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obama as alinsky

No one noticed. But I did.

Back in 2008 Barack Obama said

“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cqN4NIEtOY[/youtube]

Then when confronted Obama denied it:

O’Reilly: OK. I got a letter from Kathy LaMaster, Fresno, Calif. I said I would read one letter from the folks, all right?

Obama: All right.

O’Reilly: “Mr. President, why do you feel it’s necessary to fundamentally transform the nation that has afforded you so much opportunity and success?”

Obama: I don’t think we have to fundamentally transform the nation.

Yes, you do, you liar.

The Obama worshipping minions of Politifact couldn’t figure out what Obama meant by “fundamentally transform” the US.

We decided that we couldn’t put this statement to the Truth-O-Meter, since the definition of “fundamentally transform” is too vague.

So let’s help.

Fundamental:

2. of, relating to, or affecting the foundation or basis:
“a fundamental revision.”

Transform:

1. to change in form, appearance, or structure; metamorphose.

2. to change in condition, nature, or character; convert.

3. to change into another substance; transmute.

By definition what Obama said was that he wanted to change the foundation of the country. This country is fundamentally a democratic republic and that is what Obama wants to change. The Obama sycophants at Politifact are so heavily burdened with bias that they were unwilling to be honest.

Let’s now jump ahead to Obama’s SOTU 2015:

Fifteen years into this new century, we have picked ourselves up, dusted ourselves off and begun again the work of remaking America.

There it was again. When he was sure everyone stopped paying attention he let it fly.

Remake:

1. to make again or anew.

He said we needed to fundamentally transform America, then denied it, then said again that we need to do “remake” America.

For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone believes anything that liar says. One cannot ever forget that Obama was steeped in Alinskyism:

“A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage — the political paradise of communism.”

That pretty much sums it up. Any denials on the part of Obama or his water carriers will only offer concrete proof that this is absolutely accurate. (DrJohn’s Law)

Obama:

“In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor.”

Ever stop and ask yourself what that means? Ever ask yourself what it means when everyone fares equally despite disparate investment in education and effort?

From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs. I’ve heard this somewhere before.

The election (twice) of Barack Obama could either be a learning experience or the beginning of the end of the US as a democratic republic.

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Obama:

“In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor.”

Yet, in 6+ years all Obama has managed to do is hurt the middle class, destroy jobs creation opportunities, shrink the economy, make many more dependent on government, enrich the CEOs hurt the secretaries and janitors, help some selective factory owners and hurt most of those on the factory floor.

Still, when he says such lies, the Left and his low-info supporters believe his words instead of his deeds.
To the extent any of his words seem true was over his dead body, so to speak, as Republicans ended his 99-weeks unemployment extensions and the nation’s long-term unemployed found jobs, as Private Entrepreurs started fracking on private lands, as Small Businesses ignored his Davis-Bacon demands for high wages and accepted jobs in exchange for the gov’t rebates as payment in full, as Large Businesses reinvested by paying down their own debts instead of expanding, as State Governments had to spend for ObamaCare, and so on.

Ironically Obama takes credit for all these bottom-line improvements even though his own policies opposed every one of them.

Being naturally lazy, I don’t think Obama has the stamina nor the capacity to unmake America as a republic and replace it with a leftist dictatorship. He has however –
Destroyed the world’s best healthcare system.
Provided taxpayer-funded abortion on demand.
Opened the door to gay marriage and LGBT “rights”, and generally decimated American moral standards.
Divided the country by race, gender, and social class, and set them against each other.
Greatly increased the poverty in America, making nearly half of the country dependent on government handouts.
Increased annual spending on a vastly growing government bureaucracy by over $1 trillion a year. Increased the national debt from $3 trillion to $18 trillion.
Granted amnesty to 5 million illegal aliens.
Weaponized the IRS, EPA, NSA and other government agencies to target citizens of the US, i.e., his “enemies”.
Supported terrorist groups in Lybia, Syria, and Egypt against our allies, while attempting to destroy our greatest ally, Israel.
Initiated the attempted global Jihad of “Arab Spring”, killed our Lybian ambassador and two SEALs while smuggling weapons to our enemies, is enabling Iran to become a nuclear power, and then has the gall to proclaim “global warming” as our greatest threat.

