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@Comm0n Sense: Arrest the blacks and protect the whites? Are you serious you idiot? You speak about this not being of race, but that is the most racist thing I’ve seen posted on here yet. Maybe you should have left your contradicting opinion to yourself. Do some more research before you make another comment!

All the Hispanic racial grandees (La Raza, MALDEF, MeCha.. etc) come from the same utopian sixties’ school as the black race hustlers and poverty pimps. They persist in the old delusion of all the wretched of the earth uniting against the White Devil. They adamantly refuse to acknowledge the black vs. brown violence of recent years (and the growing competition for political patronage and welfare schwag). You can bet they will be as silent on l’ affaire Zimmerman as NOW was over O.J. The out-and-out gangsters could hardly care less. Unless someone actually does violence to Zimmerman or there is another L.A ’91-style riot rest assured the brown establishment will be looking the other way. Zimmerman is “hispanic” by way of his immigrant Peruvian mother. He is not a member of any “tribe”.

The average hispanic voter however, is taking note. Obama has already just taken a big bite out of whatever remains of his hispanic support by posthumously adopting the late Master Treyvon and setting the Dogs of Holder after Zimmerman. If he and the MSM think a Rodney King 2.0 will somehow take everybody’s minds off gas prices and unemployment he is fooling himself.


You should reread the exact quote…

“If the Blacks want to riot, arrest them. If the whites want to defend themselves, protect them.”

@trueactivist: My homework is done idiot breath. Like I said, show me the proof regarding what you say. Your really good at making accusation without proof. Then again you’re a liberal wacho so this is your standard position. Please go back to your mothers nipple.

@TRUTH: Once again, as I said, you have NO proof of what took place with this incident but because you don’t like it you whine like a baby. Innocent until proven guilty idiot. Once again, I want to see proof because I sure as H don’t believe your rant.

You guys are so blind an ignorant!! If you can’t see that this was cold blooded murder you are (excuse my language) a fuking idiot. The self defense went out the window when Zimmerman stepped out of his vehicle and approached trayvon. If he would have stayed in his vehicle like he was told a fight would have never broke out an trayvon would still b alive. But Zimmerman obviously wanted some sort of controversy to take it amongst himself to get out of the vehicle. That’s the whole key an the the fact that u dumbass rednecks dont realize it blows me away. Justice will b served one way or the other! Panther pride:)

@ Derricks Carroll – Gee thanks for that instructive wisdom. Now we all know that no one is allowed to walk the sidewalks where they live is some black kid is out there. Cause lawd Knows, we wouldn’t want to get the ass whoopin we’d be asking for.


Zimmerman had no business being in the complex he lived in. He had no right to be on the sidewalk he paid for. Cause Tray the royal Oblamer look alike was out there! (all kneel and avert your eyes!!!)

@CommonSense: As you stated before,this should not be about race. How did you possibly even include white people in this when Zimmerman isn’t even White? Are you sure you did your research smart a$$, or are you just commenting to state your racist points about protecting White people? Don’t contradict yourself,please. You look like a fool. Black people aren’t rioting against whites. They are rioting for justice for Trayvon, against men like Zimmerman! Clearly you have not done your homework. Race is definitely NOT the issue! There are even more white people rioting than blacks! If you had really done your homework,you would know that!!! So do you think just black people should be arrested now since whites are rioting also? You are a true CLOWN in society. Good day!

the difference is that all those crimes you listed, law enforcement is working hard to justify those cases. If they would have done a proper investigation on this case there wouldn’t be so much hype, and it also wouldn’t be about black and white. But seeing how it’s plain as day that this was not self defense Zimmerman and the Sanford police are getting exactly what they deserve. I knew trayvon an his father personally and seen them on a regular basis on the softball field. I can promise you that trayvon posts a threat to no one! He was a well mannered kid always yes sir no sir an very respectful. They say he was 140lbs that must have been soaking wet cause he was as big as a twig. The fact that a 200lb man couldn’t hold his ground against him is really suspicious to me. My theory is that Zimmerman let him win the battle so he could win the war an get away with it. But I can almost guarantee trayvon didn’t make first contact, he was not that type of person.

