Senator Ted Kennedy Dead at 77

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From his Senate web page:

Statement from The Kennedy Family
August 26, 2009

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

“Edward M. Kennedy – the husband, father, grandfather, brother and uncle we loved so deeply – died late Tuesday night at home in Hyannis Port. We’ve lost the irreplaceable center of our family and joyous light in our lives, but the inspiration of his faith, optimism, and perseverance will live on in our hearts forever. We thank everyone who gave him care and support over this last year, and everyone who stood with him for so many years in his tireless march for progress toward justice, fairness and opportunity for all. He loved this country and devoted his life to serving it. He always believed that our best days were still ahead, but it’s hard to imagine any of them without him.”

A review of Kennedy’s legacy below the fold.

As soon as cancer was found in Ted Kennedy, it was noticed the immediate attempt at canonization of old Teddy by the main stream media. They are saying what a “great American” he is. I say, let’s get a things clear and not twist the facts to change the REAL history.

1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended first attended the school. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him.

2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops, the man can’t count to four. His father, womanizer Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea, where a war was raging. No preferential treatment for him like “he” charged former President Bush of receiving.

3. Kennedy was assigned to Paris, never advanced beyond the rank of private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged. Imagine a person of his “education” NEVER advancing past the rank of private.

4. While attending law school at the University of Virginia, he was cited for reckless driving four times, including once when he was clocked driving 90 miles per hour in a residential neighborhood with his headlights off after dark. Yet his Virginia driver’s license was never revoked. Coincidentally, he passed the bar exam in 1959, amazing!

5. In 1964, he was seriously injured in a plane crash, and hospitalized for several months. Test results done by the hospital at the time he was admitted had shown he was legally intoxicated. The results of those tests remained a “state secret” until in the 1980’s when the report was unsealed. Didn’t hear about that from the unbiased media, did we?

6. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy (another notorious womanizer like his dad and brothers) attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts. At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur’s keys to his Oldsmobile limousine, and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and into Poucha Pond.

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7. He swam to shore and walked back to the party, after passing several houses and a fire station. Then two friends returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew, that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying, Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car. The Kennedy family began “calling in favors,” ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family, before an autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne, and he didn’t call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident, Kennedy’s “political enemies” have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick. He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS. Kopechne’s family received a small payout from Kennedy’s insurance policy, and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy’s family paid their attorney’s bills a “token of friendship”?

8. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. He authored or argued for legislation that ensured a variety of civil rights, increased the minimum wage in 1981, made access to health care easier for the indigent, and funded Meals on Wheels for fixed-income seniors and is widely held as the “standard-bearer for “liberalism.” In his very first Senate role, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries.

9. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of and increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court nominees, as if he were the standard bearer for the nation in matters of right. What a pompous idiot!

10. He is known around Washington as a public drunk, loud, boisterous and very disrespectful to ladies. JERK is a better description than “great American”.

Let’s not allow the spin doctors make this jerk a hero by short-memory Americans lest we forget what his real legacy is.

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So Long Teddy, Time to go.
146,000 days later than Mary Jo
The Provo Bomb planters will raise a cheer
For the man who did little except drink too much beer.

The endless expansion of the government state
Will be the legacy of a man who ruled to mate.
A patronising speaker twenty four seven
Unlikely you’re with your Nazi daddy in heaven.

http://brackenworld.blogspot.com/

Agreed, lets not make this jerk a hero.

I hate to be cruel and unsympathetic but I have to say it …. its good news for ‘Team Obama’ and the Democrat Congress they have got the distraction they desperately needed.
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My condolences to his family.

TV to off mode.

In the Book by Lt. Colonel Patterson, Reckless Disrequard, pages, 8,9, 10, 11, . Kennedy had a relationship with the russians during Carter, and Reagan. Wanting guidance on how to counter Reagan in military policy and create some business for him and his friends.

Why they got away with this, I’ll never know. This was discovered in the 90’s i think when the soviet archives were opened, and became public. John Kerrys name comes up. Kennedy used John Tuney as his messenger to Yuri Andropov . Some soviet defectors brought this info. to the US.

I guess the soviet union was right about defeating the U.S. from within.

Col. Patterson carried the Nuclear Football for Clinton for 2 years. He has a couple books out being that he was the proverbial fly on the wall.

