Congratulations to the President Elect, Senator Barack Obama. He may be the most undeserving, least vetted, least experienced presidential candidate in American history…but what should stand out is the historic moment of the United States breaking the ultimate glass ceiling, to elect the first black (biracial) American to the highest office. As much as I have deplored the crutch of racial fixation, the fact that we witnessed it happen, is something to be proud of, turning a page in our history. If there is anything positive to result from this election, it’s the potential for the country to finally move beyond race. It is, at least symbolic, if nothing else. Racism will always exist. But no one can ever again accuse America of “holding the black man down”.
John McCain gave a very gracious, a very necessary concession speech tonight. I am proud of what he said. I don’t blame him nor President Bush for losing us this election. Frankly, I believe John McCain of all our Republican candidates had the best shot at winning. The fact we lost says more about the excitement and energy that surrounded Senator Obama than the unworthiness of Senator McCain. We can whine about the media, we can complain about the lost opportunities and poor strategy of the McCain campaign, the unprecedented amount of campaign money that weighed against us…but at some point you just have to stop whining like Democrats of the last 8 years. Eat your crow, and take the lumps. It’s not the end of the world. My country may seem unrecognizable to me tonight; but the sun will come out tomorrow…someday. We still remain the greatest nation on God’s green earth. Sarah Palin’s political career is just beginning. We’ve not seen the last of her. Or Tina Fey.
I only speak for myself; but can only encourage those reading this to do as John McCain has done; do as Scott suggests; do as decent Americans do and put country first: Respect the electoral process and congratulate your political opponents on their hard-earned victory. I know our passions ran deep, and this election hurt deep. But it’s not the death of conservative ideology or the Republican Party. It wasn’t a landslide victory, and Senator McCain finished respectably. Nor did the Democrats gain their filibuster-proof majority seats.
At some point, as liberating as it is from mainstream news, the blogosphere can be a very toxic place. For all the fear we foresee in an Obama Presidency, my one hope is that we are proven wrong. That some of what we “investigated” into his past history, however legitimate, will not reflect upon his need to govern to the center and serve ALL the people of the United States. Not just blacks. Not just liberals. But serve all Americans.
Senator Obama has given lip service to promises of unity, bipartisanship, of reaching out. Let’s give him the chance to prove it, then hold him accountable to his words. Let’s not do to him what liberal Democrats have done to President Bush for 8 years.
Of course I will still fight tooth and nail against the liberal agenda and policies I feel would steer America in the wrong direction. He may be influenced by socialist ideology, but America is not a socialist nation. But tonight, this night…..we should all be proud as Americans that once every two, four years, we have the freedom to choose our elected leaders. We should feel grateful that we have a voice; and that each of our votes counts. That we are able to transition leadership, peaceably. We remain an example of representative democracy to the rest of the world.
In America, anything is possible. A man with the unlikely name of “Barack Hussein Obama” just proved it. It is sad that Barack Obama’s grandmother did not live long enough to see this day….
…and a happy climax for Chris Matthews and his “leg thrill”.
God bless America.
A former fetus, the “wordsmith from nantucket” was born in Phoenix, Arizona in 1968. Adopted at birth, wordsmith grew up a military brat. He achieved his B.A. in English from the University of California, Los Angeles (graduating in the top 97% of his class), where he also competed rings for the UCLA mens gymnastics team. The events of 9/11 woke him from his political slumber and malaise. Currently a personal trainer and gymnastics coach.
The wordsmith has never been to Nantucket.
Centfla: There are a number of factors that are responsible for yesterday’s defeat. Primarily among them was Obama’s refusal to adhere to his public financing of campaigns pledge that allowed him to raise AND SPEND more money than ever before in history. In Florida Obama is reported to have spent $39 million which is almost half what McCain spent on his entire campaign.
McCain choose to remain with the public financing system he long supported.
He is ultimately responsible for the consequences of that decision. That and the boneheaded idea of suspending his campaign over the financial crisis then walking into the trap the Democrat’s set for him.
The loss had nothing to do with a rejection of conservatism. None whatsoever. And if you think it did, do me a favor and go re-register as a Democrat.
McCain veered to the right and that’s why he lost? Picking Palin was hardly veering to the right. That’s why obama won by being more conservative than McCain. Cent, you are exactly what they mean by RINO.
Like I said, purge the RINOs like CentFla and those who think it is beneath them to fight back like Word from the party. Part of our undoing is welcoming them in and then listening to them.
