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Senator Judd Gregg released this statement today:

Sen. Gregg stated, “I want to thank the President for nominating me to serve in his Cabinet as Secretary of Commerce. This was a great honor, and I had felt that I could bring some views and ideas that would assist him in governing during this difficult time. I especially admire his willingness to reach across the aisle.

“However, it has become apparent during this process that this will not work for me as I have found that on issues such as the stimulus package and the Census there are irresolvable conflicts for me. Prior to accepting this post, we had discussed these and other potential differences, but unfortunately we did not adequately focus on these concerns. We are functioning from a different set of views on many critical items of policy.

“Obviously the President requires a team that is fully supportive of all his initiatives.

Heh, obviously Obama needs a team that  – A: doesn’t cheat on their income taxes –  B: will not question any bloviation from The One.  Good luck finding a Dem for the job…

Dan Spencer,Right Side Politics Examiner, sums up the Senator’s rejection of BO:

“Blame Obama’s removing control of the census to the White House and President Obama’s bailout boondoggle…. Senator Gregg, a man of honor. Obama’s presidency is starting to look like an amateur hour.”

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The ZERO is a Fascist, just like FDR.

Now, that right there ladies and gentlemen is a person with personal principles, convictions, and integrity.

Party First!

Give it a rest nit wit!

Thank GOD for Judd Gregg. At least there is one GOP member of Congress in the Northeasty who puts COUNTRY before personal and political popularity.

I never understood why someone of Judd Gregg’s stature would want to be associated with this criminal Obama junta.

I’m glad he was able to get out before his reputation suffered.

If he had “personal principles, convictions, and integrity” he would have stuck with his decision, and then once in office stuck with “personal principles, convictions, and integrity” while serving. That’s the purpose of having a team of rivals. His voice would have been much stronger coming from the inside the cabinet rather than just joining in with the herd.

The other half of the team of rivals became miffed because the rival chose to not vote in the pork fest, questioning his loyalty to the team of rivals. So much for ‘personal principles, convictions, and integrity” from team Obama.

They are supposed to be miffed. That’s the point.

Okay… this may hurt, but I’m tending to lean toward Fit, here. Ouch!!!! dodging bullets now… LOL

I’m not sure of the entire story behind Gregg. But there is one thing I am sure of. The Constitution and subsequential Congressional law states beyond all question that the appointed task of the every 10 year census falls under the jurisdiction of the Commerce Dept. And until Obama’s Dem held Congress changes that law to allow the census to come under control of the Administrative branch (god forbid…), his attempted seizure of this control is out of bounds.

But like every law that is broken in the US, it has to become before a court. Where is where Fit’s argument comes into play.

If Gregg wanted to actually be of aid in his protest, he should have taken the job, and helped expose the seizure of power by the administrative branch that was out of their jurisdiction.

Therefore, I hold some with Fit, and some with Mark Levin…. Gregg is no hero. He’s merely dodging bullets when he could have helped more by accepting the job and demanding it be performed as per law. Instead, he decided to distance himself.

What a hero….

As for Levin.. he notes the difference between his verbal press conference and written statement. In the press conference, he distances himself from the legal quagmire of commerce vs adminstrative control. In his written statement, he notes that the stimulus AND the commerce jurisdiction issue are irreconcilable.

He had the power to do something. He chose to back down. Even in his statement. He did not make it clear that the power grab was an issue. Probably to keep political clout for the future.

So here’s my personal performance score:

One point on adhering to personal ethics.

Minus 10 points on assisting the nation by correcting a major flaw. Because the next guy coming up may not cooperate with legal and Constitutional abuses that he does not (or refuses to) recognize, Gregg has lost a great opportunity to right a serious attempted wrong.

Final pronouncement? Ethical coward. Go be a good businessman somewhere and stay out of politics in the future. Worthless….

I dunno if his appointment would have borne any fruit, Mata.

It is like being appointed to Hitler’s cabinet of advisers. Imagine anyone of them questioning the moral efficacy of the “Final Solution”. It would have been an exercise in futility by Senator Gregg.

I’m calling Godwin’s Law on myself.

Politically, he had cover to criticize anything he didn’t like, especially if it was done tactfully and as long as showed proper deference to the President’s final decision.

