This guy make issue out of essentially non issues. He should ‘shut up.’
liberaldude
16 years ago
Net neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with political speech and everything to do with the control that a select group of corporate interests has in controlling our information.
Another example of how the leaders of the right get their minions all riled up with fear so they can ultimately vote against their best interests.
Net neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with political speech and everything to do with the control that a select group of corporate interests has in controlling our information.
libdud,
I find it more than a bit amusing that you are incapable of an original thought on this and have to resort to copying/pasting (plagiarizing/STEALING) the words of others from the YouTube comments:
I’m glad Missy recommended this video. What Klavan warns about must be true otherwise liberaldud wouldn’t be copying and pasting so much.
firefirefire
16 years ago
Thank You Mr. Klavan.
There IS (real)hope for America yet.
Hard Right
16 years ago
Liberal tolerance rears it’s head yet again.
Timothy
16 years ago
LiberalDude,
We have a enough “Pavlovian dogs” on this planet…the kennels are full.
Fascinating that he brings up points for discussion and your response is “shut up”. Quite insightful of you.
ruaqtpi2
16 years ago
liberaldude said:
“Net neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with political speech and everything to do with the control that a select group of corporate interests has in controlling our information.
Another example of how the leaders of the right get their minions all riled up with fear so they can ultimately vote against their best interests.”
First of all, “net neutrality” is a broad topic, but one of its primary arguments is against requiring ISPs (Internet Service Providers – the companies whose hardware devices and/or software services allow access to the Internet) to prevent the electronic transfer of illegal content (child pornography, copies of copyrighted materials, etc.) It is likened to requiring tollway operators to prevent shipments of contraband or otherwise illegal cargo via the highways they manage. The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) is especially fond of getting laws passed t=that require ISPs to “police” the Iinternet and prevent the illegal transfer of copyrighted musical performances. The RIAA hates having to track down and sue music “pirates,” so this why they back laws against net neutrality.
Of course, the RIAA is not the only agency concerned about the Internet beng used as a conduit for the movement/transfer of illegal materials, nor are all the arguments against net neutrality related to copyrighted materials. Proponents of net neutrality argue that any Internet censoring activities place unnecessary restrictions on free speech AND place excessive burdens of content monitoring, reporting, and/or censorship on ISPs or other providers of hardware, software, or services for the Internet.
Secondly, you act as if the political “right” are the only people who use scare tactics and fear mongering to get people all riled up. How quickly you “seem to” forget Obama’s shift from Hope and Change to Gloom and Doom to push his porkulus, er, I mean stimulus package. You also “forgot” recent class warfare by the Dems, global warming and then climate change by the liberal activists, … do I *really* need to continue? I didn’t think so.
Jeff V
Jeff V
ruaqtpi2
16 years ago
What gives? I even tried (stuffed) animal sacrifice to the Spam Gods, but they still arena appeased!! The $&@*#$&% spam filter ate my post again!!
barneyfife, whatever you do, don’t drink the offering to Jobu!!!!
mooseburger
16 years ago
I don’t know when Andrew Klavin of Pajamas posted this video, but it sounds very much just like a Rush Limbaugh rant I heard from him last year. If I recall correctly, it was about all the fuss over the Phoney Soldiers comment.
We all know that when Rush speaks, the Republicans fall in line and do the Ditto.
Mr. Klavin has little to fear, both sides are trying to get the other to shut up, and even though Limbaugh got Conservatives to do it, in general, nobody is really going to shut up at all.
Klavin accurately pointed to several examples of years worth of accusations the left has used to silence conservative voice.
Using Limbaugh’s quote to support your idea that all conservatives are lockstep in thought following his every command is utter nonsense. You see, we can listen to him, agree or disagree yet still learn and be entertained in the process. Facts are on his side for the most part, his opinion of the facts is where conservatives will and do differ from him from time to time. He knows that, we know that, apparently you don’t. He didn’t want to hear it or deal with it anymore, and he did not assign an inflammatory name to those callers with opposing opinions.
