20 Aug

Daisy Khan Blames Republicans For Ground Zero Mosque Problems

                                       

Daisy Khan, wife of Imam Rauf, says there is too much at stake to back down on the Ground Zero Mosque now.

“There is too much at stake, constitutional rights, the development of the Muslims here, how the world is watching the United States. We tell people America upholds religious freedom. We should not compromise those values.”

She maintains that the resistance has strengthened the resolve of the mosque supporters, she states that the supporters worry that if they cave on this issue that they may be next. (Whatever the Hell that means) She emphasizes that Americans must realize that not all Muslims are extremists and they must learn to distinguish between extremists and moderate Muslims and not be ruled by Islamaphobia.

Khan said the organizers “will have a dialogue” with the families of 9/11 victims, but added about the mosque site: “It is private property. To walk away without taking everything into consideration would be irresponsible.”

Instead of creating enemies, she said, she hopes this controversy will help people better understand Islam.
“We are debating about having a healing dialogue, building bridges, and this whole thing has turned into the opposite of what we have envisioned,” she said.

Khan said she is completely taken aback by the opposition.

Many people are asking why they are pursuing the project if they only want to build a dialogue with America?

She maintains that partisan strife is causing the conflict and that the Republicans are really going after them. She considers the construction of the Ground Zero Mosque to be a “defining moment” for Islam: hold on babe, isn’t it supposed to build a dialogue with Americans and Muslims? I hear warning bells in the background.

They won’t build it! Hardhats vow not to work on controversial mosque near Ground Zero

There is a movement among the union construction workers to refuse to work on the site.

“It’s a very touchy thing because they want to do this on sacred ground,” said Dave Kaiser, 38, a blaster who is working to rebuild the World Trade Center site.

“I wouldn’t work there, especially after I found out about what the imam said about U.S. policy being responsible for 9/11,” Kaiser said.

The grass-roots movement is gaining momentum on the Internet. One construction worker created the “Hard Hat Pledge” on his blog and asked others to vow not to work on the project if it stays on Park Place.

“Thousands of people are signing up from all over the country,” said creator Andy Sullivan, a construction worker from Brooklyn. “People who sell glass, steel, lumber, insurance. They are all refusing to do work if they build there.”

This is a very interesting development, because of Obama’s dependency on the union rank and file for support; however, anyone who has worked high construction, wll tell you union solidarity among those who risk their life is totally different than among the Service Employees and Teacher’s Unions. It looks like Obama, in his desire to preen in front of the camera, has stepped in deep manure this time

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44 Responses to Daisy Khan Blames Republicans For Ground Zero Mosque Problems

  1. Granny says: 1

    Daisy Khan needs to learn a little more English. Specifically, she needs to learn something my Mother drilled into me from the time I could talk – the difference between CAN and MAY. Mother, can I go to the store? Yes, you CAN go to the store, but you MAY not go to the store.

    Just because they CAN build a mosque on what is in truth part of Ground Zero and shove it in the face of all those who lost someone there and all of us who sat and watched in abject horror, does not mean that doing so is wise.

    You cannot force respect – you have to earn it. Building that mosque despite all of the objections from what is by far the majority of the American people will do absolutely nothing to combat “islamophobia”.

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  2. Patvann says: 2

    She has her lines down perfectly. Like a good actress should.

    “Emote with me baby!”

    *spits*

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  3. TexasFred says: 3

    Let em build it, then turn some rednecks loose on the damned place with grenade launchers and the like…

    And while we’re at it, let em hit every other damned mosque in this USA…

    I detest Islam and every goat loving turd that calls it a religion, and not being the most politically correct blogger from Texas, screw em, kill em ALL and let allah sort em out!

    :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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  4. Patvann says: 4

    Well Fred…Thanks for sharing with us today.

    -You said the next line of the script, just like they knew you would.

    Think about who REALLY just now pissed you off…
    1.2 billion, mostly illiterate peasants, most of whom can’t even read the Koran, or one dumb bitch who played her part in a Leftist-media show ?

    Her “part” was to piss you off.

    Don’t give her that power over you.