Palin 2012
Mike is partly right. He forgot to add his refusal to fight back and nail obama on his bogus claims because it might seem “mean”. We don’t have to be nasty like the dems, just willing to fight.
I have to get some work done today so please do not consider any further replies for a while my ducking a point.
But HR and MA – you’re both asking me to leave the party while complaining about getting fewer votes is an oxymoron. It is exactly why we are in this position.
If McCain lost because he did not spend enough money then why did Chris Shays lose? Was it also McCain’s fault that Orlando lost two of the three incumbent GOP congressmen? Is that why Coleman can’t beat Al Franken?
The brand is damaged and that is why McCain lost. The brand lost yesterday and took Mac with it. You can blame Mac all you want for not winning the presidency but the problem is much, much deeper than that and until you two recognize that and stop telling people that they are not welcome in “your party” the GOP will be relegated to the same states that seceeded 140 years ago because they didn’t get their way either.
off to the grindstone.
I like the Palin 2012 strategy… that ticket will go down faster than Lisa Ann in a spoof porn!
Sigh. Cent, you just don’t get it. The brand is damaged because of RINOs and wimps. It’s bad enough the media openly campaigned for obama, but it didn’t help when the people I’ve named acted like liberals or let liberal lies go unchecked. Not to mention so-called Conservatives (RINOs really) publicly bashing Palin-the future of the Party. I am sick of wimps who pat themselves on the back for not fighting back, while looking down their noses at those of us who do. (wordsmith)
McCain is mpartly to blame for his loss, but he is a symptom of the illness. By trying to be all things to all people, we became nothing to everyone. McCain thought the dems were reasonable, honest, patriotic, and well meaning. He failed to recognize that they are none of those things. That part of the loss is on him. Letting RINOs and wimps pick our candidates is on us.
No Cent, moving further to the left was not the answer and never has been.
wordsmith
who ever said I was classy??
OH yea like the Finger bho gave to McCain and the finger bbho gave to Hillary??
Catherine
@Wordsmith: What do you expect to come from someone who thinks “aint” is using proper English? Uneducated, and showing it.
Now, not only is our country divided, the republican party fighting within themselves. That is why republicans lost. Does not give me much hope about unity. EVERYONE NEEDS TO EXCEPT IT, AND MOVE FORWARD. Give him a chance to show us he can lead us. Just like we did to Bush, untill he proved us wrong. America has spoken, we are headed in a new direction, lets see what that is, then judge.
Voter,
Nice words, but the left NEVER gave Bush that chance.
@ChrisG: I did
I’m trying to point out, that when Kerry lost and when Gore lost, the Dems did not fight amongst themselves. Keep it up and we will have a divided republican party. And an even more divided America.
Voter
qualche volta lei non può andare d’accordo appena
Catherine
@Hard Right:
Get over yourself. Obama won because he campaigned to the center. If he had campaigned himself as a far liberal socialist, America would have rejected him. He had the energy and charisma that McCain lacked, and the media and money to disseminate the image and message he wanted to convey.
Take some ownership for your own inadequacies and quit scapegoating fellow Republicans who aren’t the party purists you wish them to be.
Again: Going hard right, when half the country sways left, isn’t the way to win elections.
@Catherine: ew scary
@Mike’s America:
I know you said that. But if you go back to your first comment, you talked of doing to the left as they did unto us. Here’s what you wrote in comment #19:
That’s not “fighting hard”. That’s saying you want to engage in lies and distortions that you think worked for the liberal BDSers. Your subsequent comment clarified that you were perceiving this differently, but it’s not what came across in that particular comment.
Is that why I sport rightwing bumperstickers? Walk around with rightwing books in clear view wherever I go?
What do you want me to do? Be as obnoxious as leftwingers who walk around with anti-Bush t-shirts, “Buck Fush” slogans on their lips?
Who the frak is saying anything less?! This is about being gracious and acknowledging that we participated in the election process and lost. It’d be embarrassing for conservatism and for the Republican Party if Bush, McCain, Rove, and all the other talking head pundits under public scrutiny behaved like crybabies and sore losers.
@voter: ewwww scarier!
no cute and blond and have lots of fun.
Catherine
Word: If you insist on taking me out of context I will to correct the record.
After the passage you cite above I said:
And I never suggested you be as obnoxious as the left wingers in your area.
I pointed out that I prefer tactics that are more aggressive.
