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The pipe of the racism piperĀ is playing and the lemmings hear the call. One after another politicians run to the front of the political correctness cliff and jump off blathering about how the Confederate flag has to come down and even how the next symbol of oppression must also find the dustbin of history:

Senate Majority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has joined calls to remove a statue of Kentucky-native Jefferson Davis from the state capitol building.

The statue of Jefferson Davis has been in the rotunda of the Kentucky Capitol building since 1936, but it has come under fire by McConnell, GOP Gubernatorial candidate Matt Bevin, and ā€œtop Republicans in Kentuckyā€™s House and Senate.ā€

According to WAVE 3, McConnell gave a measured response to questions about removing the statue, saying, ā€œMaybe a better place for that would be the Kentucky History Museum, which is also in the state Capitol.ā€

Frankly, I think the Confederate flag flying in the South probably should have been taken down years ago but thanks to democrats like Fritz Hollings up it went.

Retailers lined up and jumped off the cliff as well. Amazon stated it will no longer sell the Confederate flag, but it will continue to sell Communist merchandise.

Amazon sells a huge variety of shirts, posters, you-name-it featuring the hammer and sickle, Joseph Stalinā€™s mustache, all things Che Guevara, Vladimir Lenin and other colorful revolutionaries who fought to make the world a better place, man. Guevaraā€™s book Guerilla Warfare is on sale in four different formats. In one of the worst genocides in modern times, Stalin forcibly starved Ukrainian peasants in whatā€™s known as the Holodomor, a ā€œterror-famineā€ that left anywhere from 2.4 million to 7.5 million Ukrainian peasants dead in 1933.

Nazi merchandise? Sure.

Walmart has pulled the Confederate flag but it will be happy to sell you a poster of Che Guevara.

ā€œWe never want to offend anyone with the products that we offer. We have taken steps to remove all items promoting the confederate flag from our assortment ā€” whether in our stores or on our web site,ā€ said Walmart spokesman Brian Nick. ā€œWe have a process in place to help lead us to the right decisions when it comes to the merchandise we sell. Still, at times, items make their way into our assortment improperly ā€” this is one of those instances.ā€

“We never want to offend anyone with the products that we offer.”

Well, a lot us find Communists and Nazism offensive. A lot of us find the aggrandizement of philosophies that has killed millions after millions of people offensive.

“We never want to offend anyone with the products that we offer.”

Hmm. Can’t help but wonder- will that eventually include the American flag?

Increasingly, the American flag- the flag of the United States of America- is becoming more and more offensive to the left.

Hispanics find the American flag offensive

Muslims find the flag offensive.

Illegals? I guess they don’t mind as long as the priorities are in order:

Flag stomping has become a liberal past time

Rappers find the flag offensive.

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Activists find the flag offensive.

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Oh, and kill whitey while we’re at it.

Liberal educators find the flag offensive.

Wearing the American flag is offensive.

And the Obama mentor in whose living room the political career of Barack Obama was spawned?

 

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As soon as there are enough votes to be had and voters to be pandered to, democrats will call for the removal of the US flag and replace it with something closer to their hearts.

 

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What comes after that? Burning the books about the Confederacy?

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Poor Dr J is a sadz panda
Even WalMart has turned against him
Although he now says that he personally believes that the rebel battle flag should not be flown he was too polite to mention it to them
The free market??? No longer gets too choose what it sells and doesn’t sell. These corporations must adhere to what Dr J deems politically correct. Perhaps one day we may see Dr J marching in protest over Che posters at WalMart. Or against that well known socialist Santa Claus who is always giving away the labor of his communally captive elves.

Well, a lot us find Communists and Nazism offensive

If the left doesn’t find something offensive, they won’t call for its removal therefore anything depicting those two things won’t be in their crosshairs. Well, maybe Nazism because they try to associate that with right wing when in fact it is left wing.

The left is demagogueing this big time for if anyone on the right objects to the symbols being removed, they are racist and if they decide to pick their battles wisely and ignore this one, they will be deemed sell-outs by their supporters.

