Largest attack on Norway since World War II

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The moral equivalence apologists (and Chris Matthews) for Islamic terrorism who have long cited Timothy McVeigh, Jared Loughner, abortion bombers, the Spanish Inquisition, Crusaders, Nazis as somehow examples of right-wing Christian fanaticism and hate-mongering have finally got an actual real example of it:

“What we know is that he is right wing and he is Christian fundamentalist,” deputy police chief Roger Andresen said Saturday morning at a televised news conference. “We have not been able to link him up to an anti-Islamic group.” He said that the suspect had not been arrested before, and that police were unsure if he had acted alone.

“We find him responsible for both of the attacks,” Andresen said. “At the moment we have no other people to arrest.”

Norwegian media identified the suspect as Anders Behring Breivik and posted pictures of the blond and blue-eyed Norwegian. A security official speaking on the condition of anonymity because the official was not allowed to release the name publicly said that the name was correct.

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He said that police were still trying to piece together the suspect’s motives.

“The politically motivated violence that Norway has seen in the modern age has come from the extreme rightist side,” Stoere said. “This is a phenomenon that we have addressed very seriously.”

So not all the facts are in, yet there’s no apparent rush to judgment here is there? I’m not questioning that the facts thus far are wrong here- just the double-standard in how whenever it is an Islamic extremist or homegrown terrorist involved, we are cautioned not to jump to conclusions.

For those who initially suspected Islamic terror and “Norway’s 9/11”, it sounds as though they weren’t alone: Jihadi forums also jumped at the thought of claiming attaboy responsibility, in glee:

But many residents of Oslo said the attacks would probably have a deep impact. For years, the most fortified building in town has been the U.S. Embassy — the subject of eye-rolling from those who thought the security measures were unnecessary.

“This is one of those events that will change everything,” Christopher Wright, 35, of Oslo said by telephone. He was at a bakery a thousand feet from the government buildings when the explosion happened.

Several analysts said a coordinated attack of such a caliber would have required sophistication and preparation.

Chatter on online jihadist forums praising the attacks started almost immediately afterward, terrorism analysts said, but claims of responsibility were soon retracted.

Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami praised the bombing. But instead of Norway’s 9/11, what we have is their version of an Oklahoma City Bombing.

Norway seems woefully ill-prepared to prevent and handle terror attacks:

A memo written in 2009, describes the country’s security service as “in over its head” and adds “it simply cannot keep up.”

Separate cables state that the country felt “immune” from terrorism and that groups such as Al Qaeda were “not a direct threat”.

One memo describes how US authorities had to “press” their Norwegian counterparts to take terrorism seriously and says there was a feeling “that terrorism happens elsewhere, not in peaceful Norway.”

Talking about an attempt by the Police Security Service (PST) to track one particular suspected Al Qaeda terror cell, a cable written by the US Ambassador to Norway, Barry White, describes investigators as “committed, competent and co-operative, generally”.

But he goes on to describe how they refused the help of the UK authorities to put surveillance on a potential suspect and adds: “Not only will they not put their own resources on him…but they also just turned down the visiting UK intel service’s offer of two twelve-person surveillance teams.”

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A memo written in 2008 shows how the US felt that Norway was not awake to the possibility of a potential terrorist attack. The cable reads: “We repeatedly press Norwegian authorities to take terrorism seriously.

“We will seek to build on this momentum to fight the still-prevalent feeling that terrorism happens elsewhere, not in peaceful Norway.”

And a cable written just last year adds: “The PST still viewed Denmark as more of a target than Norway, for reasons very specific to the cartoon controversy.”

While Islamists and jihadis are probably celebrating, what Christian right-wingers are out there, celebrating this senseless loss of life?

Prayers and condolences for Norway and the family of the victims of this horrible attack.

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There are reports of fake Anders Breivik facebook pages springing up like after the Jared Loughner shootings — political hit pieces attempting link the shooter to enemies of the Left.

As for this:

“What we know is that he is right wing and he is Christian fundamentalist,” deputy police chief Roger Andresen said Saturday morning at a televised news conference.

That is actually not established. I would suggest not taking the word of Norwegian goverment officials for anything at this time. The Scandinavian countries have a history of official suppression of politically incorrect facts.

We don’t know the story yet.

It’s strange to me how the supposed Facebook page popped up just prior to all of this happening. That page has now been yanked but you can find a pdf of it here.