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  5. Mr. Irons says: 5

    If the various Construction Union chapters within New York State and the surrounding areas do ban together to picket the construction or denial of equipment to the group then the only course of action the Mosque group will have is to import foreign labor forces and equipment to start their construction. That alone will lead to another burdensome layer of legalities and civil mayhem in the courts considering OSHA standards for equipment and various Construction Union contracts with the City of New York related to licensed HVAC operators.

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  6. TexasFred says: 6

    Patvann — No one has that power over me, and if you want to defend all those “1.2 billion, mostly illiterate peasants, most of whom can’t even read the Koran”, piss on YOU too…

    Islam is PURE evil and ALL that practice it are PURE evil… If that gives you pause, too bad huh??

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  7. Granny says: 7

    TexasFred, how about you take yourself off and spout that garbage elsewhere. The actions you are calling for make you every bit as evil as islam and a instigator to boot. Matter of fact, your rantings verge on insanity. Don’t tar us and this website with that brush.

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  8. PatriotUSA says: 8

    Daisy Khan is just doing what most muslims and others followers of islam do; use taqiyya: lies and deception to help spread the ideology of islam. She has this down pat and her track record is no better than that of the closet terrorist that she is married to, rauf faisal. One must understand
    how islam works and how sharia law works. The two are part and parcel of each other. The qur’an is pretty clear about muslims building mosques where there have battles and or wars with islam.
    That is what Ground Zero is; a battle ground where we were attacked by muslims who were following islam, the qur’an and sharia law. Not only is a mosque to built but it is to be higher and bigger than any other the other ‘religious’ buildings in the area. Do islam and or most muslim countries allow temples, churches, synagoges to built inside their countries? Not very often at all. It is the other way around and many other religions have their houses of worship destroyed by muslims and a mosque gets built on top of that site. I have read the qur’an(three different versions) and do not consider myself an expert by any means or definition but I am a student of islam and this mosque, most mosques are not a good thing. Remember, this is an ideology, a cradle to grave life style that governs EVERY facet of one’s life. It does not allow for much freedom of thought or individuality. This mosque is already being hailed as a victory for islam and sharia law around the globe in most islamic countries. It is an insult to those who died, to those who lost loved ones, friends etc on 9/11. The goal of islam is to establish a GLOBAL ISLAMIC CALIPHATE, period. This proposed mosque is what many of us counter jihadists and others call ‘Stealth Jihad, creeping sharia.’ etc. islam and many muslims will see this a a weakness to be exploited if we allow this to get built.

    I suggest two books: “Stealth Jihad” by Robert Spencer who does the site Jihad Watch and “America Alone” By Mark Steyn. islam must be stopped inside this country. It already has a toe hold in our legal, education, business, and justice systems.

    Not all musilms are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims is pretty darn true. Over 95% os ALL terrorist attacks are perpetrated by muslims driven by islam. See the site “Religion Of Peace” which tracks attacks by islam and muslims. This includes attacks on other religion’s houses of worship etc. Educate yourselves about islam and you will find it is a violent, radical, perverted ideology that has still uses persecution, subjugation, humiliation, slavery, female genital mutilation and class warfare. Non-muslims, us infidels are lied to and duped all the time by islam. If you read the qur’an DO NOT read the white washed versions handed out by Cair, the MSA, MB, ISNA.

    There is no peace within islam, and with islam there can never be peace.

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  9. TexasFred says: 9

    Granny — When a site allows it’s comment makers to defend Islam, and allows someone like YOU to tell those that stand against those EVIL bastards that ARE Islam to leave, I have to wonder if that site is even worth coming to or supporting any longer…

    I have seen far too much PC BS here lately from those that want to defend the goat loving pedophiles of Islam…

    I think it may very well be time for me to take myself on down the road, I won’t hang out with, or link TO any group or blog that stands idly by and allows Islam to piss down their backs…

    Flopping Aces — You guys used to have an ALL American, America 1st site a patriot could be proud of… What the hell happened here??

