The Iran deal misleads (Reader Post)

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The deal is a bluff.

Egos trying to establish legacy; just like Clinton/Albright/Carter with their Sunshine Policy*** that lead to N.Korea going nuclear. Which was a glaring mistake of foreign policy (and a reason why I went political). Instead of the light water reactor that N.Korea got, tax payers bequeathed “Iran will also receive access to USD 4.2 billion in foreign exchange as part of the nuclear deal.”

These are our modern Chamberlains.

There is no excuse to think our sworn enemies are going to abide by any promise.

I cry for the world today. Our political apparat are so removed.

This is an interim freaking agreement. Do I need to define interim?

in or for the intervening period; provisional or temporary

NYT:

…initial six-month agreement is MORE LIKELY to be followed by a series of partial agreements that CONSTRAIN Iran’s nuclear activities but do not definitively solve the nuclear issues.

6 month = interim. Then please define MORE LIKELY. And WTF does CONSTRAIN mean.

CNN: How about this headline (and boy do I love quoting progressive-utopian idiots), “Obama: Iran nuclear deal LIMITS ABILITY TO CREATE nuclear weapons.”

MSM:

President Barack Obama said late Saturday, the deal will “cut off Iran’s most likely paths to a bomb.”

Raise your hand if you know what a qualifier is: A word or phrase that precedes an adjective or adverb, increasing or decreasing the quality signified by the word it modifies.

‘More likely to constrain’; ‘limits ability’; ‘cut off most likely path’ – those statements masquerade as promise but qualify as fable.

DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR. LIES. DECEIT. BULLSHIT.

Araqchi [Iranian nuke negotiation] emphasized that Tehran could not accept any deal that did not recognize Iran’s enrichment right.

Clandestine reactors/centrifuge enrichment centers LIE outside the arrangement of this agreement.

Like all other Obama promises, it comes with an expatriation date. We can keep our heath care and Iran won’t go nuclear.

The last time we had this great a deal was back in 1994. President Clinton, with the help of former President Jimmy Carter was able to get the North Koreans to sign an agreement whereby they would be given 500,000 metric tons of fuel per year, plus $4 billion to build 2 nuclear reactors for electricity.

Carter won the Nobel Peace prize for this. [tar and feathers – high IQ but still a nitwit who lacks common sense]

Newspapers and liberals were over joyed. Diplomacy and negotiation had succeeded in preventing war.

Fast forward to 2002. It is hard to hide a nuclear explosion. Two months into office President Bush ends the agreement with North Korea, having caught them building nukes. The North Koreans admit they have been working on nukes since 1994 or before.

So the 500,000 tons of fuel per year is ended; but the $4 billion is gone to build 2 nuclear reactors, which are now producing plutonium. So what did we get in return? A piece of wet toilet paper with the Dear Leader’s signature on it.

Who could have guessed that the Commies would lie to us???

What have we gotten from Iran? Another piece of wet toilet paper.

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Iran will also receive access to USD 4.2 billion

Not only does it go nuclear, the US is paying them to do so.

mossomo
about IRAK, i don”t think they should send troops in tha horn”s nest ever,
they should by air send a powerfull message in their location,
which they identified, and the message is a spray for insects,
to pulverize them alL, once and for all,

Iranian cleric: ‘Having a nuclear bomb is necessary to put down Israel’

A top Iranian lawmaker and cleric said [1/6/14] that the country’s uranium enrichment program could allow it to build a nuclear weapon “in two weeks” in order to “put down Israel,” according to multiple reports in the Farsi language press.

Iranian lawmaker and cleric Muhammad Nabavian said on Friday that Iran would be able to build a nuclear bomb in “two weeks” if it gets “access to 270 kilograms of 20 percent [enriched uranium], 10 tons of 5 percent, and 20 thousand centrifuges,” according to reports on Iran’s Radio Farda and in Fararu.

The official mouth piece of the White House dropped this narrative yesterday. Expect tangent narratives in the next days and week, as there’s a meeting on Iran this Thursday.

NYT: U.S. and Iran Face Common Enemies in Mideast Strife

While the two governments quietly continue to pursue their often conflicting interests [conflicting interests: Great Satan and Little Satan must be destroyed vs Human Rights] , they are being drawn together by their mutual opposition to an international movement of young Sunni fighters, who with their pickup trucks and Kalashnikovs are raising the black flag of Al Qaeda along sectarian fault lines in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen.

@Redteam:

Not only does it go nuclear, the US is paying them to do so.

