You’ve got to hand it him. This was pure genius. It is a thing of beauty. In an interview with Clinton water boy George Stephanopoulos Donald Trump made some entertaining comments:
President Donald Trump is not ruling out receiving dirt from foreign agents in the future and doesn’t necessarily think he needs to notify the FBI if such information were offered.
Trump’s comments came during an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.
Trump had just noted that when the Mueller report came out, they hardly even talked about his son, Donald Trump Jr.
“Should he have gone to the FBI when he got that email?” Stephanopoulos asked.
Trump replied: “Okay, let’s put yourself in a position. You’re a congressman, somebody comes up and says, ‘hey, I have information on your opponent,’ do you call the FBI? I don’t think …”
Stephanopoulos then stressed that if it’s Russians you do.
“I’ll tell you what, I’ve seen a lot of things over my life,” he said. “I don’t think in my whole life I’ve ever called the FBI. In my whole life. You don’t call the FBI.”
And if offered such dirt?
He also insisted it was not election interference.
“It’s not interference. They have information. I think I’d take it,” the president said, before suggesting it was oppo research.
Well, he set the left ablaze with indignation and self-righteousness:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi unleashed on President Donald Trump for his comments on accepting election assistance from foreign countries, with Pelosi saying Trump didn’t know “right from wrong.”
Trump told ABC News that he would be open to receiving foreign intelligence on election opponents.
“It’s not interference. They have information. I think I’d take it,” the president said, before suggesting it was opposition research.
“What the president said last night shows clearly once again over and over again that he does not know the difference between right and wrong,” Pelosi said. “And that’s probably the nicest thing I can say about him.”
“If he doesn’t know the difference, it could explain some of this ridiculous behavior,” Pelosi said.
CNN’s John Avlon was apoplectic:
Avlon noted “in Washington’s farewell address he warned ‘history and experience teach us that foreign influence is the foe of Republican government.’” He then added how Alexander Hamilton talked in Federalist Paper #68 about the “danger of foreign influence elevating someone to the executive.” “Also, Adams and Jefferson wrote about it. This is basic.”
“What Donald Trump did was the Founding Fathers’ worst nightmare,” Avlon concluded.
The moronic Steve Cohen about blew out an artery:
Cohen further speculated that Trump would then try to explain away his actions by saying all members of Congress do oppo research when in reality no member of Congress has likely been offered up oppo research by a foreign entity.
“He’s so wacko,” Cohen fumed. “Last week, it was go to Mars and forget the Moon. A month ago, it was go to the Moon.”
They threw Trump right into the briar patch. Right where he wanted to be. They missed something yuge.
This is what hillary clinton and the DNC did to Trump in the 2016 election.
Mark Warner, no stranger to the Russians, basically admitted it:
“But I would say this, when I had contact with someone that, that’s been reported, first thing I did was, of course I contacted the FBI,” Warner said. He also notified the members of his committee, contrary to Trump’s attack.
“Republicans this morning are also equating Christopher Steele’s work as a former British agent, and his effort to help take up dirt in Hillary Clinton’s campaign, saying she should have contacted the FBI. Is there even an analogy here?” Raju asked.
“I would say on going forward basis, if there are foreign agents trying to intervene in our election, there are to be an affirmative obligation for any presidential candidate to report to the FBI,” Warner said.
“Going forward” says Warner. Let’s not look back at what hillary and the DNC did. Steele is the very definition of foreign agent.
And Pelosi? She did exactly what Trump wanted her to do. What, you ask? Right here:
Pelosi: Democrats will take up measure to ban foreign opposition research
“There is a law that you cannot accept contributions and that includes in-kind from a foreign government,” Pelosi said. “But if it needs more clarity than we will go to the ‘duty to report.’ Not only that you don’t accept it, but you report it to the FBI.”
Pelosi called such research “an invitation of of our democracy” and said Democrats want to make it illegal.
“We want to make sure it has more clarity and a responsibility to report.”
You will remember that Trump has repeatedly said what happened to him “should never happen to another President.”
Did Pelosi left a finger to begin that effort?
Nah.
