The Clinton Leaf Experience


The Clintons are something else huh

“During a campaign swing for his wife, former President
Bill Clinton said flatly yesterday that he opposed the war in Iraq
“from the beginning” — a statement that is more absolute than his
comments before the invasion in March 2003.

Before the invasion, Mr. Clinton did not precisely declare that he
opposed the war. A week before military action began, however, he did
say that he preferred to give weapons inspections more time and that an
invasion was not necessary to topple Saddam Hussein.

At the same time, he also spoke supportively about the 2002 Senate resolution that authorized military action against Iraq.

Advisers to Mr. Clinton said yesterday that he did oppose the war,
but that it would have been inappropriate at the time for him, a former
president, to oppose — in a direct, full-throated manner — the sitting
president’s military decision.

Mr. Clinton has said several times since the war began that he would
not have attacked Iraq in the manner that President Bush had done. As
early as June 2004, he said, “I would not have done it until after Hans
Blix finished the job,” referring to the weapons inspections there
before the war.”

But Bill, Did you not make it the position of the United States that regime change in Iraq needs to happen?

Can this family ever come out with a position on a subject and not change it with the winds of the polls. 

Because this is what its all about

Former President Clinton has revealed that he continues
to support President Bush’s decision to go to war in Iraq
but chastised
the administration over the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison.

“I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the
left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N.
inspections were over,” Clinton said in a Time magazine interview that
will hit newsstands Monday, a day before the publication of his book
“My Life.”

Oh, I forgot, he really opposed it but he didn’t want to step on the President’s toes three years after getting elected.  One more year and he would have no problem doing it but not in 2004.


We all know what this all about.  Back in 2004 the war was supported by a majority of Americans.  So if the polls show the majority supports it a Clinton will support it.  When it dips a Clinton will oppose it. 

Always ruling like a leaf in the wind.  Whichever way the polls skew.

Meanwhile his wife wants us to believe she actually opposed the war back then when she was pulling the lever to support it.

Is your head spinning yet?

Some great quotes from Captain’s Quarters:

“So, you’re sitting there as President, you’re reeling in the aftermath
of [September 11], so, yeah, you want to go get bin Laden and do
Afghanistan and all that. But you also have to say, well, my first
responsibility now is to try everything possible to make sure that this
terrorist network and other terrorist networks cannot reach chemical
and biological weapons or small amounts of fissile material. I’ve got
to do that. That’s why I supported the Iraq thing.” (“His Side Of The Story,” Time, 6/28/04)

“‘Saddam is gone and good riddance,’ former President Bill Clinton
said yesterday. Clinton also said Bush should not be faulted if banned
weapons of mass destruction aren’t found. ‘I don’t think you can
criticize the President for trying to act on the belief that they have
a substantial amount of chemical and biological stock. … That is what I was always told.‘” (Joel Siegel, “W Fought A Good Fight, Clinton Says,” [New York] Daily News, 4/16/03)

“I supported the president when he asked the Congress for authority
to stand up against weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.” (Former
President Bill Clinton, Remarks At Tougaloo College Commencement,
Jackson, MS, 5/18/03)

Just imagine having this family back in the Oval Office.  Bending like a leaf for whatever position will make the people like them.  What a cowardly family.

Meanwhile Mary Katherine Ham gives us another quote from a recent speech:

“That’ll require people like me, who got five tax cuts that I should
not have gotten, in my income group, when we had soldiers in
Afghanistan and Iraq. Even though I approved of Afghanistan and opposed
Iraq from the beginning, I still resent that I was not asked or given the opportunity to support those soldiers.”

Truly a lefty can only say, “force me to support the war by forcing me to pay more taxes!”


Nevermind that the war is costing us 1% of the GDP and that the total defense spending of this nation is 4%.  Which means there is NO NEED to raise taxes and hurt this economy.  No, a true lefty wants the redistribution of wealth dammit!  Force it on me brother!

Lastly I just had to put up this quote from OneCosmos about the logic of the left which fits this new Clinton news nicely: (h/t Dr. Sanity)

This is one of the reasons that the left habitually attacks motives instead
of substance, for they first undermine the idea that you can know
anything objectively, and then insist that the purpose of knowledge is
domination and oppression anyway. For the last several years, “job one”
of of the left has been to make us doubtful of our aims in Iraq, in the
hope that we will simply become demoralized and surrender.

they do this so selectively that it is mind-boggling. For example,
surely there was more credible evidence that Saddam had WMD than that
the earth is undergoing catastrophic manmade warming. But in both
cases, their main argument is that people who disagree with them have
venal motives. In the case of President Bush, he really wanted to
invade Iraq because he thought it would somehow enrich his already
wealthy “friends.” And in the case of global warming, those who reject
the theory are simply on the payroll of Bush’s wealthy friends. So for
all practical purposes, humility is not possible on the left, since
their conspiratorial form of thought means that they always have the
answer. And it sounds humble to the stupid, since they are always
opposed to the intrinsically racist-sexist-homophobic America.

just as the left engages in the moral inversion of detaching virtue
from tradition, they engage in a weird “cognitive conversion” that
combines “intellectual helplessness” with a kind of monstrously
arrogant omniscience. This is how you can spend some $100,000 plus on
an elite university education, only to learn that truth doesn’t exist and we possess it.


