Among liberals, integrity and honesty seem to be little more than campaign slogans. Warren and Obama have no reservations about lying when it comes to their past or personal history. Ms Warren is once again caught up in her own lies and the MSM and the Liberal faithful seem to be unconcerned; actually, they are repeating the lies without fact checking, but the rest of America is wondering if they are willing to trust another pathological liar in a position of authority.
The day after she announced her candidacy for U.S. Senate, Democrat Elizabeth Warren told the convocation at UMass-Boston: “My grandmother drove a wagon in the land rush to settle territory out west. It was 1889, she was 15 years old…She lived to be 94, to see her youngest grandchild, that's me, graduate from college…”. Warren's maternal grandmother died in 1969, the year before Warren graduated from college, and her paternal grandmother was only 2 years old in 1889.
Obviously, Ms Warren didn't major in math and figures the rest of us can't do simple arithmetic, but perhaps the story of her grandmother is a composite of women, much like the story of Obama's girl friends in his fanciful biography.
Artistic and creative license is the pejorative of the novelist, and that is why novels are designated as fiction. Fiction that is passed on as fact is nothing more than lies. The Progressive Democrats seem to believe that lies used to advance political agendas are justified; Karl Marx elaborated on this idea by writing that the ends justify the means.
The pathological liar, the ones who will lie when the truth would serve them better, use the same criteria for their obsession with lying, but they can't explain their lies and become frustrated when people repudiate their lies. The pathological liar lives in a fantasy world, and they resent it when they are confronted with reality. That is why Obama and Warren will never apologize or admit their lies, to them fantasy is real and it is disrespectful for anyone to challenge them with the truth, facts, or reality.
The US is overwhelmed with pathological liars and the people have lost faith in our government because of the culture of lying that is tolerated within the Democrat Party. Now is the time for the people of Massachusetts to ask themselves if they are ready to vote for a pathological liar and be represented by such a patently dishonest person.
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@Richard Wheeler: First of all, especially on posts with so many comments, please be a good chap and use the reply button. It makes following the thread and responding so much easier.
Do I think Michelle ‘thinks’ Barack was born in Kenya?
I cannot attest to what she thinks, nor would I attempt to do so. I do believe that she knows one way or the other, don’t you?
You’ve done it again, Rich. You have deflected and completely ignored my question and the point that I made.
Let me refresh your memory. I said:
Why have we always had to know the college transcripts of every elected President and Presidential candidate for the last half century or so?
Why have we had to know when their last traffic ticket was written?
Why have we had to be made aware of when they took their last drink of alcohol?
Why have the media been so rigid in their pursuit of knowledge, both personal and private of all folks who seek the highest office in the land, yet when 2007 rolled around, they suddenly lost their curiosity?
Please Rich, don’t deflect this line of questioning; don’t dissemble, obfuscate or attempt to re-direct the topic.
Please be direct and answer why Barack Hussein Obama has not been held to the same standards by the media that every single other person, male and female, black, white, hispanic, asian or native American that has run for POTUS.
C’mon Rich, let’s have a discussion, open and honest about this. I am sincerely curious as to what you think the reason for the pass that Obama has been given by the media in this country.
@Greg: You don’t really, HONESTLY believe that Obama isn’t a big spender, do you????
anticsrocks
yes, compare to the vicious vetting which they all including MEDIAS AND COMEDIANS
ATTACH TO OBAMA, directed at all the CONSERVATIVES CANDIDATES.
BYE
Anticsrocks You stated ” I AM NOT A BIRTHER” O.K. There are those like Smorg who have stated otherwise.
Next case. The MSM, consisting primarily of Progressives has always been relatively “kind” to Dems vs. Repubs. Think JFK vs. Nixon, LBJ vs. Goldwater, Clinton vs. Dole, Gore vs. “W”. This is hardly new.
They personally liked these men. They like Obama,and like JFK, give him passes not given most Repubs.Right wing media like Rush,Breitbart,Hannity etc. have fought back. Is it fair? No.
