This is essentially the nexus of three articles that caught my eye. Barack Obama is on the edge of forcing a Constitutional crisis. Obama has already acted in an unconstitutional manner when he unilaterally rewrote IRS rules regarding Obamacare. Now he’s on the verge of doing it again. Remember- these aren’t extremists.
LET’S HOPE THIS IS A SIGN THAT SOMEONE THERE IS IN TOUCH WITH REALITY: WH: Obama undecided on immigration steps. “White House officials are downplaying stories that President Obama is prepared to take executive action on immigration that would allow millions of undocumented people to stay in the United States.” Such an action would be an extraconstitutional coup, entirely justifying the impeachment talk.
Actually, it might justify more. I can imagine governors — Rick Perry, perhaps — simply taking matters into their own hands. They’d have a better argument for self-help there under the Constitution — Article I sec. 10′s authorization to go to war when actually invaded, or in such danger as will admit of no delay — and the federal government’s default on its duty under the Constitution to protect them from invasion. There’s a lot of room for constitutional self-help there, and realistically what’s Obama going to do about it?
This is the tone of the media coverage right now: The president may get the occasional rebuke for impeachment-baiting, but what the White House wants to do on immigration is assumed to be reasonable, legitimate, within normal political bounds.
It is not: It would be lawless, reckless, a leap into the antidemocratic dark.
And an American political class that lets this Rubicon be crossed without demurral will deserve to live with the consequences for the republic, in what remains of this presidency and in presidencies yet to come.
That seems like an awfully strong word, but it is the term that distinguished law professor Glenn Reynolds, no hysteric, uses to describe the Obama administration’s oft-reported plan to issue executive amnesty to five or six million illegal immigrants in violation of federal law. Glenn’s characterization is a fair one. When a tyrant asserts the right to rule by decree in a state that has formerly been subject to the rule of law, he is commonly described as carrying out a coup d’etat.
That is just what the Obama administration has done, and reportedly will continue to do. When Obama changed the Affordable Care Act by decree–to name just one example, substituting “2014″ for “2013″ in a critical provision of the statute–he acted as a tyrant. In his refusal to enforce the immigration laws, contrary to the Constitution which requires him to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed,” he has acted like a tinpot dictator, asserting the right to change or ignore the law by fiat. If he now directly nullifies Section 274(a) of the Immigration and Nationalities Act by legalizing, and issuing work permits to, five or six million illegal immigrants, thereby repealing federal law by decree, how else can we describe his action but as a coup? The Obama administration openly takes the position that the rule of law no longer applies.
Hideraker creates the litmus test for a coup- could Nixon have gotten away with this?
Can you imagine the furor that would have resulted if President Nixon, in the midst of the Watergate crisis, had asserted the right to repeal or amend federal statutes by decree? No, actually, you can’t. Forget impeachment; he would have been escorted out of the Oval Office by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. What, then, makes Barack Obama special? How can he claim the right to rule by decree without suffering the same condemnation? Well, the answer is obvious: he is a Democrat. But is that really enough? No president, Democrat or Republican, has ever dreamed of asserting such unconstitutional authority.
Everyone knows why. 1. Obama is a democrat. 2. Obama is black. Opposing his imperious action is racist.
democrats have been employing the most cynical of ploys. They talk up impeachment because it is a fundraising success but you must also note that when the right is being pushed in a certain direction more is afoot. That “more” is cover for Obama to act extra-constitutionally.
Barack Obama has spent his tenure as President not respecting or enforcing the Constitution, but rather making every effort to circumvent it and distort it. We’re approaching a tipping point.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
When the millions of armed Americans show up at the White House, we will see who gets couped.
@Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:
The Constitution is a charter of powers and responsibilities lent to the government by The People. and the individual states they formed. A government that refuses to respect, abide by and be limited by the Constitution that created it, is a government without law. If Obama resorts to illegal executive action, and Congress allows him to get away with it, that will effectively tell the American people that the Constitution (the “Rule of Law”) is no longer in effect, as two branches of the government will have violated their oaths of office and shirked their responsibilities to uphold the Constitution. A lawless government that refuses to follow the very Constitution they are forsworn to uphold, also discard’s it’s legal authority to rule. When the Rule of Law will not be observed or respected by those entrusted to faithfully execute it, the government is in breach of contract and violates the public trust, the Rule of Law no longer exists.