Not the first time. Sunshine Policy, Light Water Reactors. That’s why this post I will do my best to cite and link. 1year or five plus. Be it a labor of love, I’m going to document the FAIL.

mossomo
TWO WEEKS THEY SAY?
THAT HAS CROSS THE LINE WHICH NETHANYAU EXPLAIN TAKING A BOTTLE,
THOSE SOB ARE EATEN INSIDE BY THE HATE BEAST, AND NOW ARE DETERMINE TO SHOW THE POWER WHICH THE OTHER 5 COUNTRY BOOST THEIR EGO WITH, BY GETTING TOGETHER TO DISCUSS WITH IRAN, OH BOY THEY LAUGHT
AND THEY HAD FUN, KISS KISS BEFORE THEY SEPARATE,
WHAT A SHOW FOR THE WORLD TO SEE,
BUT THEY FORGOT ONE THING SHOWING THEIR STUPIDITY, BY NOT ASKING FOR A SAME MEETING WITH ISRAEL AFTERWARD, TO SHOW ISRAEL IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN IRAN, AND IRAN IS MORE DANGEROUS TO HIS PEOPLE,
WHY? WOULD THE FIVES IDIOTS ASK?
BECAUSE ISRAEL WE CAN TRUST, AND ISRAEL IS AN ALLY
OF US AND WE CAN TAKE THEIR WORD AS TRUTH,
Y’ALL IDIOTS MISS YOUR CHANCE TO CREATE A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE TWO NATIONS,
NOT BY PUTING THEM TOGETHER BUT BY LEARNING OF THE DETERMINATION OF ISRAEL
TO REDUCE IRAN IN POWDER, USING THE IRAN OWN POWDER, ANYTIME THEY DECIDE THAT THE TIME HAS COME,,
IRAN SHOULD BE SCARE OF TRYING TO SCARE ISRAEL, IT CAN COME BACK TO THEIR FACE LIKE A BOOMERANG,

yes for sure,
the IRAN deal mislead the readers,

Previously post #50: “Iran could play a helpful role in finding a solution to the conflict in Syria”
– Jaws Kerry

USAToday: U.N. disinvites Iran to Syrian peace talks

“The main Western-backed opposition group to Assad said Iran must commit publicly to withdraw its “troops and militias” from Syria and abide by a 2012 transitional road map pushed by the United States.”

Hey Jaws – the operative word was COULD.

Today is the 21 of January. One day since the six month Iranian Accord went into effect.

Haaretz: Ex-UN watchdog: Iran 2-3 weeks from nuclear bomb

Olli Heinonen, former IAEA deputy director general, responds to Iranian claim it could resume uranium enrichment in a day’s time.

Houston Chronicle: Nuclear progress won’t end tensions for Iran, West

FARS: Iran Sends Flotilla of Warships to Atlantic Ocean

Arutz Sheva: Dep. Defense Min. Hints at Israeli Strike on Iran

n 1981, writes Danon, “when Prime Minister Menachem Begin warned the Reagan administration that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was developing military nuclear capabilities, the Americans failed to act. Faced with the prospect of a nuclear-armed enemy Israel was compelled to take matters into its own hands.”

In 2007, Danon continues, Syria was “caught red-handed” attempting to develop a nuclear weapon. Then-President George W. Bush wrote in his memoir that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called him to say: “I’m asking you to bomb the compound,” but Bush declined.

MOSSOMO
I DON’T LIKE THE TWO IRAN NUCLEOR WARSHIP IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN,
IT MIGHT BE A CARD FOR IRAN TO PLAY AGAINST ISRAEL READYNESS TO CARRY HIS PLAN,
MEANING YOU DO IT AND WE HIT THE USA OR EVEN CANADA, WHICH IS WITH ISRAEL,
HE COULD SEND HIS NUCLEOR SUBMARINE TO CANADA WATERS,

AND WHY ELSE SEND HIS WARSHIP,????
WAS HE INVITED BY OBAMA????

@ilovebeeswarzone:Bees, I think Iran might have sent the warships to the Atlantic to get them out of range of Israeli aircraft. I think Israel is about to strike Iran, but the range of Israeli jets will not allow them to hit the ships in the Atlantic. I think there is absolutely no chance Iran would strike the US or Canada with those ships.

@ilovebeeswarzone: A little more. Iran did not send there warships out into the Indian Ocean because they can’t get out of range of Israel that direction. In flight refueling would allow them to get there. They (Israel) can’t get to the Atlantic without overflying foreign countries which they would not be safe in doing.

Redteam
so it tell us that it already started,
that is a strategic move,
BYE

@ilovebeeswarzone: Yes, that’s the way I analyze it.

