MSNBC Host Says IRS Is The “Real” Victim

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You just can’t do parody like MSNBC does. Check out this host saying the “real” victim in the IRS scandal is….the IRS.

You can’t make this stuff up:

“There is a controversy here,” Wagner conceded. She said, however, that the true controversy in the IRS scandal involves the influence of outside money.

After detailing some of the revelations released this week involving how the IRS tried to draft a letter denying Karl Rove‘s Crossroads GPS its tax-exempt status was agonized over, Wagner said it was striking how little oversight there was of the new post-Citizens United rules.

“In my mind, the IRS, who was trying to get this out, they were the ones that have been actually targeted in this whole investigation,” Wagner asserted.

Oh…so the IRS was going to get around to the liberal 501(c)(4) groups eventually they just decided to go after the conservative ones first eh?

Puhlease.

Meanwhile a great video to watch is Trey Gowdy today asking how someone, such as Lerner, can claim a right to be silent when she has already 17 assertions of fact:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/DhLaG49cPug[/youtube]

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Now I know why the dimocrats think dimocrat women are stupid….

As for Trey – gotta love him…

There’s a new way Obama is getting even more taxpayer money through the IRS.
They look through all your records and even your dead parents’ records.
Then, if they find ANYTHING, they simply keep your refund for themselves!
The WaPo has details of how a single line, added into the ”Farm Bill,” undid the 10 year limit on gov’t collections!
Apparently hundreds of thousands of Americans are not getting refunds they thought were coming this year.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/social-security-treasury-target-hundreds-of-thousands-of-taxpayers-for-parents-old-debts/2014/04/10/74ac8eae-bf4d-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html

Alex Wagner is correct when she says that the IRS has been targeted. They have been target ever since they started TELLING PEOPLE HOW MUCH THEY OWED, and the people had to pay it or go to jail, and the IRS didn’t have to prove the person or business actually owed that amount.

I remember reading one story telling how the IRS would give bonuses to agents based on how much they collected. One woman told how an IRS agent told them they owed a lot more than they could pay, but the law then was the if the IRS SAYS you owe a certain amount, that is how much you have to pay.

The fight went on for some time, and the husband got so depresses about not being able to pay the bills, he figured that the best way to help his family was to kill himself, and he did. After that story went public, the IRS no longer pays their agents by how much revenue they bring in.

I also remember several stories where someone sold a business or property, and paid the taxes on the amount they received for the sale, but the IRS came in and told the seller it should have sold for a higher amount, and taxed them by THAT AMOUNT.

There are millions of reasons like these that the IRS has been targeted, and they deserve to be targeted. It’s time to get rid of the IRS and go to a new taxing plan. With the Fair Tax, or a straight percentage tax on EVERYBODY.

AFTER WHAT THEY DID TO THE PEOPLE,
they have shown how despicable they are and bias which is because they are bias, they must be dismantel,
and close for good,
they have extend their time and became corrupt and agains AMERICANS,
WHEN THEIR JOB WAS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE,
THIS CAN’T BE REPAIR WHEN IT GOT TO THAT LEVEL,

The IRS is now a political entity; it exists for the benefit of Democrat elites and it is controlled by the Democrat Party. The IRS can never be considered a legitimate bureaucracy again. The Democrat Party, now has the ability and will destroy people based on political affiliation with the help of their own bureaucracies.

The EPA and Public Education have also been corrupted by the Democrats. The idea of freedom for a Democrat is to be in on the corruption and connected to the party in control.

The Democrats have essentially destroyed the United States with their corruption and insatiable desire to control our citizens. Like all totalitarian governments of history, we are faced with the option if joining up and becoming a part of the corruption or facing the wrath of the Obama maniacs.

Useful Idiots, like the one above serve as enablers and work diligently to keep the allusion of freedom alive, but freedom is slipping from our grasp. At least she is a paid shill, who thinks she is furthering the regimes quest for unlimited control; it is the Useful Idiots of the GOP that are the most contemptible. They serve as Obama bootlickers, while pretending to represent us.

You have to wonder if Wagner and her ilk at MSDNC just say stupid things on purpose or if they’re really as stupid as they sound.

Who even watches MSNBC….Do they even know what is going on because the way they talk they sound like they are making it up as they go……..

@drjohn: #6

You have to wonder if Wagner and her ilk at MSDNC just say stupid things on purpose or if they’re really as stupid as they sound.

What if Soros and others have gotten THEIR PEOPLE in the news media? Does what they say and don’t say make sense then?

@annie: #7

Who even watches MSNBC….

Fewer and fewer.

Do they even know what is going on….

Yes, but they don’t want you to know.

…because the way they talk they sound like they are making it up as they go.

That is why I call them the propaganda media. All they are is a propaganda machine for liberalism, and propaganda is made up stuff.

What would be really sweet, if Republicans got control of Congress and the White House, would be to pass a law that for 2 years, the Republicans could use the IRS as a political weapon, then they would be forever forbidden, by specific laws (apparently, a general rule about what the IRS is not allowed to do is not sufficient) limiting their reach and scope.

For two years, the IRS should be mandated to rake liberal groups over the coals.

I just wonder what the reaction would be.

This woman should be appearing in Maxim Magazine in a bikini, not offering political commentary.

@Bill Burris: #10

For two years, the IRS should be mandated to rake liberal groups over the coals.