So Trump said something outrageous enough to compel Pelosi to act. He suggested that he might do to the next democrat Presidential candidate what was done to him. He might do what Clinton and the DNC did- use foreign oppo research from a foreign spy with Russian disinformation in an attempt to prevent Trump from being elected and then try to remove him from office for a hoax the Clinton campaign and the DNC fabricated.
Pelosi and democrats were content to let this happen to Trump, thus they weren’t going to to help him stop these activities until such time as those actions could visit harm on a democrat candidate.
That’s a no no and Pelosi was not going to allow it, so she says she will take up legislation to prevent it.
Which is exactly what Trump wanted in the first place. If Pelosi’s legislation passes, it will be what Trump sought.
This was like watching DaVinci paint.
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Except for liberals being foolish.
With Pelosi writing the bill, it would no doubt include a provision for a Democrat to be able to use any such information as long as it did not violate the rights of illegal immigrants.
I wonder how much help the Russians were providing Trump by Putin having two of his associates provide Steele with dirt on Trump? Putin was salivating at the thought of Hillary being President and all that juicy blackmail fodder he had collected on her through bribes, “contributions”, “speaking fees” and all the emails she laid out for them to scarf up.
It was a “dirty trick,” Hillary ran on Trump.
Dirty tricking is older than the Nixon Plumbers’ Unit.
If Dems want to make the FBI the arbiter of campaign talking points it would stifle free speech in this country totally.
We don’t want Hillary punished based on this idea any more than we want anyone else punished for using international memes.
Instead how about we default to a vetting by the offended party.
Like when Dems and Dan Rather tried to pull off their October Surprise against GWBush saying they had “Written Proof” he’d not been rated as a pilot.
Charles Johnson created an animated GIF image comparing the memo purportedly typewritten in 1973 with a proportional-spaced document made in Microsoft Word with default settings in 2004. It was an exact match prompting Dan Rather to coin the term, “Fake, but accurate.”
It only took 24 hours to debunk the Dan Rather lie.
It would take even less time for people on the web to debunk today’s lies once the opposition publishes them.
That’s how Free Speech works.
Not by criminalization of parts of speech.
But what if it was purchased and not just offered pro bono? You know, hire an opposition research law firm, have them go hire a foreign spy that has already worked with Democrats in the State Dept, and have him contact Russians get a whole pile of disinformation, sprinkle it with NSA collected tidbits via the CIA, then have it fed to the FBI by the State Dept and CIA, and the law firm? Then leak it like mad to the Media….
Will that be in her new legislation?
ah- the art of the deal. besides, what is stephanopoulos still doing in this country? recall, he fiercely paddled that he would leave America if Trump won, so why is he still here? it is s money thing with him. hope his wife never finds out about the new girlfriend. he dumped the last one a few months ago
@kitt: Again, if Putin wanted to help Trump, why didn’t he have the fact that Hillary was gathering this trash up leaked to the media?
The claim that Putin was trying to help Trump gets thinner every day.
@Deplorable Me: Something tells me the CIA and FBI know exactly how these tourist felt, except their footing is thinner. https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/national/glass-skydeck-cracks-under-visitor-feet-103-stories-high-chicago-willis-tower/rKUNwLwnvJxwIvcJ0vu97H/
Actually, Trump can’t get Pelosi to do anything, because she won’t allow him to control everything. All moving forward on issues of mutual interest would take would be a willingness to engage in honest negotiation and reasonable compromise, but that’s not Trump’s style. His style of politics requires polarization and enemies.
@Greg: Yeah, that’s why she’s been pushing for this law ever since she learned Hillary got her “opposition research” from the Russians. Because, you know, she’s in control and smart and stuff.
@Greg: @Greg:
You could’nt be more incorrect. What compromise legislation has been put on his desk?
@kitt: Actually, after his election, he offered conciliation and bipartisanship, but the left absolutely and resoundingly refuse, preferring instead to invent their “collusion” fantasy and try to remove him from office under false pretenses. Yet, Trump is “divisive”.
Since Trump’s victory there has been nothing from the left but bitterness, sore losership, crybabyism and butt-hurt. They vowed to impeach Trump before he was ever sworn in. You can’t get more divisive and completely unhinged than the left has been, totally unreasonable and irrational.
@Deplorable Me: He offered DACA for a pittance, now the Dems will need to make large concessions if they get it at all.