I believe that Obama gleefully, and cynically sees amnesty as the last, desperately illegal, destructive action that he can enact to finalize the utter transformation of America. In one fell swoop, he can ensure eternal poverty on the majority of the people, including those he de facto grants amnesty to, and the Democrats will ensure that these pseudo-citizens will be allowed to vote.
The why for the “end of summer” window, is clearly so that the illegally-amnestied immigrants can be registered in time to be eligible as “green-card holding immigrants so as to vote in the November elections in each of the states. This is the only way that Democrats could possibly succeed in taking back both houses of Congress for Obama’s last two years in office, turning Obama (and Washington DC) from a “lame duck” into an unchained, unlimited oligarchy with the Democratic party turned overnight into a progressive powerhouse, while relegating the Republican party down to third party status. (Just imagine the incalculable damage that this evil progressive fascist machine can inflict on the people of this nation in that short period of time.)
Should this happen, there remains but one recourse left to the people, when their government sets aside the Rule of Law. The Democrats under Obama are setting this nation up for an ultimatum, an illegal Checkmate scenario in complete disdain of our Constitution. Democrats need to consider very well whether their greed for power is worth the utter destruction of the Constitution, Our Rule of Law, and the danger of civil war. I have little doubt that if Obama’s insists on enacting a mass illegal granting of amnesty, as his administration has indicated he is contemplating, this can only lead to insurrection.
If the congress doesn’t do anything ,how does the public start the process of getting him out of the White House.
What don’t you understand, the fool and his administration care noting for the Constitution or the American people.
A muslim terrorist sitting in the wipe house.
Obama: Our 3-in-1 Deity !
Obama’s Desk, Obama’s Chairs, Obama’s Bench.
This is what Obama seems to see instead of “the executive, legislative, and judicial branches” of our American government.
As one who promised change, furniture arranger Obama can subtly fit all those chairs and that bench into the Oval Office while few seem to notice or care!
America is the Tree of Liberty – the Tree that promises liberty and justice for all.
But America also provides for the pruning of any and all tyrants that are attached to the same Tree!
(For dessert Google “Zany Obama-Inspired Quips” and “The Background Obama Can’t Cover Up.”)
[What you see above is what I ran across on the exciting and honest net. Hope you like it.]
yes and I expect that point will be reached on Jan 20, 2017 when Mr Obozo is relieved of his duties.
@ Ditto #2:
Your hyperbolic account of the immigration “reforms” Obama enacted is about as far from the truth as is possible. Left-wing Liberals may have wanted Obama to grant “amnesty,” but he did not. Granting “amnesty” was not within the range of legal options Obama had to choose among. He re-arranged certain enforcement priorities, which is his prerogative as executor of laws the enforcement of which is grossly under-funded by Congress.
You should look further into your conspiracy theory concerning the voting privileges of immigrants, legal or otherwise. Green-card holders are “legal” but cannot vote in Federal elections, (the contests that elect U.S. Senators and members of the U.S. House of Representatives, and Presidents) and “illegal” immigrants cannot vote at all. Look it up.
Civil War? Insurrection?
You should be ashamed of the false poison you spit.
@George+Wells:
Illegal immigration is illegal, does that stop them? No. Democrats like you tell us that illegal immigrants are not eligible for hand outs, but the very agencies that provide entitlements have been caught red handed signing them up. Thanks to the Democrat pushed “motor voter” laws, there is no verification or checking whatsoever on whether a person who registers to vote at the DMV is eligible. A immigrant needs only check a little box to claim they are eligible and that’s good enough for you crooked Democrats. We also have Democrat campaign officials and others on video telling illegals that they can sign up to vote, knowing full well are not eligible. In some states they are even having classes for illegals in how they can sign up for Obamacare, So don’t come here and lie to us and expect anyone to believe your pompous trollish crap that ‘ because there are laws against it, it wont happen.’ Your disingenuous dissembling is fooling no one. We all know full well that it does indeed happen, that vote fraud is real, and it has been happening in the US since before even the Democrat’s corrupt Tammany Hall practices.
