Boehner Gets It Right…Invites Netanyahu To Address Congress In Response To Obama’s Iran Lies

@Redteam, #100:

But DF, you still haven’t told us what Boehner ‘negotiated’ and I’m sure you’re not because you don’t have a clue.

It’s not a Where’s Waldo puzzle. I’ve told you two or three times already. (I’m beginning to lose count.) Here’s the most recent. But hey, maybe this exchange of favors actually wasn’t the product of a negotiation. Maybe they hit on the plan and worked out the details telepathically or something, with no discussion whatsoever:

Pelosi negotiated nothing. She conveyed a message to the Bush administration that Assad would be willing to negotiate.

Boehner, on the other hand, has taken it upon himself to grant Netanyaho a priceless opportunity to deliver his hardliner sales pitch—which is not shared by the political party opposing him back home—directly to the U.S. Congress, and in a global spotlight. In return, Boehner is provided with a means to politically attack the Obama administration, with the added benefit that it could overturn a current diplomatic discussion with Iran that Boehner objects to.

Boehner and Netanyaho have agreed on a quid pro quo exchange of favors that serves each politically, and that advances their own foreign policy agendas by directly interfering with that of the Obama administration. In Boehner’s case, negotiating such an arrangement is a clear violation of the Logan Act.

In Netanyaho’s case, he’s certainly doing no favor to Israel by alienating the President of the one ally they’re most dependent upon for support in a hostile region.

First, he should probably be given a breathalyzer test.

@Greg: No answer eh Greggie?? First question is can he invite a world leader and ally to speak to a joint session of Congress?? yes or no please!! Secondly should he have charges brought against him for doing so?? Yes or no please!!

@retire05: Problem is when you get Greggie cornered he runs to mama, that is to say change the subject, blame Bush or the Republicans, or make an accusation about the current event that is not even being discussed. He is basically a chicken shit who fails t0 deal with reality if it means admitting President Oblola has failed!!

@Greg:

This may come as a shocking revelation to you, but making arrangements for a foreign head of state to deliver a speech on the floor of the U.S. Congress necessarily involves negotiations.

Thanks for admitting that Nancy Pelosi negotiated with the President of Mexico, something you claim the Speaker of the House has no right to do.

@Greg: I hope it is significant and I can grasp it!! WE have a Leader of the House who has the courage to recognize that our current President has failed on the international stage by slapping our ally Israel in the face and pretends to be in some sort of negotiation for a deal with Iran our enemy. There has been NO indication that Iran will stop enrichment of uranium or that our weak President will do anything about it but give away more of our countries security!! Yes Greggie it IS significant and necessary given these circumstances!!

@Greg: Greggie, you have confirmed what I have been saying all along. Your idiotic moronic President is a sympathizer to Muslims and antagonistic to our ally Israel. Israel deserves no blame for the US allowing Iran to continue to enrich uranium, develop it’s neuclear arsenal, and fund terrorism throughout the region, Israel knows this for a fact and Obola refuses to listen!! He is clearly an idiot and dangerous to our country!!

@Redteam: Greggie will resort to just making stuff up before he will admit he’s lost again!!

@Greg:

Refer to post #1o1, which clearly states what each gets from the deal.

I know you’re not gonna understand this, but 101 DOES NOT say what either gets, only that they got quid pro quo. So if one got quid and one got quo, who got pro?

Having (NOT YET ) answered that same question numerous times already, I’m (AGAIN) not going to do so again.

There I fixed that up so that you said what you were trying to say.

@Greg: So you admit there was no ‘negotiations’, just your huffing and puffing. I have to agree with Retire05 that Pelosi did far more negotiation than Boehner, who, apparently, according to you didn’t do any. Sending him a Hallmark card with an invitation to speak and a return note accepting, hardly constitutes ‘negotiation’.

Why don’t you just move over there to Iran with your buddies and we won’t have to read your crap. Be sure to wear your Burka.

