9 Dec

Former Occidental College mate: Obama an “ardent Marxist-Leninist”

                                       

In between the establishment GOP elected elite and their fellow pundits, all in an uproar about Newt’s rise in the polls, and the Ron Paul supporters pouring on the steam pushing their guy… let’s have another type of fun, shall we? After all, these are the days when people like Palin and Cain are tried in the court of public opinion based on past confessions and accusations. It would be a pity to leave Obama out of our new age justice system.

Seems that an old story is rebounding via Selwyn Duke over at the New American today. An old Occidental College contemporary of Obama’s three decades ago – John Drew, himself a self-described Marxist at the time – says that Obama was an “ardent Marxist-Leninist” during his years there, and as of today, Drew doesn’t think he’s changed one iota.

Drew doesn’t believe the President has changed, either, and I agree. I explained why in a follow-up to Kengor’s piece, writing:

Some may say that a person can change markedly over a 30-year period. This is true.

…Yet a transition from flat-out “Marxist-Leninist” to someone who rejects the red menace is a pretty big change, don’t you think? In fact, wouldn’t such a personal evolution — some might say revolution — be a kind of conversion? I think so.

…There’s an interesting thing, however, about conversions.

You hear about them.

You see, a conversion is a sea change, a rebirth, a turning point in your existence. You may become, as Christians say, a new creation, and you’re at least a reformed old one. And you reflect your new state of being and often want to voice it.

And those around you will know about it.

As for this writer, everyone who knows me would say that my religious conversion was a seminal point in my life.

Now consider something. Barack Obama is one of the most famous, most discussed individuals on the planet.

But we have not heard about any soul-changing conversion in his life.

Not a whisper.

Nothing.

Nothing that could reconcile the flat-out Marxist-Leninist Obama was in his college days with the man he supposedly is today. There’s no one who says, “Yeah, he was a radical guy in his youth, and I just couldn’t believe how he became disenchanted with his old ideas.”

At the time, Drew…who says he “…was a more nuanced Marxist”… attempted to convince Obama that old style Communist revolution was unrealistic for Western nations. Obama, disagreeing, considered Drew a “reactionary”, and would have none of that nonsense.

But, as referenced above in his article today, Mr. Duke was not the first to report on John Drew’s emergence with his not so surprising revelation of Obama’s penchant for Marxism. That would actually be American Thinker’s Paul Kengor, who, in his article one day shy of a year ago, called John Drew “Obama’s Missing Link”. Drew surfaced about a year before Kengor penned the article, contacting him after reading an piece he had written on Frank Davis and Obama. Apparently, like so many these days, he had something he wanted to get off his chest.

Drew had some significant experiences to share, and he e-mailed me just before I turned in my final manuscript. I concluded that he was legitimate (no question) and recorded his testimony at length.

Drew was a contemporary of Obama at Occidental College and a Marxist himself. In fact, Drew was a well-known campus communist when Obama was introduced to him as “one of us.” “Obama was already an ardent Marxist when I met in the fall of 1980,” said Drew, going on the record.

Drew is certainly cognizant of the gravity of his statement. “I know it’s incendiary to say this,” he adds, but Obama “was basically a Marxist-Leninist.” He noted how Obama, in Dreams from My Father, stated that when he got to college, he attended “socialist conferences” and “hung out” with Marxist professors. But what Obama did not explain or clarify, says Dr. Drew, is that Obama “was in 100 percent, total agreement with these Marxist professors.”

At the time of that writing, Drew admitted he did not know the POTUS today, so could only comment on the Obama college student he knew. But after three years of Obama in the WH, that no longer appears to be the case. The decades ago discussion about the feasibility of modern day Communist revolutions – and which one was the more radical – bears repeating verbatim.

Drew doesn’t believe the President has changed, either, and I agree.

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In fact, Drew states that while he was a more nuanced Marxist who tried to convince Obama that old-style communist revolution was unrealistic in the West, the future President would have none of it and considered Drew a “reactionary.”

So what say ye? Since we’ve crucified past GOP candidates and conservatives, based on little more than an accuser from the past, coming forward, shall we do the same to Obama? While Selwyn Duke didn’t equate the trial-by-media mentality into which we have evolved, he did touch on that observation indirectly in his piece…

Perhaps we don’t have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that would stand up in a criminal proceeding for either of the above propositions. But asking for it is unreasonable and irresponsible. In the court of public opinion, there must be no higher burden than in a civil court: a preponderance of the evidence. And a preponderance of it in the President’s case points to a simple conclusion: Barack Obama is likely a communist or communist sympathizer.

Have fun… it will give everyone a chance to vent their frustrations and anger out on someone who isn’t a GOP candidate for a change.