Newsbusters tells us that CBS and NBC ignored the Clintons latest flip-flop.  Which is not too shocking since the MSM are great pals with the Clintons.  What is surprising is that ABC called him on it:

Wednesday’s editions of the CBS “Early Show” and NBC’s “Today” show both ignored
Bill Clinton’s incredible assertion on Tuesday that he opposed
the Iraq war from its inception. Only “Good Morning America” correspondent Jake
Tapper pointed out the obvious fact that Clinton was no vocal critic of the
military action. Filing a report on the subject, Tapper incredulously wondered,
Bill Clinton opposed the war in Iraq from the beginning?”

After acknowledging that the ex-President did call for the U.N. weapons
inspectors to have more time, Tapper clarified the record: “…[Bill Clinton]
was hardly, at least publicly, an opponent of going to war against Saddam

But wait for it.  Another twisted explanation for the flip-flop will be coming shortly from the Clintons.

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Leftist Quotes on Iraq

To add fuel to the fire.

“Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price.”

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
September 13, 2001

“In the next century, the community of nations may see more and more the very kind of threat Iraq poses now — a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction ready to use them or provide them to terrorists, drug traffickers or organized criminals who travel the world among us unnoticed.

If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United Nations Security Council and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program.”

President Clinton
Address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff
February 17, 1998

“People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons.”

Former President Clinton
During an interview on CNN’s “Larry King Live”
July 22, 2003

“The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world.
The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government — a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people.”

President Clinton
Oval Office Address to the American People
December 16, 1998

“His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of his region, and the security of all the rest of us.

What if he fails to comply, and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made?

Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction.

And some day, some way, I guarantee you, he’ll use the arsenal.”

President Clinton
Address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff
February 17, 1998

“We must exercise responsibility not just at home, but around the world. On the eve of a new century, we have the power and the duty to build a new era of peace and security.

We must combat an unholy axis of new threats from terrorists, international criminals, and drug traffickers. These 21st century predators feed on technology and the free flow of information… And they will be all the more lethal if weapons of mass destruction fall into their hands.

Together, we must confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons and the outlaw states, terrorists, and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation’s wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them.”

President Clinton
State of the Union address
January 27, 1998

“I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over,” Clinton said in a Time magazine interview that will hit newsstands Monday, a day before the publication of his book “My Life.”

Really? What did Blix say in 2003?

“The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.

13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes.”

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003

“The recent inspection find in the private home of a scientist of a box of some 3,000 pages of documents, much of it relating to the laser enrichment of uranium support a concern that has long existed that documents might be distributed to the homes of private individuals. …we cannot help but think that the case might not be isolated and that such placements of documents is deliberate to make discovery difficult and to seek to shield documents by placing them in private homes.”

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003

“I have mentioned the issue of anthrax to the Council on previous occasions and I come back to it as it is an important one.

Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 litres of this biological warfare agent, which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991. Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no convincing evidence for its destruction.

There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991.”

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003

Note that these statements were made 12 YEARS after Iraq agreed to a cease fire. 12 YEARS of insepctions later. 12 YEARS for Saddam to disarm. 12 YEARS where Saddam not only failed to disarm, but actually rebuilt his land forces and aquired several high-tech systems including new centrifuge parts, bio agent labs, conduced live HUMAN tests on political prisoners, and several other flagrant violations of the cease-fire and human rights laws.

No less than Harry Reid said this (before he started pandering to the leftist base and “The Base”):

“We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict.”

Senator Harry Reid (Democrat, Nevada)
Addressing the US Senate
October 9, 2002
Congressional Record, p. S10145

It all depends on what the “meaning of the word ‘is’ is.”

As you can see, the Clintons’ ability to form a subjective reality is alive and well.

As it is with their supporters.

Oh yeah, my head is spinning so bad I feel like I just went through an exorcism.

Seriously, how can anyone buy any of the Clinton Bullcrap when Clinton himself signed into law The Iraq Liberation Act as the law of the land in 1998?

And why is this never thrown in Hillary’s face at debates?

Was Slick Willie a cheerleader in high school? He sure can do the cartwheels (or flip flops). Actually he’s the biggest liar and con man to ever appear in public and the American people as a whole are too stupid to figure it out.

Totally agree with this post except for one line “if the polls show the majority supports it a Clinton will support it. When it dips a Clinton will oppose it.” While yes she will continue to do that while campaigning if God forbid she is elected she won’t be as poll driven as Bill. All Bill cared about was being liked. Hillary is a true believer in all the left wing junk and will push through every item on their agenda as hard as possible. That is why the whole 3rd party support for another candidate if Rudy is the nominee is dangerous when they use the justification that we survived one Clinton we can survive another. She will be WAY worse and now is not the time, post 9-11, that we can afford it.

Actually that is an excellent point Cajun. She will be more dangerous because she really believes in her Socialism while Billy was all about popularity and getting the hot chicks.

Not Exactly Breaking News

Bill Clinton told a fib. Stop the presses! ____________________________________ Update: If you really want the gory details, here they are.