant question: No.

“How do their parents feel about this photo op?”

Probably don’t care, one way or the other. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Again, why do you ask?

And taking a cheap AND irrelevant shot at Obama is just plain racist. You’re better than that, aren’t you?

@George Wells: 277

They just love hearing the sound of their voices speaking nasty nonsense.

Do you hear the sound of your voice while blogging? You should get that checked out. Might be related to homosexuality.

#279:

If you UNDERSTAND that you are ignorant on the topic of homosexuality, why on Earth do you keep talking about it?
You can only learn when your ears are open and your trap is shut.

#280:

“I suspect that only a tiny proportion of sexual molestation cases ever get publicity precisely because they occur SO frequently that they arenā€™t really newsworthy

Donā€™t you think thatā€™s a silly statement?”

It’s not silly at all. Your example proves it is correct.
My point was that the same thing happens every day with straight people, too. IT ISN’T NEWSWORTHY. Not unless you EAT your victim, or do it a thousand times before you’re caught, or you have some serious name recognition that MAKES the story newsworthy. How often do you think underage girls get screwed? Never? Rarely? Don’t you figure at least SOME of all these teenage pregnancies are the result of the girls getting screwed ILLEGALLY?
Exactly how many pregnant 14-YEAR-OLDS do you think got that way legally?
Does every teen pregnancy make the news? No. That’s my point. It isn’t newsworthy.
Neither does it make the front page when some queer picks you up with hopes of making it past first base with you. IT ISN’T NEWSWORTHY.
GET OVER IT!

#281:

“Neither of these abnormalities CAUSE criminal behavior.

I obviously disagree with that.”

If homosexuality CAUSED criminal behavior, all gay people would be in jail, or worse. They aren’t. The vast majority of us never do anything criminal, just like straight folks. What do YOU have a guilty conscience about???

@George Wells: 285

Itā€™s not silly at all. Your example proves it is correct.

Well, my thoughts are more along the lines: I figure my story of an attempted assault by a homosexual on a 12 year old boy didn’t make the news because I DIDN’T TELL ANYONE. just as probably 99.9% don’t tell anyone(in the NEWS).

My point was that the same thing happens every day with straight people, too. IT ISNā€™T NEWSWORTHY.

So an adult attempting/having sex with a minor is NOT NEWSWORTHY?

Neither does it make the front page when some queer picks you up with hopes of making it past first base with you. IT ISNā€™T NEWSWORTHY.
GET OVER IT!

So if I understand your position, it is perfectly ok and normal for an adult homosexual to have sex with a prepubescent minor? And we should get over it? So if that’s NORMAL for homosexuals, are you a NORMAL homosexual?

you think it doesn’t make the papers because it’s happening all over the place and everybody knows it and don’t consider it newsworthy. I guess the mental problems of homosexuals go much deeper than I thought.

@George Wells:

If homosexuality CAUSED criminal behavior, all gay people would be in jail,

I thought it has long been known/accepted that serial killers and pedophiles can exist in society without acting out their impulses, I assume homosexuals can also.
I am agreeable to all of them existing as long as they don’t do criminal acts. When homosexuals start molesting young boys, they should be locked up. Same as pedophiles.

@George Wells: Oh, wait, I get it. I’m a dumb southern hill billy so I should be easy to fool into believing that homosexuals fooling with underage boys is so common and everybody knows about it and nobody cares and I should just GET OVER IT.
whew, glad I figured that out.

PS, it’s a good thing Rich lives over in California where all that stuff don’t go on because those are smart folks and they already know all about it.

#287:

“So an adult attempting/having sex with a minor is NOT NEWSWORTHY?”

Correct. Your virginity isn’t newsworthy. Adults – both heterosexual AND homosexual, are trying to – and sometimes succeeding in – having sex with minors every day, in every city. What’s news worthy about that? Yeah, it’s a crime. So what? That doesn’t make it newsworthy. Maybe you need to look up what “newsworthy” means.
And it has nothing to do with “getting over it.”
You are simply not important enough to make the news. Not if you get screwed, and not if you drown yourself in a sewer.
Maybe if you were a governor or some such, you’d count, but guess what?
You’re not a governor, or a celebrity, or any other newsworthy sort that the public would be INTERESTED in.
Sorry.
Only your vote counts.
Figure out how to change that, and then have at it. But until then, you don’t matter.
Get over it.

@George Wells:

Your habit of associating homosexuality with one crime or another as if there is a proven causal relationship between the two is logical hogwash.

Your habit of twisting someone’s words is also hogwash. Every crime, no matter intent, or construction, is individual and unique. One murder is not like another murder. One sexual abuse of a young boy by a homosexual is not like another sexual abuse of a young boy by a homosexual. Your far reach of trying to equate apples to oranges is laughable.

Your argument has been discredited and disproven,

Not by you.

your views shared with an ever-shrinking and increasingly marginalized minority of deluded Americans.

I will agree that sodomy has become more acceptable in the last few decades. It shows the power of the gay lobby to infiltrate schools, intimidate individuals by threats and to use a “social justice” type warfare. But all the arguments are based on lies. You know it, and I know it.

When the majority of Americans opposed gay rights, you insisted that the majority had the last say in the matter, and that courts had no business interfering with the majorityā€™s will. Remember?