He has two more years to continue to bring down our country from within. The forth quarter has just started, and team Obama keeps spiking the ball in the end zone

I’ve used this quote before – this post reminds me of the best line from The Dark Knight. It was actually from the Scarecrow getting called out on some bad drugs he had distributed, “Buyer beware. I told you my compound would take you places – I never said they’d be places you wanted to go”

What was the state of the U.S. economy only 5 days before the 2008 election? How was the future looking at that point?

@Greg:

What was the state of the U.S. economy only 5 days before the 2008 election

?

The American labor force participation rate was at 66%. Five days before the 2012 election that same labor force participation rate was at 63.6%. Now it is at 62.7%, a low not seen since December, 1977.

But according to Gullible Greggie, things are just going along swimmingly.

@retire05: Does swimmingly mean the economy is “in the tank”?

@retire05, #5:

The labor participation rate has to do with demographics as much as with the state of the economy. Thanks to aging Baby Boomers and increased life expectancy, the nation has one of the highest percentages of people of retirement age in its entire history. And of course people who live off of their investments aren’t part of the labor force. I would think you would approve the increasing number of such people who don’t work for a living.

Anyone who can’t grasp the fact that the economy was going to hell in a handbag through 2008 but has subsequently improved enormously isn’t really in touch with reality.

@Greg:

The labor participation rate has to do with demographics as much as with the state of the economy.

Which only shows how bogus the Obama unemployment rates are. In a good economy, the labor participation rate remains stable, in spite of population increases. BLS stats prove that. But our population has grown by almost 14 million just under Obama alone and his administration has not created an economic atmosphere that compensates for that growth, hence, the lower labor participation rate. Between 1988 and 2008, in spite of massive immigration, our labor participation remain remained stable at around 66%. And you can’t explain that away, Gullible Greggie, although I know you will try.

Thanks to aging Baby Boomers and increased life expectancy, the nation has one of the highest percentages of people of retirement age in its entire history.

The boomers were born between ’46 and ’64. There were 76.4 million of them, but by 2012, 11.2 million of them had died. Of the remaining boomers, 68% were still in the work force in 2012. And it stands to reason as our population grows, so grows the number of retired. Nice try; no cigar.

@retire05:

Nice try; no cigar.

Maybe a Bill Clinton Cigar?

Presumably you’re aware that there are also record numbers of older Americans who aren’t Baby Boomers. Baby Boomers have older relatives.

@Greg#7. 55 People applying for ONE job in December 2014 is NOT a robust or even ‘inching ‘ toward a robust economy. You cannot be that far removed from reality. Um. well…
maybe ‘you’ can be…..

Allow me to repeat:

Anyone who can’t grasp the fact that the economy was going to hell in a handbag through 2008 but has subsequently improved enormously isn’t really in touch with reality.

@Greg:

but has subsequently improved enormously isn’t really in touch with reality.

you are clearly beyond help

@Greg:

Anyone who can’t grasp the fact that the economy was going to hell in a handbag through 2008 but has subsequently improved enormously isn’t really in touch with reality.

Annual deficits increased over $1 trillion annually, national debt increased by $15 Trillion. In six years, we still haven’t recovered, with unemployment and poverty at the highest numbers in history. And our healthcare insurance is now unaffordable and the availability of healthcare has been degraded. What’s to complain about?

Aside from the economy, our foreign policy is in shambles. We have alienated allies and supported enemies. Obama is about to allow a radical Islamic country which thinks we are the Great Satan have nuclear weapons with the ICBMs capable of reaching our cities. Our government is now our enemy, with citizens targeted and spied on by the IRS and NSA.

Obama’s reign has been a complete and total disaster and plague on America, a toxic cocktail of evil mixed with incompetence.

@Greg:

Anyone who thinks that a near doubling of people on foodstamps and a decrease in the median annual income represents an improved economy isn’t in touch with reality.

I think Greg escaped from an early Jack Nicolson movie that concerns the residence of a bird and someone flying.

Greg:
In 2013 Republicans ended Obama’s 99-weeks unemployment extensions and the nation’s long-term unemployed found jobs.
This is the MAIN reason the jobs numbers began INCHING upward.
Still too many are part-time (30 hours/week or less) jobs.