@Ditto #8:
Well, gee, Ditto, tell me exactly what “Democrats like you” stand for.
I have made it clear that I have voted Democrat precisely and ONLY because of the Republican’s war on gay people, of whom I am one. I side with Republicans on at least 80% of other issues – including illegal immigration – and for you to characterize my politics as similar to other Democrats’ is about as inaccurate as you can get.
Now, perhaps I confused you on this one comment:
“Green-card holders are “legal” but cannot vote in Federal elections.”
I guess that I failed to point out that they cannot LEGALLY vote in Federal elections, but I foolishly assumed that you’d be able to figure out the difference.
Try this one similar statement to see how my logic was working:
“You cannot go around robbing banks and shooting people indiscriminately.”
By your logic, you CAN do those things, right?
I am attempting to distinguish between what the rules are and the chaos that would result if the rules were never followed, which seems to be the ordinary state of affairs in the world as you see it.
Fine. Follow my advice and place a bounty on the heads of illegal immigrants, DEAD OR ALIVE, and watch how quickly illegal immigrants disappear. ALL OF THEM. Very few deaths would actually have to occur, and virtually NO taxpayer money would be expended. End of problem.
Does that sound like a Democrat idea?
Stupid Ditto!
@George Wells:
Walk like a duck, quack like a duck…Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell me another. If you aren’t a Democrat, you certainly support their agenda so much here that you might as well be a Democrat as far as we are concerned.
Oh, I understand the difference, but you failed in your declaration to make note that this does not stop them from voting in Federal (or local & state) elections which indicated that you thus fail to understand that illegal aliens have already shown that they little respect for our laws.
Wrong, that is a complete misrepresentation. My “logic” is that: making something against the law will not stop those individuals who care nothing about the rule of law from violating said law
Such an extremist viewpoint is not political in nature but sounds like the ravings typical of a sociopath. Are you a sociopath?
@Ditto: Ditto, I live in Louisiana and voter ID is required and no one votes illegally. If someone does figure out how to do so, it’s damn few. You would have to have a fake drivers license, and one hell of a lot of documentation is required to get a drivers license. States that do not require voter ID has rampant fraud in voting, dead people and illegal immigrants have no problem, but I guess that’s what the folks want as long as it’s getting the votes that they want.
I wouldn’t accuse GW of supporting illegals voting.
@Redteam:
I certainly hope you are right, but let us remember that Louisiana has had quite a history of, let us say, “dubious election results”, as well as having in the past had one of the least secure electronic voting machines that were on the market (roughly 15-18 years ago as I remember, as my state bought the exact same model until the citizens demanded they be replaced, because that model failed to generate a paper back-up as was required by state law). Maybe they have finally cleaned up the system there.
I don’t know if GW supports illegals voting or not, nor do I think I made such a specific claim that GW does. (Yes, I wrote that Democrats pushed motor voter laws which have enabled illegal vote registrations, and I wrote that GW tends on here to take the Democrat side in most discussions on FA, But it is stretching things to use that to support a claim that I accused GW of supporting illegal aliens voting). Yet, that is not what I was questioning. We all know that it it is illegal for them to vote, but it is either naive or disingenuous for him to so pompously assert that it is against the law (something which again we all here at FA know), without recognizing the reality that a good illegal votes are cast in every election by those ineligible to vote. GW has yet to admit that any immigrants have voted in elections. Are we to assume that he is completely ignorant of the fact that some have in fact done so and that some Democrats have aided and enabled them to do so?
I’ll note again that illegal immigration is also against Federal law, but you would have to be some kind of stupid to think that the law is being observed.
@Ditto #12:
“GW has yet to admit that any immigrants have voted in elections.”
Gee, Ditto, I looked back and couldn’t find where you ASKED me to admit to such a fact. Care to provide a link, and I’ll apologize.
