The accusations of Jeff Sessions lying to Congress are flying around, accompanied by calls for his prosecution and his resignation. However, democrat appointees have lied to Congress repeatedly over the last eight years.
DNI James Clapper:
It was an exchange made famous not because of what was said at the time, but because of what Americans discovered later.
At the tail end of a rare open session of the Senate Intelligence Committee on March 12, 2013, Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., asked National Intelligence Director James Clapper whether intelligence officials collect data on Americans.
Clapper responded “No, sir,” and, “Not wittingly.”
It was a lie. How was it later explained away?
Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper wasn’t lying when he wrongly told Congress in 2013 that the government does not “wittingly” collect information about millions of Americans, according to his top lawyer.
He just forgot.
“This was not an untruth or a falsehood. This was just a mistake on his part,” Robert Litt, the general counsel for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, said during a panel discussion hosted by the Advisory Committee on Transparency on Friday.
“We all make mistakes.”
Was he charged with perjury or forced to resign? Of course not.
CIA Director James Brennan
As reports emerged Thursday that an internal investigation by the Central Intelligence Agency’s inspector general found that the CIA “improperly” spied on US Senate staffers when researching the CIA’s dark history of torture, it was hard to conclude anything but the obvious: John Brennan blatantly lied to the American public. Again.
“The facts will come out,” Brennan told NBC News in March after Senator Dianne Feinstein issued a blistering condemnation of the CIA on the Senate floor, accusing his agency of hacking into the computers used by her intelligence committee’s staffers. “Let me assure you the CIA was in no way spying on [the committee] or the Senate,” he said.
After the CIA inspector general’s report completely contradicted Brennan’s statements, it now appears Brennan was forced to privately apologize to intelligence committee chairs in a “tense” meeting earlier this week. Other Senators on Thursday pushed for Brennan to publicly apologize and called for an independent investigation.
Was he charged with perjury or forced to resign? Of course not.
Attorney General Eric Holder:
In his testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, Eric Holder was asked whether the Justice Department could prosecute reporters under the Espionage Act of 1917. This was his answer:
In regard to potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material — this is not something I’ve ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be wise policy.
Later, the Department of Justice disclosed that Holder had personally approved the application for the search warrant for James Rosen’s Gmail account:
[T]he Department took great care in deciding that a search warrant was necessary in the Kim matter, vetting the decision at the highest levels of the Department, including discussions with the Attorney General. After extensive deliberations, and after following all applicable laws, regulations and policies, the Department sought an appropriately tailored search warrant under the Privacy Protection Act.
It was so egregious that even HuffPo was outraged:
While worrisome, to be sure, the government’s characterization of Rosen’s actions is not quite the declaration of war against the news media that it first appears — for reasons I’ll discuss in a minute. Nonetheless, the leak investigation of Rosen, as detailed in the FBI affidavit, does represent the crossing of another red line: the government’s pursuit and seizure of the contents of email messages to and from a journalist.
Was Holder charged with perjury or forced to resign? Of course not.
The obama administration has also spied on Angela Merkel and Benjamin Netanyahu. obama has not shown a reluctance to spy on Americans but has been completely resistant to holding anyone account for the wrongs- not for Fast and Furious, the IRS targeting or anything else. democrats long ago surrendered their moral authority for wrongdoing. The denials from James Clapper about the obama administration spying on Donald Trump ring hollow.
Trump intentionally put “wire tap” in parentheses. There really is no doubt Trump was being surveilled. Hillary Clinton boasted about it.
It would completely be in character for obama to be spying on a political opponent in the middle of an election and then lie about it. After all, lying carries no consequences for democrats.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 40 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 45 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter who is in the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
@Greg:
Except for unions, right? If someone donates enough to the Democrats, they get to be excluded from being “leveled”, don’t they?
Liberals are not good levelers, though. They don’t seem to have any idea of how to raise people up out of poverty, so they work really hard to cripple those at the top. Republicans believe it should be otherwise; provide the environment for anyone willing to endeavor (you can prop up all the failures you want and they will still be failures) to take opportunity and turn it into success.
The United States has become wealthy because people have become wealthy. This makes OTHER people desire to become wealthy and work towards that end. I worked my way up from VERY modest means to be able to, soon I hope, retire relatively comfortably. I am certainly NOT someone that needs to be leveled back, but that was EXACTLY what happened with MY health care. Evidently, the goal was to give the APPEARANCE of “leveling” while creating numerous worthless coverage plans and taking before-tax benefits away from working people.