You know, George, you really have a nasty habit of claiming others said things they didn’t say. You really should work on that. Some would say you lie with regularity.

In one breath, you insist that gays and liberals should be searching for a cure for homosexuality, and in the next breath, you admit that there IS no cure. So what DO you want? For people to be WASTING their time and money looking for something that you agree doesnā€™t exist?

You really are the moron, aren’t you?

Is there a cure for cancer? How about for mental illnesses like bi-polarism, manic depression, pedophilia? Nope, but that doesn’t mean that we should not continue to look for cures for those illnesses that plague humans. But to read what you wrote [poorly] why look for a cure if we don’t already have one. Because a cure doesn’t exist NOW doesn’t mean we should just stop looking.

Youā€™ve LOST the battle against gay rights in the courts of law and
Youā€™ve LOST the battle against gay rights in the court of public opinion.
Continuing in the same futile direction ā€“ as if the outcome might miraculously morph into your fantasy dream world ā€“ is insane.

No, George, we’ve all lost. When the SCOTUS now can create law, instead of determining the Constitutionality of a law passed by the Congress, we’ve all lost. You sold your soul cheaply. Today you think you got what you wanted. When the pendulum swings back, and it is you that is watching your liberties being eviscerated because of another special interest group, you won’t be so cocky.

You seem to think because the SCOTUS violated the very Constitution it is sworn to defend, that public opinion just miraculously swung hard in favor of sodomy. Overnight, everyone who disagreed with same-sex marriage is now on board. You are only fooling yourself. I would say that the pendulum is beginning to swing away from that thinking with the actions of queers toward those of religious beliefs. Nothing is static, George, and the opinion on abortion now compared to 20 years ago is a clear example of that.

As queers push for more and more indoctrination in the public schools, you are going to see the push-back. Your ilk wasn’t smart enough to know when to quit.

@George Wells: re #290 to RT if you get screwed or drown yourself in a sewer —IT DON’T MATTER—–well it might to his wife and his only FA follower 05.
Maybe not 05??

@George Wells:Just for the record, you’re the one that came up the GET OVER IT statement, in 285.

Neither does it make the front page when some queer picks you up with hopes of making it past first base with you. IT ISNā€™T NEWSWORTHY.
GET OVER IT!

Not too surprising to learn that you state that you know that homosexuals prey on young boys and consider it to be normal. Just for the record, I’m an old guy and have never even thought about having sex with an underage girl other than when I was underage myself. Nope, it’s not normal, it’s a mental disorder.

@retire05: Retire, I don’t think we could go back and find where George admitted that all or most homosexuals are also pedophiles. He is now claiming that almost all homos are pursuing young boys. He wasn’t saying that before the Supreme Court ruled. Now it’s ok to admit that the goal of homosexuals is the same as the goal of pedophiles.

@rich wheeler:

drown yourself in a sewer

you swimming in a sewer? We don’t do that over here in Louisiana. We prefer fresh water.
You do any parading this weekend? I didn’t see any homo marches on tv.

You’re kinda all in with the Homo cliques now Rich?

@Redteam: You’re the guy that is always inquiring about ass-less chaps and gay parades. You got nothing better to do or as suggested are you getting off on it?
You can’t find where George “admitted all or most homosexuals are pedophiles.” Because you’re caught again in one of your many lies RT.

@Redteam:

From May 1989 through April 1990, 1001 adult homosexual and bisexual men attending sexually transmitted disease clinics were interviewed regarding potentially abusive sexual contacts during childhood and adolescence. 37% of participants reported they had been encouraged or forced to have sexual contact before age 19 with an older or more powerful partner; 94% occurred with men. Median age of the participants at first contact was 10; Median age difference between partners was 11 years.

L.S. Doll, ā€œSelf-Reported Childhood and Adolescent Sexual Abuse Among Homosexual Bisexual Men,ā€ Child Abuse and Neglect 16, no 6. (1992) pp. 855-64.

@rich wheeler:

Youā€™re the guy that is always inquiring about ass-less chaps and gay parades. You got nothing better to do or as suggested are you getting off on it?

I may have to go back and check but I think it was you that made the proud announcement that you and your missus had participated in a homosexual pride parade and was now all in on the lifestyle. Especially if it involves killing a few babies.

You canā€™t find where George ā€œadmitted all or most homosexuals are pedophiles.ā€

Are you senile? look about two comments above your last one, it’s there is ‘rainbow colors’. I would say black and white but you’d say that was racist.

Because youā€™re caught again in one of your many lies RT.

That’s not quite as bad as you in your assless chaps.

Richie, just so you don’t get confused, here’s Georges’s statement.

Adults ā€“ both heterosexual AND homosexual, are trying to ā€“ and sometimes succeeding in ā€“ having sex with minors every day,

@retire05, #297:

I’m guessing that any sample taken of men attending sexually transmitted disease clinics might include an unusually high percentage of men who engage in high risk sexual behaviors. If they hadn’t done, they wouldn’t be in the clinic. Doll’s study likely reveals a correlation between childhood molestation and subsequent risky sexual behavior, not necessarily between childhood molestation and homosexuality. I’m guessing that a similar relationship could be found between risky behavior in adult heterosexual females and their childhood molestation by adult males.

This is like studies suggesting that marijuana is a cause of criminal behavior. Correlation is not causation. It’s having made marijuana use a crime to begin with creates the correlation that is being noted.