Rand Paul has gone off his rocker wanting to limit emergency powers, WTF sometimes we just cant wait for both houses to get all their pork loaded on to a bill for them all to agree if it is an EMERGENCY.
@kitt: Dems don’t make concessions. They don’t even meet anyone halfway. They are so used to getting all of their demands and having their media partners support and cover for them, they never concede anything. That’s why we can’t get budgets, immigration reform or anything else passed, and that was before they went insane over Trump.
@Deplorable Me: The RINOs had 2 years to do a budget we got nothing from Ryan but an omibus so massive Obama would have been satisfied. With all those coming off food stamps and other assistance wheres the excess? You know they wont cut that in the budget.
Of course! Donald Trump admitting in a TV interview that he would commit a crime (take foreign intel on a political opponent) is just sheer brilliance and is just another shining example of the solid leadership he brings to the office of President.
@Gary Miller:
So you are now admitting that Hillary, the DNC, Mark Warner and Schiff committed crimes? How long before you are demanding they be prosecuted? Or do you consider it OK as long as the information they collect is all lies?
@kitt, #9:
After much effort and negotiation, a bipartisan compromise agreement on immigration legislation was reached in the Senate in early 2018. It was immediately blown up by President Trump with a promise that he would veto it the moment it hit his desk—which was the primary reason it never got there.
http://www.startribune.com/trump-says-he-d-want-to-hear-foreign-dirt-on-2020-rivals/511210722/
Trump is right on both points.
Conveying information is not “foreign interference in our elections.”
http://www.startribune.com/trump-says-he-d-want-to-hear-foreign-dirt-on-2020-rivals/511210722/
But Trump was not asked about “information stolen by foreign adversaries” in yesterday’s interview, so the alleged contradiction doesn’t exist. He was asked about Norway and legal information as opposed to stolen.
Evidently the pols & media are talking about Trump referencing shenanigans that the DNC pulled in order to guarantee Hillary Clinton the nomination, as revealed in DNC emails that were published by Wikileaks.
Does the Post seriously think that Trump should have gone through the campaign without mentioning facts that everyone knew, on the theory that the Russians might have been the ones who originally phished the DNC’s email account? If so, the claim is ridiculous.
@Greg:#16 If Congress does not provide legislation that includes what Trump is demanding, he has the right to veto it. He wanted the wall and Democrats, though they have supported it in the past, would not support it then simply because they wanted to deny it to Trump. Americans are being killed by illegal immigrants but all Democrats care about is how much they hate Trump. That is the very definition of insanity.
@Nan G:
Trump said at the beginning of the interview that he would do both; listen to the information and contact the FBI. From that, Pelosi said that Trump is showing he doesn’t know right from wrong and is a criminal. THAT’S what Trump is trying to find common ground with; partisan idiots.
@Greg:That reached his desk, there was nothing. 2018 Senate is not both houses who do you think you are replying to , someone who thinks we are a democracy? lol.
can i PLEASE correct one sentence to make it perfect? PLEASE? 🙂 (just kidding)
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They threw Trump right into the briar patch. Right where he wanted to be. They missed something yuge.
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They threw Brair Trump right into the briar patch. Right where he wanted to be. The foxes missed something yuge.
@Gary Miller:
Pretty much. Read the article. He got his political opponent to do what he wanted.
Brilliant.
Your blind outrage is why your party is crashing by the day. Normal Americans know this is all corrupt maneuvering by loser Dems.
Perhaps your party should find a viable candidate, and viable platform, instead of mass lies and propaganda?
Trump’s win in 2020…going to so ‘UUuuge’. Hope you’re ready.
@Greg:
So? Plenty of bipartisan bills end up like that…including many during Obama’s reign. Go back and read how our government works.
That Trump made promises he’s either achieved or keeps fighting for is why the majority of American’s voted for him. It’s why he’ll win again, by a landslide.
But yeah, continue with the “nobody likes him” or “he’s crazy” tact. That hasn’t got your party very far. Your best is “Grope’n Joe”. hahahaha…
@Nathan Blue, #22:
Receiving two million votes fewer than one’s opponent is only a majority win in the minds of the Red Hat Brigade.