He would become the GOP whipping boy in the Cabinet, regardless of how much deference he publicly showed to The One.

gregg never should ahve accepted in the first place, it is like reverse affirmative action, woo hoo bring in the token republican and take away his one official duty. get real. this was all a play to get them to give gregg seat in the senate to a dem, we know it.

@MataHarley:

Okay… this may hurt, but I’m tending to lean toward Fit, here. Ouch!!!! dodging bullets now… LOL

Blinks twice.

Rubs eyes.

Wha?

Did I inhale too many fumes from the chainsaw this afternoon?

This just can’t be true.

It can’t be. Not Mata.

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Had Gregg stayed at Commerce he could indeed have stood his ground.

Then BO would have asked for his resignation or fired him. (Members of the Cabinet are subject to termination by the Pres right?)

End of protest.

Media reports that this horrible, evil, wascully, Republican infiltrated the Cabinet, the inner sanctimonious. Then when the moment was politically ripe he revolted against The One, biting the hand that appointed him.

Dems +87 Reps -793

Gregg then returns to civilian life as a soiled former politician.

OR

Gregg could stand down from his nomination to Commerce based on principles, ethics, and values, returning to the Senate where only the voters have the power and authority to fire him.

He chose the latter.

Wouldn’t it be a great thing if Gregg’s sudden discovery of spinal steel spread through the Senate?

I know, I’m dreaming.

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Now, don’t go agreeing with Fit any more or you’ll find yourself in the corner young lady.

@MataHarley:

“He had the power to do something. He chose to back down.”

You’re kidding, right? A Republican with any power at all within an Obama Administration? Please. He would have had no power whatsoever. He realized that and that is why he refused the nomination. Obama simply tagged him for two reasons (1) To appear “bi-partisan” and (2) to try to get rid of a GOP Senator. Sure they stated they would have appointed another GOP Senator to take his place, but I would bet whoever they chose would have been approved by B.O. first, to make sure the replacement went along with B.O.’s wishes.

I think you’re much too trusting, Mata and overestimate any kind of “power” any Republicans have within this Administration. B.O. and the entire Democrat party are working to make sure the GOP has no power now and for a long, long time into the future.

Can we now call the DNC the new BORG?

My my… got some attention here, eh?

First, the lovely and charismatic Skye

I dunno if his appointment would have borne any fruit, Mata.

It is like being appointed to Hitler’s cabinet of advisers.

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He would become the GOP whipping boy in the Cabinet, regardless of how much deference he publicly showed to The One.

For part one of your comment… “borne any fruit”… well, we’ll never know now, right? But what I can say is we are not part of Hilter’s regime yet. Even under Obama.

As Aye#13 pointed out, he serves at the pleasure of the POTUS. However, prior to the POTUS dismissing him, there is no reason why he could not have drawn public… and legal… attention to the letter of the law regarding census and Commerce vs Exec Branch illegalities. Sometimes one must put themselves in the line of fire to correct a wrong. Most of us know it as “civil disobedience”.

Luva #12: INRE never accepting. Hard to believe for me that Gregg never knew of Obama’s intents via all the conversations he says they all had. Personally, I think he backed down because he can’t take the political heat that has been appearing. Another demerit added to those I have already given him.

Aye#13: Yes… you’re dreaming. The Senate is a group of “yes men/women” that protect their jobs, not the law.

You, of all people, should know of what I speak. So let’s revise your analysis.

The fly in your analytical ointment is that you quit too soon in your analysis. As I mentioned above, of course Gregg would serve at the pleasure of the POTUS. Yes, he could get fired…

That, however, does not mean that, while still serving (and during the very public firing), he does not have the power to bring public… and *legal* (the *most* important) eyes on to executive branch indiscretions INRE the census.

You all must remember something about the US balance of powers. The oversight to executive and legislative branch is the judicial branch. Nothing can come to the judicial branch until you file a lawsuit and bring it up the chain of command, or events, so to speak.

And most importantly, not just anyone can file a lawsuit. Witness Berg and his lack of standing. You must be “wronged” to bring a lawsuit in most cases.

And what could be more “wronged” than a guy who is fired from an appointed job when he adheres to Constitutional and legislation law???

ah hem….

S where are we now? Gregg backed down. He cannot be “wronged” because he refused the job. Obama will now appoint a “yes man” to replace him who will not question… nor fight… the illegalities of the census falling under the executive branch oversight.