Back in my younger days, when both my parents were still here among us and they would argue politics, my Mom, a die hard Conservative would bring up Ted Kennedy to my Dad.
She listened to Rush every day, and would recite the same sentiments listed in this post, and express exasperation about how in God’s name the man, Kennedy, Godless Heathen, could continue to be elected as a US Senator.

My Dad, a man of few words, looked at her and simply said, “He gets elected because the majority of the people he represents apparently think he represents their interests and vote for him.”

Admittedly, I have not researched this but can someone say why the Kopechne family would help hide all of this? Obvious things come to mind but … I don’t want to leap to conclusions without the facts.

Some could say that there was something similar in a case in Georgia:
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5 Years for Driver in Ga. Decapitation

“The two were on their way home from a bar after a night of drinking when Brohm stuck his head out the window because he thought he was going to be sick, authorities said.

Police said Hutcherson was unaware of the decapitation and drove more than 10 miles to his parents’ home, went inside and fell asleep with the headless body still in his truck. A neighbor discovered the body the next morning.”

Brohm’s family asked for leniency for Hutcherson, who was a childhood friend of the victim.
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Were the Kopechne and the Kennedy families THAT tight knit?

Don’t get me wrong but, had that been my child, I don’t think there would be enough influence nor money to keep me quiet and stop me from getting his head on a pike one way or another.
I would have done all in my power to discredit him and/or destroy his political career.

@mooseburger: That doesn’t saying much for the majority of the voters in Massachusetts.

hmmm – looks like my comment went into filter

Aye:

It figures you and others on this site would dig up old negative stuff rather than the good this man did for this country… It appears you can only see positive things about righties.

He worked tirelessly to improve schools, help the poor, protect civil rights, raising the minimum wage and expand the health care system.

Of course the righties don’t approve of any of this so you instead post the negative.

This speaks volumes about YOU!!!

@mooseburger:

My Dad, a man of few words, looked at her and simply said, “He gets elected because the majority of the people he represents apparently think he represents their interests and vote for him.”

It was actually about Money and Influence. It was not an issue of Character or Integrity re: Teddy.
It was all about the Son of a bootlegger and a Nazi sympathizer.

In 1938, Roosevelt appointed Kennedy as the United States Ambassador to the Court of St. James’s (Britain). Kennedy’s Irish and Catholic status did not bother the British; indeed he hugely enjoyed his leadership position in London society, which stood in stark contrast to his outsider status in Boston. His daughter Kathleen married the heir to the Duke of Devonshire, the head of one of England’s grandest aristocratic families. Kennedy rejected the warnings of Winston Churchill that compromise with Nazi Germany was impossible; instead he supported Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain’s policy of appeasement in order to stave off a second world war that would be a more horrible “armageddon” than the first. Throughout 1938, as the Nazi persecution of Jews intensified, Kennedy attempted to obtain an audience with Adolf Hitler. Shortly before the Nazi aerial bombing of British cities began in September 1940, Kennedy sought a personal meeting with Hitler, again without State Department approval, “to bring about a better understanding between the United States and Germany.”

Kennedy argued strongly against giving aid to Britain.

“Democracy is finished in England. It may be here,” stated Ambassador Kennedy in the Boston Sunday Globe of November 10, 1940. In that one simple statement, Joe Kennedy ruined any future chances of becoming US president, effectively committing political suicide. While bombs fell daily on the UK, Nazi troops occupied Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands, and France, Ambassador Kennedy unambiguously and repeatedly stated his belief that the war was not about saving democracy from National Socialism (Nazism) or Fascism. In the now-infamous, long, rambling interview with two newspaper journalists, Louis M. Lyons of the Boston Globe and Ralph Coghlan of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Kennedy opined:

“It’s all a question of what we do with the next six months. The whole reason for aiding England is to give us time.” … “As long as she is in there, we have time to prepare. It isn’t that [Britain is] fighting for democracy. That’s the bunk. She’s fighting for self-preservation, just as we will if it comes to us… I know more about the European situation than anybody else, and it’s up to me to see that the country gets it,”

Kennedy was (for a while) a close friend with the leading Jewish lawyer Felix Frankfurter, who helped Kennedy get his sons into the London School of Economics, where they worked with Harold Laski, a leading Jewish intellectual and prominent Socialist. While holding positive attitudes towards individual Jews, Kennedy’s views of the Jews as a people were, by his own admission, overwhelmingly negative.