Trump’s list: 289 accomplishments in just 20 months, ‘relentless’ promise-keeping
I notice the first 37 items on the list are all different ways of saying “Trump hasn’t yet f-cked up Obama’s 75 consecutive months of job growth, which followed the worst and most prolonged economic downturn since the Great Depression. All Trump did was put Obama’s slow and steady recovery on steroids with a fiscally insane tax cut that is returning us to trillion-dollar-a-year deficits despite a strong economy.
Shall we talk about the potential costs of a looming third Middle East war, which looks suspiciously like a marriage between long-standing neocon ambitions and the Trump administration’s need for something to eclipse coverage of multiple investigations to improve his chances of hanging onto the White House? Nobody is saying it yet, so I suppose I will. That’s how much I trust this administration, and the ethically challenged political party that has wet itself in terror, and then enabled it.
@Greg:
He didn’t. Those were fraudulent.
First, keep in mind that Obama didn’t begin “job growth” until he achieved 10.2% unemployment, a level he said would neve be reached and which, by his own admission, proved he should not be reelected. Next, let’s be honest enough to point out that the vast majority of those jobs were part time and/or low paying; the REASON Democrats campaigned for a $15 minimum wage. NONE of the jobs they created could provide a satisfactory wage.
All Trump did was to put America back in a condition which was attractive to manufacturers, bringing back those well-paying manufacturing jobs that Obama had no clue how to bring back… he SAID he didn’t. Wages are growing under Trump; they were stagnant under Obama, as was growth. The economy didn’t totally die under Obama simply because it is, at its core, a strong economy, despite what Obama did to it.
Sure, if you want to admit it is the result of another mess Obama made and left behind. He personally provided Iran the funds they needed to further their terrorist campaigns and are now lashing out now that Trump is REALLY putting the pressure on them to join the civilized world.
Trump wants NOTHING to interfere with coverage of the investigations into the illegal spying and the attempted coup against Trump. In fact, I bet he wishes the liberal propaganda arm of the Democrat party, otherwise known as the MSM, would actually provide some real coverage. They don’t because THEY are afraid of the truth getting out. That is why you and the left are playing this Iranian misbehavior as World War Last. It is YOU wagging the dog, not Trump.
@Deplorable Me, #24:
I’m fully aware that on Planet Trump every goofy assertion is backed by yet another goofy assertion, and that you can often follow them around in a complete circle back to your starting point, and then be sold a ticket for another ride.
There’s no credible evidence whatsoever for the claim that the 2 million votes weren’t totally legitimate. It’s like Trump’s bullshit assertion that his inauguration audience was the biggest in history, or an earlier claim that the Weapons of Mass Destruction we invaded Iran a second time for were actually found. For a while such lies can seem amusing, or annoying, and then a bit pathetic. Then one realizes that they never stop, that people increasingly believe them, and that the lies are actually very dangerous.
Consider the blurry video of an unidentified boat’s unidentified crew removing a limpet mine from the side of an abandoned Japanese tanker. Highly placed U.S. sources are claiming that as proof that Iranian agents stuck the damn things on there to begin with. A major news outlet is dutifully reporting it as such. Seriously? This is kind of like a claim that firemen seen putting out a building fire must be the arsonists. The logic is patently faulty. More evidence is required to support such a claim, which if unquestioningly accepted could have very serious consequences. What they’re presently claiming as fact is actually nothing more than supposition, and any thoughtful and informed person can speculate about a number of possible ulterior motives behind it. They still haven’t told us what precipitated moving a carrier battle group within easy striking range of Iran. What Iranian provocations? If you’re going to start killing Iranians and getting our people killed in the process at the risk of all hell breaking loose, you better be able to share a damn good reason for it.
@Greg:
Shall we?
OK, The investigations are all being done by politicians, not investigators they are going to uncover something Mueller and Weissmans dream team could not?
Sometimes after reading your posts coffee nearly comes out of my nose, you hold out a glimmer of hope. Its ok but also pay attention to the other investigations, now you know its against the law to get oppo research from foreign agents and thats exatly what the DNC did and tried to hide it by not claiming it on the campaigns disclosure. amgreatness.com/2018/04/19/congress-pursues-clinton-for-hiding-fusion-gps-payments
Things still wont become clear to you because of your MK Ultra, mockingbird programming, or you too are criminally insane, I prefer to think programmed.