The left cannot conceive policies that open economic benefits to ALL because they are deathly afraid someone might grow wealthy. Though the left is RIFE with wealthy meddling know-it-alls, they worry incessantly that someone might enterprise themselves into wealth; they prefer to take the money and decide, themselves, who should get their dole and how much. Under these circumstances, no one would want to TRY to become wealthy and, therefore, there would be nothing to dole out. Liberals simply do not understand ambition, other than the ambition to control the thoughts and lives of others.
We are $20 trillion in debt because of Obama’s waste of 10 trillion borrowed dollars.
The GOP’s ACA replacement is facing strong headwinds:
Doctors, hospitals and insurers oppose Republican health plan
@Greg: Greggie, they would have opposed Obolacare if anyone would have had the chance to read it!! Obolacare is a failure Greggie!!
@Greg:
I don’t think most conservatives are opposed to abortion if done before the baby is viable, or when it becomes known that the woman is pregnant and doesn’t want to keep the child. But she should not be allowed to keep it until it can survive and then order it killed. That’s what the dims are all about. Obozo, when a state legislator, actually voted that when a child is born alive, if she had asked for an abortion, that the baby had to be killed. That’s what Dims are all about.
@Greg:
You are 100% wrong. It can not even be recorded. The monitor is not even allowed to allow the American’s side to be recorded. Without it being legally recorded, it doesn’t exist and therefore can not be used for any reason. If it is recorded, the monitor is breaking the law and if it is used, released, then the person doing that is breaking the law.
Dims are really struggling with trying to prove that Trump’s people were ‘recorded’ doing something illegal, when if they did record it, the persons doing the recording were doing something illegal.
@Greg:
You seem to be conveniently forgetting about the revisions that were sent to Obozo which he did not sign.
@July 4th:
Yep, copyrighted material.
@Greg:
Well, hell, Greg, if that’s what you want, move to Denmark. That’s almost exactly what they have there. You can actually clear about 20% of every check you earn over there. But no worries because all that tax money pays for everything else. It even pays for all the people that don’t work. Just as it would here. Yep, you seem to want to support everyone except yourself. There are several countries where that has failed nicely.
@RedTeam:
That is the dream of the left where ever the hell they are. Punish the producers by confiscating their wealth and giving it to the parasites. It is what they like to call equality for all. Forced egalitarianism, it eventually makes everyone equally miserable, see north korea….
the Demac-RATS get away with lying becuase their more highly favored by the lie a day news media reptiles
@July 4th American, #49:
If 13.1 million American children are are chronically malnourished while billionaires sit on their fat posteriors discussing how they can cut the food stamp program to push their own tax rates lower, yes, there most definitely is something moral about it.
You can’t build a just and moral nation on a foundation of unbridled greed. A desire for wealth is good. A compulsion to acquire without limit is a socially destructive mental disorder.
Taking from one to give to another by the force of law is immoral and theft.
Gee, I wonder what malnourished people did before government began stealing from the producers to give to paracites.
The fact that 13.1 million American children are chronically malnourished does not mean that they’re parasites.
Maybe some of the billionaires are parasites. A very successful tapeworm is still a tapeworm. Your premise seems to be that the possession of great material wealth is automatically evidence that someone has made positive contributions to society to acquire it. Any number of drug cartel figures could be cited as obvious evidence to the contrary. There are far more looters who manage to stay within the technical limitations of the law than there are drug cartel kingpins. There are billionaires who pay no taxes for years, relying on technically legal evasions. Apparently legal theft is OK.
@Greg:
What you have to do is examine the root cause instead of continually throwing (other people’s) money at it.
First, the “wealthy” contribute 80% of the tax revenues. They also provide most of the jobs where the REST of it comes from. Next, since 1965, liberal policies have INCREASED the number of those in poverty instead of helping them. THAT’S immoral.
So is luring into the country millions of other poor people who drain resources from those malnourished children you pretend to care about.
Should we expect those who have nothing to pay the most taxes?
Sounds like the troll has a chip on his shoulder for the successful.
@Greg: @Greg: Cite who recommends that.
Should we expect the successful to donate the majority of their earnings to a government that wastes 50% and has been producing MORE, not less, poverty?
Why don’t YOU donate ALL your wealth, earnings and possessions to the causes you hold so dear? Then maybe you would understand a bit better what you expect others to do.
