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During a WLS radio interview, Jesse Sharkey Chicago Teachers Union (CTU) Vice President had a difficult time explaining his participation in the Midwest Marxist Conference. He refused to answer questions pertaining to why he was there and how the Chicago teachers are involved with the conference and the sponsor, the International Socialists Organization.
Bruce Dan and Dan Proft interviewed Sharkey on their show to discuss the school closing controversy being waged between the CTU and Chicago Public Schools. Sharkey was addressing the Chicago Teachers Union’s coalitions that had supported the teachers’ strike this fall, until Proft asked about the teachers union ties to “revolutionary movements.”
Using the classic first defense of the cornered Leftist, Sharkey accused Proft of McCarthyism.
Sharkey: What our union has done, is work very hard to build a coalition between people who work in the schools and depend on the public schools and the people who go to school, the students and community …And, uhm, I think the fact that we’re dedicated to that is reflected in the fact that there’s been broad support for the things we’re trying to do.
Proft: Where do the revolutionary movements fit into that coalition? I understand that a couple weeks ago that you appeared at the Midwest Marxist Conference at Northwestern University to talk about the important support that Chicago teachers get from revolutionary movements’ use of the strike weapon. What’s the alignment with Marxist organizations and revolutionary movements?
Sharkey: Ha, ha, ha, look guys, I mean, thanks…
Proft: That’s a legitimate question. That’s actually just happened. That’s actually true. That’s not McCarthyism.
Sharkey: Thanks for the 1950s McCarthyism.
Proft: It’s not McCarthyism.
Sharkey: Uh, uh, well look it, the, the, the um—every time that unions or social movements have raised issues about what’s fair and what isn’t in base and equality, people have branded them as communist. I, I know…
Proft: Wait a second. You spoke? Did you, or did you not, speak at the Midwest Marxist Conference?
Sharkey: I… [pause] No I did not speak at the Midwest Marxism Conference.
Wolf: You were there though.
Proft: You didn’t?
Wolf: You were there.
Sharkey: Uh.
Wolf: You were there. We’ve got you on video there. Why were you there?
Sharkey: Uh. I’m allowed to attend a Marxist conference, like I’m allowed to [inaudible]…Wolf: Do you subscribe to their beliefs Mr. Sharkey?
Sharkey: Eh. Look, look guys, I mean, if you want to have me on as part of a, uh, uh, witch-hunt…
Wolf: It’s not a witch-hunt. What do you believe?
Proft: You attended this conference, I’m just asking you what value you derive from this conference and how you see revolutionary movements as so described to connect to the teachers unions, that’s all. It’s not a witch-hunt. It’s something you did.
Sharkey: Ah, uh, look gentlemen; I’m not sure where you’re going with…
Sharkey was at the conference and his participation was recorded by a Breitbart reporter in a breakout session discussing relationships between revolutionary organizations including the International Socialists Oorganization’s involvement in the teachers’ strike. Sharkey contributed by discussing his views on what he termed an interesting dilemma:
It’s very hard to have a huge struggle in Chicago over the set of things that are being pushed—education reform, or frankly workplace reform—and not have that struggle taken up anywhere else.
Just in the same way, it’s hard to have you know, if one freight way, has got wages that are $10 an hour higher than their competitors. Guess what! The logic is that high wage place gets smashed down, and that’s the logic of the market. And it’s only when you start to generalize that there could be some alternative to that, that you have the ability to push back…
The magic of struggle is just how easy it is to generalize those lessons. Whether it’s Wisconsin or Occupy or the CTU strike.
It is interesting to note how Sharkey is willing to equate education reform with workplace reform. When the general public hears the phrase education reform, they automatically have sympathy for the education of the children, but education reform has nothing to do with education or children, it is all about the teachers, their union, and the advancement of Socialism.
Are our children equipped to resist the Marxist indoctrination of their schools? A rhetorical question at best, we need only look at the voting stats of our young people in the last election.