Advice Choose battles carefully.”Birthers” hurt Repubs. “It’s the economy stupid”,pounded with consistancy, should bring a Romney victory.
@Richard Wheeler:
Hey Rich… Last week brought us some stellar stock market performance, eh?
Whoo… man…. Happy days are here again!
what they did to RYAN WHO TOOK HIS WIFE TO PARIS CLUBS AND LEFT EARLY AFTER FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE IN THAT PLACE, THAT WAS A GOOD ENOUGH EXCUSE,
IF ONLY THE VOTERS WOULD HAVE PASS IT BY AS A HUMAN MISTAKE BECAUSE THEY WHERE IN A
FOREIGN COUNTRY,
AS OPPOSE TO WAS WE LEARNED OF OBAMA’S HABIT TO GO IN THAT GAY SPA IN CHICAGO,
EARLY ON WHILE CAMPAIGNING FOR THE PRESIDENCY. 2208
THAT NEWS JUST VANISH FROM THE MEDIA SOON AFTER IT WAS TOLD,
AND AS THE RYAN MEDIA COVERED NEWS , THE OBAMA NEWS LOOK SCANDALOUS ENOUGH IF NOT MORE BECAUSE IT WAS IN CHICAGO, WHERE HE LIVED, SO HE KNEW THE PLACE, BUT IT VANISH IN THE CYBER SPACE, NEVER TO SHOW UP AGAIN. NOT BY MEDIAS OF ANY PAPERS,
IT SHOW THE LEFT HOW VICIOUS THEY WILL GO TO ASSASSINATE A PERSON’S PROFILE,
THEY WANT TO SINK BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF HIM TAKING THEIR PLACE, WHILE THEY CAN USE THE MEDIAS TO HIDE THEIR WORSE OWN PROFILE FROM A PUBLIC WHO WOULD NOT HAVE LIKE THAT NEWS
AYE #55 Stock market is Pure gambling. Invest in a smart monkey with a strong arm. Time to buy Real Estate. CAVEAT If you can get a loan at these historically low rates.
@Richard Wheeler:
That is a very misleading statement. There is gambling, then there is gambling. Gambling on sports games is much different than gambling on games of pure chance, such as craps and roulette. The stock market is more like betting on sports games, where research and a little contemplation can lead to some very successful “gambles”. I’d rather “bet” $1 Million in the stock market than $1,000 on a game like craps.
As well, if the stock market was “pure gambling”, like you assert, then people like Buffet would eventually have losing streaks as long, or longer, and as big, or bigger, than their winning streaks, leaving him no better off than when he started.
@johngalt:
Rich only calls it “pure gambling” when it’s performing poorly.
At all other times, the stock market is the best indicator of economic health and how Obie is the bestest precedent evah.
@johngalt: People often deprecate what they don’t understand.
@Aye:
In that regard, Aye, he is no different than the millions of other Obama worshippers, such as Greg and Lib1, who deflect the idea of responsibility away from Obama at every possible moment. Even when something “good” happens, responsibility is shed in favor of pure credit.
It’d be amusing, if it wasn’t so sad(or scary, depending on your perspective) that Obama receives credit when unwarranted, and absolution when warranted. This behaviour is strikingly similar to that exhibited by those people who become entrenched within cults. How else can one view this behaviour other than being an Obama worshiper?
Aye and J.G As a former Merrill-Lyncher I’ve always suggested the gambling nature of the stock market, I’d rather play craps with $1000 (enjoying the free drinks) and the company of my fellow brokers than blindly “investing” one million in stocks.
J.G. Are you suggesting this old Marine is a cultist? Might I suggest the same about the devotees of Ayn Rand?
I might add I’ve commented more favorably on Mr. Romney than have you.
Proof You understand the stock market. Bon chance.
@Richard Wheeler:
I hope you are a former investor, RW.
I have never met one who ”blindly” invested in anything.
And I’ve known a few of them.
You must have been one bad-apple employee.