According to Harvey Klemmer, who served as one of Kennedy’s embassy aides, Kennedy habitually referred to Jews as “kikes or sheenies.” Kennedy allegedly told Klemmer that “[some] individual Jews are all right, Harvey, but as a race they stink. They spoil everything they touch.” When Klemmer returned from a trip to Germany and reported the pattern of vandalism and assault on Jews by Nazis, Kennedy responded, “Well, they brought it on themselves.”

On June 13, 1938, Kennedy met with Herbert von Dirksen, the German ambassador in London, who claimed in Berlin that Kennedy had told him that “it was not so much the fact that we want to get rid of the Jews that was so harmful to us, but rather the loud clamor with which we accompanied this purpose. [Kennedy] himself fully understood our Jewish policy.”Kennedy’s main concern with such violent acts against German Jews as Kristallnacht was that they generated bad publicity in the West for the Nazi regime, a concern he communicated in a letter to Charles Lindbergh.

Teddy rode his brothers coat tails into the Senate. He was a drunkard and a womanizer. He championed liberal causes and delivered a stinging and slanderous address on the Senate floor before Robert Bork’s confirmation hearings for SCOTUS. The Teddy Kennedy legacy was believing that they were royalty of sorts. That is what I will remember as well as his Chappaquiddick adventure. Politics, Money and Influence.

May he rest in peace and his detractors be reminded that they are not free of sin.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/08/26/beyond_camelot_his_shining_moments_endure/

@Real American Patriot:

They couldn’t even give it a day.

From your side….

Nancy Reagan, wife of former President Ronald Reagan:

Given our political differences, people are sometimes surprised by how close Ronnie and I have been to the Kennedy family. But Ronnie and Ted could always find common ground, and they had great respect for one another. In recent years, Ted and I found our common ground in stem cell research, and I considered him an ally and a dear friend. I will miss him.

Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin:

I would like to extend our sympathies to the Kennedy family as we hear word about the passing of Senator Ted Kennedy. He believed in our country and fought passionately for his convictions.


House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio):

The people of Massachusetts and the United States Congress have lost a tireless public servant.

Ted Kennedy was my friend. While there were few political issues on which he and I agreed, our relationship was never disagreeable, and was always marked by good humor, hard work, and a desire to find common ground.

Ted Kennedy was also a friend to inner-city children and teachers. For the better part of the last decade, Ted and I worked together to support struggling Catholic grade schools in inner-city Washington. By helping these schools keep their doors open and helping them retain their committed teachers and faculty, this joint effort made a positive difference in the lives of thousands of inner-city children, who otherwise would have been denied the opportunity for a quality education. It wouldn’t have been possible without Senator Kennedy and his genuine desire to give something back to help inner-city students in the city in which he’d served for so many years. I’m proud to have worked with Senator Kennedy on this project, and I will dearly miss his friendship and his partnership in this cause.

Debbie and I extend our thoughts and prayers to Vicki and the entire Kennedy family at this difficult time

Former President George H.W. Bush:

Barbara and I were deeply saddened to learn Ted Kennedy lost his valiant battle with cancer. While we didn’t see eye-to-eye on many political issues through the years, I always respected his steadfast public service — so much so, in fact, that I invited him to my library in 2003 to receive the Bush Award for Excellence in Public Service. Ted Kennedy was a seminal figure in the United States Senate — a leader who answered the call to duty for some 47 years, and whose death closes a remarkable chapter in that body’s history.
Barbara and I — and all Bushes — send our heartfelt condolences to Victoria, Ted’s kids, and the entire Kennedy family.

My last comment seems to be in the filter.

Aye said: “Speaks volumes about the standards of the voters in Massachusetts, eh?”

It speaks volumes about the whole spectrum of who is elected to represent the citizens all across our Country, North, South, East and West. This is the principle of Elected Representative Governance that, disagree as we may about some issues, we respect this principle that many have fought and died to protect and defend.