Aggressive doesn’t mean obnoxious and I did not mean to impugn your right wing bumper stickers.
I am pleased that you are in total agreement with me on this:
The lesson from 2008 is that we need to fight HARDER, and make our voices LOUDER, not softer!
@Hard Right:
Don’t confuse civility and graciousness for the lack of desire and ability to bloody your nose.
Agreed, Mike.
@voter:
The left never accepted Bush since the 2000 debacle. 9/11 wasn’t a honeymoon, but a one-night stand.
Bush didn’t “prove us wrong” regarding his leadership ability. His failures included a lack of will in engaging the lies and distortions on Iraq; in allowing the media to write the narrative, unopposed. He’s been a strong leader for keeping us safe for 7 years and making executive decisions based on doing what is right and not what is popular.
@Catherine:
Sorry, Catherine. I didn’t mean to smear you as someone with class, rather than someone more like bho.
@voter:
Then what happened?
How is it that you gave him a chance, when you don’t even accept the legitimacy of the 2000 Election?
@voter:
This is just a lover’s quarrel. What makes you think there wasn’t this sort of disagreement going on in the left side of the blogosphere?
wordsmith
Lovers quarrel do we get to make up?
but bho now that is really low.
Just sick of the left.
Catherine
At least here lost in space don’t have to deal with them hope my country is still my country when I get back.
The Dems fight even when they win. Kos almost dropped his support for Obama over FISA… Look for fireworks over filling Obama’s Senate seat.
@Wordsmith: I actually liked Bush at first, untill I saw how the election went down, and even after that, I gave him the benefit of doubt, untill I saw how he handled the “war on terror”. It was more a path for his buddies to get contracts to “rebuild” Iraq, as well as a way for us to have our hands on their oil. If he were truly worried about weapons of mass destruction, then we would have long been in Iran and the like. Iraq was easier to invade and take over. Same mentality of a school age bully. It’s all about the money. Even if it were just about the oil, I would have respected him more, if he would have said, this is a move to keep America strong, since our worlds oil reserve will be depleted within 60-70 years. But no, he lied and lied and lied. Gave us different reasons why we went to war. It’s 9/11, weapons of mass destruction, no it’s Iraqi freedom.
@Fit fit: Fireworks???? Blogojevic will probably annoint himself to the Senate. Or else someone will pay a good amount to him. There will be no fight.
@Catherine:
So long as you don’t expect me to bend over for you, and “take it”.
I suspect by way of strategy we are mostly in agreement, if not on tactics.
When it comes to foreign policy and national security, education, economy and dealing with poverty, etc., I certainly believe that liberal policies have the exact opposite effect of the desired result.
I know…
I don’t share in the jubilation expressed by those who voted for Obama. I feel like they are wrong on just about everything, and have been rewarded for it.
Already looking forward to 2010 and 2012.
@voter:
Oh yes they did, they had the McAulife faction fighting the Howard Dean faction over the Clintons. Then when Pelosi became Speaker they had the Pelosi/Murtha faction fighting with Steny Hoyer and the gal from California Pelosi bumped out of a committee leadership position. Now you have Hillary voters that were disenfranchised with the corrupt Democratic primary system still fighting.
@voter: WTF aret you talking about. War for oil. If we wanted theoil, why is it that Russia and China are the ones that got deals for oil in Iraq
You are delusional
Word… INRE your post comment:
I’m sorry… but other than Palin, was there a “conservative” on the ballot? I preferred McCain, but it’s pushing it to put him in the “conservative” category – as most of us view conservatism.
Traditional election strategy has candidates running to the center. This election has been different. We have Obama running to the fringe left, and McCain holding down center. His support in the base was sketchy… *until* Palin arrived. Adding her more conservative credentials to the ticket increased the base enthusiam. But she was… in fact… still #2 on the ticket.
I’m sure the Monday morning quarterbacking will continue throughout history on this one. And I’m just as sure that the post game analysis – done primarily by a left slanted media – will be flawed beyond belief. But I have to wonder what the turnout would have been had we had a genuine conservative as a candidate.
Then again, they are becoming an endangered species in real life.
This, of course, makes Fit’s #38 post that McCain lost because conservatives are becoming more liberal fuzzy brain cell fodder. If that were true, they would have turned out in droves to support him.
I have to say the same to you, CentFl… INRE your #44
You suggest that McCain lost because he chose a VP more conservative than he is. It is only with the choice of Palin that the base rallied with even an iota of enthusiasm.