Sure, voter fraud exists. BOTH sides have a record of voter mischief, but you won’t find me crying about the fact. I’ve never seen reliable statistics that indicate that the effect is anything more than insignificant. That’s why I don’t cry about it – because I doubt that any serious disenfranchisement has occurred as a result of it, either way. Also it’s kind of like I know that shop lifting adds to the cost of food and other retail goods, but I don’t really think that lobsters will get cheap if we find a way to stop people from tasting the grapes. And while we’re on the subject, let me remind you that you haven’t heard any objections from this conservative over voter ID laws… have you? Your effort to characterize me as a “liberal troll” is a laughable hallucination.
As for illegal immigration, YOUR resident rabid canine has repeatedly made the argument that illegal immigration is a imminent threat to our national security. She has predicted catastrophic financial devastation as a result of taxpayer funds being used to provide short-term health care and education to illegals on our soil. While I question whether the cost is really so intolerable and why it has suddenly become so, I am perfectly willing to concede her point that “illegal” immigrants ARE indeed breaking our laws AND that they MAY constitute a serious threat to our national security for the reasons she gives. Now, if illegal immigration really IS such a serious threat to our national security, how in GOD’S name is making illegal immigration a crime punishable by death any more sociopathic than is making TREASON similarly punishable? It isn’t, and you know it. You’re just afraid that Democrats might make political hay out of any Republican effort to increase the penalty for breaking immigration laws. Coward.
I gave you a perfectly logical solution. Inexpensive. Efficient. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 million illegal aliens would flood back into Mexico so quick that labor costs in agriculture and home-building would skyrocket. Is THAT what you’re afraid of? Then have your precious Republican majorities in congress pass some immigration reform that will allow the labor that we need to stay here LEGALLY, and stop whining so much about what Obama does while doing absolutely nothing yourselves. Get it?
@Ditto: @Ditto:
You’re certainly correct and I still won’t vouch for the accuracy of voting machines. My statement is only about the requirement to get into the voting booth. I’m sure that whoever has control of the voting procedures can influence machine results. At least Repubs now control most of the precincts in the state. I’m not for anyone changing the votes, but I’m sure it happens.
Again, I’m not speaking for GW, but I suspect he, like most Americans prefer that voting be honest and that no illegal voting or results take place.
Separately, as a general observation, most of the questionable voting results in the country always involve Dimocrats. It’s always in the precincts controlled by Dims that have many dead people and illegals voting. Look at how many precincts there are more votes cast than there are voters registered and how many have 100% Dimocrat voters with 0 Repubs.
@Redteam: You win the House and Senate and you’re still complaining. Get over it.
Myth of S.E.C. invincibility–goodbye as Alabama, Auburn, LSU, State of Miss. all lose.
Oregon 45 Ohio State 24
@Rich Wheeler:
when and where? I don’t see any complaints. I suspect the rankings next year will accurately reflect the standings. I’ve never said Urban wasn’t a good coach. Oregon in the final by 10 points at least. I’m disappointed in the Or players that chose to make a ‘political’ statement on the playing field. Just as I am at Lebron for his “I can’t breathe” T shirt. Leave politics to the political arena.
I don’t condone teams letting criminals play, but I haven’t heard of any of the FSU players being convicted of any felonies.
@Redteam: Oregon players statement dealt with Winstons’ bad behavior-not politics–Karma caught up with him.
Meyer is a GREAT coach but he can’t stop The Fighting Ducks.
I believe you and Ditto were complaining about voting irregularities in spite of Repubs. recent success at the polls.
Jim Webb for Prez.
Happy New Year
@Rich Wheeler:
tell me again who Jim Webb is. He’s not a common name. Is he related to Del Webb, the founder of houses in Arizona?
When team members are chanting about another player about activites that have nothing to do with playing football, that is ‘politics’. It has no place on a football field or basketball court.
lol, you’re not naive enough to believe there are no Dimocrats involved in voting irregularities are you?
in Oregon, they’re more commonly known as the Quackers.
Surely everyone realizes that people like Glenn Reynolds, Ross Douthat, and John Hinderaker are nuttier than a Christmas fruitcake. There has been no extraconstitutional coup. Obama isn’t plotting such a coup. No Rubicon has been crossed. The fact that his opponents don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s unconstitutional.