It’s also strange to me that this guy posted all sorts of comments on forums across the Interwebz in Norwegian…yet, the supposed Facebook page was written entirely in English with American cultural and political references and only one thing written in Norwegian.

Oh, and those sponsored ads over on the right hand side of the page…those are tailored to the user’s interests and geographic location ie Norway…yet, they’re all ads for American stuff. Strange, eh?

And the dribbling of information that is coming out has the feel of careful crafting to it.

If you listen carefully, you can almost hear the narrative formation occurring.

@Aye:

don’t forget the apparent absence of friends…

Aye – posted shortly before, you say. Seriously?

Third picture from the bottom on that Facebook PDF… Breivik in Freemason attire? Conspiracy theorists will have a field day.

Here’s the same Facebook site, mirrored yesterday at a different location. Click on each page for an enlargement. Note that the Sponsored entries differ on these pages from those shown in the version linked in post #2. I think these probably display in rotation with each page refresh, like the ads here at FA, and are different assortments depending on where the viewing computer is located. It’s geographically targeted advertising and content, fine tuned by what’s on the Facebook page itself. In this case Breiviks identified his political orientation on his Facebook page as conservative. If you’re viewing the page from a computer in the USA, that automatically brings up Sponsored content that relates to the topic of US conservatism. If you’re viewing in Europe, you get an ad relating to European real estate. The post #2 screen capture was done in the US and caught some conservative content.

Well, at least there’s justice. /
Under Norwegian law he can be given 21 years for all of this!

I think that this is nothing at all like the Loughner case (Loughner being an obvious nut case, while Breivik is one of the true master political criminals of all time). Breivik planned this out years in advance; started a farm business to obtain fertilizer for explosives; joined a gun club to acquire weapons. He staged the mother of all diversions (the bombing of the political district in Oslo center), while proceeding to the annual gathering of an entire generation of political opponents (Norway being a very small country) and methodically eliminating the next generation of political opposition. And he wasn’t in it to be a martyr; he was willing to commit the crime and to do the time.

It was horrific, for sure, and there are all sorts of lessons (e.g. it’s dangerous to be isolated on an island where no one has a gun). But for pure, ruthless genius, this one takes the cake.

– Larry W/HB

You think a guy shooting a large number of unarmed people for no good reason is nothing at all like the Loughner case?

I could draw you a Venn diagram if you want.

@Wm T Sherman:

Yes, the Facebook page went up not long before yesterday’s events.

The postings are all from July 17th and 18th.

It already seems obvious that this is nothing at all like the Loughner case.

The parallel is with Oklahoma City. Both were carefully calculated acts of right wing political terrorism.

Loughner was a crazy man with a gun. What separates his story from the routine crazy man with a gun story is who he happened to fixate on as a target.

All we know for sure at this point is that Bleivik shot many young people on Utoya island.

We know little to nothing about him as a person. We have to keep in mind that Norway is a secular country with a far left (Labor = Socialist) government which has been complacent in the face of terrorism.

We have to suspend judgment until more facts are available, realizing that the government will spin the story so as to comport with its ideology. The government directly or indirectly controls most of the media and so more trust should be placed in facts elucidated by independent journalists or investigators.

#12

Yes, he methodically shot and killed at least 85 young people–all members of the Workers’ Youth League, attending a summer camp event sponsored by by Norway’s Labor Party, in addition to car bombing Oslo’s center of government. Bleivik was a youth and adult member (until 2006) of Norway’s conservative Fremskrittspartiet.

It’s hard not to suspect there was a political motivation.

I don’t care how he felt, if he felt his country was so wrong then he should have left if he felt it was beyond redemption.
A pitty they don’t have the death penalty.

Oh and commrade greg, McVeigh was an agnostic and a libertarian. That means social liberal, fiscal Conseravtive. Stop trying to score political points on the bodies of the the victims you dispicable bigot.

New info:
He attacked GW Bush for being a “Capitalist” and called “Christiandom” a genocidal belief that killed millions. Yeah, he’s such a Christian fundamentalist (roll eyes). He calls himself a nationalist and is against multi-culteralism/Islam.

Right wing extremism is a mental illness.

Not able to read wilson? PROVE he was right winger you left wing douche.

Recently surfaced documents; a video and a 1500 page manifesto alleged to have been released by Breivic just days before the Norway attack.