This totally belies the majority of the party being centrist. A choice of Lieberman… tho I actually like him… would have made me want to sit this one out.
BTW… since we’re all feeling benevolent with the taxpayers cash and Obama’s feel good education programs on the taxpayer’s dollar… what do you say we all get together and lobby for Jasmine/David/David1010 to get some free education? Perhaps learn what spelling, punctuation, grammar and paragraphs are?
After that, maybe we can send her to a state psychologist who may be able to string together a thought of two that isn’t somebody’s latest headline….
God, what a pea brain.
DOH! I forgot. Independent thought is no longer in vogue. Never mind. Maybe we should all be deprogrammed to Jasmine’s level with sufficient amounts of prozac in the nation’s drinking water…. LOL
I understand that Mata, my question is: Would McCain have won PA and OH and likely VA and NC with a more centrist pick like Ridge? You know he would have. It probably would have brought NV and IN with it and we would be having a very different conversation this morning.
I never liked the Palin pick and said so the very next morning for all of these reasons. A moderate Republican was the only one that was going to win this time around. The only way a far right candidate wins next time is if BO takes us too far to the left politically or if he lets Pelosi and Reid walk all over him. Otherwise I hope for backing of smart young candidates that will not alienate the entire east coast by calling them elitest.
The republican party has got to engage the coasts and urban areas or fade into irrelevance. Does Sarah Palin help that cause? No
This is a numbers game. McCain lost the election after the majority of GOP primary voters elected him BECAUSE of his centrist past. Then as he was face to face with BO he chose a running mate that alienated the center.
I understand also that many want a more right wing version of the party. That is fine, you can push for that, but you will continue to alienate the middle and that will lose votes and lose elections.
Incedently, I offered to walk Jaz/David or whatever through using Word for the grammar and spell check features… Guess that did not work either…
But but but Cent….LOL
Actually, no I don’t. The welcoming rallies for Palin in both PA and OH totally belie that thinking. Genuinely, this comes down to GOP who didn’t turn out, and GOP who chose… for whatever reason… fringe left over a centrist 1st slot, and more conservative 2nd slot.
He was barely a blip on the radar until Palin arrived.
Now the real head scratcher here that you are suggestings, and that doesn’t make sense… think this over carefully.
Why would a centrist moderate “conservative” voter, being offered the same in McCain, opt to elect a far left fringe Democrat instead? You’re saying they found Palin so offensive that they decided progressive socialism was the better choice?
Not a bit of sense there, when you think about it, CentFl.
@CentFla: NO he would not have won any of the states. the MSM and Obama had tied him to Bush and this was a referendum on Bush. He could have picked anyone and lost, but it was closer because fo Palin. Conservatives were not going to vote for him without her. Ask a good portion of the conservatives if they would have voted enthusiastically for McCain if Palin was not his VP, and I bet you would get a pretty good response of no. Many would have voted 3rd party or not at all. None of the canadates were good candidates. I liked Guliani and the Fred, but after that it was all downhill.
I think Obama could have had a dog as a running mate and he would have won. Bush did not defend himself and deflated the conservatives,and McCain ran one of the worst campaigns that I have seen.
If you’re talking about a tail wagging critter lead around by a leash, I think he did, Stix….
@MataHarley:
Mata I think you are correct. Biden is a walking buffoon. Why did we not hear from him more, it could have helped us out at least a little bit.
That is my point exactly. The centrist voter had two extremes to choose from. What would have happened if Mac had been more moderate? Do you think they would still vote for the one more extreme than the more centrist candidate?
I guess we will have to agree to disagree on Palin. We will find out in the next four years but I fear that if she is the face of the party then we are well on the way to marginalizing ourselves even more. The days of aw shucks, eye winking, who do I want to have a beer with, not pronouncing your “G’s” at the end of words being important to voters is over. now they want someone who solves problems. And for the final time, Palin will never win 90% of the states that she lost this time around. You guys can love her all you want, but you better hope that Jindal, or Crist is the new face of the party or that Mitt can wrestle it away from Palin.
Fred Thompson could not even win the primary. Why would you think Sarah could? Better legs? She is hollow IMHO. (I recognize I could use more H from time to time.)
Well, not to be yet more depressing, but… ponder this little ditty. Were Philip Berg to be successful in his lawsuit to disqualify Obama, and the SCOTUS agrees he has standing as a petitioner, you’d have to get used to “President Biden”.
ouch….