Just because the teachers are Marxist sympathizers or loyalists, will their opinions assert themselves on the children? Once again, a rhetorical question, every Marxist is on a mission to spread the message, and converting the children is the easiest and most effective method of promoting the revolution. Obviously, the Marxists know they will never convert the readers of Flopping Aces, but they can get to the children. Eight hours of indoctrination, five days a week, for nine months a year is a lot of time to indoctrinate the young fertile minds of our youth and Marxist like Sharkey are more than willing to prepare the drones of the future.
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Speaking of Marxists, who should be better qualified to recognize a communist than Pravda?
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-11-2012/122849-obama_soviet_mistake-0/
From a Putin speech:
“…we are reducing taxes on production, investing money in the economy. We are optimizing state expenses.
The second possible mistake would be excessive interference into the economic life of the country and the absolute faith into the all-mightiness of the state.
There are no grounds to suggest that by putting the responsibility over to the state, one can achieve better results.
Unreasonable expansion of the budget deficit, accumulation of the national debt – are as destructive as an adventurous stock market game.
During the time of the Soviet Union the role of the state in economy was made absolute, which eventually lead to the total non-competitiveness of the economy. That lesson cost us very dearly. I am sure no one would want history to repeat itself.”
And there is more, Russian media saying the things that our media will not:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/03-12-2012/123005-communist_victory_amerika-0/
Interesting comparison between the philosophy of the leader of Russia and the leader of the USA.
An economist who writes for National Review also teaches symbolic logic at a university.
Kevin D. Williamson usually writes about economic issues, but this:
is about public school teachers indoctrinating our country’s youth.
Yes, they are Lefties.
Yes, they are attempting to shred whatever values parents might try to impart to their own children.
And most importantly, yes, they are clever about it.
Note how Kevin exposes their rhetorically clever fallacies.
Marxism is an economic and political postulate, not a religious one—as the author connotes with his language. There are only a handful of people who propound Marxism religiously (the term ‘religiously’ is used here in the hyperbolic, metaphorical sense of meaning “like a religion”). But to say that teachers are indoctrinating children toward Marxism is as ridiculous as the idea the gay teachers are indoctrinating children to be homosexuals (while recognizing that many—if not most—readers of this blog still believe the latter).
Maybe teaching children to care about others, especially in the political sphere—which used to be a Christian notion (in contradistinction to the modern extreme right-wing understanding of rugged individualism and selfishness)—would be advisable at an appropriate age; but this is common decency, not Marxism—although it may be Socialistic in nature.
Lib, you should organize your thoughts and try write more effectively; otherwise, your commentary seems to be little more than incoherent babbling.
@Petercat: Still referencing Pravda.RU, as though it is the word of Russia, huh? (Even after you’ve been corrected.) For everyone who reads this comment, I want to the read, “Moon Landing is a Hoax” at, http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pravda.ru
@Skook: I wouldn’t talk if I were you. Your writing simply sounds like a Cold War communist tirade. And the ‘useful idiots’ on the Right are the only ones to whom it make sense—sort of like a magic in the canter of the words, even though they lack factual import.
There was a poll recently where a majority of liberals had a favorable view of socialism. This is just another example proving that liberals are really leftists who have zero support for our Constitution or founding ideals.
liberal #2 flails away spasmatically as usual. Throw it a fish, already.
Sharkey was surprised and uncomfortable at the thought of being “caught” at the Communist convention; obviously, his presence could prove to be embarrassing, but to whom? Not the committed Communists, they could care less; however, the dues paying union members who are not Communists might balk at the direction of their union and of the public school system as well. The public who supports this educational system with its Communist leaders will react unfavorably with the idea of indoctrination by Communist teachers and learning that the teacher’s emphasis on improving education means improving the workplace for the teacher. It is worth noting Chicago is often in a race with California to turn out the worst student performances; however, the eduction or workplace is always in a state of improvement.
@Liberal1 (Objectivity): You add nothing to this conversation beyond immaturity . . .
You’re fishing, and what you think to be profound is really “the one that got away.”
