Красота! What you should know about the latest Russian revelation



The general consensus is that Donald Trump Jr. acted unwisely in meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. He did it in person and he left an email trail. Having said that, there is a whole lot more to this story and you best wait for all the shoes to drop.

And they are dropping. Let’s take things piece at a time.

An interview with Veselnitskaya on NBC this morning went like this:

MOSCOW — The Russian lawyer who met with Donald Trump Jr. during the presidential campaign denied in an exclusive interview with NBC News that she had any connection to the Kremlin and insisted she met with President Donald Trump’s son in 2016 to discuss sanctions between Russia and the U.S., not to hand over information about Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

“I never had any damaging or sensitive information about Hillary Clinton. It was never my intention to have that,” Natalia Veselnitskaya said.

Her account appeared to contradict that of Trump Jr., who said on Sunday that the premise of the meeting was to discuss damaging information on Clinton that the lawyer was offering. When asked how Trump Jr. seemed to have the impression that she had information about the Democratic National Committee, she responded:

“It is quite possible that maybe they were longing for such an information. They wanted it so badly that they could only hear the thought that they wanted.”

Actually, it did not contradict Trump Jr. whatsoever. Junior released the email chain and here it is


The email clearly suggests that Hillary Clinton was colluding with the Russians. There is a problem- there is no such thing as a “crown prosecutor” but  Veselnitskaya once worked as a Russian prosecutor. Veselnitskaya had been denied a visa to enter the US but someone in the obama administration granted her a parole letter so she could defend a company called Prevezon Holdings. Somewhere between January and June 9, 2016, Veselnitskaya veered off her course of defending Prevezon Holdings. When she met with Junior she turned the meeting into a discussion of repealing the Magnitsky Act.

During the meeting Veselnitskaya raised the issue of restoring U.S. adoptions inside Russia if the United States would repeal the Magnitsky Act, a law passed in 2012 punishing Moscow for human rights violations in connection with the death of a lawyer who had discovered a massive money laundering scheme inside the country.

That’s really interesting because Putin hates the Magnitsky Act, which was passed to punish Moscow for the death of Sergei Magnitsky.

Vladimir Putin has long reviled the Magnitsky Act and fought to have it repealed. And according to letter from Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Charles Grassley, the Kremlin’s main fight against the law was led by Veselnitskaya’s client, Katsyv.

That would be Denis Katsyv, the owner of Prevezon Holdings, who is being sued by the US for money laundering:

Most notably, Veselnitskaya represented Denis Katsyv, the son of a senior government official and owner of Russian real estate firm Prevezon, which was sued in 2013 by then-Manhattan US Attorney Preet Bharara on charges of laundering money in a massive Russian government tax scam.

As a counter punch, Putin suspends the adoption of Russian babies by US citizens.

Enter Rob Goldstone, the author of the email to Junior.

It was at a beauty pageant in Moscow in 2013 that the Trump’s met the Agalarov family. Rob Goldstone is the publicist for billionaire Aras Agalarov’s son Emin. Goldstone was also the broker for the meeting between Junior and Veselnitskaya. Then Agalarov’s are said to have close ties to Vladimir Putin and Goldstone has strong ties to the Agalarov’s.

So what’s going on?

Congress passes the Magnitsky Act as a response to the “Magnitsky Affair”:

The scam is also known as the Magnitsky affair, named after Sergei Magnitsky, a Russian lawyer for American investment fund manager Bill Browder who is widely believed to have been tortured and killed in a Russian prison after exposing the $230 million fraud.

After Magnitsky’s death, Browder sought justice for his former attorney in the US and Europe and, in 2012, Congress passed the Magnitsky Act, which froze the assets of and denied visas to 44 Russian businessmen believed to have been involved in Magnitsky’s death.

Putin fights to have it repealed and responds by suspending the adoption of Russian babies. Denis Katsyv is the main principal in that fight.

US Attorney Preet Bharara sues Katsyv and Prevezon.

Natalia Veselnitskaya is dispatched allegedly to defend Prevezon and Katsyv.

She meets with Junior about the repeal of the Magnitsky Act. Remember this from above?

“During the meeting Veselnitskaya raised the issue of restoring U.S. adoptions inside Russia if the United States would repeal the Magnitsky Act”

By what authority would she be able to offer the deal? Something like that would have to come from very high up despite Veselnitskaya  denying any connection to the Kremlin.

Now for the fun part.

It is asserted that Prevezon hired one Fusion GPS:

Glenn Simpson is a former Wall Street Journal correspondent who cofounded firms, SNS Global and Fusion GPS, which specialize in generating negative press against their clients’ opponents. ii. Four different journalists at the Financial Times, New York Times and the Wall Street Journal have all confirmed to Hermitage that Glenn Simpson has been hired by Prevezon to lobby for the anti-Magnitsky Campaign.