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  10. Granny says: 10

    Fred, read your comment about grenade launchers again with fresh eyes. That sort of thing does absolutely nothing to convince anyone of the correctness of our position but it sure does give life to the “right wing christian terrorists” meme. You simply cannot go around making those kind of statements and that has nothing to do with political correctness. That has to do with completely diminishing the value of this site as a tool in a war of ideas. So yes, if you cannot control the thoughts that you express in a way that will not lead to this site and those of us who come here being tarred with that brush (not to mention have the FBI watching) then please do take yourself somewhere else.

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  11. DrJohn says: 11

    Instead of creating enemies, she said, she hopes this controversy will help people better understand Islam.

    If you shove this down the throats of Americans, it ain’t gonna help.

    “We are debating about having a healing dialogue, building bridges, and this whole thing has turned into the opposite of what we have envisioned,” she said.

    D’oh!

    That’s why it’s time to build elsewhere, which would a much better method of building bridges.

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  12. DrJohn says: 12

    She maintains that partisan strife is causing the conflict and that the Republicans are really going after them.

    If things weren’t bad enough, we find out she’s a Democrat too.

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  13. @TexasFred:

    Fred, in comment 3 you advocated violence on US soil.

    Plain and simple, you were out of line. Way, way out of line.

    By saying things like that, you give the other side what they so desperately need. You allow them to take your words and use them against you, individually, as well as this site and its’ other participants.

    I understand that you feel strongly about this issue.

    Don’t agree with you at all, but understand.

    What you need to understand is that by writing the things that you did in #3 you’re advocating murder and mayhem in the Homeland and that’s a really, really bad thing. Totally unacceptable actually.

    You’re advocating grenade attacks on all mosques on US soil.

    If that’s what being a “Patriot site” means to you then it’s a really safe bet that FA doesn’t want anything to do with it.

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  14. tadcf says: 14

    When the Community Center goes forward, I doubt if they will have any difficulty finding workers to build it.

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  15. KingShamus says: 15

    I like Daisy Khan. I like a gal with an incredibly overgrown sense of chutzpuh and entitelment.

    We have a gal-who’s husband wants to get sharia law imposed in America-citing the US Constitution as a defense of her Wahhabist mosque.

    Amazing.

    I dunno about ya’all, but I’m pretty sure the founding documents of our nation aren’t supposed to be used as a suicide pact.

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  16. tallgrass says: 16

    TexasFred;

    Being orginally from Texas myself, born and raised there, I would like to say that I see your statements through a different set of eyes than what the others here on FAs see. One of these days, when the polite, reserved, well kept attitudes of the Conservatives (as clearly seen by the Tea Party gatherings) fail, then people like YOU and ME will be the ones that come forward to save the Republic. I could just as easily say those same words that you have said, but then again the same rhetoric would come at me and I would be shunned and seperated from the very people who in the end would most benefit. We who would willing go forth and make the ultimate sacrifice for our country are in the middle of a lion eat lamb battle. Yes, the flock of lambs does indeed outnumber the lions and we are slowly but surely gathering for the stampede to the polls. But keep in mind that the lion always takes his due. So just understand that the moderate who is unwilling to recognize your willingness to challenge the lion is most probably the lamb who seeks the middle of the flock.

    Stand tall those of strong faith, for they are the warriors that will save the peace keepers.

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  17. Average Infidel says: 17

    Even though they have the legal right to impose this cult upon the good citizens of these
    United States does not mean they have the right to flaunt this death cult around us. These camel jockies are about as clueless as the dhimmicrats under the leadership of the “won”.
    Poor ole daisly khan, she would rather gather up the hornet’s nest around her neck than to “back down”. Maybe she and her so-called “moderate friends had ought to rethink the insult and insensitive remarks she and her monster loving hubby said right after the 911 incident, apoligize for that first. That would be a good start. Personally I don’t give a rats ass what the muslim world thinks of us. I’d rather have them fear us than to respect us anyway. Who do you think they always comes to for protection when needed, it sure as hell is not the “house of saud.” I’d rather have all the mosques torn or blown down in this country, this way it would relieve the hatred that fuels the debate with the so called “moderates”. If you are for this cult and it’s encroachment into our way of life, I consider you an enemy of me, my people, tribe and this Nation.
    I will NOT apoligize for having killed many of their fanatic friends of allah. Hell these people are largely COWARDS that hide among the innocent children and old folks when taking on the American’s and NATO allies. I saw first hand what they do to their own and I am wiling to go straight to hell in the commission of killing every last one of them given the chance. These people looking to the elitist for advice and concent are firmly led along with the belief that We American MEN are as stupid as they are, it just isn’t so. You can wrap a bomb around a jihadist but you can not claim he/she is going to paradice for murder. What ignorant fools maybe the sleeping American fools will wake the hell up to the dangers this cult represents to our way of life once the bombing start going off around them and their famlies.