@Greg:
There is a BOAT LOAD of evidence to indicate that not only the 2 million vote margin, but more were fraudulent and/or illegal immigrant votes. Democrats have exploited every avenue of voter fraud and even created new ones; voter fraud is a legacy with them. It is why they fight and block every effort to secure the integrity of the vote. While they whine that a couple of thousand dollars worth of Facebook ads turned the 2016 election, they promote allowing illegal immigrants fresh from their home country voting in our elections. Democrats have totally given up and abandoned the idea of a fair, straight up election; only through fraud can they regain power.
I have provided numerous links to verified examples of Democrat voter fraud. Anyone that believes ALL have been discovered is a naive fool. While you believe fabricated stories are good enough to convict Trump of conspiracy, collusion and obstruction you willingly turn a blind eye to REAL evidence of wrongdoing. You are totally driven by partisanship.
@Deplorable Me: They refuse to look at the voting map, many areas swept by Trump have limited internet access, the heaviest areas for hillary is rife with high speed internet and open free access. If this was a Social media blitz why would rural areas be all trump? Places where people work long hours and spend little time on the internet…hmmm
@kitt: They aren’t going to bother themselves with facts.
@Gary Miller: You just don’t get it do you? President Trump pulled off a master stroke. He got pelosi to say that what the hildebeast is KNOWN to have done in 2016 was a federal crime! Lower IQ people (dimocrats and libturds) never understand true brilliance when it is right in front of them.
@Bookdoc:
Trump pulled off a master stroke?!
Did you hear the one about Mexico paying for the wall?
Did you hear the one about imposing tariffs on Mexico?
Did you know that the New York Times is failing?
Do you think his tax cuts were the biggest in history?
Did you know he was going to sue all the women who accused him of sexual harassment?
Did you hear the one about how he saw — with his OWN EYES — thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on 9-11?
Nothing but sheer brilliance!!
@Nathan Blue:
A majority of Americans voted for Trump? Please – share the vote count with us, Nathan!
Actually, Trump absolutely owns the minds of the suckers who unquestioningly believe what he says. He’s got them all wired up to a panel of buttons. Early this morning, he pushed one:
Welcome to the Idiocracy.
Democrats will be facing the same question they did as the 2007-2008 recession took hold: Do you really want to elect a democrat to do clean-up duty, knowing that he or she will then be blamed for the post-binge disaster scene?
Unfortunately, the only responsible adult answer is YES, even though you already know the GOP’s predictable behavior from prior observation.
@Greg: Of course, compared to Obama’s dismal record of economic failure, ANYTHING would appear amazing, but Trump has truly revitalized the economy.
Right. He revitalized the economy like an injection of methamphetamine revitalizes a speed addict. Any idiot can put a recovered economy on HIGH by way of drastic tax cuts and the removal of the regulatory safety valves. The problem is that you quickly burn through your fuel reserves, and then are at risk of an uncontrollable crash. Adding a trillion dollars a year to a $22 trillion debt is not sustainable. It’s a drastic emergency measure. Doing so will leave no effective means of response when the inevitable downturn happens. What are you going to do then? Cut taxes even more?
This is how you get to hyperinflation and turn people’s life savings into Monopoly money.
@Greg: Get off your economically retarded soap box, high corporate taxes crappy trade deals, driving jobs out of the country with excessive regulation. Then go on some unicorn green economy unicorn ride where he paid solar companies to go out of business. I would love to see his and members of congresses Cayman accounts, but the Panama papers investigator was murdered.
https://www.theguardian.com/…/2017/oct/16/malta-car-bomb-kills-panama-papers-journalist
@Greg:
Hmmm… Obama couldn’t. Or wouldn’t. Obama just printed money and loaned it out at 0.0% to keep the economy growing at a raucous clip of 1.2%.
All Trump had to do was not be the regulatory idiot Obama. Notice how the economy simply took off the moment Obama couldn’t wreck it any more. Then Trump did what needed to be done; reduce growth-killing taxes and regulations.
Obama’s economy was a shambles. Trump rebuilt it.
@Greg:
You mean like JFK did by cutting taxes?