@Redteam: Don’t you think there were Repub. “irregularities” in the bizarre 2000 recount in Fla?
Jim Webb, former Va Senator, Sec. of Navy—Marine Combat Officer RVN—awarded Navy Cross, Silver Star and Purple Heart. Has opened exploratory committee for potential 2016 run. Not related to Dell.
@Rich Wheeler:
Would you vote for someone that can’t make up his mind?
I’ve not heard of any irregularities in Fla. Bush got the most votes and got the electoral votes. Isn’t that the way it works? I’d like to know what you think was improper, other than the attempt to get the military absentee votes (which heavily favored Bush) thrown out by the Dimocrats. That’s all I ever heard that was highly improper.
@Rich Wheeler:
How does that work anyhow? Who is on the committee and which ones are a “no” and which ones are a “yes” and are there any, “don’t knows”?
@Redteam: Ask the pols—at least 10 Repubs may seek the nom. They all love committees. My guess is it’s mostly about who’s gonna give you money to win influence.
You haven’t heard of irregularities in Fla in 2000.
That’s a joke.
Are you naïve enough or so blinded by far right ideology to think Repubs.aren’t as crooked and deceitful as anybody else? Be serious RT.
I’ll bet you believe in Fairies and take the bible literally.
@Rich Wheeler: Rich, I read Webb’s statement of forming committee, he doesn’t name any members, do you think that is because he is likely the only member? Are you sure he’s not a DINO?, every political statement he made came straight from the Republican doctrine. He really trashed Obozo in his statement. Says country is really falling apart since O8, most would agree. If he is truthful in his statement, I could support about 95% of his positions.
@Redteam: I love the guy. Beat Conservative darling George Allen Jr. in huge Va. upset.
He’s a fighter–big tent- come on in–MAYBE YOU CAN BE ON HIS COMMITTEE.
@Rich Wheeler:
As I said, the big move by Dims to throw out military absentee votes (which heavily favored Repubs) I notice you couldn’t come up with any examples.
I’d need a definition, don’t know what that term means. Am familiar with Far Left, wants to destroy the country, everyone knows that, but don’t know what ‘far right’ is.
I do believe in tooth fairy, Santa Claus, heaven, hell, and Jesus and God. Which of those do you not believe in.?
I do not believe in ‘bible literally’, certainly took longer than 6 days to create the Heaven and Earth.
I’m guessing you think Urban didn’t even know about Aaron Hernandez and his sterling reputation while playing for him at Fla. (I don’t fault all coaches for what their players do, it’s not always within their control or knowledge)
@Redteam: Fla. Disinfranchisement of citizens attempting to vote,–early closing of polls, recount of hanging chads overseen by Repub. Sec. of State–Fla. was a mess.
Far right extreemists believe Liberals are socialists/communists who want to destroy the country. .Need less to say I strongly disagree with such hyperbole.
Lets get Jim Webb elected.
@Rich Wheeler:
Not really, the liberal press did a hatchet job on Allen, so it was really the press that won that election, Webb just happened to be on the ballot that day. Even Obozo would have likely won had he been on the ballot that day. There is no tent large enough for me to join those that are doing all they can to destroy America even if one person (Webb) seems to be the opposite. The Dimocrats will only get worse, Webb doesn’t stand a chance, he’s not nearly liberal enough.
@Redteam: Yeah I know it’s always that damn lamestream medias fault. In Allen’s case it was his own big mouth that sent him into political oblivion–good riddance
I love the free press and the First Amendment. Jimmy will keep a spot open on his committee for you RT–a fellow member of The Naval Service—–Semper Fi
@Redteam:On ESPN NOW Ck.. out this kid playing Q.B. for UCLA. Impressive.
@Rich Wheeler:
Can’t find that definition anywhere on the internet. I believe the wing led by Obozo definitely has it as an objective. It’s been a long time since one person has personally led the destruction of so much. Guess you support normalizing relations with Cuba.
