Perfect timing from Jonah:
You and I read a Lincoln biography and conclude that Lincoln was great. Obama reads the same book and concludes that he is Lincoln.
Not only does Obama conclude that he is Lincoln, so does Newsweek:

Funny, I recall a few things about Lincoln. He saw this country through a devasting civil war with massive casualities and saw it through to the end. He did not concede defeat, nor tuck his tail and run.
Obama saw his country defeating a foe, and demanded we turn tail and run.
Lincolnesque he is not.
Also recall how Lincoln suspended the writ of habeus corpus, seized people and tried them without due process. Something the left and their mouthpieces at Newsweek rail against.
But somehow, someway, Obama is comparable to Republican President Lincoln.
But hey, keep on with idol worship. The high expectations they are putting in place for the messiah is setting Obama up for a huge failure.
I absolutely love it!

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Unfortunately that isn’t how liberals think. If Obama is Lincoln and he fails, it doesn’t mean he’s not Lincoln, it means the problems were so intense that not even Lincoln could have solves them. Therefore, we need to elect more Lincolns and spend more money. Being a liberal means never having to say you failed, you just didn’t spend enough.
Obama is an elitist. He thinks he is the best. Even though he has nothing to show for… lol
He will probably govern like a statue in a park… doing absolutely nothing like his voting record “present” showed. In that way he could resembles Lincoln… I believe Lincoln has a statue of his own somewhere in a park.
Oh please! Can’t “Newsweek” tell the difference between something and nothing?
Newsweep is infiltrated by the likes of Fareed Zakaria, a Muhammedan agit-prop. We need to expose Zakaria for what he is: an enemy agent for the Muslim Brotherhood.
And though shall make a golden calf and pay homage to it…..and God was angry.
These comments miss the key points about Lincoln. For two excruciating years, Lincoln had to put up with George McClellan, you know that dude who graduated first in his class at West Point, but who never won a major battle during the Civil War. When Lincoln started to take notice of Sam Grant, who graduated at the rock bottom of his class at West Point and who had a drinking problem, Lincoln calmly asked what brand Grant drank so he could send some of it to his other failing generals in the Army of the Potomac.
But Lincoln was more than that, he was the Lincoln of the Gettysburg Address. At that affair, he wasn’t even the keynote speaker, but what he said rings loud, clear and true today. Barack Obama and his media apologists need to take a while to understand what happened in 1863, but don’t hold your breath folks. Remember, the Democrats at that time were the Democrats of secession, slavery, the KKK and a whole host of other evils that ripple into today’s politics!!! Barack Obama will never be the equal of Abraham Lincoln, not now, not ever!!!
I don’t think Obama would want “In God We Trust” on a coin with his profile on it. I think he would want it to say “In Obama We Trust”. This is the only change I want from him…and even with this I wouldn’t be thrilled carrying it in my wallet.
When people start thinking they are Napoleon we lock them up in mental hospitals.
When Obama starts taking on the mantle of Lincoln we celebrate him?
The inmates truly are running the asylum.
I apologize in advance. I know this is a really dumb question. But, I’m not sure I get the connection between Lincoln and Obama. I mean, we’ve a lot of Presidents. If you look at policies or accomplishments, why in the world would you automatically say, ‘Oh, of course, Abraham Lincoln?” It makes no sense. But, then again, neither does anything else here in Alice’s Wonderland.
Wait, now this is really out there but, I guess, you could go: Slavery + Freed Slaves + Slaves were Black + Obama is sort of Black …. therefore >>>> Obama = Lincoln.
These people are aware that Lincoln was not actually black, right?
I mean, comparing Obama to Lincoln because Lincoln had something to do with freeing slaves and Obama knows some people who had ancestors who were once slaves.
Pardon me, but isn’t that sort of racist?
I’m very confused.
[Yes, that’s all sarcasm up there. I know Lincoln was not black. I think he was Asian, actually.]