Veselnitskaya is also said to have hired Fusion GPS. Yeah, THAT Fusion GPS:

“Fusion GPS is the company behind the creation of the unsubstantiated dossier alleging a conspiracy between President Trump and Russia,” Mr Grassley wrote in the letter. “It is highly troubling that Fusion GPS appears to have been working with someone with ties to Russian intelligence – let alone someone alleged to have conducted political disinformation campaigns– as part of a pro-Russia lobbying effort while also simultaneously overseeing the creation of the Trump-Russia dossier.”

Fusion has been stalling Congress for some time now. We have yet to learn about the depth of the connection between Fusion GPS and the Kremlin.


Veselnitskaya is listed as a managing partner at Kamerton Consulting. It has no website, working phone or email. Eight days after meeting with Junior, somehow she is sitting immediately behind obama’s  Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul during a Foreign Affairs Committee hearing:



How exactly does that happen? How does a Russian lawyer defending a client being sued by a US Attorney wind up in this seat?


It appears that Junior had a carrot dangled in front of him- that Hillary Clinton was colluding with the Russians. He naively jumped at it, but was met by Veselnitskaya (probably an agent acting on Putin’s behalf and in the US using the defense of Prevezon as a ruse) who sought a deal; repeal of the Magnitsky Act – so desired by Putin- in return for the resumption of adoption of Russian babies. Junior didn’t bite. Goldstone was probably a stooge for the Agalarov’s in brokering the meeting as a favor to Putin. Fusion GPS is connected to this but how deep remains to be seen.

And we definitely need to know what obama’s connection is with Veselnitskaya.


The NY Times colluded with the Russians to win the Pulitzer Prize:

An article published in December 2016 that helped a team of New York Times reporters win a 2017 Pulitzer Prize drew a great deal of content from an independent Russian news site based in Latvia, bringing up thorny questions about how media giants capitalize on the work of local outlets.

The story by Andrew E. Kramer was one piece in a series about Russia that brought the Times the Pulitzer, but it “spells out the same narrative” as an article in the news website Meduza, according to BuzzFeed News. Kramer’s article focused on Aleksandr Vyarya, a computer programmer who fled Russia after refusing a government hacking job and whose experience was recounted in September 2015 by Meduza reporter Daniil Turovsky.

“The only thing which really makes me angry is that he [Kramer] got this Pulitzer Prize,” Ivan Kolpakov, the editor-in-chief of Meduza, told BuzzFeed. “It was our exclusive reporting on Aleksandr Vyarya.”


I thought initially that Goldstone might have been playing Veselnitskaya and Junior on behalf of the Agalarov’s against each other until she offered the deal for resumption of the adoptions in return for repeal of the Magnitsky Act. She has juice and that juice could come from only one place.

Veselnitskaya is a spy.






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@Redteam, #98:

That a nation exists as a republic doesn’t necessarily mean that a majority of its citizens have any right to vote in the election of representatives. In a pure republic, representatives might be elected only by the landed gentry, or only by property-owning white males, for example. Power in such a situation would not be broadly vested in the demos, or the common people; only in certain classes of people.

In a democratic republic most citizens are constitutionally guaranteed a right to vote for the people who represent them. That’s what the United States is—a democratic republic. It’s as much a democracy as a republic. It’s both things at once.


Dream on. Republicans aren’t only setting themselves to be run out of town on rails, come 2018 and 2020;

Love that strategy, that’s why Trump is president. While the Dims were on cloud nine thinking America was screwed up enough to elect the beast, the screwed up people were nominating and voting for the winner. Hope you stick with your strategy.


In a democratic republic most citizens are constitutionally guaranteed a right to vote for the people who represent them

Actually, you’re thinking of: In a constitutional republic most citizens are constitutionally guaranteed a right to vote for the people who represent them. Not sure what the objective of attempting to re’ label the country after being well known as a constitutional republic for over 200 years. Do you really think Dumbocrap Republic sounds better than Constitutional Republic.?

“Believing as I do that the mass of the citizens is the safest depository of their own rights, and especially that the evils flowing from the duperies of the people are less injurious than those from the egoism of their agents, I am a friend to that composition of government which has in it the most of this ingredient.” ~Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816.

Relabeling? It always seems to be the right that brings up the labeling issue, insisting that the word democracy be shoved into the back corner of some dark closet. They want to control thought by controlling terminology. It’s clear to me what Thomas Jefferson was saying, and he didn’t need to mention either term to be understood.


I think republicans are going to get full credit for the disaster they’re creating by refusing to legislatively address any of the ACA’s problems, while simultaneously failing to provide anything that remotely resembles an acceptable alternative themselves

Of course they’ll get the blame. They get the blame for everything, thanks to the corrupt media. They are blamed because the bill the Democrats created is cratering exactly as predicted. What else is new?

The question I posed earlier remains unanswered; where are the Democrat solutions to the enormous mess they created? Blaming is all liberals are good for; they never offer solutions.

Yes, Obamacare IS the total absence of a plan.

@Deplorable Me, #104:

They’ll get the blame because they’re more dysfunctional as elected officials than the Three Stooges were as plumbers.

Entire Democratic Caucus Urges GOP Leadership to Drop Repeal Efforts and Work in Bipartisan Way to Improve America’s Healthcare System

Here’s a preview of what republicans are soon going to be hearing, if they don’t snap out of it and turn their attention to a cooperative effort to fix specific ACA problems.

