There was a member here who made the connection between Obama and Moses before this ad showed up. Who was it?
Dave Noble
17 years ago
John McCain is going to have a tough time in the Presidential debates, if the best he has is:
“Oh, yeah you think you’re so cool. You think you’re the One. You’re just like Britney and Paris, that’s what you are.”
What is this? “Mean Girls”?
This is pathetic and shameful. Just when I thought our political discourse couldn’t sink any lower, JSM lowers the bar. So much for the “respectful” campaign. It’s sad to see what desperation drives some people to.
BTW, a McCain campaign spokesperson justified the dumb blond ad by saying that BHO, Brit, and Paris were the top three celebrities in the world. I checked the Forbes 100 of International Celebrities, for what it was worth (admittedly very little). Paris was 56. I couldn’t find Britney on the list. But Rush was 32. Maybe they should have put Rush and Paris in the ad instead of Brit.
As Elvis Costello sings “I use to be disgusted, now I’m just amused.”
Debates Dave Hussein Noble? What debates? I don’t see no stinkin debates?
I do note that McCain challenged your man to a series of town hall meetings, Obama initially agreed but then, “uh, eh, er, ah…” changed his mind.
The more you Obama Weanies complain about these ads the more we’re going to run them.
Leah: I think Charles Krauthammer did the Moses-Obama comparison in a piece I linked to earlier.
DW 5000
17 years ago
Debates Dave Hussein Noble? What debates? I don’t see no stinkin debates?
Yeah, you’re right. There will probably not be any debates between now and November.
Dave Noble
17 years ago
DW,
For the first time in how many national election, the two candidates will not debate?
How do you figure?
Mike,
You better hope there are no debates. Because the slapfighting style that a once rightly respected candidate has now stooped to is not going to sell to the American public.
DW 5000
17 years ago
For the first time in how many national election, the two candidates will not debate?
How do you figure?
I guess I didn’t have my irony bullhorn turned up loud enough, Dave. Of course there will be debates. In Mike’s mind, though, since there haven’t been any as yet, there will, ipso facto, be no debates at all.
I’d be interested in knowing how many debates throughout our history have taken place between the major candidates before the conventions even happened. I’m guessing that it’s is a small number, though I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t know.
How low do you think the bar will be set for McCain? Will it be, “Hey, if he stays awake, he’s won”? Or maybe, “His Depends didn’t leak, so he’s the clear victor!!!”
Dave Hussein Noble: Perhaps you don’t recall these words:
“If John McCain wants to meet me anywhere, anytime, to have a debate about our respective policies in Iraq, in Iran, in the Middle East or around the world, that is a conversation I am happy to have,”
–Barack Hussein Obama, May 16, 2008
McCain challenged Obama to a series of ten Town Hall meetings and the only one Obama agreed to was in the evening of July 4th when no one would be paying attention.
What’s he afraid of? “uhhh….errrr….I,I,I…”
Sure, maybe we’ll have three of those idiotic League of Women Voter’s debates. That’s a formality that hardly offers the American people to get an early and thorough insight into what Obama REALLY stands for.
Again, what’s he afraid of?
wordsmith
17 years ago
Obama spokesman Hari Sevugan slammed the Web ad, saying the Arizona senator was “spending all of his time and the powerful platform he has on these sorts of juvenile antics.”
McCain insisted he was running a “respectful” campaign and brushed off complaints from critics and even some supporters that his tone had taken a sharply negative turn in recent days.
“I don’t think our campaign is negative in the slightest,” McCain said. “We think it’s got a lot of humor in it, we’re having fun and enjoying it … we’ll continue to fight and scrap all the way to November 4.”
Hell, yeah!
The Messiah…ah…..um…..uh….uh….takes himself far too seriously.
[/sense of humor]
John McCain is going to have a tough time in the Presidential debates, if the best he has is:
“Oh, yeah you think you’re so cool. You think you’re the One. You’re just like Britney and Paris, that’s what you are.”
What is this? “Mean Girls”?
This is pathetic and shameful. Just when I thought our political discourse couldn’t sink any lower, JSM lowers the bar. So much for the “respectful” campaign. It’s sad to see what desperation drives some people to.