I know you’re not gonna understand this, but Boehner can address the House whenever he wants to and say whatever he wants to, he does not have to negotiate with anyone to say it for him. You have the strangest ideas of how the US Congress operates.

The highest ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, says the Obama administration sounds as if it’s getting talking points from Iran about its negotiations with the so-called Islamic republic.

“I have to be honest with you, the more I hear from the administration and its quotes, the more it sounds like talking points that come straight out of Tehran,” Menendez charged at a Wednesday hearing.

“And it feeds to the Iranian narrative of victimization when they are the ones with original sin,” he continued. “An illicit nuclear weapons program going back of the course of 20 years that they are unwilling to come clean on,”

@Redteam:

White House Caught in Lie over Netanyahu Speech

On Friday, White House spokesperson said that President Barack Obama would not meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when he visits Washington, D.C. in March due to a policy of not meeting with foreign leaders prior to their election campaigns, “to avoid the appearance of influencing a democratic election in a foreign country.” However, that excuse proves empty against the historical record, as Bill Clinton met then-Prime Minister Shimon Peres in 1996.

(Snip)

In addition to that glaring example of White House intervention in an Israeli election, there is also an example as recently as several days ago, when President Obama hosted British Prime Minister David Cameron, who is in facing a tough re-election fight. Cameron, though a Conservative, touts his friendship with Obama, and has hired several former Obama advisers to assist him. In addition, in 2008, Obama sought to meet with foreign leaders to assist his presidential effort.

Furthermore, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi spearheaded her own, independent diplomatic initiatives after her party took Congress in the 2006 midterm elections, famously visiting dictator Bashar al-Assad in 2007 in a statement of defiance against the George W. Bush administration. Pelosi was followed by a string of other politicians, almost all of whom were Democrats, who sought to repair relations with Syria as a protest against what they saw as Bush’s warlike approach.

However, part of Obama’s election campaign team has been sent to Israel and is very active interfering with the Israel’s elections.

Obama Campaign Team Arrives in Israel to Defeat Netanyahu in March Elections

Just days after the Obama White House accused House Speaker John Boehner of “breaking protocol” by inviting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address a joint session of Congress, a team of up to five Obama campaign operatives has reportedly arrived in Israel to lead a campaign to defeat the Israeli Prime Minister in upcoming national elections scheduled for March 17.

The anti-Netanyahu, left wing Israeli newspaper Haaretz reports a group called “One Voice,” reportedly funded by American donors, is paying for the Obama campaign team. That group is reportedly being led by Obama’s 2012 field director Jeremy Bird.

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For all the harsh accusations of foreign interference currently being leveled against GOP Speaker John Boehner, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli Ambassador Ron Dermer, reports of Obama operatives actively working to unseat a democratically elected leader of a strong U.S. ally is hardly the news it might appear to be.

The Obama White House has aggressively worked to defeat allied leaders it has not liked and to elect or re-elect foreign leaders it does like. As the Times of Israel recently reported, the list of Obama Administration meddling in foreign elections is a long one.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel Merkel, an Obama Administration ally, was hosted at the White House prior to recent German elections. Former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown of the left wing Labor Party visited 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, not once, but twice prior to British elections. Those were won by Conservative party leader David Cameron, who himself visited Washington last week at Obama’s invitation to lobby the U.S. Congress against adopting a new sanctions measure to help confront Iran’s burgeoning nuclear program. Oddly, that’s the very issue Obama and the mainstream media now roundly condemn John Boehner for involving himself in.

You can continue banging on your pot lids and pans together and marching around the room shouting, children, but the fact remains that John Boehner secretly negotiated a speaking op before Congress for a foreign head of state which is calculated to further their own respective political agendas while undermining Obama’s diplomatic efforts to curtail Iran’s nuclear weapon program. If diplomacy fails, the only remaining options will be either acceptance of Iran as a nuclear state, or military action to stop it. Military action to stop it could rapidly escalate into a war that could have far worse consequences for the United States than our recent misadventure in Iraq. Russia and North Korea would almost certainly take advantage of the opening.

