Worst President Ever!

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This news is hardly shocking:

President Obama’s slow ride down Gallup’s daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.

Since March, Obama’s job approval rating has hovered above Carter’s, considered among the 20th century’s worst presidents, but today Obama’s punctured Carter’s dismal job approval line. On their comparison chart, Gallup put Obama’s job approval rating at 43 percent compared to Carter’s 51 percent.

…What’s more, Gallup finds that Obama’s overall job approval rating so far has averaged 49 percent. Only three former presidents have had a worse average rating at this stage: Carter, Ford, and Harry S. Truman. Only Truman won re-election in an anti-Congress campaign that Obama’s team is using as a model.

Anyone who has lived through the last 3 years with this yahoo in office knows the man is worse than Carter….and now the polls prove it.

But even that doesn’t tell the whole ugly truth. Who are the people who still give him a higher than 50% approval rating? Minorities and those making less than $2,000 grand a year.

Even better news:

Obama’s approval rating has decreased among all six partisan/ideology groups Gallup tracks on a regular basis since January, but it has dropped the most — 10 percentage points, from 40% to 30% — among pure independents. These are the roughly 14% of national adults who neither identify with one of the two major parties nor indicate a leaning. Obama’s approval rating has declined by nearly as much — eight points — among moderate/liberal Republicans, from 29% to 21%.

In recent years it has been thee Independents who have decided elections so on the surface the polls appear good for the GOP….but, I wouldn’t be too confident just yet. The field of candidates on the GOP side is anything but stellar and the Soros machine hasn’t even started yet. The Soros conglomerate will stop at nothing to ensure he gets re-elected.

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Obama has never been president. He may hold the title, but that’s all. He’s been bought and paid for, scripted, protected and totally useless. We shall persevere until a real leader is elected and we can kindly show BO, his travelin’ wife and his unfortunate kids out the door (check the silver). I hope we have learned a lesson not to go for the glitz. Anyone who cannot give a 5 sentence without a teleprompter is deficient in more than one way. I also hope the media has learned a valuable lesson too. Can’t wait until election day.

What will save Obama is that he’ll be facing the most out-of-touch-with-reality GOP ever.

After consistently defending the lowest effective tax rates in half a century for the richest 1% of the American population, republicans will follow up by refusing to extend payroll tax relief for American workers–in effect raising taxes on America’s middle and working class families in the run-up to the 2012 elections. The consequences for American workers won’t be theoretical. They’ll be immediately obvious when the average American’s take-home pay suddenly drops.

You don’t need a Magic 8 Ball to predict what the results will be. All Obama has to do is explain what happened. He’s pretty good when it comes to explaining the obvious.

I see where they left out the Zombie vote, the truely dead vote, the made up name vote and the we’re really too stupid to be voting, much less breathing vote….oh wait, sorry they’re call Liberals/Democrats/Socialists/OWS.

Every night I pray that someone will get the guts to impeach this fraud and those that foisted him off on us.

@Greg: Greg, have another shot of Kool Aid. 0-bama hasn’t defended anything in his life, especially America. He holds the distinct title of worst ever and any one of the Republican candidates would be better than 0-bama and his failures.

@Common Sense:

We’re all dipping into the kool-aid. You’re just drinking a different flavor.

@Greggie: My, my, my; you ARE a slow learner. Your socialist view of taxes and how the “rich” shouldn’t get to keep what they have earned has been debunked here at FA multiple times.

But keep up your class warfare, I know it makes you feel good.

Why shouldn’t people who aren’t rich get to keep more of what they have earned?

@Greg: Why should they?? Did they work harder for it?? Do they deserve it more?? Did they contribute to society more?? Is their value to society more? Do you believe Socialism porvides for a better economic solution than capitalism? What’s your point?? Time for you to come out of the closet on this one dude.

@Common Sense: Greggie is an avowed Marxist/socialist, his bloomers have been showing for a long time.

If Obama continues this way then he will get lower than Dubya’s pitiful lowest approval rating of 25.

‘Minorities and those making less than $2,000 grand a year.’
Wow – so they don’t count? Or do you consider them the ugly truth? Would you prefer it was white people making over $1million a year giving him over 50% approval rating?