In case folks don’t realize it yet, I’m an unabashed MedHead:
This part of the Newsweek article turns my stomach ill:
Obama successfully created the persona and facade of someone who rose above partisan division and someone who reached across the aisle. Yet from the beginning, he engaged in negative attacks yet wasn’t called on it. His 100 years charge against McCain, tying him to Bush, claiming “let’s talk about the issues”, then proceeds to talk about Bush and 8 years of failure (am I supposed to unite behind that message? Is that supposed to make us “come together”?), “get in their face”, pulling out the race card, bitter folk clinging to their guns and religion.
Actually, the Newsweek comparison is such a stretch, I can draw correlation between its points on Lincoln, to Bush:
Note Bush picking one of the most over-qualified vice presidents in history whose counsel he respected and wanted, but from accounts I’ve read (aside from that of BDSers) Bush was always in the driver’s seat- not Cheney.
Note that Bush, in the spirit of “bipartisanship”, kept Clinton holdovers such as George Tenet. Same as how he governed Texas, which is why he thought he could be a “uniter and not a divider”. It was partisan Democrats who sabotaged Bush’s attempts at setting aside partisan differences. Note his graciousness toward Pelosi during the 2006 election loss and his graciousness and class in helping the transition process be as smooth as possible for the sake of the county.
Sounds like Bush.
Bush’s circumstances have similarities every bit as much as trying to draw correlations with Obama and Lincoln:
Comparisons between Obama and Lincoln are as premature and hyperbolic as the recurring theme on this site that Obama’s election represents the death knell for American democracy. The strained attempt to compare Bush to Lincoln is equally untenable.
Bush humble, yet confident? Cocky and incompetent is far more accurate. Yes, George Bush is humble, Sarah Palin is eloquent, and Barrack Obama isn’t really all that smart. Who are you going to believe – me or your own eyes and ears?
I note in passing that Lincoln vehemently opposed a foreign war that he believed had nothing to do with the actual security of the United States.
Whenever I read or hear Hussein’s name mentioned in the same sentence or breath as President Lincoln’s my blood pressure rises . This is the most asinine claim to date and there are so many. Thank you for your comment and references Wordsmith.
After reading the entire Newsweek piece, I liked the ‘disclaimer’ near the end:
From what I know of Lincoln, Barry is certainly no Lincoln. LBJ? Okay I could live with that. Johnson was a shifty, untrustworthy S.O.B. too. However, Lyndon didn’t come in at the tail end of the Vietnam War. So how about “Tricky Dick” Nixon?
http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2008/10/11/will-obama-be-the-next-nixon/
Election corruption with Acorn and DNC primaries compared to Watergate spying on the opposition party to get hedge his bets before the debates?
Refusal to take responsibilities and hiding of the past; “I am not a crook.” & 18 minutes of missing tape recordings vs “Ayers was just a guy in my neighborhood.” & denial of access to past records.
Wanted to bring a losing war to an early conclusion vs. wants to lose a war by pulling out too soon.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/865754.html
I don’t think I’ld want to buy a used car from either administration.
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2008/07/new-obama-new-nixon-and-same-old-new.html
http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/10/nixon-obama-take-three.html
Obama Like Nixon backed out of public campaign financing.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/10/chuck_hagel_wil/
http://www.nextleft.org/2008/11/bipartisan-obamas-nixon-moment.html
More from:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/barack_obama_richard_nixon_sou.html
Comparisons can be a bit fun eh? hehe.
I note in passing that Lincoln was probably right about the Mexican-American War while Obama was wrong about Iraq.
Obama is smart? What are you going to believe, his teleprompter-less speaking or his undisclosed college grades?
If you wanted to ruin America, what three things could greatly help to accomplish this goal?
1) Support policies that would likely lead to failure in Iraq. Obama — Check
2) Raise taxes during a recession or near-recession. Obama — Check
3) Be the single most divisive president-elect and soon to be president in American history. Obama — Check.
Thanks Wordsmith, love your post.
Our area is steeped in the history of the Blackhawk War, our former home was located near Stillman Valley, IL where the battle of Stillman Run took place. Passed the cemetary everyday where those who died fighting it were buried.