And then we have this bit a propaganda from the Slimes who no doubt is trying to get their fair share of exploitation out of Charleston. Look at the numbers they cite and then move the start date from the “study” they reference from 9/12/01 to 9/10/01 and see if their narrative falls flat.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=2

@another vet: Left wing Right wing chicken wing. Let the people of South Carolina decide if the flag should fly over the state capital.The actions of this self proclaimed racist may actually be an impetus towards healing a long standing division in The Palmetto State.
I’ve always thought Chaleston—America’s friendliest city—a great city.

You nailed it.

Everything they say about the Confederate flag, they’ve said about the American flag.

and don’t even get me started on the Mexican flag.

The weird part is, I’m a Northerner (as opposed to a Yankee) born and raised, 400 years back, but, the more they want the Stars and Bars down, the more I want to keep it up.

Crosses are offensive. How about impose economic sanctions on the churches that refuse to comply with removal?

Maybe burn down the ones that resist, and revise history to make them the bad guys.

The collective does not seem to have a problem with the star and crescent. Brave new world.

And yes, I am from the South. And from the underground railroad.
My people could not wear eagle feathers in public until Nixon.

Symbols of rebellion against the State are people.

Well,I really don’t give a fat baby’s butt who I offend or if I’m “politically correct”….I’m an Ole Miss alumnus and I still wave the Rebel flag during football games…..if any panty wetting lefties have a problem with that,the can come see me in Houston and tell me so face to face..I’m the easiest man in town to find

@another vet #4 –

It seems those cited in the NYT article are ready to welcome those nice boys from ISIS into their homes and neighborhoods. They seem to be unfazed by beheadings, rapes, sex slavery, and the like.

@rich wheeler: I stated on the other thread that it is the people of SC who should make the decision about the Confederate flag being flown in their state capital. If individual people want to fly that flag on their property, who am I or you to tell them what they can fly? Instead of this being about an isolated incident about someone who killed 9 people because he was a racist, this has now ballooned into a national argument about a flag. Never let a crisis (in this case 9 dead Americans) go to waste. If Obama wants everything that he considers to be dividing the country to be put in a museum, then perhaps they should get a room ready for him too.

@David:That would make for one big happy family. Up until ISIS started whacking their naĆÆve apologists of course.

@rich wheeler:

Chaleston

is that near Charleston? Now that Jim Webb says the Confederate flag is ok, who you gonna support? You haven’t slapped any mosquitoes or flies today have you? remember life is precious.

@Redteam: CHALESTON That’s the Southern pronunciation lol
Life is very precious for all sentient beings–we are in agreement on that
I’m all in with Jim—-maybe Nikki for VEEP?.

See Gov. Bobby just joined the fray–don’t think he’ll move the needle.

@rich wheeler:

maybe Nikki for VEEP?

not eligible, not Natural Born citizen, as in, Cruz, Rubio, Jindal

@rich wheeler:

CHALESTON Thatā€™s the Southern pronunciation lol

Nah, I lived within 65 miles of Charleston for 15 years and didn’t hear it called that.

@Redteam:What’s with all these ineligible Repubs.. Actually shows diversity—a good thing.

Why would the American flag have to come down? It’s not a modern symbol of racism, bigotry and white supremacy, the Confederate flag is. Is that really unclear?

Slippery-slope arguments are usually nonsense. This one certainly is.

@Robbins Mitchell: I married into an Ole Miss family – Hotty Toddy!

I agree with most of what you say, but to say that Hispanics (whatever that means) hate the flag is a bridge too far. Although I share your anguish with knowing that we are surrounded by imbeciles with little to no knowledge of our history, I can tell you with complete certainty not all of us who come from Spanish speaking countries hate the flag. In fact many of us who have come from tyrannical regimes respect and revere the flag more than many who have been born and raise here and have been radicalized by the left.
Stupidity is not owned by any one group or ethnicity… Which reminds me of a quote from Facundo Cabral, an Argentinian writer:

“My grandfather was a very brave man, who only feared idiots.
When I asked him why, he responded:
Because there are too many of them, and since they are the majority, they even elect the president.”

