22 Apr

MSNBC host and Montana Governor play the “Mormonism” card

MSNBC host condemns Romney to Hell
By Byron York

Republicans wondering whether Mitt Romney’s political adversaries will use Mormonism against him got yet another answer to their question Thursday when MSNBC host Martin Bashir read from Mormon scriptures to condemn Romney to damnation for “lying” about Barack Obama’s jobs record.

Bashir was discussing Romney’s oft-stated accusation that the president promised the stimulus would keep unemployment below eight percent. In fact, top officials of the incoming Obama administration, not Obama himself, made that predication not long before Inauguration Day. Attributing the position to Obama, Bashir said, is a lie worthy of eternal damnation.

“Which brings us to the moral codes of Mormonism that Mr. Romney claims to live by,” Bashir continued:

In section 63 in verse 17 of the doctrine and covenants of the Mormon Church, we find this: “All liars, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie, and the whoremonger and the sorcerer, shall have their part in that lake which burneth with fire and brimstone which is the second death.”

And from the book of Mormon to Nephi chapter two verse 34 we find this: “Woe unto the liar for he shall be thrust down to hell.”

Given what the book of Mormon is clearly saying, Mr. Romney has but two choices: he can either keep lying and potentially win the White House but bring eternal damnation upon himself, or he can start telling the truth. The question for him, I guess, is which is more important?

Bashir’s sermon wasn’t the only Mormon-related message coming from Democrats and their allies in the press. That same day, Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer said Romney’s family “came from a polygamy commune in Mexico.” “I am not alleging by any stretch that Romney is a polygamist and approves of [the] polygamy lifestyle,” Schweitzer told the Daily Beast, “but his father was born into [a] polygamy commune in Mexico.”

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About MataHarley

Vietnam era Navy wife, indy/conservative, and an official California escapee now residing as a red speck in the sea of Oregon blue.

11 Responses to MSNBC host and Montana Governor play the “Mormonism” card

  1. mossomo says: 1

    Let them try to play the polygamist card. They can attempt to project that on Romney all they want. Message fail. Because its a matter of fact that Obama’s father, grand father and great grand father were all practicing polygamists, and don’t forget to mention Obama’s mother was a minor when he was conceived. From the WaPost:

    His [Obama's] great-grandfather, Obama Opiyo, had five wives, including two who were sisters. His grandfather, Hussein Onyango, had at least four wives, one of whom, Akumu, gave birth to the president’s father, Barack Obama” before fleeing her abusive husband. Obama Sr. was already married when he left Kenya to study at the University of Hawaii, where he married again. His American wife-to-be, Stanley Ann Dunham, was not yet 18 and unaware of his marital situation when she became pregnant with his namesake son in 1961.

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  2. Richard Wheeler says: 2

    Mossomo “Let them play the Mormonism card” It’s the evangelical right of the Repub. Party that’s been playing the card against Romney for years. Beat him in 08 and went with Santorum in this primary.
    Their support for Mitt in General Election will be tepid at best. It will still be warmer than Mata’s.

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  3. Nan G says: 3

    When I compare the way Obama’s Black Liberation theologians want the world now to be vs the way Romney’s Church of the Latter Day Saints wants the world now to be, Romney’s church wins in a landslide.
    What is the comparison of each group as to national income, whole family units, educational status, etc.?

    Think of the stirring of the pot that Wright and Sharpton and Jackson have all done in recent history.

    Now compare that with what Mormons have done.
    Clean roads all through Utah.
    Sweet people.
    Businesses that thrive and serve people of all colors and backgrounds.

    The fact that each man has come from a background where polygamy was common has little-to-nothing to do with either man’s views and standards today.

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  4. Nan G.
    SUPERBLY INTELLIGENT, NOTHING TO ADD TO THAT,
    THANK YOU FOR THE JEWEL

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  5. HOW ABOUT THE GREAT MORMON TABERNACLE WHOLE GROUP SIGNING AMERICA MANY BEAUTIFUL SONGS, NON SURPASSED YET , FOR THE AW THEY SEND TO ANY AMERICANS LISTENING AND TO THE WHOLE WORLD,
    if that is not praising AMERICA, NOTHING IS.
    MATA GIVE US ONE OF THEM HERE, IT’S SO APPROPRIATE,
    LET BASHIR FIGHT WITH HELL HIMSELF ON HIS OWN,

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  6. Jared Held says: 6

    funny how people who aren’t a Mormon think that Romney follows the leaders of the LDS church..

    I’m an active Mormon living in California and i went to Brigham Young University.. I am a member of the Sunday School presidency for my ward(congregation)..

    Romney fails to follow the teachings of Prophet Spencer W. Kimball.