“……The presence of the Soldiers, Statesman, Abraham Lincoln, assisting in the buriel of the honored dead has made this spot more sacred.”
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilogle/battleground.htm
Lincoln not only was a Statesman, I believe he was a Captain in our military when he toured the battlefield and participated in the burial.
Comparing Obama to Lincoln is absurd, crazy-talk. Most people in the rural areas of Illinois still think of him as a carpetbagger, we thought the same of Alan Keyes during the Senate campaign. Although Lincoln came to us from Kentucky, he more than qualified himself as a true Illinoisan, Obama is nothing more than a Chicagoan, big, big difference. Now that Chicago runs the state, seen how well that goes for us lately? Their politics and way of doing things will be moving into the WH in January.
And yes, the Lincoln/Bush comparison is more fitting.
I’m in the filter again, please and thank you.
@Rocky_B:
Now that’s a credible gathering of undeniable facts. Both you and Wordsmith are pretty perky this morning, made my day!
Braininahat,
No teleprompter at the debates. Sounded pretty good to me.
Here – it’s real simple. If you make it onto an NFL football team, you’ve got a good 40-yard dash, a good bench press, and a good squat. If you get into Harvard Law School, get chosen president of the law review, and then get hired to teach constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for 12 years, you’re pretty smart.
History has proven Lincoln right about the Mexican War. At the time he was excoriated for his position. I’m content to let history judge Obama’s position on the Iraq War.
“Be the single most divisive president-elect and soon to be president in American history. Obama — Check.”
Not sure where to start. How would you substantiate the first claim? And the second claim is redundant. The President-elect is the “soon to be president” You’ve failed to establish your credentials as a prophet. Short of that, I think you should wait and see. That’s what a prudent person would do.
Correct em if I’m wrong, but I think you guys have missed the point of the article, which is titled “Obama Looks to Lincoln”. Although some cursory similarities are acknowledged in the beginning of the article, I believe the point being made is that Obama is looking to draw from the experiences of Lincoln in his own Presidency, rather than that Obama considers himself to be, or that the authors consider him to be, President Lincoln. Surely you wouldn’t object to that.
Curt: “… The high expectations they are putting in place for the messiah is setting Obama up for a huge failure.”
SG: Actually this last point worries me a bit, ’cause Failure is somethin’ y’all know about. In fact after ’06 and now ’08, y’all (R) Failure experts.
Look … The truth is, we all know whatever obstacles Obama runs up against, he can lay them off on “W” and 80% of the population will accept it. ‘Coarse’ if’n “W” hadn’t screwed up so bad, Obama couldn’t do it. But …. “W” did and so Obama will be able to …
Snerd
Misty: “… And yes, the Lincoln/Bush comparison is more fitting.”
SG: AGREED! The (R) both dead from the neck up!
Snerd
And yet he’s still smarter than Gore, Kerry, and obama. Doesn’t say much about the dems, does it?
Reasic: “… I think you guys have missed the point of the article, which is titled “Obama Looks to Lincoln”.
SG: Look Reasic, thems just words … and maybe nuance too. Anywayz … in Belief-Empiricism, we jest look fir associations, no matter how tenuous and we call it “Faith …. Built by Association”
Snerd
Lincoln? I guess no one wants to hang the closer comparison of Carter on him…
But I agree with Dave Noble’s first comment (and not the rest… LOL)…. comparing Obama to anything or anyone is premature. The guy’s not even POTUS yet, fer heavens sake. He’s done nothing yet, but talk a big game, and give a few people new jobs.
Mata,
And how in “talking a big game” is Obama any different than any other President-elect? You can’t play the game until the kickoff. And what President ever got elected by saying “I don’t really expect to do much.”
How is Obama NOT Lincolnesque!? … A ‘penny’ for your thoughts …
Snerd
Obama sure did say he was going to do a lot………of tax raising and industry destroying.
He said he would, “spread the wealth around.” He said he would raise the capital gains tax even that would reduce the governments income because, “it is the fair thing to do.” He never did say to whom it would be fair.