Louisiana also gifted us with David Duke, who proudly left the Democratic party from where he could not win an election, to the party where he found acceptance from the voters and was elected US representative, the good ole Republican Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_David_Duke

Barny Frank and John Kerry don’t speak for every Democrat, just as I am sure that David Duke doesn’t speak for all Republicans. (Even though your post on Ted Kennedy’s passing and condemnation of his personal life today shares the same level of contempt as does David Dukes critique about the late Senator from Mass, even though I am pretty sure that your DO NOT SHARE Mr. Dukes other views expressed in this link, nor am I implying such, I know you and most Republicans are not that way, but enough apparently are/were so that Duke could have been elected 🙂

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To have and keep a functioning stable Government and society, and in accordance with our Constitution, sometimes even the ragged and extreme fringes get a seat at the table, and again, it is the people who feel their interests are being represented that vote them into office, and thankfully the ability for the ship to be righted rests in the hands of the people, where it belongs. Hopefully, that is something we can all be in agreement with.

@Cary #11:

They couldn’t even give it a day.

I’ll give it a day.

Condolence to his family and friends.

@Real American Patriot:

1. “improve schools” – our public schools are among the worst in the world, see Washington, DC.

2. “help the poor” – the “War on Poverty” has squandered trillions, destroyed families, and condemned generations to poverty.

3. “protect civil rights” – I guess the babies in the womb don’t vote, so they don’t count.

4. “raising the minimum wage” – a business near my home put a sign out this year about the recent minimum wage increase to explain why they would not be hiring any help this season.

5. “expand the health care system” – see “improve schools”.

Yeah, he “worked tirelessly” alright and did so to the detriment of hundreds of millions of Americans since 1962.

My condolences to his family. May he rot in hell.

@Cary: I have never killed anyone, I have never cheated at school and I have never tried to destroy this country by instilling socialist values. I guess you are OK with his ‘sins’, but I think they made him un-American and unfit to serve.

R.I.P. Senator Ted Kennedy.

I’m obviously no fan of later year Ted Kennedy politics, but I also don’t have any plans to condemn him. That’s between God and Ted Kennedy.

Let’s all trust, in his last opportunities of life, before meeting his Maker, he had God’s great mercy and the grace of a repentant heart, at least regarding the errs of his politics. I pray for THIS Ted, the one from 1971:

Sen. Edward Kennedy, [D-Mass.], in a letter to a constituent, August 3, 1971
“While the deep concern of a woman bearing an unwanted child merits consideration and sympathy, it is my personal feeling that the legalization of abortion on demand is not in accordance with the value which our civilization places on human life. Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain rights which must be recognized — the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grown old.

“I share the confidence of those who feel that America is working to care for its unwanted as well as wanted children, protecting particularly those who cannot protect themselves. I also share the opinions of those who do not accept abortion as a response to our society’s problems — an inadequate welfare system, unsatisfactory job training programs, and insufficient financial support for all its citizens.

“When history looks back to this era it should recognize this generation as one which cared about human beings enough to halt the practice of war, to provide a decent living for every family and to fulfill its responsibility to its children from the very moment of conception.”

You know in looking up this quote, I was reminded of the old Jesse Jackson quote, also from the 1970’s. Reading it again is not only chilling, it’s prophetic.

Reverend Jesse Jackson – he endorsed the Hyde Amendment in an open letter to Congress that opposed federal funds used for “killing infants.” Mr. Jackson wrote the following statements in a 1977 National Right to Life News article

“There are those who argue that the right to privacy is of [a] higher order than the right to life … that was the premise of slavery. You could not protest the existence or treatment of slaves on the plantation because that was private and therefore outside your right to be concerned.

“What happens to the mind of a person, and the moral fabric of a nation, that accepts the aborting of the life of a baby without a pang of conscience? What kind of a person and what kind of a society will we have 20 years hence if life can be taken so casually? It is that question, the question of our attitude, our value system, and our mind-set with regard to the nature and worth of life itself that is the central question confronting mankind. Failure to answer that question affirmatively may leave us with a hell right here on earth.”

As for the Mass Democrats, unless you ever dated one, have one in your family, or have spent considerable time in that area, don’t even try to understand it. It’s “cultural.”

All said, I think it’s important not to sanctify Ted Kennedy in the media. We do society no favors by only remembering “part of the man.” I would hope at least one MSM outlet would focus on how the “Old Ted” became the “New Ted”, engaging in a dialogue long overdue in this country.