@Greg:
You do realize you’re pushing the argument that all these selfish billionaire’s are Conservatives, right? Well, in fact there are more Dimocrap billionaires than there are Conservatives. But they didn’t get there by not having their money taxed fairly, they got there by being crooks. Especially the guy you’re working for.
I like to think of wealth disparities as diversity. The left argues for the celebration of diversity but in this instance too much diversity is not good. Hum, can not quite figure out where the left stands on their issues of the day….
@Greg: Why did Obama make the income and wealth disparity worse? I guess he doesn’t care about those 13.1 million waifs either.
He didn’t make it worse. The upward redistribution of wealth and income has been a long established trend, continuing now for decades. You don’t turn the Titanic around that quickly.
Trump isn’t even trying. He’s putting it the ship back on it’s original course, straight for the iceberg.
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19 times Trump called the jobs numbers “fake” before they made him look good
What’s it like to be so gullible that absurd 180-degree reversals like that don’t even register?
By the way, the new right-wing catch phrase “deep state” has a very specific meaning to those in the DoS and the intelligence community who have long used it. I hope we’re not going to be hearing this as frequently as “snowflake” and “ilk.”
Spicer is Trump’s propaganda tool. I feel sorry for him, because he’s smart enough to realize it, and the discomfort of that realization often shows on his face. I don’t think he’ll be holding the job for long. The stress levels are toxic, and he won’t be able to stand it.
@Greg: What was significant was the composition of the jobs report. Manufacturing jobs up. Labor participation up.
greg is about to lose his mind since his Kenyan born bff has been sacked. America told obama to GFH. America no longer has any interest in obama.
@Greg:
What 180 reversal? Wasn’t Obozo claiming the unemployment was going down every month? You are one gullible POS.
The totally obvious one, to anyone who has an attention span greater than that of a fruit fly; the 180-degree reversal from “All the good jobs reports numbers are fake,” to “The numbers are now entirely accurate, and proof of my superior leadership skills.”
The obama economy never produced GDP growth of 3% in any one year, the first president in modern times to achieve such an accomplishment.
@Greg: I know you’re not going to understand this, but a 180 means going in the opposite direction. Obozo has been claiming unemployment has been going down. Trump claims it is going down. Obozo said employment was going up. :Trump says it is going up. So tell us again where the reversal is.
“All the good jobs reports numbers are fake,” to “The numbers are now entirely accurate, and proof of my superior leadership skills ” would be a complete reversal. Before they were fake, now they’re real, when nothing about their nature has changed in any way.
The two opposite appraisals can’t both be true. How can people believe anything this guy says? He says whatever is convenient in the moment.
@RedTeam:
A recession leaves a ratified atmosphere in which explosive economic expansion can follow. Obama successfully kept this in check, so economic opportunity and growth did not get out of control. Trump is ignoring the necessary steps to keep the economy from growing. What an idiot. I bet the Russians are making him allow the economy to do what it does best… grow and provide jobs and economic opportunity.
Of course, liberals always worry someone might get rich from their efforts. I guess Trump will ignore tamping that down, too.
@Greg: Obozo says the unemployment was getting better, Trump says it’s getting better. I see no 180. The real unemployment still remains above 50%. I don’t expect Trump to start using that number any more than I expected Obozo to use it. Notice: that is 50% not 5%. There are more people in the job market that are not working, than are working.
@July 4th American:
And, of course, that number means absolutely nothing. It has no relationship to the number of people in the job market that don’t have a job. It is only a measure of the number of people that have actually applied for a job in the last 4 weeks. The longer a person is out of the job market, the less often they apply for a job.
@Redteam
The U3 rate has long been under suspicion as an inaccurate measure. The U6 is a better reflection of the unreported factors in the U3.
Trump urges insurers to work together to ‘save Americans from Obamacare’
Why did he think the Affordable Care Act was complicated? It’s not because anyone likes complicated legislation. It’s because the nation’s health care system, funding system, and health insurance industry are enormously complex.
That’s because he has no details and never did. He’s not a Miracle Non-Stick Skillet engineer. He’s only a pitchman for them on late-night cable.
What it will do is shift the financial burden of Medicaid to the individual states, many of which will not be able to meet it. They can then be held responsible for the inadequacies that result, while having no power to raise taxes to address them. It’ll be GREAT!