@retire05: This has been disproven here a number of times before. Some people just keep repeating the same lies over and over again thinking everyone else is too stupid to catch on. A sure sign of arrogance. The labor force participation rate has INCREASED for those 55 and older while it has DECREASED for everyone else. Everyone who posts here should reference this link for the next time the same lie pops up.

http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm

@Greg:

Anyone who can’t grasp the fact that the economy was going to hell in a handbag through 2008 but has subsequently improved enormously isn’t really in touch with reality.

Besides the $18 trillion national debt, what else has gotten enormous since the Great and Wonderful Obama took office?

I don’t claim Obama to be Great and Wonderful. I’m only denying the right’s unceasing bullshit assertions that he’s the worst president of all time, if not the devil incarnate.

One fundamental problem with the political right is that they recognize no middle ground in connection with anything.

@Greg: He told America that if you liked your health and/or doctor you can keep them “period”!! He won the election on a lie and that’s why the Legislature now belongs to Republicans in two historic elections!! Let’s see what our economy looks like when he leaves office!! Which President carried 49 out of 50 states Greggie??

@Greg: And Democrats including yourself still blame Bush for any and all ills of our!! The problem with liberal wackos like you is that you refuse to take any responsibility for anything!! America held Democrats responsible for Oblamacare and they paid the price!!

@Greg: Greggie, Democrats MUST take part responsibility for the housing bubble!! Let’s NOT be stupid and blame Bush as the sole reason for the failure of our economy!!

Yeah, and Bush told America that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and that we couldn’t wait or we’d be seeing spreading mushroom clouds.

Because of Bush’s “lie,” thousands of Americans died. Because of Obama’s “lie,” 10 million more Americans have health insurance.

Feel free to compare and contrast.

@Greg: Easy Greggie!! 70 Democrats saw the same evidence Bush did on WMD and agreed!! Bush did NOT lie!! Hillary was on that list. Of the 10 million who have health insurance 6 million had their current policies canceled because Oblama lied!! He also said it would cost less, another lie!! BTW why did so many Democrats get sent home in the Legislature last election cycle?? In addition, this loser has NOT been fully implemented yet!! Which President carried 49 out of 50 sates. Are you in agreement that Obama lied about his healthcare plan??

@Common Sense, #25:

70 Democrats saw the same evidence Bush did on WMD and agreed!!

Democrats and republicans all saw the same cooked intelligence reports that were subsequently revealed to have been bogus. What they didn’t know about were the warnings about it that the Bush administration had suppressed. and even kept from members of their own team.

We should drop the accusations of lies. The examples that could be found on both sides and fired back and forth are probably inexhaustible.

@Greg: Thought you would not admit it!! Which President Greggie!! Next please prove that President Bush cooked the data and lied about it!! Remember I need proof that Bush did it!!

@Greg:

I don’t claim Obama to be Great and Wonderful. I’m only denying the right’s unceasing bullshit assertions that he’s the worst president of all time, if not the devil incarnate.

Well, Greg, there have been no President’s worse (of course, this is based on the assumption that Obama has been intending to IMPROVE the condition of the United States and its citizens). ALL of Obama’s most notable “successes” (such as increased energy production and lower fuel costs) have been the result of his agenda FAILING, none due to a successful agenda.

Now, the examples that have been provided repeatedly show, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that the intelligence gathered during the Clinton Administration BY the Clinton administration was whole-heartedly endorsed by both Clintons as well as a cadre of high-ranking Democrats AND a crowd of lesser Democrats. The warnings of the risks of ousting the existing governments creating a vacuum of power that could have disastrous results were listened to and well heeded by Bush; it was Obama that chose to ignore those threats and, of course, the result is ISIS, terror and widespread evil.

Democrats and republicans all saw the same cooked intelligence reports that were subsequently revealed to have been bogus.

What, specifically, was “bogus” about the intelligence?

We should drop the accusations of lies. The examples that could be found on both sides and fired back and forth are probably inexhaustible.