The Obama thing has been a sham from the beginning. He was protected by the media during his campaign and they are still giving hima a pass on his deeds. One only has to look at the 2 Koreas to see Obama’s Marxist ideals will not work. George Sorros the famous Obama supporter and claimed to be socialist and Warren Buffet both have profitted very nicely during Obama’s tenure. So who is really for the rich?

@Greg:

Why shouldn’t people who aren’t rich get to keep more of what they have earned?

I am all for that; but this has to be balanced with, (1) they ought to pay some taxes and (2) they need to pay for their own retirement via payroll taxes. Are these people going to reach retirement age and demand their social security that they have not paid into?

@GaffaUK:

If Obama continues this way then he will get lower than Dubya’s pitiful lowest approval rating of 25.

Unlikely. That low rating was because of a continual pounding by the press and a concerted email effort from dedicated liberals (I got so much hatred-of-Bush email for the last 4 years of his presidency that I became interested in politics as a result).

@Dee Cocheran:

The Obama thing has been a sham from the beginning. He was protected by the media during his campaign and they are still giving hima a pass on his deeds.

Before the Democrat campaign even began, there were dozens of mainstream articles mentioning the Bush economy (which was very strong back then) and the words “Great Depression.”

Today, where we actually are closer to a Great Depression than ever before, we do not find those words occurring in close proximity to the “Obama Economy.”

@Greg:
The reason Obama wants the payroll tax cut and not a tax rate cut is because the people he wants the money to flow to are not paying any income tax anyway. As a matter of fact, most get some of their fellow citizen’s money in the form of earned income tax credit. I’m fine with keeping the payroll tax cut, I just think it should work like a 401K. If you are not paying the payroll tax, the money does not show up in your SSN account.
I truly do not understand your views on taxes. If we doubled the tax rate for the 50% of Americans that do pay taxes, we would still be in trouble. We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. The A$$ clowns “representing” (both sides) us are making sweetheart deals for themselves, making insider trades, and screwing all of us in the process. We need to stop arguing with each other and start finding a way to stop them.

@Cary:

So you think obama is doing a good job?

As one of his 1st acts as president, Obama sent back the bust of Churchill to the UK.
Later his wife hugged the Queen.
More recently Obama spoke over the British National Anthem.

Yesterday, he showed that he still has no knowledge or understanding of the UK.
During an interview Obama said: ‘All of us are deeply disturbed by the, err, crashing of, err, the English Embassy, err, the embassy of the United Kingdom.’

No, Mr. President.
It is the British Embassy.
Gee, you are president of the USA and you don’t know that?!?

Worst.
President.
Ever.

@Nan G:

Are you sure, Nan? Don’t you remember how so many historians and educators named President Obama as the best president ever??

From that story:

Historians Declare Obama Best President in U.S. History

WASHINGTON D.C. – A group of historians polled by Georgetown University has named Barack Obama the best President in the history of the United States. Not wanting to be seen as premature, a spokesman for the group stated that based on what the president has planned for the country, and assuming all campaign and inaugural promises come to pass, Obama’s legacy will absolutely trounce that of all previous occupiers of the Oval Office.

“We felt we waited long enough in making this inevitable declaration,” historian Albert Hedgefellow said at the press conference this morning. “It’s obvious to anyone with a knowledge of world events and conjecture that President Obama will end up with accomplishments greatly outnumbering those of Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, and Franklin Roosevelt combined.”

Wow!
A down ding for my factual post#17?
What?
Did I lie?
Or maybe I just didn’t show my work.
1. Barack Obama sends bust of Winston Churchill on its way back to Britain
Barack Obama has sent Sir Winston Churchill packing and pulse rates soaring among anxious British diplomats.

2. Michelle Obama hugged Queen Elizabeth yesterday at Buckingham Palace in London. While that may sound like it’s no big deal, actually is a breach of royal protocol. No one is supposed to touch the queen.

3. Obama toasted the queen (from notes and with very odd pausing) and didn’t stop talking after the British anthem God Save the Queen started playing, insisting on everybody ignoring it, too by raising his glass. BTW, as this article points out, Obama didn’t know what year it is, either. (2011) He signed the guest book at Westminster Abbey by writing the date as “24 May 2008.”

PS:
Obama likes me!
Here’s his latest email to me:

Friend —

If you win a seat at the next dinner with three other supporters and me, you’ll get to bring a guest.

I thought I’d bring one, too — so I invited Michelle.

She’s in.