Good post otherwise

@Gary Miller:

Why would the American flag have to come down? Itā€™s not a modern symbol of racism, bigotry and white supremacy, the Confederate flag is

Tell that to the Cherokee, Muskogee, Seminole, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Piegan, Cheyenne, Navajo, Apache and Comanche.

Th@retire05: That is just type of tripe to which people like you have been conditioned. If you bothered to read a little history, you would know that the world is, has been, and will always be forged by force. You could make that argument about anyone or anything, including the American Indians who used to war against each other and take the women as slaves.
Seriously, think twice before embarrassing yourself.

How did we get to this point where a flag, a damn flag, is demonized in order for the left to impose even more political correctness (cultural Marxism) on the nation? Time after time we have seen on the talking heads news channels a photo of the South Carolina shooter with a Confederate battle flag. How many of those taking heads, now demanding the total annihilation of the Confederate battle flag have shown the photos of the South Carolina shooter burning the United States flag? Not even Fox, who is turning more and more left with every passing day, has done that. I’d really like to know who started all this crap.

The left wing could not use the gun “control” mantra for this shooting because the shooter purchased his gun legally using all the “controls” that Obama advocated. So they had to come up with something, anything to blame. While they should have blamed the shooter, nah, that wasn’t going to work.

The North, and most of it’s talking heads, have been disparaging the Southern states since before the not-so Civil War. Nothing has changed. Paint the South as nothing more than a bunch of racist red-necks who want to kill black people. Forget that no one has owned another human being or been enslaved in 150 years. There is not one person alive today that has ever owned another human being or been owned by another human being. Or that today, 150+ years after the Emancipation Proclamation we see more whites being murdered by blacks than the other way around. Ignore reality so that we can, once again, force an action that was not required.

But, but……………the KKK, people will say. Never mind that the Klan reached its zenith in Indiana, not some Southern state.

“The Indiana Klan was perhaps the most powerful Ku Klux Klan in the nation. It claimed over 30% of white male Hoosiers.”

Take a look at the photographs from some of the huge marches the Klan made through Midwestern and Northern states and you will not see one Confederate battle flag but you will see lots of Stars and Stripes.

The old flag manufacturer in the United States, Valley Forge Flag Company, has announced it will no longer make or sell Confederate flags. Yes, yes, I realize it is a company in a northern state, but ironically it has on it’s website today that South Carolina is the most patriotic state out of all 50 states. What is next? Will Valley Forge Flag Co. now cease to make Texas flags because it might offend someone of Mexican heritage?

The left pushes their agendas on us and we are supposed to just shut up and take it. If we don’t, we are labeled by some pejorative that ends in “phobia.” But if it is something they don’t like, the ban it, make it illegal, demonize it and those who support whatever it is that they don’t like.

The shooter who killed those 9 religious people didn’t beat them to death with a flag. But Obama’s friend, William Ayers, most certainly created havoc where people lost their lives over a flag that he hated. The U.S. flag.

I have never flown the Confederate battle flag. Never even owned one. But today, the Confederate battle flag has become a symbol of our Constitutional First Amendment and I intend to buy one. If it pisses off the left, all the better.

I also am going to demand that every university, like the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee and Prarie View A & M, a traditional black university, or high school, like the ones in California, that uses the panther as a mascot be required to change their mascot. Why are public universities and public high schools allowed to use a mascot that I find objective because it reminds me of the Black Panthers/New Black Panthers? The flag of Mexico also flies in front of the Bob Bullock Texas History Museum. Using the rational of the left, we won the war against Mexico, they were the losers, and their flag should be removed from in front of the Museum which is public property.

Our nation has finally jumped the shark and gone into full blown insanity.

@Paul Acosta:

Please. don’t presume to tell me about my own heritage. Give me the black equivalent of Sand Creek.

@retire05:

If you want to fly a modern symbol of bigotry and display your allegiance to white supremacy, no one is stopping you. Since the early 60s, the Confederate flag has been raised in southern states in defiance of impending civil rights legislation. The call to move it to a museum has been sounded for years, and now, with striking speed, level-headed people are realizing that such an egregious symbol should not be flown over tax-supported buildings. You call it insanity. I call it justice.

@Gary Miller:

If you want to fly a modern symbol of bigotry and display your allegiance to white supremacy, no one is stopping you.