How about we simply use the accusation only where it actually applies? For instance, there is NO evidence Bush lied one iota… nothing. On the other hand, there is no doubt or argument that Obama has lied his sorry ass off, repeatedly, on a regular basis, seemingly out of pathological habit. While I feel Obama actually FEARS the truth, since there is no retribution or penalty for lying (the media gives him a pass on every one), Obama simply feels, “Why the hell not?”.

@Bill: Bill thanks for the support and reality check!! Greggie of course will provide NO evidence to support his accusations!! He is a liberal wacko that will continue to lie and accuse even when he is caught!!

@Bill, #28:

What, specifically, was “bogus” about the intelligence?

Have you read the post-invasion reports prepared by bipartisan Congressional committees that looked into that question? I’ve posted the links so many times before that I’ve grown weary of doing so.

Unlike the unending investigations of more recent years, they actually reach conclusions supported by specific evidence. Which of course is totally irrelevant to people who refuse to read the reports or think about them. They’re happily—or more often angrily—living off in their own little propaganda-induced fantasy land, well insulated from any contact with facts that might call anything they’ve been conditioned to take on faith into question.

@Greg: That is NOT proof that Bush lied!! Greggie Greggie you don’t even know what proof or a lie is!! Not surprised though, any chance you will confirm which President carried 49 out of 50 states in his second term election cycle?? Do you have proof that Romney cheated on his 2010 tax return as Slimy Harry accused him off on the floor of the Senate and you agreed to?? Thought so, your a fraud, a liar, and liberal wacko!!

@Greg:

Unlike the unending investigations of more recent years, they actually reach conclusions supported by specific evidence.

Unlike the investigations into Obama’s self-inflicted scandals, the 9/11 inquiries were not stone-walled and blocked.

Again, what WAS the “bogus” elements of the intelligence presented? This is the definition of bogus:

: not real or genuine : fake or false

What was bogus? How was it faked or false, not real or genuine? It was faulty and flawed, to be sure (though WMDs WERE found), but how does “bogus” fit as a description, other than to serve a partisan lust for blame?

Remember Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, aka Curveball? Everybody but the Bush administration seems to have known this guy was totally unreliable. They don’t seem to have known it, despite the fact that plenty of people in the U.S. intelligence community knew full well. German and British intelligence services warned that the guy was a con artist. The problem was that the Bush administration didn’t want to know it. What he was claiming was just too useful in building the case for war. Everything the guy said was bogus.

Remember the aluminum tubes? The DOE concluded they weren’t suitable for use in centrifuges, but were most likely intended for use as rocket tubes. That opinion was ignored. They became evidence of a nuclear weapon program.

The supposed attempt to purchase yellow cake uranium from Nigerian sources never happened. The related documents were forgeries. Serious doubts about their authenticity were raised before the invasion commenced. People in our own intelligence community disputed their authenticity. The International Atomic Energy Agency stated they were phony.

People act as if none of this was ever investigated.

@Greg: Remember Bill Clinton? Remember Hillary Clinton? Remember Madeline Albright? Remember Sandy Berger? Remember John Kerry? Remember Carl Levin? Remember Tom Daschle? Remember Nancy Pelosi? Remember Ted Kennedy? Remember Al Gore? Remember Robert Byrd? Remember Bob Graham? Remember Jay Rockerfeller? Remember Henry Waxman? You should, because they ALL supported the evidence of Hussein’s WMD’s and the need to take him out of power, for the safety of the United States and the region.

I don’t think even you believe all this evidence and intelligence came from one guy. Yellow cake was found IN Iraq.

I’m not going to get into another endless argument about the Bush administration’s campaign to propel us into an unnecessary war, or about deliberate efforts to cover back up what subsequently came to light. Here’s an article on the subject, if anyone wants to look: The Lies that Led to the Iraq War and the Persistent Myth of ‘Intelligence Failure’

Remember Bill Clinton? Remember Hillary Clinton? Remember Madeline Albright? Remember Sandy Berger? Remember John Kerry? Remember Carl Levin? Remember Tom Daschle? Remember Nancy Pelosi? Remember Ted Kennedy? Remember Al Gore? Remember Robert Byrd? Remember Bob Graham? Remember Jay Rockerfeller? Remember Henry Waxman? You should, because they ALL supported the evidence of Hussein’s WMD’s and the need to take him out of power, for the safety of the United States and the region.