Donate $3 or whatever you can to be automatically entered to sit down for a meal with Michelle and me.

Michelle and I don’t get to spend as much time as we’d like with the people who are building the 2012 campaign.

But we are incredibly grateful for all you’re doing, whether it’s volunteering and having one-on-one conversations in your communities or chipping in what you can to help build the organization.

We’re looking forward to the chance to thank you in person, so I hope you’ll take us up on it.

Make a donation today to be automatically entered for the chance to join us at the table.

Thanks,

Barack

OMG!
Obama just blew past worst president ever to enemy of US citizens.

Who besides me thinks that outsourcing security responsibilities is an inherently flawed concept?

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/11/pakistani-mercs/

Obama’s State Department is to hire “local guards” to protect its diplomats in Pakistan.

Yes, now. Right after a U.S. military mission gone wrong killed 24 Pakistani soldiers, delivering another battering to an already fragile alliance.

The State Department is seeking local Pakistani guards to keep its diplomats safe at the embassy in Islamabad and consulates in Karachi, Lahore, and Peshawar.
Those guards will need to “deter potential terrorist attacks,” according to a contract pre-solicitation, by “restricting entry of unauthorized personnel, operation of walk-through metal detectors, and hand-held detectors.”

It’s disturbingly too easy to imagine Pakistani guards working with terror groups to give dangerous people access to a U.S. official or facility, both alluring targets. Pakistani troops whom the U.S. has funded and equipped for a decade, at a minimum, look the other way when insurgents fire rockets at U.S. troops across the border in Afghanistan. Hired Pakistani guards could just as easily ignore the trill of a hand-held metal detector. Or strap themselves with explosives.

What kind of background checks will those guards go through? It’ll be “conducted by the Contractor in accordance with Pakistan law,” the pre-solicitation announces. State’s trust-but-don’t-verify record doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.

Didn’t we used to have US troops protecting our embassies?

Have some respect. Sometimes Present Obama’s evil twin, President Obama shows up to read the TelePrompTer.

@Nan G:

Wow!
A down ding for my factual post#17?

Of course not, Nan. I posted that with a smile on my face.

Worst.
President.
Ever.

As that put a smile on my face.

@Hard Right:

There are many areas in which he has disappointed me. The trouble is I can’t remember a time when the choices were more poor than they are now. Romney pointed out the flaws in Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 plan, which I largely agree with. But I can’t get behind Romney because I don’t know which Romney we’re going to get. Gingrich co-authored DOMA, which as a liberally leaning person, I simply cannot support, as well as recently hearing him say that many child labor laws are “stupid” – I can’t even go any further with him at that point. And those seem to be the leading candidates against Obama. Many liberals are behind Ron Paul, but haven’t looked closely enough to know that he really really with what is important to a lot of liberals.

Obama’s strength is in the alternative choices we face. His weakness is his pretty words aren’t backed by
strong actions. Not pretty state of affairs.

Cary: Gingrich co-authored DOMA, which as a liberally leaning person, I simply cannot support, as well as recently hearing him say that many child labor laws are “stupid” – I can’t even go any further with him at that point.

With what in the below observation do you disagree?

The comment came in response to an undergrad’s question about income equality during his talk at Harvard’s Kennedy School.

“This is something that no liberal wants to deal with,” Gingrich said. “Core policies of protecting unionization and bureaucratization against children in the poorest neighborhoods, crippling them by putting them in schools that fail has done more to create income inequality in the United States than any other single policy. It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, child laws, which are truly stupid.

“You say to somebody, you shouldn’t go to work before you’re what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You’re totally poor. You’re in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I’ve tried for years to have a very simple model,” he said. “Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”

He added, “You go out and talk to people, as I do, you go out and talk to people who are really successful in one generation. They all started their first job between nine and 14 years of age. They all were either selling newspapers, going door to door, they were doing something, they were washing cars.”

Unions would, of course, be royally PO’ed their union janitor membership would be cut down, ergo their dues. However most of us old timers had jobs when we were young that helped form a work ethic. This is the thrust of Newt’s comments on child labor laws.. that they make it prohibitive for the young to work. And it’s most especially a negative impact on the poor and minorities. As Hispanic CNN contributor, Ruben Navarrette wrote:

Talk to hugely successful people, Gingrich said, and most of them will say that they got an early start learning about jobs and responsibility and earning money for their labor. Tragically, that’s not happening with many young people today. Gingrich pointed out that, for instance, among African-American teenagers, the unemployment rate is a staggering 43%.

