Taliban are ‘patriots,’ says Pakistani Army official

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Just to get everyone back up to speed (since the msm seems to prefer distracting us with more Natalie Holloway stories or political smears about an irrelevant Palin)…

-Pakistan is America’s ally. Without them, the US could not wage war in Afghanistan, hunt Osama Bin Laden, and devastate Al Queda’s leadership core. Most of the Al Queda who have been killed/captured since the 911 attacks have been killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and in Pakistan. Love em or hate em….the Saudis and Pakistanis do run up a respectable tally & deserve thanks for that.

-Pakistan has problems. They’ve got nuclear weapons, an itchy trigger finger for launching against India (lest we forget that they’ve been on the brink of nuclear war several times), the country has hundreds of thousands of people willing to be terrorists, and they’ve got those tribal areas where sovereignty exists only on a map.

-The Taliban who took over Afghanistan when the Soviets and Americans abandoned it were backed by Pakistani intelligence as well as Al Queda. Even today, there are innumerable love connections between our ally’s intelligence services and our enemies (the Al Queda network of terrorist groups).

OK, now take those three things and add in the timeline of recent events.

-The US has been pre-emptively, unilaterally, bombing Al Queda leaders in the allegedly-sovereign tribal areas of Pakistan (a sovereign area is one where the government’s rule of law exists, but there is no Pakistani control over these areas=no real sovereignty beyond a line on a map.)

-NEXT, add in these highly publicized terror attacks from an Al Queda group backed directly and in several ways (confirmed by multiple sources in India, US, UK, etc) by the Pakistani Army, Navy, intelligence services and more.

-Now toss in President-elect Obama’s blank check, public permission slip for nuclear-armed India to attack nuclear-armed Pakistan at a time when both nations have their armed forces at a wartime alert level.

I invite you all to draw your own conclusions as we draw closer and closer to a regional nuclear war (again), and to the Inauguration Day for a man with zero foreign policy experience, a national security team without unity of direction, purpose, or the ability to tell their boss he needs to shut up. Me, I think India would be smart to let their very capable intelligence services deal with the Pakistani ISI in terms of retaliation. However, it’s unlikely that such an action would satisfy the angry population of India, and any action that will do so is bound to have equal effect towards enraging the population of Pakistan. Only the hope that cooler heads will prevail can change the direction of this growing crisis sparked by 10 guys with rifles. Sadly, as that need for cooler heads grows, we get a President-elect who can’t help but babble on with hot air that fans the flames rather than cools them.

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So if India does attack Pakistan…

would it be more likely that they would use the following to support their actions

The US national policy (the Bush Doctrine) calls for preemptive strikes
or
that the USA is already bombing inside Pakistan to get at terrorists
or
would they just state the obvious… that all sovereign nations have the right to self defense. Israel does this every day.
or
Obama says its ok.

It’s just not 10 guys though. Hindu temples and the people in or around them in India are frequently attacked by guys coming from Pakistan.

If Zardari doesn’t put a leash on his own military and/or purge out the Taliban/al Qaeda sympathizers this promises to get real ugly and unpredictable real quick. Mumbai was to India as 9-11 was to the U.S.. I suspect Obama will be as ineffective a leader in this as he was in the Illinois state senate. Gaffemaster Biden will be no help, neither will Hillary as all three of them are doves on foreign affairs and about as useful as treating AIDS symptoms with placebo.

We’re quickly running out of time for Bush-Cheney-Rice to do anything to help diffuse this & once they are out of office. I foresee very little practical application of America into this equation. There’s also no use looking to the U.N. for any real solution. All they’ve done is condemn the terrorist attacks in Mumbai. Big Whoop:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=76707&sectionid=351020402

I can see India doing a lockdown on it’s border, but not sure if India would use it’s new Agni III ballistic nukes (see: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/india/news/article_1290474.php), but there are a few sticky areas here. If you’re India, what would you target? With only a 3,000 klick range to work with, do you go for the terrorist camps in the north? That could endanger American & NATO forces along the border. Military targets, since the terrorist are being supported by a faction of people within the military? I don’t see them targeting the capitol as Zardari is certainly not condoning the terrorist actions, so that would be counter-productive. If India launches a nuke, would Pakistan or China respond (http://www.fas.org/blog/ssp/2008/05/extensive-nuclear-deployment-area-discovered-in-central-china.php)?

From a sovereignty/War on Terrorism aspect, since certain members of the Pakistani military/intelligence community have actual come out supporting these terrorists, despite Zardari & His minister’s position, an argument could be made that these terrorists were state supported and/or harbored by Pakistan. I don’t have any idea off the cuff what this event might leading to in regards to responses.

Hey sigmundringeck:
If you’re following this thread, hopefully you can take the pulse there in China and give us some insight on how this issue is perceived there. Does China have an official reaction to all this?