And obviously, no one can stop you from exhibiting what an unlearned and uninformed parrot of the left you are.

Since the early 60s, the Confederate flag has been raised in southern states in defiance of impending civil rights legislation.

Really? I guess Dr. King marched against anyone flying the Confederate battle flag. Please give me the quotes of his speeches where he promoted the removal of it from any area.

This whole brouhaha is nothing more than another false flag of the left, creating division where there was none. Show me all those petitions that were filed by South Carolinians demanding the flag be removed until the left wing press got their Hanes in a wad trying to make excuses for the actions of a mad person.

Perhaps you would be interested to know that Senator Pinckney of South Carolina, a black man, voted to move the Confederate battle flag to the Civil War Memorial in 2000. Maybe you should call him and tell him that the flag is nothing more than a symbol of racism, according to the left that has nothing better to do than try to instigate racial division so they can keep the blacks voting for them.

Louis Farrakhan addressed hundreds Wednesday at the Metropolitan AME Church in D.C. , attacking the American flag, saying ā€œWhat the hell is the use of us paying allegiance to a flag under which we get no justice?ā€
So, I guess the calls for pulling down the stars and stripes is underway.
How did the crowd react?
His comments were met by cheers and applause.

@retire05: Retire05 my response was meant for the guy that brought up the nonsense about the American Indians. But to your point, as is always the case with the left, the issue is never the issue. Is not about the flag, it is about impugning the southerners who refuse to accept the left’s hateful mantra and still believe in God and country.

@Nanny G: The people of D.C will never display the grace and forgiveness shown by the relatives of the nine slain Blacks in Charleston–truly amazing.

@Paul Acosta:

: Retire05 my response was meant for the guy that brought up the nonsense about the American Indians.

Let me remind you what your post said:

Th@retire05: That is just type of tripe to which people like you have been conditioned. If you bothered to read a little history, you would know that the world is, has been, and will always be forged by force. You could make that argument about anyone or anything, including the American Indians who used to war against each other and take the women as slaves.
Seriously, think twice before embarrassing yourself.

Just who were you directing those comments toward?

Don’t pee on my leg and expect me to think it’s raining.

On all the blogs I post, I have been asking the same question. In addition now every single state flag will be reviewed and forced to stop flying. enough is enough. communism and radical islam has infiltrated the WH and no one is doing a damn thing to stop it. Is it too late? I pray it is not.

@Gary Miller:

That’s only your opinion. So when the liberal media shouts loud enough from the rooftops an opinion rather than fact, the PC police come arunnin’ in doing their dirty work of distorting th truth and assassinating the characters of those who dare oppose them

Even Dr J’s main crush Scott Walker has flipped and flopped and now says to take the rebel battle flag down.

Ga AL MS all are re-surrendering their rebel flags. All are also states that take more from DC than they give in taxes.
Even Boise Idaho home base of the Aryan Nation and Christian Identity are removing offensive flags
Of course some people still believe that political violence is the way to go. Look at Mitchell Robbins, a quick google will show that he is always threatening and implying violence but how could that be ?? I thought only the left did that?
And of course posters here read what he says and agree with him, well fortunately we live in a land where law rules, not personal violence.

@retire05ow: My comment was meant for whomever said:
“Tell that to the Cherokee, Muskogee, Seminole, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Piegan, Cheyenne, Navajo, Apache and Comanche.”
If you were the one who said that, then it was directed to you, if someone else said it, then he is the one I meant it for.
Is that clear enough?

Sorry Mitch but MI is removing the taint from its flag.
Are you old enough to remember the white riot that happened when James Meredith registered at Ole Mis? I am
2 people were killed when that white mob went nuts at the thought of a black man at their school hundreds injured It was the biggest white racial riot in my lifetime, because a black man wanted to go to your school.
4 years later Meredith was shot by a sniper hiding in ambush
In 2014 a noose was put around the neck of his statue at that school
So wave your rebel flag Mitch

@drjohn: Is anyone surprised it took less than two days?

hey Mitch are you one of those moochers getting a check from Obama?