Redteam
scary,

Redteam
did you mean ISRAEL cannot send their missiles where the NUCLEOR SHIP
are in the ATLANTIC,
BUT WE CAN IF THEY ATTACK ISRAEL FIRST,
OR IF OBAMA DON’T WANT TO DO IT, HIS PROFILE TELL US SO,
THEN i don”t know if CANADA POSESS MISSILES, THAT WOULD BE THE WEAPON NEEDED,
THE ONLY ONE, yes?
AND WHAT ABOUT THE IRAN SUBMARINE,? WE WOULD NEED TO SINK IT TOO,
WHAT ABOUT THE NUCLEOR ON IT,DOES IT SAY NUCLEOR ARMED OR NUCLEOR DRIVEN,?

@ilovebeeswarzone: I do not believe the Iran warships are going to be used to attack anyone. They only wanted to get them out of range of Israel if Israel attacks the nuclear installations in Iran. Israel can not overfly foreign countries to reach those ships. If Israel attacks Iran, the US will not attack either of them and will not attack those Iran warships or submarines. The Iran submarines are all diesel and can’t stay underwater very long. They won’t be a problem.

Redteam
and if IRAN attack first, we shoud send his warship and his submarine to hell,

@ilovebeeswarzone:

“IRAN NUCLEAR WARSHIP”

Bees, they don’t exist. However Iran does have conventional warships. A navy we sunk once.

mossomo
HI,
it seems the did not get it; we will have to do it again,
BYE

THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAIS WE CANNOT CREATE A PROBLEM FOR THE IRAN SHIPS TOO CLOSE TO US FOR CONFORT, THIS IS OUR SEA, AND OUR LAND RENDERED VULNERABLE WITH THE PROXIMITY OF IRAN SHIPS,
WE DON’T WANT THE WORLD AND ISRAEL TO THINK THAT WE COVER THEIR ENEMY

it’s not right to be conforteble sitting in between two COUNTRIES,
we know one is peacefull and the other has a death wish on the peacefull one,
and do nothing about it, it anormal,
i read the actions of HARRY TRUMAN AND HE SAID; i feel like the sun and moon and the planets fell on me, and he decide to make action, not stay there like a dead human,
especialy a PRESIDENT OF THIS SUPER UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
HARRY TRUMAN THANK YOU,

FarsNews: Iran Opens Medical Center for Nuclear Incidents

“The first nuclear emergency center will launch operation in Isfahan in the near future,” Acting Deputy Head of the Medical Emergency and Incidents Center of Isfahan Hamid Esmayeeli told reporters then.

“Construction of the medical center is in its final stages,” he added.

Reminding that the nuclear industry is one of the key industries in the province, the official stated, “Isfahan should be fully prepared to respond to (nuclear) events.”

Natanz uranium enrichment facility (UCF) is among Iran’s key nuclear centers located in Isfahan province.

MOSSOMO
HI,
IS THAT TO BE USED AS HEALTH CARE ?
AS HEALING WITH NUCLEAR APPARATUS?
AS CANCER TREATMENTS?
BYE

I read it as, in case of a nuclear accident – like in the event someone bombs the Natanz uranium enrichment facility. Or in case there is a leak, contamination, or other accident at said facility

mossomo
yes it sound better
thank you for the info,

Still dithering and looking exceptionally weak on the world stage.

Yahoo News: Iran says Obama lacks will to combat terrorism in Iraq

You don’t say Captain. Lacks the will to combat terrorists, and lacks the will to use military force to thwart Iran’s nuclear agenda. This has all been telegraphed.

My post is hostage to a holding pattern, months of the same. I’ll be surprised if there is any movement by end of November.

Reuters: Iran and six world powers – the United States, France, Germany, China, Russia and Britain – aim to end a decade-long nuclear standoff by a Nov. 24 target date, although Tehran and Moscow have both indicated that more time may be required.

AP: Iran & Russia to hold joint naval exercise.

It was the first visit in decades by a Russian fleet to an Iranian port in the Caspian Sea. In recent years Iran’s navy has increased its bilateral relations with various countries, including China and Pakistan.

Axis?

“Iran could play a helpful role in finding a solution to the conflict in Syria even on the sidelines of peace talks in Geneva later this month,” U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Sunday (post 50).

Amid political instability, US closes its embassy in Yemen.

Yemen’s Houthis ‘similar’ to Lebanon’s Hezbollah: Iran official

Yahoo (2/23/15): Russian offers Iran latest anti-aircraft missiles: TASS (Context: Antey-2500 missiles…after a deal to supply less powerful S-300 missiles was dropped under Western pressure.)