@Derricks Carroll: Thank you!!!!!!! You said everything that I was thinking all in one. And the idiots on this website HAVE TO BE rednecks, otherwise race would not have been bought into the equation nor would they be defending a clearly GUILTY MAN!!……….who is not even white. But, just the fact that Trayvon is black and is getting much attention from this issue, the white rednecks have come out to defend Zimmerman just to make sure that this innocent black child not get justice.


Fuck all of you racist rednecks!

Info leaking like crazy…doing business on Twitter would indicate…not too bright the bulb.


@tgsctsiz the dispatcher told him not to follow him and not approach him, but he ignored that an continued not only to keep following him but also get out of the vehicle an ultimately kill him. So to answer your question was it against the law, of course you dumb fuck. Both harassment and stalking is against the law and he did both after he was told not too.. Am I talking to an 8 year old kid right now?

@Derricks Carroll: @trueactivist: Both of you cool it with the language or you are outta here. First and last warning.

@Curt: put me out then!!!!!!!!! I said what I had to say. My point was proven. I need not say more! What’s right is right and what’s wrong is DEAD wrong,..just like the killing of Trayvon. Good day to all you racist ass ASSHOLES!

@trueactivist: You wish is my command genius. Buh bye

@Derricks Carroll: Yep no proof so you try the name calling. Didn’t expect anything less from an idiot. Good idea for you to try a different place, this one is far above your brainless mind.

And just so u dumb ass hillbillys know I am 100% white.. You guys are so caught up in the whole white on black stuff that u could care less about who’s right or who’s wrong. I personally could care less if Zimmerman was white black or puerto rican he still killed a innocent kid. If he was so scared an thought his life was in danger by this thug in a hoodie then why get out of the truck an approach him. Doesnt make sense. You guys need to look at the big picture an stop thinking about colors. This is ridiculous.

@keyser I can reassure you trayvon was not a drug dealer lol.. He wouldn’t even sit in the same vehicle w someone that was smoking a cigarette much less anything else.. So try again I seen it first hand my man

@commonsense doesn’t ur name say common sense?? Now that’s something with no proof;) maybe another day sir

@Derricks Carroll – You should try raising your level on knowlege. The City itself has confirmed in ots’ own review of the matter that they did *NOT* tell Zimmerman to stop following him. they only advised that he “did not need to”.
But maybe English isn’t your thing. Sorry but I don’t speak stupid, can you get a translator?

So since I was told by you to stop w the language that means I should listen or I’ll b kicked out right? Just like when the dispatcher told Zimmerman not to follow or approach trayvon he should have listened too right? That would make you a hippocritical dumbass for starting this thread right?? Hope you have a good rest of the day. You don’t have to kick me out I’ll leave on my own;)

@Derricks Carroll:

hippocritical dumbass

Hilarious. Ok…you’re gone also, buh bye

And what have we learned:

With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.

That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.

Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings he described and re-enacted for police what he says happened.

In his version of events, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him

Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.

Civil rights leaders and thousands of others have demanded Zimmerman’s arrest, calling Trayvon a victim of racial profiling and Zimmerman a vigilante.

Trayvon was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, they say, who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more sinister than a package of Skittles and can of Arizona iced tea.

Supporters have held rallies in Sanford, Miami, New York and Tallahassee, calling the case a tragic miscarriage of injustice.

Activist Al Sharpton headlined a rally in Sanford Thursday that drew an estimated 8,000 people. The Rev. Jesse Jackson yesterday spoke at an Eatonville church, where he called Trayvon a martyr.

Another rally is scheduled for 4 p.m. today in Sanford.