So, let’s summarize that appraisal and plan: The Affordable Care Act is still a failed disaster—despite the fact that republicans have been doing everything in their power to kick the props out from under it for 7 years—but if they only keep trying, they can certainly bring it down into ruin. Insurance companies can continue to help with this project. When the ACA at last collapses, they can then blame the Democrats and President Obama. And whatever they offer as a replacement—no matter how inadequate for some—will be seen by most as better than nothing.
The unaffordable no heath care act was going to fail on its own. The democrat party never intended for it to work. As absent as have been the republicans as an opposition party, they never did anything to either assist the law or destroy the law.
The democrat party owns this disaster.
Yeah, right. “The patient is going to die on his own. He’s sick, and it’s inevitable. Ignore the fact that we’re repeatedly trying to smother him with his pillow.”
Trump:
Do you understand the meaning of the poker expression, “to tip your hand?”
@July 4th American: As far as I can figure there are 6 formula’s U1-U6 none of them seem to bear any relationship to reality. There are about 325 million persons in the US. approx 172 million of them are either working or would like to be working. Of that 172 million, approx 97 million are not working. that works out to about 56% unemployment. Numbers can be played with in many ways, but if you want a job and you can’t find one, you are 100% unemployed. 97/172 = 56% unemployed. That means there are about 75 million fully employed persons.
No politician is ever going to admit that unemployment is 56%. It doesn’t bother me to admit the truth.
@Greg: 86
So? Why do you or anyone feel as if someone’s medical care is the public’s responsibility? I feel as if I am responsible for my own healthcare. I’ve paid for insurance all my working life, no one else is paying for it for me. If someone is not able to do so, then let them go to an emergency care facility, which the government pays for and get their care. No one will ever have to pay for my care, I’ve already done it. I’m not ‘entitled’ to it. I bought it, it’s mine.
My understanding is that we all are our brother and sister’s keepers, and I’m not even all that religious. I’ve done well in the world. I’m fortunate. Not everyone has had the same opportunities, capabilities, or generally good fortune.
I am no more responsible for anyone elses healthcare than they would be of mine. It is an absurd assertion.
Health care is not a right, period.
You can save that opinion to share with the mother of a very sick child, who can’t afford health insurance because she’s stuck in some minimum wage job. Don’t forget to smile as you tell her. You can also point out that she has no right to publicly funded family planning services provided by Planned Parenthood, and that if she inadvertently becomes pregnant again she has no choice about continuing that, either, because she has no “right” to decide.
Their problem not mine asshat. How many minimum wage parents of sick children have you paid for their care. Another democrat party talking point.
Tell us, what else am I responsible for with respect to to those less able or willing to provide for themselves?
It’s hard to say. That’s where part of the taxes I’ve paid every year for over 40 years now have gone, and will continue to go. Maybe I’ll eventually get much of that back in the form of Medicare-covered services, but I’m a very long way from that point.
CNN Cuts Trump’s Feed During Obamacare Victims Meeting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMN6cCWqUBo
@Greg: When Obamacare kicked 7 million off their insurance, many that were undergoing desperately needed treatments lost their doctors and coverage. Who knows how many died, but many certainly suffered the pain and anxiety of needing treatment, losing it and having to arrange for new avenues of treatment. Yet, no one on the left worried about anyone that had taken their health care responsibilities upon themselves that got screwed by Obama.
To the left, all Obamacare was about was power; power over people, telling them they had to buy something and what they had to buy (it was just bonus elitist points that they made people pay for coverage that was worthless.
Obamacare has been a disaster. The corrective action is going to hurt, but it was all brought about by Democrats.
I’ve never seen documentation that Obamacare kicked anybody off their insurance. Insurance companies did indeed drop plans that didn’t meet ACA minimum standards; some employers dropped employee coverage. It became very common to cite Obamacare as the reason—or excuse. I do recall that the facts of many of the stories told by Obamacare opponents turned out to be very different than what was reported.
How many of the 7 million who lost insurance were people who didn’t regain coverage under ACA provisions immediately or shortly thereafter? That’s the figure that matters, and I never see anyone reporting it.
@July 4th American, #97:
I don’t think CNN cut anybody’s feed. The White House seems to have cut part of the discussion. The video of the meeting posted by the White House itself is at the bottom of this page. Coverage begins at the 27:00 time mark. Couey’s comments are now missing altogether.
Carrie Couey, on Twitter. She seems quite partisan.