Adding a (over) trillion dollar a year to a $10 trillion debt is exactly what Obama did. But oddly enough, I don’t remember you complaining about how Obama raised our debt by 9 1/2 trillion in just eight years.
Now, I understand you are blind to the disaster that Obama was, and you hold nothing but pure hatred for Trump, but you are not going to get by with canonizing Obama here anymore.
@Deplorable Me, #37:
He certainly could have, but wouldn’t. Once increased stimulus spending had pulled the economy out of a terminal nose dive, he realized it was time to lighten up on the accelerator to bring down unsustainable trillion-dollar deficits. That’s precisely what he did, and that’s what was happening. His second term ended with with stimulus-related deficits drastically reduced and 75 consecutive months of job growth. Compare that with the disaster scene he had walked in on.
Then, along came Don the Con. We’ve added over $2 trillion to the national debt since he was inaugurated, will be adding an additional trillion dollars a year from this point forward, and will have no means of stimulating the economy when the next recession hits. The man is an idiot, but he couldn’t be doing this without the assistance of other idiots. It takes a village of idiots.
@retire05:
Obama did it in response to an economic downturn that threatened to turn into an economic depression. Trump is doing it for no good reason at all. The economy had already recovered. It just wasn’t running hot enough to rake it in fast enough. What Trump has enabled is an epic high-end cash grab, paid for with the public credit card. We’re headed for serious economic trouble, even if we don’t get sucked into another multi-trillion dollar war in the Middle East. Most of us won’t have gotten wealthy enough to watch from comfortable positions above as it all unfolds.
@Greg:
And what year did Obama reduce the national debt? And why are you changing the subject from the national debt to the national deficit? Or do you think they are one and the same.
Oh, well, that’s you, Greggie Goebbels. Change the subject when you realize your tail is caught in the trap.
@Greg:
“Stimulus” failed. Obama laughed about how they lied about “shovel ready jobs” and his promise of unemployment going no higher than 7.9% missed the mark; Obama’s brilliant recovery brought us 10.2% and that was only reduced by people just giving up looking for jobs that weren’t there or a low paying part time job being all that was available. The WORST labor participation in decades.
Obama ran trillion dollar deficit after trillion dollar deficit and produced NOTHING. Obama failed and Trump revived. Period.
@Deplorable Me: All Greg cares about is how much the government can suck out of the economy to waste, He doesnt care about his fellow Americans getting higher wages and better jobs. From a high of 10% unemployment we have now under 3.6% in May, more Jobs than skilled workers.
@Deplorable Me:
Despite Deplorable Me’s usual bullshit, here’s America under Obama:
The economy gained a net 11.6 million jobs. The unemployment rate dropped to below the historical norm.
Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 4.0 percent after inflation. The gain was 3.7 percent for just production and nonsupervisory employees.
After-tax corporate profits also set records, as did stock prices. The S&P 500 index rose 166 percent.
The number of people lacking health insurance dropped by 15 million.
Home prices rose 20 percent
@Gary Miller: Well, dummy, creating jobs after you destroyed millions and driven the unemployment up to 10.2%, as Obama did, is not too difficult, especially when the jobs are garbage. Trump, meanwhile, has brought back good paying manufacturing jobs. Jobs in the energy industry pay really well, too; something Obama sought to destroy.
Speaking of bullshit, absolutely WRONG.
Wages flat under Obama
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/21/news/economy/obama-state-of-the-union-wages-flat/index.html
https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/you-making-more-than-you-were-four-years-ago/
It’s amazing what can be done with money borrowed at 0.0%, but that’s what Obama’s money-printing extravaganza created… the bill for which is due NOW. But, Trump is responsible for ALL the debt, right?
Though this number includes the 7 million Obama kicked off the insurance they had, forcing them to find new insurance and new doctors (he LIED), HAVING insurance and being able to afford to pay the gigantic deductible and USE the insurance are two totally different things.
I wish you’d quit hogging all the bullshit and let some others have some every once in a while.
@Deplorable Me:
Your links from 2015 and 2016 are simply out-dated. The piece below was updated in September of 2018 and includes this:
“Now we have a reasonably complete statistical picture of the Obama years, which began in the middle of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, and ended with the highest level of household income ever recorded.