Then, if you really want to slip into slash your wrists depression, if something happened to ol slow Joe, it would be “President Pelosi”.
OMG… almost makes Obama seem the best of the three choices, eh? And on that note, I think “happy hour” may have to come early today…. LOL
CentFl… not to beat this dead elephant too much further… but
Slow down…
1: Obama is extreme without a doubt. But Palin? “Extreme” how in the conservative sense? And please… no media mistruths about a radical woman against birth control. She’s a member of Feminists for Life, fer heavens sake, guy. So on what is Palin “extreme”?
2: McCain as a stand alone was widely shunned by the base because he was too moderate. His spending proposals were not that much less than Obama’s, but at least offered the chance for business and economic growth the way they were structured. But the conservatives have always been lukewarm about McCain.
So if they didn’t like him pre-Palin as a moderate, what makes you think they’d all the sudden love him with a moderate VP choice?
3: You keep saying McCain veered “right”. I suggest that McCain’s always been on a NNW (slight left of center) heading, and all he did in that “sharp turn” was veer directly north on a few issues. Hardly anything that would scare away moderates.
So maybe you ought to point out what radical right beliefs McCain held in his final candidate days that scared all those conservatives into voting for a progressive socialist as a more palatable option?
Take your time guy… :0)
Mac not moderate?
On what planet?
Mac was on the left side of the Conservative movement.
Palin is the only reason he did as well as he did. Palin’s candidacy boosted McCain.
I guess I would have to ask back if you think Palin is a moderate Republican? Really? She has to have to lowest scores on the scale for Animal Rights, Women’s Choice, Guns and the Environment doesn’t she?
I guess I was not clear enough in the other posts that this election was not about the conservative voters, it was about the moderates. He folded to the base during the general when most candidates move to the middle. He continued to call for the Bush tax cuts to be renewed, he backed away from his own bill for immigration reform and said he would not sign his own bill anymore, he changed I think there can be no question about that, and it was not to a more centrist position, again, no question about that.
Mac would have gotten the Conservative vote anyway. Who else would they vote for? And do you really believe that they would have stayed home in stead?
He had the lead just six weeks ago. What do you think happened?
Seems like I am always backing the loser, so everybody stay away from Jindal cause I think I am leaning towards him!
@CentFla:
yes many would have stayed at home like they did on 2006 or would have voted Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin.
I guess we disagree. Every year millions of people vote and admit to doing so for the lesser of two evils. It is my opinion that this year would have been the same.
“If Obama is going to succeed, he is going to succeed because of us.” (Wordsmith)
Wow, I’m impressed! So now you will be helping Obama in succeeding with his socialist agenda. Are you sure you are a Republican or a conservative? You seem more like a leftist to me.
And you will help him stand for Muslims should the political winds turns ugly. WOW! And you will help him cut 25% of you military defense, even if this means that USA will hit the biggest downfall of History. Gee… you are really a nice guy!
“Mac would have gotten the Conservative vote anyway. Who else would they vote for? “
Interesting that exit polls show while 89% of Republicans voted for McCain only 80% of conservatives did. And McCain lost the moderates and Independents too.
Guess many of our conservative friends either found someone else to vote for or didn’t bother voting for Prez at all.
Got any more shibboleths that need to be exposed Cent?
Well Mike you are the expert at labeling people so how could I argue with you?
No, you are the guy who likes exit polls, so what kind of a drop off in Republican votes did McCain suffer relative to Bush? Probably not far from 89% I am guessing.
From your link –
That has been my point all along. He convinced nearly one in ten Republicans to vote for him but only four in ten independents and moderates.
but the people on this site claim he should have gone after the 1 in ten or the two in ten instead of the six in ten.
The stategery as Rush called it was appropriate, but poorly constructed and poorly delivered. If he had conviced the one in ten he still would have lost. If he got half of the independents that went for Obama he would have won.
CentFla,
What you are trying to say is that the whole country is filled with centrists. Centrist are sickening. They have no values, no morale and no pride.
Usually they are pacifists, but they kill 50 millions babies in abortions, which is more than soldier deaths altogether. Poor idiot centrists, they have no brains. They are against immigration, but they don’t make kids and when they do, they kill them. Or they get same sex marriage… boy that helps for having kids. Centrists stands for nothing, they are just plain selfish jerks.