Conservatives have views on what the Left is doing wrong. They say it, and in you sweep–not as a relevant counterpoint, but as exhibit A. You only validate the views of FA, and are helping critical thinkers find truth in the “right” way of thinking.
Thanks for your support. I look forward to your right-affirming posts . . .
@Liberal1 (Objectivity):
A postulate. An assertion. Disproven empirically time and again but still asserted by millions of true believers. Repeated failure to work as advertised does not sway them from their, wait for it – faith – that next time will be different.
Not a religion, you say. Close enough, Einstein.
@Liberal1 (Objectivity):
You try very hard to make everyone believe you are some profound thinker. First, much like Christianity, Marxism is a philosophy. Catholicism is a religion, Mormonism is a religion. Christianity is a philosophy. And so is Marxism. Please try harder next time.
Don’t forget Detroit. 47% illiteracy.
http://theweek.com/article/index/215055/detroits-shocking-47-percent-illiteracy-rate
@Hard Right:
You caused it.
@Wm T Sherman:
Sorry. I was shooting for 60%.
Hmmmm…..
I could have sworn I linked that article.
Well, better late than never.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/334702/s-indoctrination-kevin-d-williamson
It is sad to see so much emphasis on indoctrination and so little on actual learning skills like reading and writing and math.
Nowadays kids get graded more on the view they express(agreeing with teacher) as opposed to whether they could express it cogently or even spell properly.
Very sad state of affairs.
@Liberal1 (Objectivity):
Liberal1, you are either delusional or deceptive. Judeo-Christian philosophy teaches VOLUNTARY charity towards the poor and VOLUNTARY kindness to those in need. Having government thugs point a gun in your face or throw you in jail so political hacks can use money forcibly stolen to buy the votes of the uneducated and (in your case) the muddle-headed is NOT caring for the poor.
Don’t tell me leftist teachers don’t indoctrinate our kids. I am CONSTANTLY having to set my kids straight when they are presented utter bullshit (straight out of Zinn’s deplorable “People’s History of the United States”). I have also pointed out to my children all kinds of health statistics and factual information showing them exactly how deceitful their teachers are being with the garbage they put forth. My daughter is singing a parody of the 12 Days Of Christmas in her High school drama class, and one of the lines is “3 Dirty capitalists”….I was stunned at the blatant anti-American, pro-marxist propaganda. My daughter said she hadn’t even thought about it until I pointed out to her how incipient it was.
Marxism, progressivism, socialism…whatever label you choose to put on it is absolutely NOT about ‘taking care of your fellow man’ unless you use that phrase as a mob boss referring to his competition. Collectivism is inherently evil, no matter how much lipstick camouflage you slather on it. It is nothing more than evil puppetmasters blatantly lying to work the mob into a murderous lather against the leftists’ target/victim….and people who profess to believe the insane collectivist ideology fall into two groups…those who are power hungry and want to be at the top of the political heap, and those who are too stupid to see they are being manipulated because they falsely believe they are ‘intellectual’ for believing leftist twaddle.
So which are you?
@Babydoc: I find the phrase three capitalists to be a fascinating example of communist indoctrination. Please feel free to post any flagrant examples of indoctrination on any of my articles. I write on the education system occasionally and I like to have a feel for the school systems; I am always trying to formulate methods to resist the indoctrination through alternative education.
Thank you for the insight.
And racist too, right?
McCarthyism. Heh. The shocking thing about all that is, that after the breakup of the USSR, Soviet archives showed that Joe McCarthy, sweaty opportunistic alcoholic boor that he was, was largely correct — the US was riddled with Soviet operatives.
There was a reason, as it turns out, that the Mig-15 looked almost identical to the F-86 Saber jet, and it wasn’t parallel engineering arriving at the same solution independently.
The reds did not die off or give up. They went underground. There is a traceable line from the Wobblies of the early 1900s, through the Communist Party USA of the 1930s-1940s, through the antiwar movement of the 1960s, to the institutionalized madness in the school systems and government of today. The Soviets never hit us with a hydrogen bomb; they hit us with a stupid bomb. Direct hit. These mutated pod people are the ones busy destroying the nation today.