Nan Have you ever heard the tapes of Merrill Lynch or Goldman Sachs brokers laughing about their inappropiate fleecing of their sheep-like clientele? Nan –The only difference between the stock market touts and those picking the ponies is their fancy suits and ability to speak the “Queen’s English.”
I was a great employee,selling whatever the bosses told me, and being a top earner for “The Thundering Herd”
Partisan voting is the worse gamble of all, for no matter where you place your support, the odds are you will be greatly disappointing in the outcome. Pumpers and Bashers serve to confuse those selecting, and as with the stock market, you have to observe due diligence and research carefully before you make your decision. Unfortunately, lack of information on the available choices, misrepresentation of facts, outright lies and faithless promises of a return investment, insures that voting for most politicians will be a shot in the dark.
Ditto
hi,
I bet there is money bets involved in choosing a PRESIDENT,
DO YOU THINK SO?
AND BIG MONEY
BYE
@anticsrocks, #52:
All recent presidents have been big spenders. But I reject Romney’s statement: “Since President Obama assumed office three years ago, federal spending has accelerated at a pace without precedent in recent history.” The figures presented by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget indicate otherwise. They seem to be engaging in a lot less partisan hyperbole than other sites.
@Greg:
Quite the asterisk, isn’t it?
@Nan G, #68:
Should we blame a president for the ineptitude of Congress? The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget actually addresses that point in the final paragraph:
Greg, you and warren are peas in a pod.
@Greg: I do not believe that congress invested in all of those failed green companies where Obama buddies profited and the US people lost. I do not think that congress bailed out GM and Chrysler at the expense of the bond holder and to the benefit of Obama’s union buddies. It did cause capital to sit on the sidelines and not invest in a difficult environment where they could not trust the administration. (Greg, by administration, that means your buddy Obama!)
I don’t think that congress prevented drilling off shore and the Keystone XL pipeline that would bring 35% more income to farmers and land holders in ND and MT as well as many as 50,000K jobs. I do not think that the Republican congress passed Obama care that has companies abandoning their health care policies and religious organizations filing suit against the administration. Think defending law suits is free and productive? Companies refuse to invest in the US because of the anti-business your buddy Obama has created all by himself! You lefties always want to blame someone else for your screw-ups. When have any of you taken responsibility for your mistakes?
@Hard Right: Do you mean Greg claims he is 1/32 Native American or he is a liar?
So, Obama gets a ”pass” because his DEMOCRAT-controlled Senate has refused to pass any budget as long as he’s been in office????
Or does he get a “pass” because he’s sent up ”budgets” that were so divisively political in nature that not even ONE of his own Senators OR House Dems would vote for them?
Or is Obama’s ”pass” due to the fact that the CBO can only legally use the bogus numbers ObamaCare used?
Any way you cut it Obama’s ”pass” is phony as a three-dollar bill!
Obama’s positions are certainly more consistent than those of the Mitt-flopper.
Liars!
Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt gave this information to the New York Times in 2008:
OOPS!
We now have proof that Obama’s association with Ayers continued even after Obama had been elected to represent Illinois in the U.S. Senate!
Yes, someone saved the page before its writer wiped it off along with his entire blog.
Screen Capture .
The continued connection between Obama and his radical, domestic terrorist associates until mere months before he launched his presidential campaign is sharply at odds with the way Obama minimized the relationship.
Double OOPS!
Nan G.
tripple wow
@Richard Wheeler:
I see that you completely missed the part where I talked about researching a stock. Yet you try to make it about “blind” gambling. Do you ever read the posted comments in full before barreling ahead with your comments?
No, Rich, I’m not suggesting it. I’m stating it. As for Rand, if you think about the philosophy she espoused, then either you agree with the objectivist approach, or you don’t. There isn’t the blind devotion present that one has, or rather, needs, in order to continue to support Obama.
@Randy:
He is a pathological liar. See enough of his posts and you’ll come to the same conclusion.