It takes a brave individual to act the part in order to get a court lawsuit going. Gregg is obviously not that person. I personally know bikers who ride around without a helmet specifically to get ticketed to go to court and fight the specifics of a law.

Make no mind. To verbally protest is one thing. To get “grounds” on which to base a lawsuit is another. Gregg gave up the opportunity to do that on behalf of the party… but most importantly the nation. Instead, he decided to let it go, allowing Obama to appoint another who will not question the executive branch and the law.

Thank you very much…. NOT!

The saddest thing is that Gregg recognized the illegality of it all, had a chance to do something about it… and passed for personal inconvenience or whatever.

I repeat…. a coward. Good riddance.

And Michael #? I’d say know you know why I suggest he should have taken the job. I am not in the least trusting. What I am is *demanding*! I demand that a public official take a job, then combat with the Constitutional tools to make sure that the job is being carried out according to the law.

@MataHarley:

I see what you’re saying regarding possible involvement of the judicial branch, however the public aspect of it would be handled as I stated in post 13.

Any involvement with the courts would be a long, arduous, drawn out process during which a Plaintiff would have to dodge the minefield of legislating jurists in order to find a fair hearing.

During that process, the Census cog in the master plan machine continues to turn in the desired, contrived direction.

Looks like we may get to see some legal action anyway.

The willfully neglectful, adoring media spin machine combined with the Chicago thug political practices would have started up the grinders within minutes of Gregg’s revolt and subsequent firing. What emerged from the other side (and then splashed onto TV screens and front pages) would not have been in any way comparable to the truth.

How many times have we seen that happen?

I’m thinking that Gregg stepped into the Dark Side and, having taken a look around, he recoiled in horror at what he saw going on, and perhaps upcoming.

Rightly or wrongly, he then hit the abort button.

I haven’t confirmed the time line but I’m thinking that he was nominated prior to the Census plans being announced….not that it matters really

What I am hoping will happen now is that Gregg will make the rounds on Capital Hill applying whatever sway and influence he may have over the three RINOs in particular and sensible Dims in general.

We’ll see.

If we had an honest and inquisitive media then it would be effective for Gregg to make the media rounds as well. IF.

Gregg, as an Obama appointee, has a certain measure of unique clout now.

Perhaps he can exhibit enough influence to at least force the Spendulous back into discuss and debate mode.

Will this be just another bump in the road on the way to our ultimate destination with BO?

Or will this possibly be a pivotal moment, a shot across the bow, and possibly an important chink in the armor?

Again, we’ll see.

Aye… glad to see you’ve recovered from your “blinking”…. LOL

UPDATE: I see you’ve caught on to the lawsuit bit, eh?

INRE

I’m thinking that Gregg stepped into the Dark Side and, having taken a look around, he recoiled in horror at what he saw going on, and perhaps upcoming.

Rightly or wrongly, he then hit the abort button.

I think you give him too much credit. Even Levin noticed today that his written statement noted that the stimulus AND the census situation were the major issues that were “irresolvable”.

“It has become apparent during this process that this will not work for me as I have found that on issues such as the stimulus package and the Census, there are irresolvable conflicts for me,” Mr. Gregg said in a statement. “Prior to accepting this post, we had discussed these and other potential differences, but unfortunately we did not adequately focus on these concerns. We are functioning from a different set of views on many critical items of policy.”

Let’s examine his press conference statement? BTW, the “embedding” from the YouTube is “disabled by request”…. Really? “Request” by whom??

Anyway, here’s the link to his public statement on video which addresses that he doesn’t feel, as a fiscal conservative, that this would be a “good fit”. Was there ever a moment that a sane person wouldn’t know that Obama was a big spender from his campaign promises alone? Where was this guy during the primaries and election… on Mars???

INRE the more important legality of the census, and under who’s oversight it would fall.. i.e. the Commerce Dept via Constitution and law, or the Exec office via idiots… he had this to say

Gregg said that his decision to withdraw was a question of “being me … being a fiscal conservative.” He said that the census issue was “only a slight catalyzing issue.”

Well ain’t that different than the ” irresolvable conflict” as he described in his statement???

In the meantime, the GOP is already planning a lawsuit if the Obama admin doesn’t retract it’s intent to relocate the census oversight illegally.

House Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence, R-Ind., also called on Obama to withdraw his nominee to head the Commerce Department, Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, if Obama didn’t have the confidence in him to lead the Census Bureau. Gregg has been a long time opponent of increased funding to the bureau.