They were told the same lies as everybody else. Their error was to trust the Bush administration.

@Greg: Greggie Greggie ,Greggie, that is NOT proof that Bush lied!! I want to see proof of your accusation!! Obama lied and it’s on tape and I can prove it!! Your still a fraud who just can’t admit it when your wrong!! Proof Greggie!! Which President carried 49 out of 50 states on his second election cycle?? BTW, Slick Willy destroyed our on the ground intelligence!! He was also getting a hummer from Monica when we had Osama in our gun sights!! Remember, he was impeached AND found

A person is either able to look at the facts and draw the logical conclusions from them or they aren’t. If someone is unable or unwilling to, that doesn’t change the facts.

@Greg: greggie,greggie,greggie thanks for putting your delusions into perspective,now greggie yells to ronald j tea baggee ward , on to the ethanol powered big wheel

@Greg: Uh, their “error” was that they collected much of the intelligence. Unless you are willing to cease with the attempts at trying to justify Obama’s failures by repeating the thoroughly debunked “bogus” (used where the term actually applies) lie about “lies”, you will indeed be in an endless fight; just as Obama has involved us in a near-endless fight in Iraq by stupidly pulling ALL our troops out and swinging the door wide with a great big “WELCOME” sign for ISIS.

Based on your idea of facts, it IS a fact that based on the evidence presented here you are a liberal wacko moron who looks at accusations and draws conclusions that are complete fabrications!! One can also easily conclude that no matter what real facts are presented to you regarding President Obola you will deny them and blame Republicans especially President Bush!! This is the only conclusion that can be drawn from years of your lies and accusations.

@Common Sense: Not guilty–finished it. No impeachment process has ever gotten past the Senate. Andrew Johnson only other Prez. to be impeached. Nixon would have probably gone down if he had not resigned.
Quote from one of my favorite pols–Adlai Stevenson who ran as Dem. nom against Ike in 52 and 56.
” I promise if the Repubs. stop telling lies about me I’ll stop telling the truth about them” lol
Who is your pick for Repub. prez. nom in 2016? I’m backing Navy Cross recipient Jim Webb.
Hope you are enjoying life in Carlsbad. Semper Fi

@Rich Wheeler: How about convicted of lying to a grand jury?? Guilty or Not Guilty??

@Common Sense: Clinton was not CONVICTED of anything though he was disbarred.
He was impeached by the House but found not guilty by the Senate.

@Rich Wheeler: Rich, thanks for the clarification. He was convicted of lying as part of a grand jury investigation, correct?

@Common Sense: He was not convicted since he was not tried in civilian court He was DISBARRED for lying to G.J..

No need for a trial because he admitted he lied. He also lied directly the American People, very sad time in our history. What is also sad is that President Bush was accused of lying when he did not.

@Common Sense:

He was pushed into a spotlight and improperly questioned about the private sexual behavior between consenting adults. At which point he should have told Ken Starr to go f-ck himself and the horse he rode in on, and let the pieces fall where they may.

@Common Sense: IMO Bush’s biggest problem was he had a bunch of lying scoundrels, like Cheney and Rumsfeld advising him.
He was a nice guy and a fraternity brother–Drunken Dekes

@Rich+Wheeler: Rich, my point is that the liberal media chant Bush lied and people died which is NOT true and I ask anyone to prove that he did and they can’t. It is sad to see our press give Slick a pass as he lied to our face and falsely accuse President Bush. All you need to know with respect to liberal media bias!! in addition neither Cheney nor Rumsfeld lied!! Once again proof is needed, real proof!!

@Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, he looked America in the face and lied “period”, it is proof!! No excuse can cover this fact!! As far as telling an investigation to do as you say, it is amazing but not surprising that even Slick has more integrity than you. In addition the Blue dress speaks for itself!! Do you think he could run away from the truth?? As mentioned, all evidence is clear that your a liberal wacko moron!! It was President Ronald Regan that ran for his second term by asking America are you better off now than you where four years ago. America in historic fashion said yes as he carried 49 out of 50 states. I am guessing your liberal press articles didn’t provide you with this truth!!

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