John Galt Might suggest YOU read my posts before labelling me a “cultist”. I have been more positive about Romney than you and have not decided on my POTUS vote. Would never suggest BHO has not made mistakes.I will defend him against rampant ODS evidenced here at F.A.
Whether researching Facebook at $38 or Mich-6 vs. N.D suggest it a basic crapshoot where info you receive not always reliable and emotion often comes into play.Those who think they can beat the odds are often the biggest losers. You must take small loses in order to win overall. This admission of being wrong sometimes, is often difficult for market “investors” and saddles them with big losses that are hard to overcome.
@Richard Wheeler:
True, however, the depth of research one does, the knowledge of the industry the stock(or fund) is tied to, and the direction the economy is taking at the moment(what may be good for one industry is not always good for another), is why some people tend to win overall, some people win big overall, and others tend to be losers no matter how things are.
If it was all “pure gambling”, as you suggested in post #57, then everyone, whether they “dabble” in the market, or it’s their primary job, would win or lose at nearly the same percentage.
For an example, if you were to take a 1000 people and give them a coin, tell them to flip it 100 times a day for 100 days straight, they would all record nearly identical heads/tails flips, percent-wise. Take those same 1000 people, give them $1000 and tell them to invest it in the stock market, after 100 days the results, concerning the “winnings” or “losings” would be spread across a wide area. A few people would lose it all, or nearly all. Some people would break even. Some people would record modest gains. And still others would double or triple their money. Luck would play into some of the winnings and losings, but overall, the people more knowledgeable about the stocks they were investing in would tend to do much better than those picking their stocks randomly.
And Rich, you are an Obama “cultist”. Show me a post or comment you’ve made where you haven’t defended his actions, but instead, criticized them. And as for Romney, it’s no wonder that you, a leaner to the left, has been more positive about Romney than I have. Conservatives dislike him, but will vote for him over Obama, for the simple fact that he is, in essence, a lesser evil.
J.G. I believe BHO should have acted with much greater resolve to help Iranian dissidents. Likewise ,believe he should be putting a lot more pressure on Assad in Syria. I believe he acted too hastily in his Supreme Court nominations though I wouldn’t dismiss them outright.
I give him a B on his overall performance and an A on his demeanor.Romney has a very strong chance of beating him.
Because I approve of his overall performance does that make me a “cultist?” Are those on here who bought Reagan hook,line and sinker and pine for the next R.R. To Magically Appear cultists?
Richard Wheeler
yes you are a cultist, you are hanging on the cult of OBAMA WHICH HAVE BEEN PROCAIMED
the god by the reverend white. and their medias having tingles in their legs for him,
what else do you call it?. SUBLIMINAL SALES PITCH, WHO MANIPULATED THE CROWDS TURNING IN
AN HYSTERIC FRENZIE WITH TINGLES ALL ON THEIR BODY
Bees You’re a one woman cult and proud of it. lol>
Richard Wheeler
I was just wondering what you where going to come up with,
that was not so bad, maybe this is because of VENUS GETTING HER SUN BATH, UNTIL WE SEE HER AGAIN IN A CENTURY PLUS, IT MUST HAVE SOFTEN YOUR CULT.
DID YOU START TO TAKE BETS ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION
AS THE WISCONSIN RECALL?
@ilovebeeswarzone:
No doubt some gambling goes on regarding election results. I’ve never heard of a casino or legal bookies officially taking bets on candidates.
@Richard Wheeler: Once again Rich, you shy away from that which you cannot answer. I don’t blame you, I would hate to have to stick up for a pathological liar, like Obama.
It is very telling that you aren’t able to answer my questions.
@Greg: From the link you provided:
Translation: If we use REAL math, Obama is a HUGE spender.
@Greg: Answer this question, Greggie.
Who signed the nearly trillion dollar stimulus package into law? Bush or Obama?
What would the 2009 budget have looked like without that stimulus spending?
I am betting you don’t have the balls to answer me.
@anticsrocks, #87:
Spending growth rates of that size would no longer give Obama the lowest growth rates.