    From a First Presidency Message
    The False Gods We Worship
    By President Spencer W. Kimball

    which can be found at http://www.lds.org/ensign/1976/06/the-false-gods-we-worship?lang=eng

    TO quote:
    “We are a warlike people, easily distracted from our assignment of preparing for the coming of the Lord. When enemies rise up, we commit vast resources to the fabrication of gods of stone and steel—ships, planes, missiles, fortifications—and depend on them for protection and deliverance. When threatened, we become antienemy instead of pro-kingdom of God; we train a man in the art of war and call him a patriot, thus, in the manner of Satan’s counterfeit of true patriotism, perverting the Savior’s teaching:
    “Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
    “That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven.” (Matt. 5:44–45.)
    We forget that if we are righteous the Lord will either not suffer our enemies to come upon us—and this is the special promise to the inhabitants of the land of the Americas (see 2 Ne. 1:7)—or he will fight our battles for us (Ex. 14:14; D&C 98:37, to name only two references of many). This he is able to do, for as he said at the time of his betrayal, “Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?” (Matt. 26:53.) We can imagine what fearsome soldiers they would be. King Jehoshaphat and his people were delivered by such a troop (see 2 Chr. 20), and when Elisha’s life was threatened, he comforted his servant by saying, “Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them” (2 Kgs. 6:16). The Lord then opened the eyes of the servant, “And he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.” (2 Kgs. 6:17.)”

    And there are more areas which Romney doesn’t follow the churches teachings..

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  7. Jared Held
    aren’t you showing jealousy over MITT ROMNEY, BY SPEAKING ILL OF HIM IN YOUR COMMENT?
    I have read in the BIBLE a long time ago, some words which go similar to this;
    you see the hair in someone else eye, and miss the straw in your eye,
    the timing to hurt a CANDIDATE WHICH IS ALMOST THE CHOSEN ONE, is not wise if you
    claim to use the book on him, maybe you can use the same words on you first.
    and it fit perfectly,

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  8. Jared Held says: 8

    ilovebeeswarzone;

    NO, I’m not judging him that belongs to Christ at the day of judgement..

    Just pointing out that someone who claims to be a good Mormon and doesn’t follow its teaching gives an example of the type of individual one might be in a secular setting..

    IF what you are saying would be true then anyone who had to make a choice of people in hiring and checking the background of the candidate in a job hire would be guilty also..

    We the People have a God given right as sovereigns to determine the type of people we will elect as our public servants and how they obey their own religion which they claim they have to answer to God for their actions, only shows what moral character they have when they have to answer to man in the secular world…

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  9. Jared Held
    yes of course, but you know that we human are not perfect but is we strive to do the best and take on difficult task to fight the ones hurting other, is showing an exeptional gift and love for his country, he is smart enough to know in what position he will inherit the presidency, and still is going for it, and it’s not for the money, because he has it, so we have to appreciate the qualitys which are far outstanding the fault you attribute to him as a member of the same religion,
    could it be that you are only focusing on the negatives,

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  10. Jared Held says: 10

    Okay lets look at who is his top 6 contributors are.

    FROM: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00000286

    Goldman Sachs $564,580
    JPMorgan Chase & Co $400,675
    Bank of America $364,850
    Morgan Stanley $363,550
    Credit Suisse Group $316,160
    Citigroup Inc $286,015

    We can go to Opensecrets.org again and see he has taken more money from lobbyist the then all the other GOP candidates combined…
    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/select.php?ind=K02

    And to call Mitt Romney a leader when he has flip flopped so many times.. And there is his Socialist Romneycare which was used as a model for Obamacare..

    Romney is a RINO, his father and political mentor had ties to Saul Alinsky, Mitt is endorsed by George Soros.

    He claims he is a conservative yet he has also stated that his ideas are progressive.

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  11. Jared Held
    okay, is he better situated to create JOBS FOR AMERICA, WITH ALL THIS MONEY
    SUPPORTING HIM, is it that negative? compare with the false promises which is given to AMERICANS
    in the last years which has been only words, are you a CONSERVATIVE OR A DEMOCRAT?
    at this time is in it to late to come back with the same vetting, which I heard before, and did not stop his climbing to the top. the main thing is he will stop OBAMA FROM DOING MORE COMMUNIST CLIMBING ON HIS SIDE, AND HE WILL HAVE GOOD BACKING,
    THE MONEY GIANTS ARE NOT AS BAD AS THE DEMOCRATS AND OBAMA WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE,
    ON THE CONTRARY THEY WILL HIRE AGAIN, AND GET THE WHEEL ROLLING, BETTER THAN WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING , THAT IS HIRING ON THE BACK POCKET OF THE PEOPLE,
    INSTEAD OF THE WALL STREET TAKING HIS OWN MONEY TO CREATE JOBS NOT ON THE BACK OF THE PEOPLE.
    BEST TO YOU

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