Now, you can spin a statistic like that one of two ways. You can say these unemployed black teenagers are helpless victims and the system is working against them. Or you can say that many of these teenagers are unemployable because no one ever taught them the skills necessary to hold down a job.

Gingrich thinks government should have a hand in creating a “pathway to work” so “people get in the work habit and learn the skills to be successful.”

Bravo for Newt. Politicians don’t usually speak this way, which is why so many of them have mastered the art of talking for hours without saying anything of importance. I can’t imagine Mitt Romney saying these things; he’s too busy telling people what they want to hear to tell them what they need to hear. This subject is as important as they come, and Gingrich deserves credit for kicking off the discussion, especially since he was sure to be pummeled for stating the obvious.

Here’s the obvious: Americans have lost their work ethic, and some never had one to lose. They grow up — or put more precisely, they’re raised — thinking of so many jobs as beneath them that they wake up one day not knowing how to do any job.

But of course Navarrette, who is one of those supposedly non-existent Hispanic conservatives, is assailed by forum members over at the DemocraticUnderground, calling him a “fake” Hispanic. Much like any black American who is conservative must be an “Uncle Tom.” You can read Navarette’s bio here, and make your own assumptions.

My point is, I don’t know where you got your story about Newt’s observations on getting the youth acclimated to a work ethic at early years. But he certainly isn’t suggesting putting them in factories for cheap Chinese labor wages and long hours… which is the impression I do think you have. Whether that’s because of the sources you pick for your news, or the fact you don’t read more indepth about the issue, is a question only you can answer. Maybe you used the NYTs, which characterized Newt’s suggestion as:

helping children bootstrap their way out of poverty by paying them to mop and clean their schools, and rolling back child labor laws that he has called “truly stupid.”

Woof… talk about a leap off the cliff, and into the abyss of stupid.

But my suggestion is that you look over the excerpts I put above, and tell me what is so very heinous and offensive. Then you might want to consider that not only will young kids have a choice to take that job and have some cash and work experience, but the money saved on education overhead from union janitors can be better used for what it should be used for… education and supplies.

As far as the DOMA… as POTUS he can’t do squat about that since any legislation has to originate in Congress and pass both chambers. The chances of Congress wasting their time on this, considering our economic woes, over the next term or two are likely zip, zero, and nada. So I think you’re overrating his personal beliefs about marriage being between a man and a woman. In fact, the majority of politicians that have held that office, and most in Congress, hold that same view. But truthfully, it ain’t high on the pecking order these days.

@Cary: You said:

The trouble is I can’t remember a time when the choices were more poor than they are now.

Really?

Four years ago NO ONE was talking about new tax plans. We have several strong candidates and in fact I would take Newt, Romney, Cain, Bachmann, Perry or Santorum over Obama any day of the week. Wouldn’t you?

You then said:

Obama’s strength is in the alternative choices we face.

At the risk of harping on this, might I remind you that just mere weeks away from Reagan’s first landslide Presidential election in 1980, Time magazine had all but written him off. In essence, Time was saying exactly the same thing you just did, that Carter’s strength was in his opponent.

What we, as the electorate need to do, and in particular those of us in the center and on the right is to stop falling for the narrative of the left that the GOP field is abysmal. We also need to realize that no matter who we support on the GOP side, not one single vote has yet to be cast. So get behind the candidate you like, pitch for them, send them financial support, write articles online and to your newspapers.

Bottom line, just quit falling for the MSM’s false narrative. This is by far the best all around GOP field in many years.

Minorities and those making less than $2,000 grand a year.

Minor gaff: $2,000 grand a year = $1,000,000 a year.

The rating of our King-in-Chief is backwards. It is assuming that Obama wants to do what is best for the USA. If they would figure it from the angle of which president was best at destroying the USA, he would be the winner.

100 or so of the original OWSers got police escort to come downtown last night so they could protest Obama for being a puppet of the 1%.
One wore an Obama mask and carried a sign that read: “I sold out!”
NYTimes has more.

Might the OWSers really stay home on election day?
Maybe some of them will.