Well, Jeez. Since he would no longer have the lowest growth rate, it surely must follow that “Since President Obama assumed office three years ago, federal spending has accelerated at a pace without precedent in recent history.”
That’s the way the logic works?
@Greg: You must be drinking the same water as Rich Wheeler, he can’t answer my questions, either.
Who signed the stimulus into law?
@anticsrocks, #89:
I think the final figure was $831 billion. Subtract that from the $1.4 trillion 2009 deficit, and you get $569 billion.
What would the country have looked like without those federal stimulus dollars to help keep them afloat? I don’t recall too many republican governors turning the money down. If they want to complain without a guilty conscience, I suppose they can always pay the money back.
Hypocrites.
Which states tend to suck up more federal dollars than they contribute? Red or blue?
@Greg: Wow! I’m impressed, you actually answered a question.
The stimulus did precious little to help the national economy, what it did was two things – paid off Obama’s supporters and plugged holes in many state budgets.
Only 6% of the stimulus was for any actual “shovel ready jobs,” or infrastructure. The economy would have done just fine without the stimulus, in fact it would have done better without all that added debt.
The reason Obama claims he isn’t a big spender is because the stimulus got folded into the federal baseline, so he just keeps that level of spending and looks like a fiscal hawk (well, he looks like a fiscal hawk to the left and those weak minded enough to believe his lies).
You can’t get around the fact that Obama put spending on steroids in this country once he became POTUS, Greg.
No way around it at all, unless you refuse to be honest about it.
Where do you fall? You going to tell the truth or are you going to parrot Obie’s lies?
I’ve long held that the real point wasn’t “shovel ready jobs”, but simply injecting liquidity into a slowing economic machine to keep the wheels from stopping. Unemployment was rising out of control. Credit froze up. Consumers were tapped out. Stock values were in the basement. Home values had already crashed. The wheels were turning slower and slower, and there was no source of liquidity but the government. So, there was an $831 infusion of cash. The dollars were spent again and again as the stimulus money spread through the system. We took on more debt to avoid imminent economic disaster. We dodged the bullet. We kept enough momentum to avoid coming to a total standstill.
That’s how I see the stimulus.
@Greg:
It isn’t ethical or moral to “dodge a bullet” by insuring that it will hit your children and their children instead of you.
@Greg: The thing of it is, Greg that those in power, Obama, Bernanke, etc… claim Keynes as their model, but they don’t stick to the true Keynes plan of action. They keep spending and spending and spending, as long as they say Keynes once in a while, they they feel vindicated.
The stimulus did NOT help the economy, save for a slight bump up, then it was flat again. This is the worst recovery following a recession in a century, and why is that? Obama.
Anticsrocks I answered your question in #51 Re “MSM PASS” quite directly in #54. You musta missed it.
@Richard Wheeler: I didn’t miss it at all, Rich.
Telling me WHAT happened does nothing to shed light as to WHY it happened.
Lemme try once again:
Afraid of discussion? Don’t want to admit that he gets away with all sorts of crap when it comes to his personal info, the same info that all other candidates have to show?
You told me the MSM gives him a PASS. Well, duh! Now ‘splain it.
@Richard Wheeler:
No, it’s because you accept the spin Obama and his team, or the liberal/progressives in general, put on issues and questions facing Obama. Then, here, you don’t go into any depth or detail in your defense of Obama, but rather, condemn the commenters here by even asking the questions. You “worship” at the altar of Obama, Rich. The sad thing seems to be that you don’t even realize it yourself.
J.G. I know you’re a smart guy(for a swabbie),but to say I “worship at the alter of Obama” is stupid and will have me questioning more closely your other assertions.
Semper Fi
Anticsrocks AGAIN I say,do you think JFK was scrutinized like “tricky Dick”,LBJ like Goldwater,Clinton like either Bush. The MSM, composed of Lib/Progressives, favors Lib/ Progressives and treats them better. They like Oama and share his views. Therefor—
Final answer. What say you?