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If the president doesn’t acquiesce to our letter, then we will seek the courts,” said Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., a ranking member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said at a news conference Thursday.

“Ultimately I don’t think there’s any question among federal courts about whether or not this is a personal power of the presidency or whether or not executive privilege would be waived if he started doing functions like this,” Issa said.

A spokesman for Issa told FOXNews.com that the lawmaker wouldn’t initiate a lawsuit but would lend his support to any individual or group that did.

Issa, the lawmaker, has no standing to initiate a lawsuit… Gregg, on the other hand, would have.

Uh huh… so the GOP calls Obama on his illegality. Calls on him to withdraw his “nominee”, Gregg if he “didn’t have the confidence in him to lead the Census Bureau”.

So is Gregg backing out on the opportunity to expose the Obama admin for it’s legality? Or is he just saving the Obama admin “face” and legal challenge at this moment by backing out willingly?

Either way… coward. Big demerits in my book, and no hero. The only way he will redeem himself is if he testifies in a court of law that the Exec office negotiated to wrest control of the census against current law. Maybe he will… and at that time (and *only* at that time) will I issue a reversal of my personal assessment of Gregg.

Sorry, gang. Until I get better info, this is a self serving act that is most certainly not patriotic or “principled” in any way. It’s just another political show. Brace yourself… we have alot of these coming our way.

So you say you need better info, but accuse him of cowardice? I see a contradiction there.
I also must disagree with you. It was clear he would have little to no power and be little more than a fall guy. I would hardly call his refusal to be used by obama to obama’s advantage a selfish act.

Your call, HR. Disagree all you want. The GOP is really running short of heros, and if this is what you want to grasp at… feel free.

I’m a little more discerning in my choices. And if you’re going to hang your hopes on this guy as one of the “principled” ones… then hang on to your hat. Thin hero at best… His major claim to fame is to be an “embarrassment” to the Obama admin. Oh my….

And no, I didn’t say I needed better info for my cowardice call. I need better info if I’m to change my opinion on him being a principled conservative.

The Constitution doesn’t put it under the jurisdiction of the Commerce Dept. It specifies that it will be done “in such Manner as they [congress] shall by Law direct”. The last major direction of Congress was U.S. Code Title 13,141. which specifically directs the Secretary of Commerce about when and how to do the census beginning in 1980.

As current law stands, the President does not have the power to move the census from under the jurisdiction of the commerce dept. to a cabinet level position. However, does anyone think that this current congress would deny him that request? One vote is all it would take, a new law would be passed, and power is shifted. There won’t be any lawsuits, no court involvement.

Gregg knew this, and knew that it was going to happen. By refusing the nomination, and allowing someone else to be appointed, someone who wouldn’t be under fire from minority groups, he has actually made it more difficult for Obama to accomplish the shift because he has denied him some of the political leverage necessary to push it through. He’ll still do it, but it will cost him more favors to get it done without the support of minorities who specifically had problems with Gregg.

I think Gregg did the right thing in the end, though I think he was a fool to seriously consider the appointment in the first place. Obama was going to strip him of his authority, and then use him as a fall guy when commerce in our country came crashing down. Who better to blame for the destruction of capitalism in our society than the token republican in the cabinet who is responsible for protecting it?

Congress should task the CBO with the census. It is congress’s responsibility after all, and the CBO is the closest thing to a non-partisan organization anywhere in Washington (though how non-partisan they are is debatable).

Wisdom, as I stated explicitly in my comment #8:

The Constitution and subsequential Congressional law states beyond all question that the appointed task of the every 10 year census falls under the jurisdiction of the Commerce Dept.

Constitution says it will be held every 10 years, and administered as per Congressional law. Current law has it as part of the Commerce Dept.

Obama cannot change that law… only Congress can. Where did you think it was only a Constitutional requirement?

And what makes you think… in the midst of passing massive spending, having homeless Gitmo types… that Congress and Obama were going to get away with sliding thru putting the census under the authority of the POTUS? I highly doubt even the liberal MSM would let them get away with this without a ton’o’sheeeeeet. It would not be as easy a task as you portray.

I just want to add that Obama is basically doing the same thing to Clinton. He appointed her to what should be the most powerful position in his cabinet, and then stripped the position of much of its power, delegating it out to others loyal specifically to himself. He is a micro-manager to the nth degree.