@Paul Acosta: Welcome to the world of amiable discourse with the venerable 05.
I’ve been meaning to ask her if she has more or less Indian blood than Elizabeth Warren–if you get the chance Paul please ask her,

@rich wheeler: I honestly had to do a double take to make sure I was writing in English. lol

@drjohn: just be thankful that is was a Farrakan’s hate rant, and not an Obama executive order.

@Paul Acosta:

I said it. I said it in response to this:

#17

Gary Miller

Why would the American flag have to come down? Itā€™s not a modern symbol of racism, bigotry and white supremacy, the Confederate flag is.

Now., you may think that the American flag doesn’t represent racism, bigotry and white supremacy, along with genocide, but I can guarantee you that the many Native Americans would argue that point. And your saying “You could make that argument about anyone or anything, including the American Indians who used to war against each other and take the women as slaves” (dog whistle for hey, they were killing each other anyway) is just as inane as if I said “those that were brought here as slaves used to war against each other and take the women as slaves in Africa” absolved someone else for the oppression against the Africans.

I have made the point repeatedly; ALL races are guilty of oppression against another race. Not to mention that the South Carolina shooter’s first target was a university but he changed his mind due to the armed security at the university. Does anyone talk about that? Nope. Does anyone talk about him burning the U.S. flag? Nope.

We are to believe that although the nation has changed to the point where a half black man could be elected to the highest office in the land, but that the opinion of what the Confederate flag stands for to Southerners has not changed and is still a confirmation of their overt racism? Really?

Don’t know where the ow in my moniker came from.

@rich wheeler:

: Welcome to the world of amiable discourse with the venerable 05.
Iā€™ve been meaning to ask her if she has more or less Indian blood than Elizabeth Warren

If I had one drop of Indian blood, I would have one more than Elizabeth Warren, proven to be a liar by the heritage research people from Tahlequah. My family is listed on the Dawes Roll. Hers is not.

Don’t really get it? Consider an analogous situation.

@Gary Miller:

You call it insanity. I call it justice.

you can call it anything you want. but the flag will not be taken down in SC because it is political death to the politicians that mention it. Nikki Haley is not running for re-election, and Lindsey Graham just won a new 6 year term so he’s not up. If he were, he would keep his mouth shut.

@Gary Miller:

Why would the American flag have to come down? Itā€™s not a modern symbol of racism, bigotry and white supremacy, the Confederate flag is. Is that really unclear?

kinda depends on the perspective of the viewer doesn’t it?

@john: 33

Ga AL MS all are re-surrendering their rebel flags.

Ignorance must be blissful. Neither Ga or Al fly the flag, Ms has one in it’s state flag and it’s staying there. The one in SC will stay on the state capital grounds where it is.

@john: Are you in possession of enough intelligence to remember that the Democrats ruled the south then, opposed Civil Rights in Congress and filled the ranks of the KKK? Things are much better under Republicans and would continue to prove were left wing race baiters to stay out of matters.

@Gary Miller:

Why would the American flag have to come down? Itā€™s not a modern symbol of racism, bigotry and white supremacy, the Confederate flag is. Is that really unclear?

The standard for offense is the tail wagging the dog. All it takes is one person and he has already spoken, as if on cue. And I stand immutably by my assertion that once is enough money for Hillary or there are enough votes for democrats they would abandon the national symbol. They are without principle.

‘Finish the mission, kill slave masters’

‘Finish the mission, kill slave masters’

Jefferson Memorial, Confederate statues enter national race debate

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-thomas-jefferson-confederate-statues-20150624-story.html

All it will take is enough money for Hillary or enough potential votes for democrats. They stand for nothing.

Their comments have been picked up by conservative news sites and blogs. On Infowars, blogger Paul Joseph Watson compared taking down the Jefferson Memorial to the logic of Islamic State terrorists “who have spent the last year tearing down historical statues and monuments because they offend their radical belief system.”

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-thomas-jefferson-confederate-statues-20150624-story.html

I agree. We are coming to a time of purging of history. As I said, I don’t care about the Confederate flag and I think it should have been taken down a long time ago but as Gary Miller pointed out (for a different reason) we are on another slippery slope.

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