The Mig 15 came out first I thought
@john:
The two jets first flew the same year. The Soviet fighter was further along in development when it unexpectedly made its combat debut in Korea. Early production Sabers were rushed over to respond.
The Mig engine design was British — that was simply handed over with the clearance of pro-Soviet British officials. Rolls Royce attempted to recover royalties, but of course never received any.
@Wm T Sherman: Thank You! I have been preaching this stuff so long I thought I was an embarrassment for the regulars at FA.
PS. I have a relative who fought those first jet dog fights and he is still alive. He logged his lesson hours flying a PBY at sixteen around Iwo and Okinawa then became the personal pilot for Nimitz. Those “boys” were of a different breed. If you guys have any questions I can ask, he loves to talk about the early days of flying in three wars with a few extra hours with the CIA.
Thank you for the back up.
@Skook:
And before the Wobblies were the 19th century socialist and anarchist movements, various other populist utopian movments — it goes way back.
The pinwheel-eyed narcissist utopians appear to have won. This unsustainable welfare state mess is about to collapse and like many others I think that’s not a bug, it’s a feature. Cloward-Piven strategy.
As it collapses, the opposition, the people who warned for years that it just can’t work, will paradoxically not be vindicated in the minds of most people, I think. The traditional role for the likes of us following a socialist revolution is scapegoats — class enemies whose alleged sabotage is used to explain the pathetic daily failure of socialism to provide anything resembling a decent existence except for a small elite. It takes a dumbed down inattentive population to fall for it – which we already have to a large extent. The stragglers who still think for themselves can be intimidated into silence, or failing that, dealt with in the usual ways.
One of the things that makes me the most bitter about it is the erasing of our national memory – the replacement of real history with bizarre propaganda that serves our new masters. Maybe archeologists will start to recover the truth in a few hundred years. Or maybe not. Perhaps this is just the reversion to the normal condition of man -poverty, ignorance, and despotism. The culture of the Enlightenment and the West is a rare aberration of a sort not to be seen again for quite some time.
The Leftist trolls want to talk about what’s been bad in this society — never what’s been unprecedented and good.
@Liberal1 (Objectivity): #5
Oh, yeah, Pravda.RU has had some weird things all right. But the articles that I reference contain direct quotes from real people.
Your reasoning seems to be that if one strange thing has been said, we should just ignore everything said from then on.
So I guess that we should just ignore everything that you say, then. Right?
Nevermind, Lib. We already do, for the most part.
You are fun, brainless one.
Petercat
hi,
thank you for the link, there is a lot of truth in there, just like looking at a mirror
from space,
I did enjoyed the read,
it’s t good to learn what other see, and they are right in many strange way,
I should say they might have a better perception, than those in place, on many issues,
bye
hope SILVER IS OKAY and stop running away,
Yes, how dare we proles ask someone who is in charge of those who deal with our kids about their radical, anti-Constitutional associates.
I’m sure those Marxist teachers are teaching the kids:
What was happen’ in 1962.
Sept 30 a mob attacks US Marshalls in Oxford (Town)
Let’s try 1963.
People sitting in on diners are jailed, including Dr. Martin L King Jr.
Bull Conner is firehosing children and sending dogs to attack them.
May 12 the KKK sets off firebombs in Birmingham.
June 11 President Kennedy calls segregation a moral crisis.
June 12th Medgar Evers is murdered.
September 15 4 young girls are murdered by the KKK in a church in Birmingham by the use of a bomb.
One could go on.
What was the white Alabaman’s point? The blacks were better off being slaves? That they had a long way to go before they reach the standards of herself and her fellow Southerners?
The sad thing is that the racism dems have towards blacks isn’t gone, just morphed.
They still think they aren’t smart enough to make it on their own, that they need the help of “superior enlightened whites”.
@Hard Right:
The sad thing is that the racism dems have towards blacks isn’t gone, just morphed.
Morphed by Richard Nixon and Lee Atwater into the Republican Party in the South, at least.