Strange situation, tho the Sec of State was Repub, the precincts where these ‘alleged’ things occurred were under Dimocrats. The ‘hanging’ chads deal was all Dims in control.
there were actually less than a hundred people, all Africans, that claimed they were denied the opportunity to vote. So even if Gore had gotten them all, it wouldn’t have mattered. The Dims just mis-played that every way they could.
Did you agree that Webb is likely a DINO?
@Greg:
Fruit cakes are fruiter than they are nutty.
@Redteam: Webb a blue-dog Dem Moderate on economics–Liberal on social issues. Definitely Dem–hope he takes on HRC.
Didn’t know Africans tried to vote in Fla.
I went to the internet and got a picture of you when I looked for definition of right wing extremist. Made perfect sense.
@Rich Wheeler:
Where did you find that definition?
I wouldn’t put me in ‘right wing’ more middle of the road conservative. That is people that want the country to continue to exist, not destroy it, ala Mr. Obozo.
That means he’s okay with killing babies to control population. right?
you didn’t? the article said African-Americans, so I take it they are from Africa and prefer that name over American. I’ll bet I’ve been to more African nations than most of them have.
@Redteam: Thank you much for confirming what I stated–right wing extremists, like yourself, believe liberals want to destroy the country. I say that is absurd.
All 3 of us are on the same page in agreeing we do not support abortion, but believe it is not our place as men to tell women how they should deal with their bodies. Counsel adoptions and make them easier.
You think African Americans would prefer being called Africans. Is that bayou thinking? I know you like being called a red neck.
@Rich Wheeler: Actually I prefer Cracker, but red neck is ok. If they didn’t why would they say African. Either they’re Africans or Americans. Can’t be both. I didn’t say anything about liberals wanting to destroy the country. Those people are far to the left of liberals. Clearly Obozo puts himself in the dictator category.
@Redteam: “Middle of the road Conservatives” like Aqua, Mata. Aye, and Word do not believe Obama is trying to destroy America. They don’t think he’s got Muslims in the Oval Ofice. They don’t question his legitimacy to be Prez. They don’t call him derogatory names.
You RT are an extremist, and by no measure a mainstream Conservative,
@Redteam:
I served this country as a member of the military during the Vietnam War. I served under both Democratic and Republican Presidents. I had personal doubts about both the ethical legitimacy and the conduct of that war, but I was sworn to follow the direction of our Commander In Chief, and I did so proudly.
Making a public statement impugning either the legitimacy or the motives of whoever held the oval office would have been viewed as criminal and would have been prosecuted under provisions of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, as either gross insubordination or treason. I agreed whole-heartedly with this limitation on the freedom of speech of military personnel, and I believe that the rationale for this restriction should be aggressively extended to the civilian population for the same reasons it is applied in the military: In times of war – and make no mistake, we ARE currently at war with Islamic Extremism – openly insulting our head-of-state aids and abets the enemy. It intentionally weakens America and encourages those who would destroy us.
Your incessant personal insults to President Obama amount to treason.
@Rich Wheeler:
He IS the muslim in the oval office.
Neither do I. Everything I say about him or his name is a compliment from me.
I’m sure his supporters don’t. But he’s not a natural born citizen and therefore, according to the US Constitution, is not eligible. Same as Rubio, Cruz, Jindal and some others.
Then you are just not knowledgeable on what a mainstream conservative is. Bone up on definitions a little and you won’t be so un-informed.
That QB did look great in first half, but did he go home at half time, or what?
@Redteam: Obozo isn’t derogatory? How many “mainstream Conservatives” think he’s a Muslim? How many think his Presidency is not legitimate? How many think he is purposely trying to destroy America?
You are a far right extremist. Wear it proudly.
When you got a running back who goes for 194 you can take it easy. Great game–great win for UCLA. I’m watching Gators trying to hold off ECU.