Zimmerman has gone into hiding. A fringe group, the New Black Panthers, have offered a $10,000 reward for his capture.

Police have been reluctant to provided details about all their evidence, but this is what they’ve disclosed to the Sentinel:

Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community.

Trayvon was visiting his father’s fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.

Zimmerman called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Trayvon as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.

Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot. When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.

There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they’re not sure what happened.

Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.

Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police.

Trayvon then said, “Well, you do now” or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose.

Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.

Zimmerman began yelling for help.

Several witnesses heard those cries, and there’s been a dispute about from whom they came: Zimmerman or Trayvon.

Lawyers for Trayvon’s family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.

One witnesses, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.

Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest from very close range, according to authorities.

When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head.

Paramedics gave him first aid, but he said no to going to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.

The Department of Justice last week opened a civil rights investigation into what happened, and Gov. Rick Scott appointed a special prosecutor.

It’s not clear whether the special prosecutor, Angela Corey, the state attorney for Duval, Clay and Nassau counties, will have Zimmerman arrested, announce that there’s not enough evidence to file a manslaughter charge or present evidence to a grand jury.

rstutzman@tribune.com or 407-650-6394.

Copyright © 2012, Orlando Sentinel

@TSgt Ciz:
Sarge, I don’t consider myself to be a timid man. I was in Para Rescue before I broke an ankle during training and as punishment for giving up my guaranteed electronics field to try to become a PJ, I had to be a cop for two years. As a cop, or rather security specialist, I went through air base ground defense. I was trained with several weapons in both fields. At the end of my two year punishment, I could have gone back to Para Rescue, but decided to go into avionics.
I say all that to qualify this:
It’s not that I would be afraid to follow someone, it’s that I just don’t think it is a good idea. I understand what you’re saying about the apples to oranges analogy, and I agree. If someone doesn’t really run away, but instead just keeps walking through or between houses, it’s a different scenario.
At the same time, just following someone is an apples to oranges scenario compared to what happened in Sanford and the situation you describe. I walk in my neighborhood in the wee hours of the morning. I live in a nice neighborhood, but we have some coyotes, foxes, and bobcats. So I carry my .45 and a taser My taser is also a flashlight and makes a pretty scary noise when discharged. If someone started following me, I would most likely turn on them with both in hand. There is a Georgia State Trooper that lives in my neighborhood and he has said the same thing. It is best not to pursue a suspicious person. It is better to call the police and let them deal with it. The most important thing to do is go back to your home and protect your family.
I don’t know that Zimmerman did anything wrong, and I have no problem waiting for the full report to come out. I think everyone should. Everyone has had an initial reaction to this, and I am no different. My initial reaction was that this would not have happened if Zimmerman had not followed Martin.

One thing I am absolutely sure of though is this. My wife is going to be pissed when she finds out she is no longer considered Latina or Hispanic, but rather white Hispanic.

@ Aqua,
Hmm have we crossed paths before? I was enlisted 306×0 before receiving an appointment to the Air Force Academy. When the economy turned so bad my mother was in danger of losing the house I resigned my appointment because my pay as an NCO allowed me to send more money home. In order to mitigate the traningx2 service requirement I was given, and took the option to become a CCT/ROMAD. At the time the distinctions between the two was vague and transitory. In going through the pipeline I knew a lot of Para guys. I was eventually injured in an in flight incident. C130’s don’t barrel roll fully loaded very well. All this between 1975 and 1981.

Now I appreciate comment about not following someone. But I think you would agree, each situation is it’s own. The choice to follow and how close depends on a lot of things so far not discussed like line of sight, quality of lighting, presence of other people, reasonable expectation that they might turn on you (hey, if they are truly innocently going about their business, why would there be any confrontation?)
In my neighborhood, I we live right next to wild life areas. It is common to have deer, coyotes, and even the rare bear, so when I walk the dog (or the old man-me), I’m often armed one way or another.
After the attack on my neighbor (the sweetest 90 yr old gem you could ever imagine) I don’t hesitate to confront strangers. And I’m not going to stop. Not even if Aye comes up here to give me the GFY. Because I know I am one of the most capable people in the neighborhood and the police are too long away. The good thing is, I have several supporting neighbors who I contact before approaching anyone so the who thing is observed and sometimes even recorded.