I voted for Obama and I am not sorry and I will tell you why. There were to be at least 2 and maybe more Supreme Court Nominies after 2008. In 2008 the make-up of the Court was 5 on the Right and 4 on the Left. had aepublican won he would ave replaced the 2 retiring Justice’s with 2 Conservatives that would make it 7-2 and with Ginsberg on the ropes maybe 8-1 Judges are there for Life, would you really want the Country pushed in one direction, either direction for the next 50 years?

Am I happy with Obama? I have seen better but Obama will have to get a whole lot worse to catch Bush for the Worse. Two unfunded never ending Wars, Prescription Drug Benifits and the Patriot Act, come on.

@joe: When you come down off the high you are on, you might want to look at Obama’s $5 trillion spending, unending corruption and the fact that the guy can’t fill out a bank form without a teleprompter.

BTW, just for kicks…

Name ONE way Obama has improved the economy – cite sources and provide links.

Anticrocks, I wish I was High. I did not mention Obama’s spending so what has your reply got to do with my Post. What did Obama spend the Money on, 5 Trillion, wow. Did he put it in his Bank account? Where did it go? I will tell you, it went to fix the mess that G.W Bush left. Off Budget Wars and Priscription Drug Bennies, all unfunded. A taxcut for the Rich that was unneeded or wanted plus a $600 rebate to spend the surplus he inherited from Clinton. Short Memories cause Mistakes,like a second Term for Bush in 2004. Gore Vidal said at the time that it would take 100 years to undo the damage that Bush did in 8.

@anticsrocks: #28

Name ONE way Obama has improved the economy – cite sources and provide links.

You forgot to mention which country. Obama has improved the economy of several countries.

@joe: #29
If you add all of the spending of ALL of the presidents, from George Washington to George Bush 2, the total is less than Obama has already spent in three years. If the economy’s problem is that too much money was spent, how is spending more money going to fix the problem of spending too much money?

@joe: You are saying that you honestly don’t know on what Obama spent $5 trillion on since he has been in office?

Hard to have a discussion with you when you feign ignorance of a subject.

@joe: Okay I get it. Obama has no legs to stand on in this debate. I get that all you have is your BlameBush BB gun and it is loaded up and rarein to go.

So fire away. If, admist all that Bush Blamin’, you happen to find some time, I would really like my question to you answered.

BTW, just for kicks…

Name ONE way Obama has improved the economy – cite sources and provide links. – Source

@Smorgasbord: LOL! Good point!

*ahem*

Name ONE way Obama has improved the United States of America economy – cite sources and provide links. – Source

[Hi …Aces. Love your blog. Spotted this web “noah” (non-obama-approved-heckle)!

OBAMA FULFILLING THE BIBLE

America’s founders spoke highly of the Bible, even without teleprompters. But Barack Hussein Obama, even with teleprompters, studiously avoids the following Bible verses and the other related information:

Proverbs 19:10 (NIV): “It is not fitting for a fool to live in luxury – how much worse for a slave to rule over princes!”
Also Proverbs 30:22 (NIV) which says that the earth cannot bear up under “a servant who becomes king.”
And Ecclesiastes 5:2-3 (KJV) advises: “let thy words be few…a fool’s voice is known by multitude of words.”
Although Obama is not descended from slaves, he may feel that he’s destined to become a black-slavery avenger.
Or maybe an enslaver of all free citizens!
For some stunning info on Pres. Obama and his fellow subversives, Google “Imam Bloomberg’s Sharia Mosque,” “Michelle Obama’s Allah-day,” “Obama Supports Public Depravity,” “David Letterman’s Hate Etc.,” “Un-Americans Fight Franklin Graham” and also “Sandra Bernhard, Larry David, Kathy Griffin, Bill Maher, Joan Rivers, Sarah Silverman.” Also Google “Prof. F. N. Lee’s ISLAM IN THE BIBLE [PDF].”
PS – Since Christians are commanded to ask God to send severe judgment on persons who commit and support the worst forms of evil (see I Cor. 5 and note “taken away”), Christians everywhere should constantly pray that the Lord will soon “take away” or at least overthrow all US leaders (including subversive, America-hating, Jesus-bashing Hollywood shmucks) who continue to sear their conscience, dangle every unspeakably vile vice before young people, and arrogantly trample the God-given rights of the majority including the rights of the unborn. Do we need a second American Revolution?
PPS – For a rare look at the 181-year-old endtime belief which has long neutralized millions of American patriots by promising them an “imminent rapture” off earth – which has diverted them away from being prepared to stand against all enemies, domestic as well as foreign – Google “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” “Pretrib Rapture Diehards,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” and “Pretrib Rapture – Hidden Facts” – all by the author of the bestselling nonfiction book “The Rapture Plot” (the most accurate and highly endorsed documentation on the pretrib rapture’s long-covered-up-but-now-revealed beginnings in Britain in 1830 – see Armageddon Books).