About MataHarley

Vietnam era Navy wife, indy/conservative, and an official California escapee now residing as a red speck in the sea of Oregon blue.
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67 Responses to Former Occidental College mate: Obama an “ardent Marxist-Leninist”

  1. MATA,
    SUPER TIMING, this will fly like a bird,
    in so many houses of AMERICA.
    THANK YOU

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  2. Nan G says: 52

    @John C. Drew, Ph.D.:

    That was also an excellent set of recollections and questions for serious consideration.
    Why is it that the news media failed to do due diligence on Obama?

    Dr. Drew, your essay linked at comment 44 recalled to my mind a conversation Obama had with a Muslim writer who reported it on line well before the presidential election.

    No one really followed up on that, either.
    Here it is:
    March 2007

    Over the years since I first saw Obama speak I met him about half a dozen times, often at Palestinian and Arab-American community events in Chicago including a May 1998 community fundraiser at which Edward Said was the keynote speaker. In 2000, when Obama unsuccessfully ran for Congress I heard him speak at a campaign fundraiser hosted by a University of Chicago professor. On that occasion and others Obama was forthright in his criticism of US policy and his call for an even-handed approach to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

    The last time I spoke to Obama was in the winter of 2004 at a gathering in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood. He was in the midst of a primary campaign to secure the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate seat he now occupies. But at that time polls showed him trailing.

    As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, “Hey, I’m sorry I haven’t said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I’m hoping when things calm down I can be more up front.” He referred to my activism*, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy, “Keep up the good work!”

    But Obama’s gradual shift into the AIPAC camp had begun as early as 2002 as he planned his move from small time Illinois politics to the national scene. In 2003, Forward reported on how he had “been courting the pro-Israel constituency.”

    http://electronicintifada.net/content/how-barack-obama-learned-love-israel/6786

    *This is the writer’s own blog.
    Note how hate-filled it is.
    Yet Obama lauded his writings.

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  3. MataHarley says: 53

    Bees, Dr. Drew has been around for over a year, and it hasn’t “flown” yet in the MSM. I wouldn’t hold out hopes they do so unless, as usual, the blogs drive the news headlines… as they generally do.

    Perhaps Dr. Drew’s 2010 emergence was simply a result of too little, too late. However now we head into a campaign for 2012. It is the vetting that has been long overdue. Altho I do believe that the Drew’s, as a family, risk much more as Obama… already a dirty Chicago thug type fighter… now wields the power of the WH and executive agencies.

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  4. MATA
    there is an important factor which DR DREW, mentioned,
    pinpointing the failure of the AIDES TO THE leader to bring that to the front runner,
    which was MCAIN AND SARAH PALIN ALONG HIS CAMPAiGN,
    but if she received the info, maybe MCAIN REFUSE HER to mentioned it in a speech, but I HEARD a short mention of it from her, and the word MARXIST WAS IN IT. but she was talking fast, with many words,
    incriminating OBAMA’s ability for the position, and his circle of questionable friends, plus his invisible birth certificate well still not proven today she was also telling of the missing background for him to be
    deserving to the position,
    well they didn’t listen, especial with the MEDIA with their tingles in their legs and their selling pitch
    of pure propaganda having rendered the crowd attending and voters at home in a frenzye state of delirium

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  5. Hi MataHarley:
    Thanks for the feedback and the research. I want to make sure I’m providing everyone with the information they need. Ideally, I’d love to write an article where I can explain how young Obama was a footnote in my lifetime of intellectual growth and adventure. :-) Thank you for the encouragement.
    Regards, JCD

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  6. Skookum says: 56

    John C. Drew, Ph.D. : I have no editorial responsibility, but I think it is safe to say, we at Flopping Aces would love to have an article by you.

    Thanks for dropping by, Skook.

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  7. MataHarley says: 57

    @John C. Drew, Ph.D., I had sent Curt your YouTube with excerpts of your talk with the Capistrano Republican Women’s Federated Club. It’s now up in the top right of the Flopping Aces main page as a “featured video”.

    If you do pen something and would like it cross posted here, you can contact Curt via the “Contact” link in the bar just below the western themed banner at the top. Or you can use the “reader post” submission link as well. We’d love to read it.

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  8. Richard Wheeler says: 58

    Dr. Drew says “Obama a footnote” One meeting over drinks 30 years ago.Footnote is right.I’m a neighbor of yours in San Clemente,former Marine Officer and a 2008 precinct captain for BHO. Would love to buy you a drink at restaurant of your choice here in S.C or L.N.
    Semper Fi

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  9. Hi Richard,

    Sounds like fun. My wife is from San Clemente and I really like that area. I meet a lot of our business clients at the CoCo’s on Crown Valley and I5. You can connect with me through my website at http://www.speakermatch.com/profile/drdrew/ I’m a former Democrat myself. I left the party, in part, because of the way affirmative action harmed my academic career. It wasn’t fun to go on job interview and job interview only to lose out to the less qualified minority candidate. Here’s some more information regarding my intellectual growth and contribution to understanding poverty in developing nations. http://pathwaytoprosperity.blogspot.com/2008/08/overview.html
    FYI: I’ll be a guest on the Michael Savage program tonight at 5:30 p.m. PST.