Gee, I wonder who paid for all of Trayvon’s gold teeth? At $1,500 per crown, it looks like he has about $15,000 worth there. No doubt he had a job after school /sarc…and I wonder how they got knocked out in the first place? Nice tats, too. Oh yeah, his Twitter tag is @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA

Now it comes out that he was suspended from school for smoking (or selling?) dope on school grounds? Well, we won’t know that for sure because his lawyers have sealed that information.

Nice kid. Model citizen.


I’m really trying to see this from your point of view, but I just can’t seem to get my head that far up my ass.

@Derricks Carroll: Yep just as I thought. You have NO proof just your own stupid opinion of which you are entitled. Dumb Ass!!

Mr. Zimmerman has not spoken other than in a police report.
The Chicago Tribune quotes police as saying that EVIDENCE and EYEWITNESSES back up what Mr. Zimmerman reported.

“…..police sources say Martin was the aggressor on Feb. 26, knocking Zimmerman to the ground with a single punch and then climbing on top of the 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain and slamming the back of his head into the ground. Police say this account, given by Zimmerman, is supported by eyewitnesses….”

Police say Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a fat lip and confirm that the back of his head was cut. He received first aid at the scene but refused to go to the hospital and received medical treatment the following day, according to the Sentinel’s sources.

Zimmerman was heading to the grocery store when he spotted Martin and called police to report a black youth acting suspiciously, possibly on drugs.

Zimmerman stepped out of his SUV to follow Martin, even though a police dispatcher told him he didn’t need to do so.

Zimmerman told police he he’d lost sight of Martin and was heading back to his car when the youth suddenly stepped into his path.
According to the Sentinel, Martin asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cellphone. Martin then said something like, “Well, you do now” and punched him, according to the Sentinel’s sources.

This is the most detail I’ve read in a while.
Meantime the parents of Treyvor are concerned about their boy not being ”RESPECTED” in death.
Gang members kill people for seeming to not ”respect” them enough all the time.
Facts are facts.
Hiding facts is not equal to respect when a crime has been committed.
Police locally tell me they often get NO cooperation when a gang-affiliated shooting happens.
The ”victims” always want to handle it themselves.
And isn’t that the strategy Treyvor’s family is following?
Something is rotten to the core in any ”culture” that encourages hiding the truth, getting personal revenge and living only for ”respect.”
Too bad Obama hasn’t used this for a teachable moment.

I have another question: “Will the Homeowner’s Association back up their Citizens Watch guy, or leave him twisting in the wind.” From personal experience, I suspect the latter.

@John Cooper:

Zimmerman has been kicked to the curb by the college he was attending…GET! OUT!…NO SCHOOL FOR YOU.

Kaiser: Can you believe that??? College Kicks Out Man Who Killed Trayvon Martin

I hope he sues the sh*t out of Seminole State College

@Nan G:

“Meantime the parents of Treyvor are concerned about their boy not being ”RESPECTED” in death.”

His mother is full of sh!t based on her recent actions listed below.

“MARCH 26–The mother of Trayvon Martin has filed two applications to secure trademarks containing her late son’s name, records show.

Sybrina Fulton is seeking marks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings made last week with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. In both instances, Fulton, 46, is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products.

The March 21 USPTO applications, each of which cost $325, were filed by an Orlando, Florida law firm representing Fulton, whose first name is spelled “Sabrina” in the trademark records.