You apparently can’t figure out a situation that can be clearly expressed in a single short paragraph. Somewhere along the way you get lost, and immediately revert to rants about Obama. At which point someone always seems to mention Bush.

I’ve come to dislike Netanyahu. I don’t like the fact that he’s attempting to manipulate the United States into undertaking a potentially disastrous war against Israel’s enemies. When we go to war, we should go to war for our own reasons and on our own terms. We don’t want Benjamin Netanyaho to decide that he can push that button by suddenly launching an Israeli air attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities. Giving him that much control would be stupid.

My sympathy for Boehner’s difficulties has also flown right out the window. From my perspective, his move against Obama has just increased the level of danger to the United States. I don’t know what the hell he’s thinking. That’s not his risk to take, for the sake of domestic politics.

The spam filter doesn’t seem to like my comments today. Perhaps that’s for the best. Dealing with the illogical assertions is like trying to sweep back the tide with a broom.

@Bill:

not everyone is going to sit idly by

But Greg will.

But he won’t know it. He’ll just be there with his beanie with the propellar on top, blowing soap bubbles and saying What me Worry?
It’s a good thing we had some Americans here back when it was necessary to create this country. If we’d had a bunch of Greggie’s, we’d all be speaking English.

I’m making no further comments on this thread. Anything I post more than a couple of lines long is being blocked.

Everything has been rescued from the spam filter. Thanks. Sorry about the repeated paragraphs in #126.

Are you an actor playing a part?

That’s a odd question, coming from the ringmaster of a sock puppet circus.

If it’s wrong for Boehner to try to influence the Israeli election…

That’s not the issue. What’s wrong is Boehner’s exchange of favors with a foreign head of state, with the objective of sabotaging the Executive Branch’s diplomatic efforts to curtail Iran’s nuclear program. That Netanyahu might benefit in the Israeli elections is only relevant in that it was part of an improper exchange.

@Greg: Please detail the “favors” that will be exchanged. Please take your meds and let more cerebral people discuss the issues here.

@Greg:

coming from the ringmaster of a sock puppet circus.

Don’t know why you persist in quoting Karl Marx. I also don’t understand why you keep your puppets in your socks. Is this a liberal thing?

@Greg:

Do you realize how many times I’ve already done so in this thread,

Yes, exactly none. Referring to ‘favors’ is hardly an enumeration of what those favors are. That’s what we’d like to see. A list of the favors, not just the word ‘favors’. I don’t really expect you to understand or know the difference.

@Greg:

@retire05, #136, & @Randy, #137:

Please detail the “favors” that will be exchanged.

Do you realize how many times I’ve already done so in this thread, and how many times I’ve pointed that out? Feel free to go back and count them.

Boehner provided something Netanyaho wanted; in return, Netanyaho provides something that Boehner wants. This is what is known as an exchange.

Well, if you have been so clear about what the “something” is, for both Netanyahu (you consistently spelled it wrong, Gullible Greggie) and Boehner, why so reluctant to explain it, in clear, concise English, again?

Are you saying that the invitation, by the Speaker of the House, to speak to Congress always entails “an exchange” of “something”?

Hezb’Allah bombed into Israel today killing two and injuring 7 others.
Jan Psaki came out and, in effect, said, (I kid you not!) it is OK if Israel simply does a bit of tit-for-tat response, but it must be proportional!
Meanwhile ISIS is thanking Obama for all its new power and territory by promising to behead him IN the white House!
Add to this Obama sending his own team of crack election experts to try to defeat Bibi and I’d say it is the USA interfering in Israel’s affairs, not the other way around.
I can’t wait to hear Bibi’s speech.

@Greg:

Things don’t seem to be going exactly as planned:

Netanyahu Talk Stirs Backlash in Israeli Race

You don’t suppose Obama’s operatives over there actively working to undercut Netanyahu have anything to do with that, do you?

@Bill, #147:

“Obama operatives” don’t have to do much of anything. Did Netanyahu imagine that his political opponents back home wouldn’t point out the dangers of what he’s doing?