Mata, I wasn’t trying to be argumentative, I was just trying to lay out specifics. What I was trying to say in 20, but I guess didn’t come across correctly, is that Gregg’s appointment would have made it easier for Obama to get it through congress. Without Gregg at commerce, I think it will go through anyway, but it will come with a little higher political price tag for Obama. The Dems in congress won’t argue much, but they will want something in return, and I doubt senate republicans will waste a filibuster on it, even if they could get the rino’s to support it. They are going to have enough fights on their hands, though I hope I’m wrong.

There are plenty of precedents for moving different agencies to cabinet level. SBA was cabinet level during the Clinton administration, and Sen. Snowe even asked Obama to move it back to cabinet level. It would be pretty easy for Obama to agree with her in return for her support of moving the census dept, and make the argument to the rest that the census is “important” enough to warrant a cabinet level position.

You are only slightly wrong on one point, and that is that the Constitution doesn’t require the census to be conducted every ten years, it requires it “within every subsequent term of ten years”. U.S. Code 13 requires it to be conducted every 10 years beginning in 1980 (1980, 1990, 2000, etc.) but it also requires a census to be taken in the off five years also (1985, 1995, 2005, etc.) though it currently precludes that census from being used for federal redistricting, and does allow for estimates and models to be used during those. Semantics, I know, but still important details. There is no constitutional restriction on the primary census being conducted every two years if congress decides, so it would theoretically be possible for a president to be completely in control of the census and use it to effect the gerrymandering of house districts every two years. Not likely, but a possibility, and I wouldn’t put the attempt past someone like Obama.

The GOP is really running short of heros, and if this is what you want to grasp at… feel free.

Correct, we are short of heroes in the GOP, at the moment. We have to pick our fights carefully. Let us keep them where they can do the most good. A cabinet appointment would be pissing in the wind, Mata.

Saying no to a bankrupt group(Obama Dems) is a good way of defining your difference to the American public. There are more ways to kneepcap this administration, guaranteeing it as a one term administration, than a cabinet appointment.

There are more ways to kneepcap this administration, guaranteeing it as a one term administration, than a cabinet appointment.

Like trying to torpedo the economy even further? That’s what it’s starting to look like.

@Fit fit:

That’s what it’s starting to look like.

It only looks that way to those who refuse to understand that this Spendulus bill will not help the economy.

We’ll see. One of us wil be able to do our “I told you so’s” about this time next year…

Ummmm unfit, even if the economy is ok by this time next year it wouldn’t mean their “stimulus” plan had anything to do with it.

Mata, where did I say he was a hero? I THINK I understand where he was coming from. I could be wrong about tho.
You call him selfish or a coward, based off of incomplete information. The fact you agree with unfit should be a hint that maybe you aren’t judging fairly.

“The fact you agree with unfit should be a hint that maybe you aren’t judging fairly.”

Double dittos!

Gregg did the right thing Mata. And it’s about time someone in the GOP from the Northeast did.

You don’t have to stand up and cheer if you don’t want to but it’s certainly advised.

Gregg bucked Obama mania and turned down a cabinet position that the Obamatons claim he asked for.

That shows a certain backbone and integrity.

He deserves both our praise and our thanks.

Wisdom #24. Thank you for the clarification of every 10 years vs “within” every 10 years. You are correct in that even tho current law states it’s every 10 years, Congress could change it to every two if they so desired.

I don’t think it would be an easy a task to move the census to cabinet oversight. It’s not just “any” agency, Wisdom. Even the mad-for-Obama liberal media would look askance at that. You live up to your name when you pointed out the potential abuse for political ends when in control of these figures.

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Fit… the only ones trying to torpedo the economy are the bozos trying to pass this stimulus. As far as the “I told you so’s”…. I can do that to you now. The numbers for Jan are up. Even my liberal local Oregon news was talking about how Jan was a surprise for positive numbers.

I also pointed out in my Obama taking credit were none was due post that the earliest places for the housing decline had bottomed out and things were starting to move again, as mentioned by Chris Low interview. All indicators by economists are believing that things will be on the uptick by the end of this year max… and possibly earlier.

Funny how all this can happen *without* the stimulus, eh?

Next year will, of course, be better than now. Because of the stimulus? No. Will it be as good as it could be? No… because they are going to pass the stimulus.