So if your country is so ill with all those centrist idiots (centered on themselves), you say that we should offer them the mediocrity and the stupidity that they like. Remarkable reasoning! You are not out of the wood, my friends. What I’m discovering about American’s mentality on this blog, makes me sick to my stomach. Never thought Americans could sink so low as centrism.
I would have voted for Palin as POTUS without blinking. This is whom your country needs to put a bit of sense in these stupid idiot centrists. CentFla, I believe that “Cent” in your nickname stands for Center, well if it does, then you should write it like this: CentFlaw… notice the “W”.
Now we’re dealing with specifics from you, Cent…
Well now, Cent… I guess if you’re using the liberal/progressive/socialist score card, she scores low. As for animal rights, women’s choice, guns and the environment, she’s a conservative. Not a radical. Just a conservative… not unlike Reagan.
It all depends on who’s judging. And I guess, considering you’re using the progressive/socialist judges… dad gum… the girl’s a radical. By that same definition, so am I. And so are most the conservatives you know, I guess. Wow… I’m “fringe”. Who woulda thunk it?
Well, now Cent… therein lies the quandry. “who else would they vote for, indeed”. I’ve oft said I don’t have a dog in this race. McCain was my less of two evils choice, and he redeemed himself only a tad in his final weeks… with picking Palin, and with initially standing up against the bailout on behalf of the majority of the American people. But he caved on the latter. And, unfortunately, like Bush, he tends to pick bad mouthpieces.
He missed the import of the Obama/Ayers connection being all about education and not Ayers past terrorism (not that his past is a plus). He missed the boat on the economy. He should have backed the American people’s opinion on the bailout. It would have passed without his support. But he would have joined the very few Congressional members that actually listen to their constituents, and aren’t pompous enough to assume they know more than we do.
Obama? He never moved to the middle. He became a left fringe “maverick” by staying on point with the “spread the wealth” message to the end. McCain was a weak version of Obama’s liberalism, alienating the conservatives. And ya know, he was supposed to be the *conservative candidate*. You and I disagree on a few things, but generally we are both more conservative than progressive/socialist. There are varying degrees in the GOP, just like in the DNC. Palin was that balancing factor.
Which brings me to the “therein lies the quandry”. I have a northern Cal friend who’s befuddled that his all GOP county voted in a seriously hard core Republican for the CA Congress, then turned around and voted Obama for President. Why is that, do you think?
I’ve been running that thru my mind all day. And I think I stumbled on my own answer via Mike’s Winston thread, discussing campaign money. And that is, voters were bribed. Obama promised cash to the lower income in exchange for their votes…. in essence, he spent nothing, but offered an Obama IOU, backed by the Taxpayer Bank of America.
McCain’s spending plans were not much less than Obama’s for national debt, however they were constructed to allow wealth creation – meaning businesses had more equity to expand.
This brings is back to why you thought McCain’s numbers started tanking… erroneously attributing them to Palin and not the economy.
To paraphrase the bald headed one… “it’s the economy, stupid”. If you were going to add to the national debt somewhat equally to the DNC big spender, did you want govt giveaways to you as a safety net? Or did you want a business tax advantage?
That would all depend on if you are an employee, or an employer.
Which means that GOP county was less “conservative” in the base of self responsibility, and more “progressive socialist” that – if McCain’s going to spend similar to Obama – may as well take the promises that it will end up in their wallet. McCain abandoned less government and less spending… the heart of the GOP that has been mutilated for over a decade.
Did I make that clear? Just got back from doing battle with city hall… literally… over a sewer district and unbelievably stupid engineering plans regarding my property. ugh!
I find myself in the same boat for not only politics, but new products. If I like ’em? They stop making ’em….
Wow, you’re a clever one Craig. Thanks for adding so much to the discussion. Please feel free to make fun of my mother next. That would be awesome.
So Craig, you wanted Fred Thompson – who won what – one state in the primary? Did he win anything? So he lost. Now whom do you support? Nobody – you just sit and bitch? Nice. Just continue to sit and bitch and maybe one day a right wing extremist will make it through the primary process and you can watch them go down in flames in the general. Very Productive.
Mata, I understand your point. But I disagree. I don’t think I could really add much more to what I have already written. Those independents had two real choices and like Rush said, we won less than 4 in 10. That was the problem. Not energizing the base, which is the only thing that Palin brought to the ticket.
And FYI – for my wife it is television shows. Her favorite ever? Freaks and Geeks. Yea it lasted about two years.