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@Robert Kelly:

Neither you nor Aye, nor anyone else know what really happened that day on Martha’s Vineyard. God forbid any one of us get in an accident, suffer from shock, and make bad choices in a state of confusion. The rest is political differences, which we are all entitled to have.

@mooseburger – sadly, davidduke.com is NOT a parody site!

: I can say that I hate when anyone loses a loved one. So, in that respect, my sympathies are with his family, those who loved him and called him friend.

Yes, I am sure he did good things and in that we should give respect there. At the same time though, should we then just forget what happened to Mary Jo Kopechne? In remembering his life, there is both the good and the bad.

Like I said earlier, had it been me, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. (And let me be a bit more exact). If he had not exhausted his resources in trying to save my daughter (beating on the first house he came to, raising every alarm possible, etc…), he would not have made another year in his political career and if I had my way, he would have began his prison sentence.
I am still not sure why the Kopechnes caved like they did.

I can see why you quoted who you did but, I find it interesting that you quoted Sarah Palin. I guess she is good when she fits the need, eh? 😉

Sen Edward Kennedy, a good example of a bad example. nuff said

@Cary: The difference is, you present kennedy as a man to be admired. He should have been ashamed, and held accountable, for all the many ‘mistakes’ he made, but he was given a pass time after time.

@Aye Chihuahua:

I’m not going to refute it because neither of us know. I’ve looked it up – and neither of us know. The FBI files are open online. You have your speculation and opinion based on limited facts, but neither of us know his state, in any way, at the time. Arguing opinions is fruitless.

The rest is political.

@Hawk:

I disagree with her on political and public stances, but if you can show me when I disparaged Mrs. Palin, or any other Republican, on a personal level, I’ll concede your point.

Cary:”Neither you nor Aye, nor anyone else know what really happened that day on Martha’s Vineyard. ”

While we do not know what HAPPENED, we DO KNOW what DID NOT HAPPEN.

He DID NOT stop at any houses to try and get help:
“his route back to the cottage would have taken him past four houses from which he could have telephoned and summoned help; however, he did not do so. The first of those houses, referred to as “Dike House”, was only 150 yards away from the bridge, and was occupied by Sylvia Malm and her family at the time of the incident. Malm later stated that she had left a light on at the residence when she retired for that evening.”

He DID NOT act as if anything happened:
By 7:30 am the next morning he was talking “casually” to the winner of the previous day’s sailing race, with no indication that anything was amiss.

He DID NOT report the accident immediately:
At 8 a.m., Gargan and Markham joined Kennedy at his hotel where they had a “heated conversation.” According to Kennedy’s testimony, the two men asked why he hadn’t reported the accident.

“The three men subsequently crossed back to Chappaquiddick Island on the ferry, where Kennedy made a series of phone calls from a payphone by the crossing to his friends for advice; he again did not report the accident to authorities.”

He DID LIE:
The presiding judge, James A. Boyle, concluded that some aspects of Kennedy’s story of that night were not true.

Dude, if I had done that, I would have had everyone awake and tons of people around. I would have called everyone I could to save that woman.

He made conscious efforts for someone who was supposedly so drunk.

* Walking PAST houses he could have stopped for help to get back to those who MIGHT protect him.

* Changing clothes
* Acting as if nothing happened
* Not reporting the accident immediately or as soon as possible.

Sounds to me like he was looking for a way to try and cover it up.

Its just hard to see the good when you see that this guy was directly responsible for her death.

Cary: Not so much citing YOU as disparaging her but the left as a whole. Based on the group mentality and their view on her – she “is a clown and not to be taken seriously”

I did not mean to imply that you personally had done so. Some one here (who I would not have expected) had said something good about her and I *think* it was you. So …

*man this filters are NOT liking me today*

OY! The filters are NOT liking me today 🙂

@Robert Kelly:

He did express remorse for the way he handle the incident, indeed. It also destroyed his chances of a Presidential run. He even asked his constituents if he should resign entirely. You know the rest.

And I do admire him for his legacy and accomplishments before and after then.