BTW, a McCain campaign spokesperson justified the dumb blond ad by saying that BHO, Brit, and Paris were the top three celebrities in the world. I checked the Forbes 100 of International Celebrities, for what it was worth (admittedly very little). Paris was 56. I couldn’t find Britney on the list. But Rush was 32. Maybe they should have put Rush and Paris in the ad instead of Brit.
As Elvis Costello sings “I use to be disgusted, now I’m just amused.” [sense of humor]
Notice the link between Obama complaining about these ads and his lethargic poll numbers?
He complains about the ads because they work.
Dave Noble
17 years ago
DW,
Sorry I missed the irony, Bro. I’m looking forward to the debates.
Mike,
You know what, I think you’re right – they do work. History has shown that negative ads do work, certainly in the short term. They do so by appealing to the citizens’ base emotions, not to the better angels of their nature or their rationality. However, John McCain said he was going to run a respectful campaign. He has not. He has not shown integrity on this issue; he has not been a man of his word.
Did you see the ad Obama just put out attacking John McCain? Curt has it posted. Is Obama:
“appealing to the citizens’ base emotions, not to the better angels of their nature or their rationality. “
Is Obama running a “respectful” campaign with these attacks on McCain and George Bush?
Where’s Obama’s “integrity” or don’t you expect a Democrat to have any?
Is Obama a “man of his word” (campaign financing, debates, FISA, etc?)
You’re so full of it it’s almost funny!
Dave Noble
17 years ago
Wordsmith,
Once again we are down the rabbit hole here where words mean what we want them to. In that environment there is no communication and no rational discussion. Please look at the title of the post above. You cannot simultaneously “mock” someone and be “respectful” them.
Dave Noble
17 years ago
Wordsmith,
Here’s an apt and readily available example of the difference between respectful, rational debate and mocking rhetoric. You and I are having the former. That doesn’t mean there isn’t room for some sarcasm and hard-hitting criticism.
Mike,
All I ever see you do is mock, insult and SHOUT. Facts and logic sit on the bench while you send rhetoric out on the field.
DW 5000
17 years ago
Mike,
All I ever see you do is mock, insult and SHOUT. Facts and logic sit on the bench while you send rhetoric out on the field.
Amen. It’s hard to believe that MataHarley, Wordsmith and Scott can take him seriously. They must, or they’d give him the heave-ho.
It’s impossible to tell whether Mike actually knows anything at all, due to that fact that he spends all his time on spewing incessant ad homs and posting riduclous PhotoShops and waving Soviet flags.
Oh you two are a laugh riot. Attack me then claim that’s all I do. Neither of you would know a fact if it hit you in the face. If you expect everyone to treat your whacko delusions with the same reverance you have for yourselves then you are even nuttier than I thought.
I’ve noticed that everytime MataH, Wordsmith or Scott attempts to engage you in the indepth factual discussion you claim to crave they realize only after wasting minutes of their precious time what an impossiblity that is.
Besides, I’ll be glad to poll the readers here any day and let them decide who is more reality based: Me or the two of you.
You two started this fight and I am ending it. And now, if you cannot stick to the topic at hand and persist in these personal attacks you’ll find me hitting the delete key when your next comment comes in.
There was a member here who made the connection between Obama and Moses before this ad showed up. Who was it?
John McCain is going to have a tough time in the Presidential debates, if the best he has is:
“Oh, yeah you think you’re so cool. You think you’re the One. You’re just like Britney and Paris, that’s what you are.”
What is this? “Mean Girls”?
This is pathetic and shameful. Just when I thought our political discourse couldn’t sink any lower, JSM lowers the bar. So much for the “respectful” campaign. It’s sad to see what desperation drives some people to.
BTW, a McCain campaign spokesperson justified the dumb blond ad by saying that BHO, Brit, and Paris were the top three celebrities in the world. I checked the Forbes 100 of International Celebrities, for what it was worth (admittedly very little). Paris was 56. I couldn’t find Britney on the list. But Rush was 32. Maybe they should have put Rush and Paris in the ad instead of Brit.
As Elvis Costello sings “I use to be disgusted, now I’m just amused.”
Debates Dave Hussein Noble? What debates? I don’t see no stinkin debates?