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  11. Richard Wheeler says: 60

    John I’ll be in touch. I still remember as a teenager on L.I. I couldn’t get a county lifeguard job because my dad was a registered Dem.That’s politics.
    Are you saying child labor laws should be strictly enforced? I’d agree.
    Mata “Dr. Drew’s family may be at risk” LOL A couple of ancient meetings over drinks doesn’t hold much credibility in my eyes.
    BTW Are they “college mates” if they didn’t attend Occi. at the same time?

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  12. Richard Wheeler
    DR DREW is at this time finding dangerous time for AMERICA TO SINK
    forever in a downward precipice
    that mean he is prepare to swear on his words, that is most credible.

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  13. Hi Richard:

    Sadly, I learned as a young man that Democrats did not care if I lived or died. Since I was a young white man, they thought it was okay to deny me employment and thwart my once promising academic career. It was no fun to spend years in graduate school, living in poverty, only to learn at the end of the process: “Sorry, you’re white.” I grew up in a poor family. The Democrats, in my personal experience, do not care a bit for the white working class.

    Regards, John

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  14. origuy says: 63

    @MataHarley: et al…

    Mata: I’m sorry to keep your toes tapping. Life intrudes!

    You asked about my position on character assassination. Someone brought up “Swiftboat”, but has anyone brought up (pardon the pun) “Code-Pink”? In my view they are two side of a bad coin. When someone can’t debate someone, the easiest way to attack them is to sling mud. In either the “Big Lie” version, the “Shotgun” version, or a combination of both. Through ad hominem attacks (Did you hear who’s he/she sleeping with?), slander (Did you hear what she/he did?), or more subtle propaganda (Death Panels- yes they were in there, but that’s not what they were.), they will attempt to defeat their opponent, not on the strengths of THEIR position, but by undermining the opponent’s. It is fair?- NO. Do both side use it? – YES Should either side use it?- NO, but they will, and the only thing we can do is to call them on it. (Addendum: It was Tina Fey that said “I can see Russia from my house.”, McCain can’t do e-mail because of a SERIOUS war wound, that isn’t funny, and Cain dropped out so that a man with three mirages, and at least two affairs can take the lead? And I thought Bill Clinton had a pair!)

    HR: Thank you for the laugh. Yes it does refer to origami. You remind me of a family member of mine. As to me responding to the rest…Well I don’t want to be a hypocrite.

    Dr. Drew: Hello Dr. I’m glad, and surprised (Pleasantly), to to meet you in this forum. While I may disagree with your view of Obama, I have no problem conversing on this subject with you. Seeing as you yourself said that you only met him a few times, and are basing you judgement of him on the people that knew him, I will stipulate that I know him only from the various media. So both of our views MAY be filtered by our views. (I wish there was a font for irony!)

    I was wondering if you could explain the differences between Marxism, socialism, communism, AND I think a proper definition of capitalism would help our understand of the situation. It would give us a common benchmark to work from.

    As to the child labor laws, what do you think of the current crop of GOP, some of which have pushed for weakening or doing away with some parts of the child-labor laws?

    Thank you.

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  16. Lary Nine says: 64

    “Now consider something. Barack Obama is one of the most famous, most discussed individuals on the planet.
    But we have not heard about any soul-changing conversion in his life.
    Not a whisper.
    Nothing.
    Nothing that could reconcile the flat-out Marxist-Leninist Obama was in his college days with the man he supposedly is today. There’s no one who says, “Yeah, he was a radical guy in his youth, and I just couldn’t believe how he became disenchanted with his old ideas.””

    Your reasoning displays both the logical errors of subjective validation, componded by the fallacy of anecdotal evidence. Nothing in it is probative. It’s not even as likely as the old time-honored “if it walks and quacks like a duck then…” This is because, as 1st. person observer and at the related time, the comments’ principle writer never actually saw the duck in question walking or quacking.
    In fact, it’s a sample of such utterly glassine pretense that I question why I’m bothering…I am outta heeyah…

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  17. MATA
    HERE WE ARE IN A PLACE FITTED FOR OBAMA’S CRITICS ON ROMNEY
    LET’S KEEP THIS POST ALIVE AND READY FOR PICKING THE QUOTES WE NEED,
    TO TALK TO OUR OPPONENT raging bull ,
    bye
    Lary Nine thank you for leading me here again.

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