Martin, 17, was shot to death last month during a confrontation with George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain. Martin, pictured above, was visiting his father’s home in Sanford, Florida when he was shot to death by Zimmerman, who has claimed that he was acting in self-defense. (6 pages)”


@John Cooper:

All in due time John. I am sure every North Shore Jewish attorney in Chicago has plans for going after Calypso Louie ,Jesse, Al, NBPP, and the MSM if the Grand Jury cuts him loose.

Remember that movie…”Absence of Malice”? Won’t work here, this was deliberate.

@Keyser Söze: “Absence of Malice”? Won’t work here, this was deliberate. ”

Exactly. This is a twofer for the media: It furthers their anti-gun agenda, and further’s their racist agenda (racism always being white against black of course – never the other way around).

I have another rhetorical question: “Why would anyone wear a hoodie when it’s 85 degrees outside?”

The only reason I can come up with is “to avoid being recognized on security cameras”. It will be interesting to find out if the gated community where this incident took place had security cameras.

@John Cooper:

So true…

I find the “hoodie” protest rather comical…for 100 years the Blacks complained about men wearing hoods wanting to lynch them…now they are putting on hoods and talking about lynching someone.

Welcome to “Alice in Wonderland”.

@Keyser Söze: “…for 100 years the Blacks complained about men wearing hoods wanting to lynch them…now they are putting on hoods and talking about lynching someone.”

Funny you should mention that: Chris Muir of Day by Day Cartoon noticed that irony as well:


@John Cooper:

I think that irony is catching on everywhere…


@TSgt Ciz:
I enlisted in November ’79. I was at Lackland for almost a year. We probably chewed on some of the same dirt though. I ended up working on C-130s, C-141s, and C-5s at Kadena. Loved that place.

I’ve been thinking about following someone in my situation, where the cops respond rather quickly and in a place that may be more rural. I would probably confront someone a little more aggressively in a setting where the cops took time to arrive.

This will boil down to who the aggressor was. If Zimmerman was playing policeman and chased Martin and an altercation ensued, tha makes him the agressor. If Zimmerman was only following Martin and Martin attacked him, then Martin is the aggressor. The evidence will tell.

@another vet: Another Vet, thanks for your service to our country. I inlisted in the Navy in 1972 and was a corpsman unitl 1978. A little disabled but making it in life. Caught the end of the Viet Nam War.

Turns out there were 6 witnesses to what happened.
The Daily Caller has a Scribid with all three pages of the original police report on its web site.
Since Zimmerman was handcuffed and placed in the back of the patrol car then taken to an interview room and interrogated, I’d say he was ”arrested.”

Edited to add:
A lot of people claim Trayvon weighed 140 but the police report has him at 160.
Slim but not AS slim for a 6 foot tall guy.
Hubby is 5’11” and 150.
Wiry, not thin, is how I would describe him.

@Comm0n Sense: Thanks for your service as well. I’m a tad on the disabled side as well, so we have more than one thing in common. So you were a corpsman and not a corpseman?

@another vet: Sadly I was a bit of both. My experience in the Navy ended up being the foundation for my professional career but the price tag was rather high. I hope you doing well.

Crimmeny, are all us here steel pot vets with limps?

@Comm0n Sense: Hef@Comm0n Sense: Hopefully your dealings with the VA have been better than mine.

@TSgt Ciz: Starting to look that way but I’m sure most of us wouldn’t trade our service in for any amount of money and would do it all over again if we had to.

Thanks to all the Vets and a special shout out to our V.N. corpsman. My experiance with the V.A has been good.

@Richard Wheeler: Thanks Richard. Living in the San Diego area provides very good VA facilities. Busy but honestly I can’t complain one bit!!

Common Sense You are deservedly welcome. I live in San Clemente. They said Long Beach, I said La Jolla My primary is in the new Oceanside facility.

OFF SUBJECT Just watched Marco Rubio enthusiastically endorse Romney
Very impressive young man. As VP he can secure win for Romney or decline, watch BHO win and be clear frontrunner in 2016