I do note that McCain challenged your man to a series of town hall meetings, Obama initially agreed but then, “uh, eh, er, ah…” changed his mind.
The more you Obama Weanies complain about these ads the more we’re going to run them.
Leah: I think Charles Krauthammer did the Moses-Obama comparison in a piece I linked to earlier.
Yeah, you’re right. There will probably not be any debates between now and November.
DW,
For the first time in how many national election, the two candidates will not debate?
How do you figure?
Mike,
You better hope there are no debates. Because the slapfighting style that a once rightly respected candidate has now stooped to is not going to sell to the American public.
I guess I didn’t have my irony bullhorn turned up loud enough, Dave. Of course there will be debates. In Mike’s mind, though, since there haven’t been any as yet, there will, ipso facto, be no debates at all.
I’d be interested in knowing how many debates throughout our history have taken place between the major candidates before the conventions even happened. I’m guessing that it’s is a small number, though I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t know.
How low do you think the bar will be set for McCain? Will it be, “Hey, if he stays awake, he’s won”? Or maybe, “His Depends didn’t leak, so he’s the clear victor!!!”
Dave Hussein Noble: Perhaps you don’t recall these words:
McCain challenged Obama to a series of ten Town Hall meetings and the only one Obama agreed to was in the evening of July 4th when no one would be paying attention.
What’s he afraid of? “uhhh….errrr….I,I,I…”
Sure, maybe we’ll have three of those idiotic League of Women Voter’s debates. That’s a formality that hardly offers the American people to get an early and thorough insight into what Obama REALLY stands for.
Again, what’s he afraid of?
Hell, yeah!
The Messiah…ah…..um…..uh….uh….takes himself far too seriously.
Notice the link between Obama complaining about these ads and his lethargic poll numbers?
He complains about the ads because they work.
DW,
Sorry I missed the irony, Bro. I’m looking forward to the debates.
Mike,
You know what, I think you’re right – they do work. History has shown that negative ads do work, certainly in the short term. They do so by appealing to the citizens’ base emotions, not to the better angels of their nature or their rationality. However, John McCain said he was going to run a respectful campaign. He has not. He has not shown integrity on this issue; he has not been a man of his word.
So Dave Hussein Noble:
Did you see the ad Obama just put out attacking John McCain? Curt has it posted. Is Obama:
“appealing to the citizens’ base emotions, not to the better angels of their nature or their rationality. “
Is Obama running a “respectful” campaign with these attacks on McCain and George Bush?
Where’s Obama’s “integrity” or don’t you expect a Democrat to have any?
Is Obama a “man of his word” (campaign financing, debates, FISA, etc?)
You’re so full of it it’s almost funny!
Wordsmith,
Once again we are down the rabbit hole here where words mean what we want them to. In that environment there is no communication and no rational discussion. Please look at the title of the post above. You cannot simultaneously “mock” someone and be “respectful” them.
Wordsmith,
Here’s an apt and readily available example of the difference between respectful, rational debate and mocking rhetoric. You and I are having the former. That doesn’t mean there isn’t room for some sarcasm and hard-hitting criticism.
Mike,
All I ever see you do is mock, insult and SHOUT. Facts and logic sit on the bench while you send rhetoric out on the field.
Amen. It’s hard to believe that MataHarley, Wordsmith and Scott can take him seriously. They must, or they’d give him the heave-ho.
It’s impossible to tell whether Mike actually knows anything at all, due to that fact that he spends all his time on spewing incessant ad homs and posting riduclous PhotoShops and waving Soviet flags.
Oh you two are a laugh riot. Attack me then claim that’s all I do. Neither of you would know a fact if it hit you in the face. If you expect everyone to treat your whacko delusions with the same reverance you have for yourselves then you are even nuttier than I thought.
I’ve noticed that everytime MataH, Wordsmith or Scott attempts to engage you in the indepth factual discussion you claim to crave they realize only after wasting minutes of their precious time what an impossiblity that is.
Besides, I’ll be glad to poll the readers here any day and let them decide who is more reality based: Me or the two of you.
You two started this fight and I am ending it. And now, if you cannot stick to the topic at hand and persist in these personal attacks you’ll find me hitting the delete key when your next comment comes in.
Is that clear comrades?