These facts often turn out to be at odds with the impressions created by candidates who, for example, claimed wages and incomes were stagnant when in fact they were rising. ”
I know, factcheck is a bunch of liberals.
@Gary Miller:
Oh, really? So when do you think Obama stopped being President, genius?
Yes. Factcheck is a bunch of liberals who promote the liberal agenda.
Media “fact checks” Trump; who fact checks THEM?
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/01/who_factchecks_the_fact_checkers.html
Fact-checker bias
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans
No doubt that with the amazing growth of the Trump economy exposing the incompetence of the Obama economic capabilities history must rapidly be re-written to try, desperately, to lend support to the fantasy that Obama created a healthy, vibrant, growing economy instead of the lethargic, weak, poorly performing failure he presided over. Nothing exemplifies this more than Obama claiming Trump would need a magic wand to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US; Obama had no idea how the economy, industry, business or growth works. He thought if he taxed the profits out of businesses, they would just work harder to make MORE profits to be able to donate to the liberal waste machine. How stupid can you possibly be?
Oh… sorry. Was that too close to home?
Tell me, if Obama had simply laid all the ground work for a growing economy, why did it suddenly EXPLODE the day after Trump won the election? Liberal predictions were that it would totally collapse and never recover (despite all the strength Obama worked o hard to build into it)?
@Deplorable Me:
“Yes. Factcheck is a bunch of liberals who promote the liberal agenda.”
Right on cue, with a link from American Thinker, of all places, along with a piece from U.S. News, both of which don’t even mention Factcheck.org.
Once again, you’re looking awfully foolish here.
Look, I’m happy to help you get updated on the facts, which I’ve presented. The Factcheck.org piece includes a ton of citations, where you can actually read and learn – imagine that!
But it seems to be fun for you to simply spew the usual bile and bullshit.
@Deplorable Me: I see your links are “out dated” ,articles written in real time, before revisionists could manipulate the numbers.
@Gary Miller:
No doubt it would carry more weight with a liberal sycophant that believes ever lie, as long as it comes from a liberal, to have Factcheck.org fact check Factcheck.org. I prefer to live in reality instead of willful ignorance that simply reinforces my prejudiced biases.
No, actually you haven’t. You have, as you always do, presented propaganda. No intelligent person believes Obama did a good job with the economy or is responsible for Trump’s growth phenomenon. Only crybabies looking for an excuse to reinforce their bigoted hatred of Trump and deny that he was the better choice for President in 2016 (and, by all indications, will be the best choice in 2020) believe such ridiculous anti-reality.
Middle, lower class and minorities benefiting most from Trump’s economy
Media reports tax refunds smaller; IRS reports they are larger
https://dmlnews.com/oped-newsrooms-rushed-report-tax-refunds-smaller-year-go-silent-irs-data-showing-refunds-increased/?fbclid=IwAR1uu6uWYXGhm_SypFsJtuVdCH1ycaEB4IgmtxmZfXkGxzA3GC83h02EX5E
289 Trump accomplishments in year 2
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping?fbclid=IwAR15VfzS434YC4PxiiOqME95qLHLsjii_fBaWBgU4JPYBaL6Q6MGbizumpk
Manufacturing jobs growing 714% faster under Trump than under Obama
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/01/04/312000-jobs-added-in-december-manufacturing-growing-714-faster-under-trump-than-obama/?fbclid=IwAR1s3i5VhVh7YRawtv8sh9WI2omil_wbb65nRfL25DuSOxnv_8NT0M6sSGU#7626c1745b50
Obama vs. Trump; first two years
Trump’s tax cuts doing what they were intended to do; spending is the problem
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/11/16/tax-cuts-produce-record-tax-revenues-from-business/
Better jobs under Trump
https://qz.com/1347200/the-jobs-created-under-trump-are-different-than-under-obama/
@kitt: It doesn’t upset me. I fully understand the without making up history, liberals would have nothing to show they haven’t been total idiots and their ruling class has made complete foolish asses of them. For instance, has Gary (or any other of our liberals) bothered to answer what happened to all the evidence they all had right in their hands that PROVED Trump colluded with Russia to win his election? No, they prefer to simply forget how they were lied to, how they believed the lies, and how totally stupid they now look for believing and repeating the lies, and how absolutely without credibility they are for not challenging those lies.