But I’m giving you your due “I told you so” today. We don’t need no stinkin’ stimulus like this.

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Skye #25. I absolutely agree that an Obama cabinet appointment is like pissing in the wind. Which brings me to the enignma of just why he accepted to begin with. And here’s where I’ll bring in Hard Right’s lambasting of me calling him “selfish” (I actually called him self-serving) or a coward based on “incomplete information”. Hardly…

Let’s look at the timeline, and what he did… or should have known.

Feb 2nd, Gregg knew he was likely to be tapped, and demanded a GOP be appointed in his replacement so as to not further shift the balance of power.

Feb 3rd, Obama officially nominated him for the job.

Feb 12th, he withdraws citing “irresolvable” differences over the stimulus and the census. For the latter, ONLY in the written statement.

Let me remind you what Gregg said when he was nominated back on Feb 3rd

Gregg, in turn, praised Obama’s $800 billion-plus proposal to stabilize the economic slide and pull the country out of recession as an “extraordinarily bold, aggressive, effective and comprehensive plan.”

“This is not a time for partisanship,” the New Hampshire senator said. “This is not a time when we should stand in our ideological corners and shout at each other. This is a time to govern and govern well.”

How does he praise the stimulus as “bold, aggressive, effective and comprehensive”, then call it “irresolvable” nine days later? The House bill had passed a week before Obama nominated him… was he so clueless to the structure of spending there? Or did he find the House bill also “bold, aggressive and effective”??

So forgive the heck out of me if I find his sudden change of heart and magically recovered fiscal conservative ideals somewhat disingenuous. Timing just doesn’t support a sudden, eye-opening re’education on the stimulus for the Senator.

Cap it with this… it was just a day after his nomination that the Obama aide made the comment that the Census Director would have a direct line to the President (altho they were later redefining it saying they would not be “reporting” to the POTUS…. figuring out later the legalities, I guess.

Gregg has *also* known about this somewhat political incestuous relationship for over a week. But it takes him that long to claim it was, again, an irresolvable” issue?

The cowardly comes in when asked specifically about the Census issue by reporters, he dodged it’s import by calling it “only a slight catalyzing issue” – in direct opposition to his written statement.

I don’t know specifically why Gregg wanted out. But my guess it was neither reason he gave since he was in full command of facts for over a week.

But I do know that by refusing the job, he was securing his own future as an elected official. Perhaps he did not want to risk all (like Hillary) to serve at the pleasure of the POTUS. So yes, Hard Right… Gregg’s decision was self-serving. He chose not to try and honestly guard the Commerce hen house.

And his refusal to be more upfront about the census “incest”, so to speak, was cowardly. If he can name it in a statement as irresolvable, he should not belittle it’s import in his decision to the press.

Now, who’s now going to keep a watchful, honest eye on the Commerce Dept? Whoever it is can easily be made the scapegoat… yes. But per Jan numbers, the economy is coming alive again and Obama will claim “success” using this as soon as the stimulus plan passes. So it may not be all thorns and briar patches in that gig. I think he’ll go for a liberal this round….

Mike’sA: I guess I’m just more leery of all pols in Congress… all parties. I’m sure Gregg will survive without my “praise” and “thanks”. Quite frankly, I wasn’t impressed when he took the gig, and I’m hard pressed to be impressed when he gives it back.

I can either consider him an unknowing fool who, as someone said here, saw the “dark side” and came out. Or I can consider a guy who weighed the options – a week *after* the fact – for his personal success and figured he made a bad choice.

Personally, I would have liked had he taken it, became a good watchdog for political skullduggery, and kept the public aware of such doings. If he was fired, he became a private citizen who could lodge a lawsuit against the executive branch.

But perhaps this is asking too much of a public official… to fall on his pension, so to speak.

Mata: It would not be honorable for Gregg to have taken the job with the purpose of being a public “watchdog.” That’s not how a cabinet officer should behave.

I too was disappointed when Gregg took the job.

But he did the right thing now and for that, again, he deserves both thanks and praise.

Or…. do you prefer the model of behavior offered by Sens. Specter, Snowe and Collins?

Mike, every public servant has the obligation to be a public watchdog. Or perhaps that’s just my idealistic view of what public officials are supposed to do… elected, appointed, or hired. They should perform the job within the letter of the law, and let the world know when there is nefarious doin’s abounding.