That would mean that the republicans would have become like the democrats, and the democrats would win. Any time you GO DOWN TO SOMEONE ELSE’S LEVEL, they win. The republicans would have a chance to show HOW THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, but they won’t.

THINGS REPUBLICANS CAN DO IF THEY WIN CONGRESS AND THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT WON’T DO
(1) Get rid of the IRS.
(2) Fix Social Security so that only the ones who paid in will get any.
(3) Fund the military like they should.
(4) Get rid of the illegals.
(5) Reduce the size of government.
(6) Reduce government spending.
(7) Reduce the national debt.
(8) Reduce taxes.

There is only one party now. You only get to decide which branch you join. I choose neither.

Kraken
High cheekbones. Black hair. Maybe Cherokee. Maybe she should run for high office in Massachusetts.
Oh…

SOMEONE SAID THAT THE HARRY REID IS INVOLVED IN A DEAL WITH OBAMA FOR CHINA TO TAKE THAT LAND AND PUT WIND TOWER IN THERE WHICH HAS BEEN SOLD TO THEM,,
IT’S TO BE VERIFYED,
IT WOULD EXPLAIN THE INSISTENCE THEY PUSH TO TAKE OVER ,
THEY WOULD HAVE DONE A SNEAKY DEAL , THAT SHOULD GET THEM ARRESTEDTHE RANCHER IS NOT ABLE
TO GET TO HIS CATTLE, HE IS FRUSTRATED ALSO FOR THAT,

Of course this is all silly but their argument falls completely apart when you point out that the IRS didn’t just apply rules and demand info, they shared the info with other agencies and individuals. That is against the law. All IRS goons who did it should be imprisoned.

The IRS is the victim now? BULLSHIT! My dad had to pay $40,000 to them AFTER tax season.

Angered Citizen
i believe you, and you’re one of many other angry and disposess citizens TARGETTED
BY THE ADMINISTRATION, SOME LOST EVERYTHING BECAUSE,
THEY HARASS THEM SO MANY TIMES TO DESTROY THEIR WILL TO FIGHT BACK,
I am sorry for your lost ALSO, AND IT MUST BE STOP, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER,
THE NEXT ELECTION MUST MAKE A DIFFERENCE, TIME ARE RUNNING OUT FOR ALL AMERICA,
BYE

The actual victims of attacks on the IRS are honest taxpayers, who have to make up for what others dodge, and who will suffer the negative consequences of a growing national debt that is worsened when others fail to pay what the law requires.

Republicans have repeatedly slashed the IRS’s enforcement budget, despite rising deficits, and despite the fact that every dollar spent on enforcement results in $4-$5 in increased federal revenue. It’s not the honest taxpayer who benefits from enforcement budget cuts, or from attacks on the people who work to increase compliance. It’s the people, organizations, and corporate entities that are inclined to evade payment.

@Greg: Maybe the IRS should concentrate on enforcement instead of doing the dirty work og the administration against political opponents. They may have plenty of funding then!

PEOPLE WHO GET TARGETTED ARE SICK AND TIRED TO HAVE TO PAY MILLIONS SO TO GET THE OBAMA THUGS OUT OF THEIR BACK, AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IS OF NO SURPRISE FOR US,
SOMEONE HAD TO SAY NO AND FACE THEM WITHOUT FEAR OF ANY OF THEIR POWER GRAB,
THEY SAW THE OTHER LEAVE BEHIND THEIR CATTLE LIVELY HOOD TO END UP THAT HARASSING PURSUIT, THEY WHERE TRYING TO MAKE TIME FIX IT AND TIRED THE AGRESSORS, BUT THE THUGS STAYED ON THEM LIKE A HIENA HUNGRY FOR BLOOD,
WHICH RESULT IN A KILLING FOR THE VICTIM,
BUT ONE IS TELLING THEM TO GET LOST, I DON’T OWE YOU NOTHING,
AND HE AWAKEN THE PEOPLE OF FAITH TO SUPPORT HIM AND HIS FAMILY AS THE ATTACKERS WHERE DESTROYING HIS ANIMALS HIS PRIZE BULLS COSTING MANY THOUSANDS, AND RAMSACK THE TOURTOISE’S HOUSE BURROW, SO TO HAVE THE RANCHER BE BLAMED,
IT’S JUST TO NOTICE WHAT WORDS FROM THE VICTIMS FOLLOWED BY ACTIONS CAN MAKE RESULT ON EXPOSING A INJUSTICE AND CRIMINAL ACTIONS FROM THOSE SEND BY OBAMA ADMINISTRATION,
IF HE WOULD HAVE SENT THE SAME THUGS TO HELP THE BRAVES IN BENGHASI INSTEAD OF PICKING ON THE GOOD PEOPLE AND TRY TO EXTORT MONEY BY MILLION FROM THOSE,
THE BRAVES IN BENGHASI WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED FROM THE ALQUADA TERRORISTS,
ALL OBAMA HAD TO DO IS ORDER IT, IT WAS SO EASY, WASN’T IT?
BUT HE CAN ORDER HIS THUGS TO GO AND INTIMIDATE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO PAY HIS EARNINGS, BY MILLIONS,
HE SPIT ON THE PEOPLE, TREATING THEM AS ENEMY,
IF THEY EXPOSE HIS EXTORTION GAMES.
HE IS THE ONE GIVING MOST JOBS TO HIS CROWD, THAN ANY BUSINESS IN AMERICA,
HE PAY THEM FROM THE POCKETS OF THE CITIZENS HE EXTORT, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT,