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budvarakbar
14 years ago
’nuff said
budvarakbar
14 years ago
expanding — “that’s all there is – there aint no more!!” clear as a very clear CHRISTIAN bell
The Chris Rock Show
14 years ago
BHO states in an ABC interview with Stephanaopholous: “My Muslim faith….. or my christian faith….”
Yeah right, my ass!
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its a duck.
There are more similarities of course, but Obama’s heritage is undeniable.
eaglewingz08
14 years ago
They are all authoritarians?
They all like to give endless speeches before state controlled media?
Patvann
14 years ago
There can not be any denial that he had a Moslem father, but insofar that HE is a Moslem, is a matter of semantics.
Yes, the doctrine of Islam states that if one is born of a Moslem father, then one is indeed a Moslem. It also states that if one leaves the faith after puberty, then one is a apostate, and the punishment (in all schools of Islam) is first a “request” to return, and if that fails, death…
So while Khadafi and others like to tweak the noses of the non-Moslem’s (primarily in the West) with talk of how Obama is a “brother”, they know damn well that he is Kafir.
-They say this to create division, and diversion, and I see that it is working.
Some (including Obama) claim he is a Christian. He is NOT.
He is of the recent creed (invented in 1969 by James Cone) known as: Black Liberation Theology. Trinity Church in Chicago is the biggest of these, and was the first. Rev Wright was among Cone’s first students. The primary “belief” of this racist bastard-religion is as follows:
“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the
goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white
people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of
black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community
… Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates
in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love
as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to
destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal.
Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his
love.”
This “belief” runs counter to ALL things Christian.
-But in all practice and practicality, Obama isn’t even really this either. He went there and stayed there for political reasons, and to gain influence in the power-structure that emanates from it. As we have all seen over the past year, once he left Wright, he has never sought out any other church in which to participate. There are BLT churches in the DC area, but the Obama family stays home on Sundays. It could be that they know that if they do go to a BLT church, guys like us would be all over it like stink on doo, but I have another theory…
Obama is his OWN religion.
His own preacher, his own flock, and mostly… His own god.
pdill
14 years ago
Excellent post PatVann! I’ve argued more than once on this board that Obama is neither a Moslem OR a Christian. You are the first that I know of on FA to ever agree.
In addition to his narcissim, what drives Obama is Marxism, which is more than obvious to anyone who has even a bit of knowledge of Catholicism and Latin America during the 60’s; the genesis of Liberation Theology. Black Liberation Theology is clearly “disguised Marxism.” It was the biggest “give away”, even before Obama was nominated, as to where this guy was going. The “red flag” couldn’t have been any brighter, yet most of America missed the clues, including many “Catholics.”
In looking for some stunning quotes I had remembered reading from Pope Benedict, I came upon this year old article over on American Thinker. This author has already done such a great job , I see no sense or purpose in trying to outdo her. For any interested, it will bring clarity to “what makes this man tick”, especially for those who still think that Barack Obama is either a Christian or a Moslem.
Considering yesterday’s “sellout of the Jews” by Obama, this article is even more prescient than when originally written. It’s info we should all take to heart; it’s not only true, but it makes connecting the dots a lot easier!
Here’s an excerpt:
The thing that really got me to thinking, reading and searching for answers was the church bookstore.
Having been a practicing Christian for more than 40 years now, and a practicing Catholic for 26 of those years, I have visited perhaps 100 various Christian bookstores, both Protestant and Catholic. In all of those places, one thing tied together the books for sale: Christianity.
Not so in Obama’s church bookstore.
I spent more than an hour perusing available books, and found as many claiming to represent Muslim thought as those representing Christian thought. Black Muslim thought, to be specific.
And the books claiming to support Christianity were surprisingly of a more political than religious nature. The books by James H. Cone, Wright’s own mentor, were prominent and numerous.
Now that I have read a number of the books that presumably Wright’s congregants (including Barrack Obama) have also read, I can only conclude that the thing tying these volumes together is not Christianity, nor any real religion, but the political philosophy of Karl Marx.
“The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.”
“Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.” (emphasis mine)
– Marx and Engels; The Communist Manifesto; 1848
If Marxism can be summed up in only a couple of phrases, now familiar to nearly every modern person, they would be “class struggle” and “oppressed vs. oppressors.”
James H. Cone, the unquestioned modern-day mentor of all the black power preachers, claims to have created a new theology, uniting the Muslim black power tenets of Malcolm X and the Christian foundations of Martin Luther King, Jr.
All he has really done, in my opinion, is take original liberation theology from Latin America, developed in the early 1960s by Catholic priests, and painted it black.
@Patvann: You’ll notice I never said he IS a Mulsim.
Whether he was or not is still an open questions. Especially since his stepfather, who registered his nationality as Indonesian, listed his religion as Islam on Indonesian school records:
I’m really interested in dragging all that up again. It suffices to say Obama has more than one thing in common with Ahmadinejhad and Kadaffi.
Thankyou, kind sir.
I’ve read her article, and I suppose I could quibble over her combining MLK, and Catholicism w/Cone’s BlackMarxism, but I can see her point with how Cone used elements of each.
I do recall reading some of the thoughts of the Church’s’ hierarchy from the 60’s pertaining to what the S. American priest’s were up to, and from what I gather, the Pontiff was not in total agreement, and in-fact kicked some of the more radical ones out.
@Mike I’m really interested in dragging all that up again.
Based on the body of your post, I’ll go ahead and assume the word “not” is missing.
I firmly belief he kisses Moslem butt too much, but he does that out of fear. He thinks Submission will spare him (he does not think of “us”)….He’s blind to history, and all of history has shown that it weakness emboldens them. If he can point me to a time that capitulation without conversion has staved off the hoard, then I’ll be on board. Until then I wish to kill enough of them to make THEM submit.
@Patvann: The omission of the word “not” must have been a freudian slip…. Or was it?
And let’s not forget that B. HUSSEIN Obama embraced his Muslim heritage in the Cairo speech.
Patvann
14 years ago
The omission of the word “not” must have been a freudian slip…. Or was it?
* He says…Inwardly grinning*
🙂
ObeyOne will “embrace” the back end of a dead sheep, while dressed in high heels and a tutu, if he thinks it will get him ONE more perceived increase in his delusional mind that he is loved, and wanted, even when he knows most of the time the adulation is faked.
He’s that kid in highschool that would do anything, as long as he became the main attention. For good or bad.
He utilized a tool in his toolbox, (sparse that it is) and the only thing Moslem about him, IS his name.
Hell, I know more about Islam than he does, and I was a Catholic Alterboy for 6 years.
@Patvann: ” the only thing Moslem about him, IS his name. “
That’s just not true… He admits freely to his Muslim heritage and attended a Madrassa. I didn’t say he was a practicing Muslim NOW… but was he as a child? Who knows? Do you?
Missy
14 years ago
How about money for buddies? Obama contributes funding to Qaddafi family charities, what’s a friend for?
Administration giving $400K to Qaddafi Family Foundations
The Obama administration has notified Congress of the State Department’s intention to contribute $400,000 to foundations run by Muammar Qaddafi’s two children — $200,000 each for daughter Aisha and son Saif. Saif, you may recall, is the son who escorted the Lockerbie terrorist Abdel Baset al-Megrahi home to a hero’s welcome in Libya after President Obama sternly “warned” Qaddafi that there was to be no hero’s welcome.
and….defunds pro democracy groups in Iran and ignores the plight of Iranian’s protesting a bogus election. No need for those pesky little people to get in the way of his pal Ahmadinejad.
I just haven’t figured out how we benefit from Obama’s good will to despots.
@Missy: Another good point Missy. You get extra credit!
glenn c
14 years ago
Who really gives a rats rearend about $400,000.00 for Khadafi’s kids! Our country has worse problems then that trivia. I worked for the world’s largest surveillance & counter-surveillance company in Ft. Lauderdale, Fl. (1990-1993)
My job was considered unclassified, because I had “NO” casework on “ANY”
file. I however, overheard conversations, since we weren’t forced to wear ear plugs.
We built the world’s most sophisticated audio/video products at that point in time. Truly “state of the art.” The company also taught USA law enforcement (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc.,) departments how to use the equipment properly.
In reality WE ARE ALL slaves to our government & big business. The money we use in the USA is made by the so called Federal Reserve System, “NOT” by our own government.
Twelve regional “privately-owned” (Privately? how nice!) Federal Reserve Banks. The current system is for those banks to buy our Gold & Silver in exchange for their Monopoly money. (Federal Reserve Bank) Look at the front of your dollar bill and take note of the PYRAMID with the eye on the top.
That is Big Brother watching. The use of a PYRAMID is an oxymoron, because our countries economy and monopoly money (mass produced!), has made our own government the biggest “PONZI” scheme, (also known as a PYRAMID scheme) operator in the world. To much of the supply of money = inflation (the hidden tax!) If Japan & China stops buying our (promises to pay back) Treasury paper, we will be bankrupt above and beyond our imagination.
’nuff said
expanding — “that’s all there is – there aint no more!!” clear as a very clear CHRISTIAN bell
BHO states in an ABC interview with Stephanaopholous: “My Muslim faith….. or my christian faith….”
Yeah right, my ass!
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its a duck.
They all hate Israel.
@Patvann: That’s true as well, but still off the mark of the one undeniable fact that unites the three.
All I have left, is overt Narcissism, so other than that, ya got me.
-If you’re going to say they are all Moslem. I won’t agree.
@Patvann: Close but that’s not it.
All three are a great threat to Our Nation, our way of life and are outrageous Liars
OK Mike.
We give. We now await with baited-breath and puckered butts.
@Patvann: All three had Muslim fathers.
There are more similarities of course, but Obama’s heritage is undeniable.
They are all authoritarians?
They all like to give endless speeches before state controlled media?
There can not be any denial that he had a Moslem father, but insofar that HE is a Moslem, is a matter of semantics.
Yes, the doctrine of Islam states that if one is born of a Moslem father, then one is indeed a Moslem. It also states that if one leaves the faith after puberty, then one is a apostate, and the punishment (in all schools of Islam) is first a “request” to return, and if that fails, death…
So while Khadafi and others like to tweak the noses of the non-Moslem’s (primarily in the West) with talk of how Obama is a “brother”, they know damn well that he is Kafir.
-They say this to create division, and diversion, and I see that it is working.
Some (including Obama) claim he is a Christian. He is NOT.
He is of the recent creed (invented in 1969 by James Cone) known as: Black Liberation Theology. Trinity Church in Chicago is the biggest of these, and was the first. Rev Wright was among Cone’s first students. The primary “belief” of this racist bastard-religion is as follows:
“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the
goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white
people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of
black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community
… Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates
in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love
as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to
destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal.
Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his
love.”
This “belief” runs counter to ALL things Christian.
-But in all practice and practicality, Obama isn’t even really this either. He went there and stayed there for political reasons, and to gain influence in the power-structure that emanates from it. As we have all seen over the past year, once he left Wright, he has never sought out any other church in which to participate. There are BLT churches in the DC area, but the Obama family stays home on Sundays. It could be that they know that if they do go to a BLT church, guys like us would be all over it like stink on doo, but I have another theory…
Obama is his OWN religion.
His own preacher, his own flock, and mostly… His own god.
Excellent post PatVann! I’ve argued more than once on this board that Obama is neither a Moslem OR a Christian. You are the first that I know of on FA to ever agree.
In addition to his narcissim, what drives Obama is Marxism, which is more than obvious to anyone who has even a bit of knowledge of Catholicism and Latin America during the 60’s; the genesis of Liberation Theology. Black Liberation Theology is clearly “disguised Marxism.” It was the biggest “give away”, even before Obama was nominated, as to where this guy was going. The “red flag” couldn’t have been any brighter, yet most of America missed the clues, including many “Catholics.”
In looking for some stunning quotes I had remembered reading from Pope Benedict, I came upon this year old article over on American Thinker. This author has already done such a great job , I see no sense or purpose in trying to outdo her. For any interested, it will bring clarity to “what makes this man tick”, especially for those who still think that Barack Obama is either a Christian or a Moslem.
Considering yesterday’s “sellout of the Jews” by Obama, this article is even more prescient than when originally written. It’s info we should all take to heart; it’s not only true, but it makes connecting the dots a lot easier!
Here’s an excerpt:
@Patvann: You’ll notice I never said he IS a Mulsim.
Whether he was or not is still an open questions. Especially since his stepfather, who registered his nationality as Indonesian, listed his religion as Islam on Indonesian school records:
I’m really interested in dragging all that up again. It suffices to say Obama has more than one thing in common with Ahmadinejhad and Kadaffi.
And yes, he is his own religion.
@PDill
Thankyou, kind sir.
I’ve read her article, and I suppose I could quibble over her combining MLK, and Catholicism w/Cone’s BlackMarxism, but I can see her point with how Cone used elements of each.
I do recall reading some of the thoughts of the Church’s’ hierarchy from the 60’s pertaining to what the S. American priest’s were up to, and from what I gather, the Pontiff was not in total agreement, and in-fact kicked some of the more radical ones out.
@Mike
I’m really interested in dragging all that up again.
Based on the body of your post, I’ll go ahead and assume the word “not” is missing.
I firmly belief he kisses Moslem butt too much, but he does that out of fear. He thinks Submission will spare him (he does not think of “us”)….He’s blind to history, and all of history has shown that it weakness emboldens them. If he can point me to a time that capitulation without conversion has staved off the hoard, then I’ll be on board. Until then I wish to kill enough of them to make THEM submit.
@Patvann: The omission of the word “not” must have been a freudian slip…. Or was it?
And let’s not forget that B. HUSSEIN Obama embraced his Muslim heritage in the Cairo speech.
* He says…Inwardly grinning*
🙂
ObeyOne will “embrace” the back end of a dead sheep, while dressed in high heels and a tutu, if he thinks it will get him ONE more perceived increase in his delusional mind that he is loved, and wanted, even when he knows most of the time the adulation is faked.
He’s that kid in highschool that would do anything, as long as he became the main attention. For good or bad.
He utilized a tool in his toolbox, (sparse that it is) and the only thing Moslem about him, IS his name.
Hell, I know more about Islam than he does, and I was a Catholic Alterboy for 6 years.
(Insert Alterboy joke here)
(ok forget the word “insert”)
(..I meant “place” or “put”)
(SAY!! Yeah, I meant; say!)
(Say the Alterboy joke here.)
@Patvann: ” the only thing Moslem about him, IS his name. “
That’s just not true… He admits freely to his Muslim heritage and attended a Madrassa. I didn’t say he was a practicing Muslim NOW… but was he as a child? Who knows? Do you?
How about money for buddies? Obama contributes funding to Qaddafi family charities, what’s a friend for?
Administration giving $400K to Qaddafi Family Foundations
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/administration_giving_400k_to.html
and….defunds pro democracy groups in Iran and ignores the plight of Iranian’s protesting a bogus election. No need for those pesky little people to get in the way of his pal Ahmadinejad.
I just haven’t figured out how we benefit from Obama’s good will to despots.
@Missy: Another good point Missy. You get extra credit!
Who really gives a rats rearend about $400,000.00 for Khadafi’s kids! Our country has worse problems then that trivia. I worked for the world’s largest surveillance & counter-surveillance company in Ft. Lauderdale, Fl. (1990-1993)
My job was considered unclassified, because I had “NO” casework on “ANY”
file. I however, overheard conversations, since we weren’t forced to wear ear plugs.
We built the world’s most sophisticated audio/video products at that point in time. Truly “state of the art.” The company also taught USA law enforcement (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc.,) departments how to use the equipment properly.
In reality WE ARE ALL slaves to our government & big business. The money we use in the USA is made by the so called Federal Reserve System, “NOT” by our own government.
Twelve regional “privately-owned” (Privately? how nice!) Federal Reserve Banks. The current system is for those banks to buy our Gold & Silver in exchange for their Monopoly money. (Federal Reserve Bank) Look at the front of your dollar bill and take note of the PYRAMID with the eye on the top.
That is Big Brother watching. The use of a PYRAMID is an oxymoron, because our countries economy and monopoly money (mass produced!), has made our own government the biggest “PONZI” scheme, (also known as a PYRAMID scheme) operator in the world. To much of the supply of money = inflation (the hidden tax!) If Japan & China stops buying our (promises to pay back) Treasury paper, we will be bankrupt above and beyond our imagination.