And of course I don’t prefer the terrible trio of RINOs. If I’m not pleased with Gregg’s behavior for both taking it, and giving it back, I *must* like Specter, Snowe and Collins? This isn’t an either/or world here. At least *mine* isn’t.

Tell you what… I’ll give Gregg this one. If he took the gig in order to embarrass the Obama admin deliberately, I’ll give him a thumbs up for “piling on”. Okay?

And what will you think if he returns to Congress, and votes yea on the stimulus… returning to his opinion a week ago that it was a “bold, aggressive and efficient” plan? He will have the luxury of voting no and still seeing it pass, of course. His presence and vote there is optional. So perhaps we will never know.

You assume he would be able to be a watchdog. Even if he was willing to do so, who says obama and his henchmen would allow it? To be blunt, they wanted Gregg to be their bitch. Who knows the reasons he left?

I was thinking more of a mini bully pulpit than a watchdog. The MSM loves conflict and drama. Everytime he opened his mouth to criticize, it would of been newsworthy.

@MataHarley:

And what will you think if he returns to Congress, and votes yea on the stimulus… returning to his opinion a week ago that it was a “bold, aggressive and efficient” plan? He will have the luxury of voting no and still seeing it pass, of course. His presence and vote there is optional.

Well, it looks like he’s going to vote “NO”:

A day after dropping out of cabinet contention, New Hampshire Sen. Judd Gregg says he will vote against the $787 billion stimulus package.

Gregg said Friday the package contains a great deal of money that isn’t well spent. He said he can support a robust stimulus package that focuses more on shoring up the real estate market and keeping people in their homes. He said it also should have focused more aggressively on small business tax breaks.

Gregg voted NO on the first Senate bill so voting NO on the second should be no surprise.

Again, he’s a Northeastern GOP Senator voicing and ACTING on solid conservative principles and should be both praised and thanked.

P.S. When Mike Pence announced to a closed Capitol Hill meeting that Gregg had withdrawn there were cheers throughout the room.

@Mike’s America:

He abstained the first go round.

Well he’d surely look the fool to vote yes on it now, after all this dramatic show… LOL! And boy, Mike… how’d you miss that abstain bit, guy? The vote was on the 11th… he was a Commerce nominee at that time. Wouldn’t look very good for him to vote, would it?

But that praise with the phrase, “bold, aggressive, efficient and comprensive”, will forever stick in my mind.

Pols are fickle. I don’t like fickle. But if it makes you happy, Mike, I’m glad he’s back to imitating a conservative. And I’ll say no more about his convenient departure from the same in order to take the Obama offer. You all engage in your praise and thanks fest for me.

All I heard is that he didn’t vote FOR it… I’m still disconnected in Dallas.

Still can’t believe you can’t cheer when one of our guys does the right thing.

@MataHarley:

I’m reading that Gregg’s pivotal moment on this was when the Republicans were locked out of the negotiations.

Well, not that it matters, this has been a tough one for me, being the Pisces that I am, if anyone can believe in that stuff, sometimes swimming both ways can get confusing, if anyone can believe in that stuff. Yes, I have another dreadful birthday coming soon.

I’ve spent a bit of time reading through blog posts all over everywhere, also the comments, you find die hard Gregg supporters from NH and non-supporters from NH. One supporter even went so far as to say he thought Gregg may have pulled out because of the decision of the new administration to allow Syria to buy parts from us to repair their Boeings. It had been stalled for months and the Commerce Dept. went ahead with it. Right now we don’t know if something like that factored in, most of the commentary focuses on the Census and the Stimulus.

Then reading through an Independant blog I read every morning, I found this:

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/batchelor-judd-gregg-is-a-wimp/

Don’t always agree with them, I like the info they provide whether I agree or not, but until Gregg proves himself in the near future, I am going to side with Mata.

You’re a brave girl siding with me on this one, Ms. Missy. Just remember for us ol’ broads, lots of mud thrown in our faces should be rejuvenating…. LOL

Aye, strikes me that Gregg’s entire make up consists of “pivotal” moments….

until Gregg proves himself in the near future, I am going to side with Mata.

Gregg already proved his mettle by not taking the cabinet seat.

I’m certain Gregg is a competent politician who sees the abject futility of working with Obama. More important, he is not lending Obama any of his expertise. I do not want this administration to be successful, Gregg deprived this administration of talent and expertise.

Good.

Mata, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this issue.