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  18. tallgrass says: 18

    Average Infidel;

    Yes, again we have another warrior step forward to be counted. The baa-baa-baa of the moderate in no way are lyrical with the melody of the Star Spangled Banner, God Save the Queen, or O’Canada. To give one inch to the idiocy that is Islam is to give victory in their eyes. A victory that will be celebrated with the same gusto and mockery as that after 911. What did we see on the streets of Cairo, Palestine, Tehran after 911? We saw the throngs of joyful celebration, burning of the US Flag and the millions of illiterate jihadist dancing in the streets at the euphoria of calamity. Given time the Islamic invasion and infiltration into our culture is the same as intentional transmission of HIV to our culture and is in fact demograhic suicide. Anyone with half a brain should realize that this country is now primed for just such invasion. Our schools are failures, our social services system supports the ignorant, our borders are open to invasion in the South, we have no leadership that protects and leads, we are primed. Just as the Black Muslim breed the radical actions of the 1960’s so shall the invasion of Islam do the same. If you want to be part of the collateral damage from an explosive device, have homebrewed rockets impact around your city then invite these extremist in. These are what the Islamic movement disguises as a “bridge to cultural communications”. The Islamic cult is our enemy, they chose it, We THE People did not.

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  19. Romeo13 says: 19

    Tall, Avg Inf, TexasFred…

    May I make a suggestion. I also see chaos coming down the road, but one step in the chain I see coming is when the Average American finally really looses his temper, but the Obama DHS tries to suppress that anger.

    Cool your rhetoric online… its too easy to track, and as it IS public domain information so the Government needs no Warrants to track it… and then keep you poweder dry…

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  20. Skookum says: 20

    In poker, (I am not a card player) it is counter productive to show your hand too early.

    Those enemies who hope to remake this country, there are several, know they will have a daunting task in subduing the American Patriot in the final stages of conquest.

    In the greater picture, expressing a quiet resolve will accomplish more in reassuring other patriots and letting the enemies of our way of life know that they face a formidable enemy that is armed to the teeth and that most have received a measure of excellent training.

    Tip your hand too early and you risk investigation and put FA in the sight picture of those who can harm the site itself.

    We have many Muslims who have served our country with distinction during these wars and there are many Muslims who go about heir daily lives just trying to be good citizens, alienating these patriotic Americans is counter productive.

    I personally think the Rauf’s are trying to use our Constitution and laws against us, but I don’t think all our Muslims can be painted with the same brush.

    Because of being in the horse industry, I know many Mexicans. They come in all models. In the service of our country they were among the best: in our crime, they are among the worst. Can I make generalizations about all Mexicans? Not realistically.

    I could say they are drug runners and gang members and they should all be deported, but what about the patriots I knew in the service and my neighbor who has a successful nursery and landscaping business and loves to hire me to work on his horses now and then. He raises his family, enjoys his horses and dogs and is a good neighbor.

    I have worked for a few Muslims during my career, they paid me and we went our separate ways; beyond that, I have had very little contact with them. On the other hand I have had people tell me that you can’t trust a Mexican and that they carry knives. Honestly, I have at least two knives on my body every day of my life.

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  21. AdrianS says: 21

    The spreading disgust across America against Muslim proponents of the Ground Zero Mosque is adding to the already existing Islamophobia that has not subsided, despite years and propaganda, due to the continued terrorism by those enemies of America that would like to see America drop to her knees.