RIP

Not long ago there was an interview with one of the detectives who investigated the “accident”. His report (kept secret for 40 years) concluded that Kennedy had switched to passenger and the girl was driving (this was after a local cop stopped their car on the way to the bridge). When they drove off the bridge, car landed on it’s right side in shallow water. Kennedy scrambled over Kopechne, got out the window. She survived at least an hour, fingernail scratches in the roof of the car where she suffocated. Kennedy walked past several nearby houses with their lights on, never called for help. Spent the next 10 hours trying to talk one of his cousins into taking the rap for him, and finally was convinced to call the cops . A Class A scumbag !

Aye said: “I’ll see your David Duke and raise you a Senator Robert Byrd (D-KKK).

Wanna keep playing this game with me? I’ve still got lots more arrows in my quiver.

Moral equivalence is not a winning hand for you today.

Of course, you could attempt to address the factual analysis of the Kennedy legacy rather than simply attack the messenger.

Your call.

Exit question: Where are the elected officials in the Republican Party (past or present) who got away with manslaughter (at a minimum)?”

Chill dude, no attack meant or implied as I stated in the post. Only a reference to how folks who are elected represent the interests in the majority of the voters who elect them. You brought up the fringe off topic Barney Frank and John Kerry, not me. I brought up in response to your off topic that the fringe who get elected happens in both parties. As for your post and Dukes post sharing the same contempt for Kennedy’s personal life, I’ll stand on the truth of that statement.

As for Robert Byrd, point taken and that doesn’t go against anything I have stated, it only reinforces the point that he apparently represents his constituents interests, hence, he gets re elected time and again.

As for your exit question:
Janklow was found guilty of manslaughter and didn’t get away with it (although it is rumored that he got away with rape earlier in his life)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105154,00.html

The factual analysis of the Kennedy legacy, although correct as you point out, is rather incomplete. If you want to see shining beacons of Conservative values and hypocracy, in an incomplete fashion like you present about Kennedy to us today, check out this link:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Political%20Tiger/72

From my standpoint, the democratic underground link scumbagging the conservatives listed is no better than your scumbagging posting about Kennedy, and shows both sides of the same characteristics, same MO and same hate and bile. Focuses on the bad and the differences, and ignores any real good these people may have done in their lives, Conservative or Liberal, and many are not here to defend themselves since they have faced the ultimate judgement from God at this point. Like the guy in the movie The Green Mile said, ( once the prisoner was dead) “he is square with the house now”

What do you gain from beating a dead horse other than to illustrate how your values and ways are so superior to others? We already know you feel that way Bro.

well i guess he can make his apologies to mary jo now, wait thats right, he killed her. she is in heaven and well we aren’t sure where his daddy bought him space. i feel badly for his family, brain cancer is a terrible way to go, but the suffering maybe made up for his killing an innocent person.

@Hawk:

Thank you Hawk. I did indeed edit out the statements made by Dems and posted only the ones from your side – to illustrate that he was admired by both sides, even by those who disagreed with his views.

Yess… unleash your hatred. Only then will you know the true power of the Dark Side.

This was posted by a Right Winger, hence the title and description. Still, his words speak for themselves, in explaining that night himself:

And why I admire him:

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I think the most egregious thing this man did was when he collaorated with the f**king Russians to try to stop Ronald Regan! In any country in the world this would be treason. A capital offense. Mary Jo was a tragedy and I blame this drunkard turd for her death, but it doesn’t rise to the level of trying to harm your country. Think about what he did for a moment without your political glasses on. Try to imagine any other person getting away with something like that. Oh wait, Jane f**king Fonda did. But cut her some slack, she was just a sex kitten bimbo.

FOR Real American Patriot,

PLEASE change your screen name. It simply does not fit. You are undoubtedly a patriot, but not for THIS country. And neither was Teddy.

@Aye Chihuahua:

They should absolutely pass it now and name it after him. No question.

Ted Kennedy………..I remember someone saying…………something………..Ah….if you can’t say something nice about someone……………I have no comment.

@Aye Chihuahua:

Not inconsistent at all. Part of the mourning process and celebration of his life.

It’s been a year today since my family spread my dad’s ashes. When he died, I donated to the American Lung Association in his honor, after already previously doing so and spreading the word about COPD to friends, especially the smokers. I didn’t wait. But if anyone dared disparaged him for smoking, ON THE DAY HE DIED, it would have been highly offensive.

Sorry you don’t seem to get the difference between honoring someone and disparaging them. Or are you the one actually spinning?

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