@George Wells: George, I would say to you that I appreciate your service in the military of this country. As you may or may not know, I served 4 years in the Navy. The UCMJ requires you to not follow the illegal orders of superiors. Obama, not being a real president, can not give a legal order to the military. It may be after he has done his damage to the country that it will be recognized that he really is not legitimate and at that time, it willl be clear that he is the treasonous actor, certainly not me. Besides that, I don’t think you could present a legitimate case that referring to him as Obozo is any more incorrect than referring to him as Obama. His real name is Soetoro, so one incorrect last name is as good as another. Obozo just fits him better. No one has to worry about him challenging them with what his ‘real’ last name is because then he would have to actually prove what it is. How about that?
No you were not. You were sworn to follow ‘legal orders’ of the C in C. There is a difference.
Ever hear of freedom of speech, while it might not apply 100% to military persons, it does about 98% and making a statement is legal in almost every situation. I’m not in military and can say whatever I damn well please as long as it’s not slander or libel.
Thanks for your concern.
@Rich Wheeler:
No, all, all, all. There I correctly answered all your questions.
Since his real name is Soetoro, why is Obozo worse than Obama? Or do you think it’s because he’s a Tide fan? O-Bama. I know of no conservatives that think he’s not a muslim or is legitimate. When you get into that territory they’re libs or worse.
So you’re far left and wear it proudly?
@George Wells:
How did that happen? I thought you had always been gay. Did you lie to get into the military?
@Redteam: You know of “no Conservatives who think he is not a Muslim or think his Presidency is legitimate,” Trying to destroy America–be serious
Let me introduce you to Aqua, Mata, Aye and Word. How bout Curt.
These are Conservatives who strongly disagree with most all Obama policies but don’t hold your extremist views.
@Rich Wheeler:
I don’t claim that some conservatives won’t admit it.
I can assure you that if Cruz were to become president, you would be one of the first pointing out that’s he not legitimate, i.e., not a NB Citizen.
Guess I have a hard time seeing how an American citizen that wants to preserve the USA is ‘an extremist’. If someone is not sincere and extreme in wanting his country to survive, what is there to be extreme about? You remember the old Alfred E Neuman cartoons? What, me worry? Reminds me of the left wingers that are only here standing in line for a handout. I want there to continue to be a country that can have lines like that. There are a lot of countries where there are no lines to stand in. Ask ol Kim Jung Un.
Why do you not believe that Obama is a muslim?
@Rich Wheeler:
You interpret everything as a liberal. I didn’t say UCLA didn’t have a ‘good’ game, I just questioned if they just shut down and went home at half time. Hundley did all his damage in the first half. All wins are ‘good’ wins. Not quite sure what elevates it to ‘great’ win vs ‘good’ win. In the case of that game, UCLA was hands down favorite and was expected to win, winning by only 5 points under those conditions hardly qualify it for elevation to ‘great’, more like ‘lucky’.
@Redteam: I consider your reply specious and disingenuous
Are you saying Conservatives I mentioned won’t admit what they truly believe? Are you a mind reader? Are you saying they are liars?
Obama was born in Hawaii. Why would I, or anyone, believe BHO is a Muslim?–absurd. I wouldn’t vote for Cruz no matter his status.
Are you suggesting that citizens like Aqua, Word, Mata and myself, that don’t share your extremist views, do not want to preserve this great nation?
Actually Kansas State was ranked higher and was a slight favorite to win. I know because I bet it.
@Rich Wheeler:
You openly admit you wouldn’t go to extremes to preserve the country, why should I doubt your statements?
So you admit you know nothing of Obama’s past. Where did he move to while very young? where did he go to school there? what religion was he a member of at the time? What country did his mother say that he was a citizen of while living there? What did she list his name as while in that school? I wouldn’t expect you to vote for a conservative. And I’m disingenous?
@Redteam: I wouldn’t go to extremes to preserve this country you say.
Who fought the communists on the ground in Viet Nam? Who ate 3 squares and slept in a cushy bed while cruising off shore?
@Rich Wheeler:
Then why do you say you would not be extremist in preserving the country? you ever hear that great American, Barry Goldwater say:
?
Do you think the contributions of the US Navy, in transporting your ass to Viet Nam, and supporting it while there, were not as valuable as the Marines. I’d give them both a thumbs up. I will remind you tho, that I was already out of the Navy before VietNam occurred.