Remember Dubai Ports? Limbaugh and Hannity had opposing views, oh, what to do, what to do?
BTW, the same thing happened in here regarding Jindal, we are still here commenting even though our views of that speech were not the same. Curt, Mata, Mike, Scott, Word, Skye, Aye, none of them called anyone who disagreed a “racist”(see video).
mooseburger
16 years ago
Well Missy, I admit I listen to Limbaugh too, not everyday, but pretty often. He is entertaining, Most Liberals hate him and get upset hearing him, I look at him as a Carnival Barker who has just enough good points to make to be somewhat redeeming. He’s a media figure, not a political leader.
Sometimes I wonder about some of his over the top rants in the past, and all the Oxycontin that was floating thru his brain, and think, well, that explains that.
My point about the Jindal speech and Rush was and is that not one prominent Republican leader said a bad word about Jindal after Rush laid the law down. Even Fox News stopped covering the story. The truth is that no Republican from a district where Rush is popular can afford to have Rush tearing him down on air, and his loyal band of Ditto Heads emailing and calling said Republicans office in anger. This could cause a primary challenge, and these politicians, Rep or Dem, ain’t stupid. Rush knows how and has the power to get them to Shut Up, and get back in line.
They end up telling Rush they are sorry, and Rush has made many a Republican who speaks his mind and strays from the Conservative fold do exactly that. I still maintain that Rush can and does get folks to Shut Up.
Thanks for giving me the heads up on your all discussions about the Jindal speech, and I respect the fact that you all have different views here. For all the talk about Liberal Sock Puppets, and the AM radio Republican party marching in lock step with their respective leaders, it gives a guy some, dare I say….hope? lol
This guy make issue out of essentially non issues. He should ‘shut up.’
Net neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with political speech and everything to do with the control that a select group of corporate interests has in controlling our information.
Another example of how the leaders of the right get their minions all riled up with fear so they can ultimately vote against their best interests.
Right on cue, the Poster Child for the Leftist point of view arrives.
@Aye Chihuahua:
Proving Klavin’s point.
@liberaldude:
libdud,
I find it more than a bit amusing that you are incapable of an original thought on this and have to resort to copying/pasting (plagiarizing/STEALING) the words of others from the YouTube comments:
As I said earlier:
Poster. Child.
Heh.
I’m glad Missy recommended this video. What Klavan warns about must be true otherwise liberaldud wouldn’t be copying and pasting so much.
Thank You Mr. Klavan.
There IS (real)hope for America yet.
Liberal tolerance rears it’s head yet again.
LiberalDude,
We have a enough “Pavlovian dogs” on this planet…the kennels are full.
Fascinating that he brings up points for discussion and your response is “shut up”. Quite insightful of you.
liberaldude said:
“Net neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with political speech and everything to do with the control that a select group of corporate interests has in controlling our information.
Another example of how the leaders of the right get their minions all riled up with fear so they can ultimately vote against their best interests.”
First of all, “net neutrality” is a broad topic, but one of its primary arguments is against requiring ISPs (Internet Service Providers – the companies whose hardware devices and/or software services allow access to the Internet) to prevent the electronic transfer of illegal content (child pornography, copies of copyrighted materials, etc.) It is likened to requiring tollway operators to prevent shipments of contraband or otherwise illegal cargo via the highways they manage. The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) is especially fond of getting laws passed t=that require ISPs to “police” the Iinternet and prevent the illegal transfer of copyrighted musical performances. The RIAA hates having to track down and sue music “pirates,” so this why they back laws against net neutrality.
Of course, the RIAA is not the only agency concerned about the Internet beng used as a conduit for the movement/transfer of illegal materials, nor are all the arguments against net neutrality related to copyrighted materials. Proponents of net neutrality argue that any Internet censoring activities place unnecessary restrictions on free speech AND place excessive burdens of content monitoring, reporting, and/or censorship on ISPs or other providers of hardware, software, or services for the Internet.