@Cary:

There are many areas in which he has disappointed me. The trouble is I can’t remember a time when the choices were more poor than they are now.

Did you see the Huckabee forum? You can find it on YouTube simply by searching those words. It was fantastic. It gave me new encouragement in our candidates.

There were no gotcha questions; there were no gimme questions. You had smart people asking smart questions of smart candidates. For anyone here who wants to see the best “debate” so far, that was it.

@Nan G:

Might the OWSers really stay home on election day?
Maybe some of them will.

Yeah, they might be busy defecating in public.

@joe:

I voted for Obama and I am not sorry and I will tell you why. There were to be at least 2 and maybe more Supreme Court Nominies after 2008. In 2008 the make-up of the Court was 5 on the Right and 4 on the Left. had aepublican won he would ave replaced the 2 retiring Justice’s with 2 Conservatives that would make it 7-2 and with Ginsberg on the ropes maybe 8-1 Judges are there for Life, would you really want the Country pushed in one direction, either direction for the next 50 years?

The problem here is activist judges. These are judges who define new laws, new regulations, new rights and new classes of people based upon goofy legal arguments and precedent. The Supreme Court was not designed to make law, define new classes of people, or to assign rights and privileges to those who did not have these rights and privileges before.

And, just so I am being clear on this, this does not matter if the resultant decision has the approval of 90% of the American population; making laws and conferring privilege is not their job. They are to provide a check and balance on the Legislative and Executive branches, but they are not to circumvent them or replace them.

Who in their right minds think that Anthony Kennedy, as he gets older and older, ought to be the man who makes some of the most consequential decisions for our country, giving him, time after time, even greater power than the president. After all, it will be his decision and his decision alone whether the government can force every man, woman and child to purchase healthcare insurance at what appears will be a cost of between $600 and $1000/month. Should one man make that decision? No matter what side of the debate you find yourself, you should be able to admit, this was not the intent of the founders of our country.

When a law truly comes into conflict with our constitution, then it should be struck down, with the advice, make this into a constitutional amendment and pass it that way, if it is so important; and strike down whatever part of the constitution that it is in conflict with.

Unfortunately, we all know exactly how 8 of the judges are going to rule, in a completely partisan fashion with 4 of them giving no thought to precedent or to established law, but simply choosing the side that they like.

@joe:

What did Obama spend the Money on, 5 Trillion, wow. Where did it go? I will tell you, it went to fix the mess that G.W Bush left.

A huge amount of this money went into the pockets of Obama bundlers and supporters. Liberals often do this. They spend a huge amount of money on this or that cause–and maybe it is a sincere belief that they have. Yet, somewhere along the line, they skim off a lot of cash for themselves or for their supporters (both Dems and Repubs do this). This is one reason that conservatives don’t like all of this Washington spending, no matter who is doing it.

As an addendum, I was mowing lawns at a very early age and my kid brothers all had paper routes. It never occurred to us that we were being used or exploited; we liked the cash; and we all developed into men who have held responsible jobs for long periods of time; and all of us have had, from time to time, our own businesses as well.

Similarly, my mother began working around age 12 and never stopped; although I think she is going to retire from her own business this year (she is 86).

@Gary Kukis: #41
Your family should find it easier to support more of the UNFORTUNATE who aren’t working than the rest of us.

@Smorgasbord:

Your family should find it easier to support more of the UNFORTUNATE who aren’t working than the rest of us.

I am fully aware of the “helpless” and most of them–the large majority of them–are not helpless. They have learned how to manipulate government to get government to subsidize them or to pay their way. I have known at least 3 people collecting social security (one of them nearly $3000/month) while in their 30’s. I have known dozens of women who have gotten housing and food stamps and pretty much lead a life that is fairly carefree because they don’t have to worry about being moral, about having babies or not, or showing up to a job 40 hours a week. My guess is, you really have no clue as to how many people are out there sucking up tax dollars simply because they have learned how to do that.