GOP’s 7-year ObamaCare blood oath ends in failure

How about this Mr. President? You stop doing everything in your power to sabotage ObamaCare, which you have done from the moment you entered the Oval Office. Stop refusing to advertise enrollment on the exchanges. Stop refusing to enforce the individual mandate, which is what will help make the exchanges solvent and viable for years to come. Stop threatening to withhold the subsidies to health insurance companies they were promised under ObamaCare in order to cover low-income Americans at lower rates.

All of the above actions have injected a poisonous brew of uncertainty into the marketplace that has led to insurers withdrawing from markets, leaving the exchanges and hiking up their premiums.

But don’t take my word for it, just listen to insurance company CEOs and state insurance commissioners, many of whom are Republican. They have complained loudly and on-the-record that the Trump administration has caused the kind of uncertainty in the markets that has forced them to retreat from certain markets and raise prices.

This is NOT ObamaCare imploding or collapsing on its own weight. It is Trump and Republicans killing it softly and behind the scenes and then cleaning the crime scene with bleach and screaming that ObamaCare is dying of its own failures.

@Greg: No one sabotaged Obamacare but the idiots that created it.

Far from cutting health care costs, Obamacare has driven costs up and requires hundreds of billions of dollars to prop up.

Again, how would the Democrats fix it? They won’t even admit what the problems are.

To begin with, they would promote exchange enrollment, allow the IRS to enforce the mandate as the law requires, and assure insurance companies that the promised subsidies will be continued.

They might then turn their attention to allowing competition across state lines, getting control of run-away malpractice settlements, and figuring out how to rein in absurdly high prescription drug prices. Surely republicans could support some of that, given that they’ve made some of the same suggestions themselves.

They might also allow the Secretary of HHS to negotiate for lower Part D prescription drug prices. That should never have been banned to begin with.

@Greg: Why didn’t you just honestly say that you don’t have a clue?

To begin with, they would promote exchange enrollment, allow the IRS to enforce the mandate as the law requires,

So go back to ‘enforcing’ some of the main reasons it’s failed?

how to rein in absurdly high prescription drug prices.

Just change the time to lessen how long a manufacturer has exclusive right to a new medicine. Generic’s are dirt cheap.

They might also allow the Secretary of HHS to negotiate for lower Part D prescription drug prices. That should never have been banned to begin with.

That’s not a part of the problem. I take 6 prescriptions and the total (and I mean total) yearly cost for all of them is $180. That’s $15 a month and 0 for each prescription. Do you think that needs reducing? Is that without any negotiations for lower prices?


and He’s Connected to Russia. What Are the Odds?

And even better odds that he’s on DNC payroll.

Why did George bring you back? He in trouble?

July 19, 2017: 32 million more Americans would be uninsured by 2026 under Senate measure heading to a vote next week, CBO projects

Congressional budget analysts estimated Wednesday that a Senate plan to repeal part of the Affordable Care Act with no immediate replacement would increase the number of people without health coverage by 17 million next year and 32 million at the end of a decade. The forecast by the Congressional Budget Office of the impact on coverage of the Senate GOP’s latest health-care legislation is nearly identical to estimates the CBO made in January based on a similar bill that passed both the House and Senate in late 2015 – and was vetoed by then-President Barack Obama.

The new report also said the legislation would decrease federal deficits by $473 billion over that 10-year window.

And how much would high-end tax cuts cost in increased deficits over the same period? Do you see how this works?


They might then turn their attention to allowing competition across state lines, getting control of run-away malpractice settlements,

OH! The monumental, massive hypocrisy!! If this is such a great idea, why didn’t the Democrats listen to the Republicans in 2009 and include it then? Well, because Democrats cobbled this crap together behind closed doors and in the dark of night… you know, like they are accusing the Republicans of doing now.

32 million more Americans would be uninsured by 2026 under Senate measure heading to a vote next week, CBO projects

Hmmm. This didn’t seem to bother any liberals when Obamacare was scored.


Why not, Greg? Did you liberals just want those 30 million people to die or did you not trust the CBO? Or, was it simply not reported, because all that mattered was getting the ball rolling on socialism?

Oh… and it would add $2 trillion to the debt. Meh.

@Greg: Greg, you shouldn’t try to make your Obozocare look even worse than it already does. You do realize that it is still our healthcare law and it is what’s killing all the people, cost wise, right?
I find it strange so many libs are bashing obozocare, I thought they loved it. If something is not done, no one will have insurance. Almost every state now doesn’t even have exchanges anymore. Not sure where anyone can get a policy if one is not available. Maybe the Repubs can get something passed to keep everyone from losing their coverage.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: It has never been about insurance. It has been about socialism. The dumbocraps just wanted another mechanism to tax people while dangling a plum over their head. well, they got their tax increase and not only did the people not get the plum, it got fed to a bird and the people got a poker stuck up their butts.

Trump is blasting Sessions and going after Mueller. If this administration were a steam engine boiler, I’d be quickly backing away at this point.