Secondly, you act as if the political “right” are the only people who use scare tactics and fear mongering to get people all riled up. How quickly you “seem to” forget Obama’s shift from Hope and Change to Gloom and Doom to push his porkulus, er, I mean stimulus package. You also “forgot” recent class warfare by the Dems, global warming and then climate change by the liberal activists, … do I *really* need to continue? I didn’t think so.
Jeff V
Jeff V
What gives? I even tried (stuffed) animal sacrifice to the Spam Gods, but they still arena appeased!! The $&@*#$&% spam filter ate my post again!!
(sniff, sniff)
Jeff V
never mind – (groan)
Jeff,
Are you still missing a post?
I pulled out the one from 10:26 earlier, but I don’t see anything else there from you.
Jeff, trying to fool the spam gods only angers them-as you have learned.
A bucket of fried chicken doesn’t work either (don’t ask how I know).
@ Hard Right:
From watching Major League. Jobu was not amused!
liberaldude:
SHUT UP!
barneyfife, whatever you do, don’t drink the offering to Jobu!!!!
I don’t know when Andrew Klavin of Pajamas posted this video, but it sounds very much just like a Rush Limbaugh rant I heard from him last year. If I recall correctly, it was about all the fuss over the Phoney Soldiers comment.
We all know that when Rush speaks, the Republicans fall in line and do the Ditto.
He said this after the widely panned Jindal speech: “those of you who think Jindal was horrible, you think — in fact, I don’t ever want to hear from you ever again.”
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/02/good-for-rush-limbaugh-lashes-out-at.html
Basically….shut up
And they did too, the conservatives anyway.
Mr. Klavin has little to fear, both sides are trying to get the other to shut up, and even though Limbaugh got Conservatives to do it, in general, nobody is really going to shut up at all.
@mooseburger:
Klavin accurately pointed to several examples of years worth of accusations the left has used to silence conservative voice.
Using Limbaugh’s quote to support your idea that all conservatives are lockstep in thought following his every command is utter nonsense. You see, we can listen to him, agree or disagree yet still learn and be entertained in the process. Facts are on his side for the most part, his opinion of the facts is where conservatives will and do differ from him from time to time. He knows that, we know that, apparently you don’t. He didn’t want to hear it or deal with it anymore, and he did not assign an inflammatory name to those callers with opposing opinions.
Remember Dubai Ports? Limbaugh and Hannity had opposing views, oh, what to do, what to do?
BTW, the same thing happened in here regarding Jindal, we are still here commenting even though our views of that speech were not the same. Curt, Mata, Mike, Scott, Word, Skye, Aye, none of them called anyone who disagreed a “racist”(see video).
Well Missy, I admit I listen to Limbaugh too, not everyday, but pretty often. He is entertaining, Most Liberals hate him and get upset hearing him, I look at him as a Carnival Barker who has just enough good points to make to be somewhat redeeming. He’s a media figure, not a political leader.
Sometimes I wonder about some of his over the top rants in the past, and all the Oxycontin that was floating thru his brain, and think, well, that explains that.
My point about the Jindal speech and Rush was and is that not one prominent Republican leader said a bad word about Jindal after Rush laid the law down. Even Fox News stopped covering the story. The truth is that no Republican from a district where Rush is popular can afford to have Rush tearing him down on air, and his loyal band of Ditto Heads emailing and calling said Republicans office in anger. This could cause a primary challenge, and these politicians, Rep or Dem, ain’t stupid. Rush knows how and has the power to get them to Shut Up, and get back in line.
They end up telling Rush they are sorry, and Rush has made many a Republican who speaks his mind and strays from the Conservative fold do exactly that. I still maintain that Rush can and does get folks to Shut Up.
Thanks for giving me the heads up on your all discussions about the Jindal speech, and I respect the fact that you all have different views here. For all the talk about Liberal Sock Puppets, and the AM radio Republican party marching in lock step with their respective leaders, it gives a guy some, dare I say….hope? lol