47% of people pay no federal tax? This is ridiculous.

Millions of people on food stamps? This is ridiculous.

Millions of children on free and subsidized lunches, breakfasts and maybe dinners? Absolutely ridiculous. If a parent does not feed his own children, then those children need to be removed from their home. A parent who does not do that should not be allowed to have kids.

When it comes to the truly helpless, there may be 1-2% of our population, maybe. In many of those cases, family members, churches and gracious people help them out.

But the number of those absolutely destitute with nowhere to go but government? Probably not even 0.3% of the population.

The maximum SS monthly payment amount is $2,366.

For someone to get that amount in their 30s is really gaming the system. I would really like to know how they did that, because I am on the UNOS to get a healthy heart, and so I am on SS Disability. I can tell you my amount is nowhere near $2,366. That is why I have to work a part time job 6 days a week.

@anticsrocks: #44
I paid into SS all of my working life, and I only get $1,177 per month. Nothing against you, but SS was supposed to be ONLY for RETIREES, and only the ones who paid into it. It was in an interest bearing account, but politicians can’t stand to see a government account INCREASE and not be able to get their hands on it, so they put it in the general fund and used it to buy votes.

@Gary Kukis: #43
I was speaking sarcastically.

You reminded me of someone who saw my Tea Party sign on my way to a protest. He said, “There’s plenty of money for everybody.” Each time I said something, he kept repeating the same sentence. I finally figured out that he meant, “There’s plenty of money for everybody, so why should I have to work for it?” I finally told him something like, “They should have to work for their money,” turned, and went on to the protest where my kind of people were.

I don’t text, so I don’t know the shortcut lingo. Is there one for, “I am saying this sarcastically?”

I complement you on your POLITE rebuttal of my misunderstood remark. If it were a liberal, it would have been filled with hatred, cuss words, and all that other stuff liberals like to throw at us. I was kind of expecting that stuff the further I read your comment, but you were very civil all the way through. I don’t think you could become a liberal even if you wanted to.

@Smorgasbord: I was born with a defective heart, in fact my parents were told by my cardiologist that if I lived to be 15, they should consider themselves lucky.

Next summer, I will celebrate my 49th birthday.

I worked all my adult life. I got a job working for a farmer when I was 15 and from that point on, I held down at least one, sometimes two and for a short while, three jobs. In between all those jobs, I managed to have several open heart surgeries and also, (once I mended pretty well) worked as tour managers for some of classic rocks familiar names.

The reason I say all this is that until I turned 33 and had a very major, complicated heart surgery, I had never been on Social Security. Hell I never even thought about asking for it. Folks told me from time to time that I was disabled, I should quit work and collect my SS Disability check.

I didn’t want a check from the government, I wanted to work for what I had.

At last, my surgery I had when I was 33 kept me from being able to go back to work. So I worked part time and got my degree in Psycology.

At this point in my life, I still receive SS Disability, but I also work on their “ticket to work” program. I work six days a week for a local publisher. My hours are short, the pay is small, but it helps me fill the gaps that SS leaves.

I just had a thought. If SS is there to allow the Dems to purchase votes, then those gub’ment dollars are lost on me. I am a Conservative, but in my state I can only claim D or R. I choose R. Maybe in my own twisted way I’m sticking to ’em!!! LOL

@anticsrocks: #47
My mom was born with a heart problem. She didn’t need any surgery until her 80s, when she had a pacemaker put in. She was 92 when she died. I hope you pass her up.

All I was trying to say is that all of these programs are helping drain the Social Security program. If I could have put all of the money I paid into SS into an interest drawing account, I would have several million dollars there now. Galveston county Texas did something similar instead of SS, and the retirees that have been there long enough are getting more retired than they did working.

@Smorgasbord: Thanks for the kind words Smorgs. I understood what you were trying to say, and I agree. If our money was invested individually, then we would all be better off when the time came that we needed it.

Good to hear of your Mom’s longevity, and thanks for hoping I get that far as well. I was born with Tetralogy of Fallot, and began having corrective surgeries at the age of 3.

@anticsrocks: #49
Each time my mom had a medical procedure done, I would tell her she’s worth more now than she was before. With all of your operations, you must be worth a fortune!

@Smorgasbord: LOL, the pacemaker/defibrillator in my chest actually cost nearly as much as my house.