He sounds more Marxist than Lincolnesque
Snerd Gunk: Lincoln said, and I am paraphrasing because I do not have the exact quote in front of me, “You do not build up a man’s house be destroying another’s.”
Obama wants to take from those who work hard, study, save, sacrifice, pay taxes, send their kids to school, and give it to those who do none of these things.
He sounds more Marxist than Lincolnesque.
Lincoln was right about the MexAm War? Didn’t we get the West from that war, including California, Washington, Oregon, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado?
Oh, well maybe he was right.
As for Obama being Lincoln, hogwash (and my apologies to the hogs). Obama being humble?
Did Lincoln have a faux West Wing built for his inauguration? Did Lincoln create his own faux Presidential seal and logo? Did Lincoln claim to be Messianic? Even the Son of God did not go to the lengths of Obama in promoting Himself. Yet, Obama is ‘humble’?
Did Lincoln write an autobiography before he accomplished anything of note? But Obama did, and yet Obama is ‘humble’. No Obama is humbug. He is Reagan without substance, all surface, little substance. That’s why Obama had to hire all Clinton aides (even Clinton had more substance than Obama will ever have) because Obama’s an empty suit.
Did Lincoln pal around with Confederates? Did he think secession was a good thing?
Did he pal around with Indian revolutionaries and their apologists? No, but Obama had comparable friends and allowed them to his Eleciton Night party in Grant Park.
One man had principles of Country First, the other man always puts himself FIRST above his Country.
Good read, Obama/FDR:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122705663771939523.html
The media and country should let the left-wing illuminati actually get in and attempt to do something before they start giving them credit or making comparisons.
President Lincoln and President Obama share ancestors!
How cool is that.
Wishing the best for our new President on the eve of his Presidential Inauguration.
Aloha!!!!!!
He’s also related to the Cheney’s, how cool is that?
I guess he’s going to have a hard time changing that.
Hi all;
Back from the holidays. Hope you all had great time during yours.
Alexis;
I daresay Obama’s ancestry is much closer to the Bush & Cheney family trees than Lincoln. It took me a while following your link to find what Family Forest might be referring to. Granted many of our presidents were related, but in tracing Lincoln’s tree back to the 1500’s, I fail to see this common ancestor they allege, nor do they provide the Lincoln connection in their PDF link of Obama’s ancestors, nor do any of the other names given there crop up. Ref:
http://familyforest.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/family-forest-kinship-report-of-barack-obama4.pdf
I do see Herbert Hoover, G.W. Bush, and a link to the Cheney family listed. Family Forest does not show exactly how he is supposedly linked to George Washington, as the various stories also claim. I do see an Elizabeth Washington listed, but I also see a lot of Hinckley’s. It doesn’t mean anything unless you can actually make the connections. But how funny is that? Obama could be related to the guy who attempted to assassinate President Reagan?
The only name I see that comes close to the family tree is Elizabeth Boone, who if she was perhaps a descendant of Daniel Boone would connect Obama through our Berry line to the Hanks, but only by marriage, not by blood. Sorry, not close enough by genealogical standards to call a common ancestor.
Regardless, you are of course touting the very same “white” heritage of his family tree that he long ago threw under the bus in his efforts to ignore his elite white heritage to politically exploit his lesser black heritage. How cool is that? What’s more, BHO is only; what 6% black? And as has been pointed out, his black family tree comes directly from his connections to his father in Africa and has no relationship to any American ancestors who were enslaven.
It’s easy to create unsubstantiated rumors as to who one might be related to. In the Family Forest link you provided, they admit their information hasn’t been confirmed. It means nothing in genealogy unless you can back the claim up with documentational evidence. Besides, his heritage has no bearing on how Obama will lead this country. Lincoln was second-third cousin to several members of Quantrille’s Raiders, a band of Confederate border raiding outlaws whose surviving members would later join Jesse Jame’s gang. That didn’t effect how Lincoln ran his administration, now did it?