    But it won’t happen because this country and its people are advanced, productive, patriotic and determined — that the strength of our patriotism greatly surpasses that of the less than 1% of Muslims in this country.

    Yes, we are determined to fight openly and psychologically against Islam, radical Muslims, Sharia bull-shit, and anything else that is Koranic.

    Many Christians have, perhaps correctly, the idea that the Koran and Islam are evil, menacing, unforgiving, intolerant, and degrading to its people and, in particular, women and children.

    Nothing could be more damaging to the Muslims who promote the GZM than to be asking for tolerance when they, in fact, are being themselves exceedingly intolerance and immoral.

    American’s by more than 70% are against the Ground Zero Mosque. So, it will not happen.

    While the people of France, Spain, Netherlands, Sweden and other countries turn down Koranic ideas such as the burka, full-face scarves for women, and minarets, to name a few, the rest of the world is just coming round to saying NO to anything Koranic and degrading to women.

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  22. Spike says: 22

    To Numbers 3,17 and 18 all I can say is… DITTO 8)

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  23. Spike says: 23

    Regarding Daisy and her hubby perhaps they would consider doing the World a favor by wrapping their
    lips around a Tailpipe and breathing deeply…very deeply!

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  24. Romeo13 says: 24

    @AdrianS 21

    The spreading disgust across America against Muslim proponents of the Ground Zero Mosque is adding to the already existing Islamophobia

    A phobia is an irrational fear. What do you call someone who has a very studied and RATIONAL Fear, and disgust, for Islam?

    I don’t hate Moslems… they have been culturaly and religiously indoctrinated into this Cult…. for many its not their fault..

    However, any “Phiilosophy”, even a religious one, which is exactly the opposite of what we consider the pillars of Western thought… Freedom, honor, Self determination, and the equality of Man… is not welcomed by me…

    And just a curious question about the Mosque… just where in the HELL are people supposed to park to go to it?

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  25. TEXAS FRED: hi, I can say from your previous comments, how patriotic you are,and you see many expressing the same rejections on the building, so you are not alone here and you are
    ONE OF the groups who visit and we like to keep you and all other patriots around us,
    and even if the speech is passionate just like ONLY THE TEXANS can deliver,you are telling the same feelings of others, but dont get angry at us, WE are all on the same side of the TRUTH as you are. bye

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  26. TALLGRASS: hi, I did’nt know that you where from TEXAS also, nice to hear from you ,
    THE PATRIOTS of AMERICA are very much appreciate and respected in this place, even if they set fire here,sometimes, we extinguish it [that was a difficult word], best to you. bye

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  27. Patvann says: 27

    @ Skooks/20

    *Applauds*

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  28. wordsmith says: 28

    @tallgrass #18:

    What did we see on the streets of Cairo, Palestine, Tehran after 911? We saw the throngs of joyful celebration, burning of the US Flag and the millions of illiterate jihadist dancing in the streets at the euphoria of calamity.

    How much of that is an accurate representation of the whole breadth of the Islamic world and how much of it is based on distortion?

    And how much of the anti-Americanism abroad in Muslim countries can be chalked up to theology, and how much to something other than religion as the prime driver of anti-Americanism?

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  29. wordsmith says: 29

    @Spike #22:

    To Numbers 3,17 and 18 all I can say is… DITTO 8)

    All I can add to that is, some commenters appear to want to become what they profess to hate and to be fighting against.

    And they become willing pawns to bin Laden and al Qaeda’s failed mission to rally the Muslim world to answer the clarion call of jihadism.

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  30. Indigo Red says: 30

    Daisy Khan is probably more right than she is given credit. Had it not been for the outrage expressed by Americans who also happen to be Republicans, most probably nothing would have been said at all.

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  31. Idigo Red: hi, MR GINGRICH WENT on public media; BUT MIKE’S AMERICA started his blog first
    bye

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  32. Daisy Kahn, is wrong to blame THE REPUBLICANS alone:
    SHE should have blame the majority of AMERICA who where showing them how COMPASSION
    is in AMERICA by asking them to do it but somewhere else, because of first the tragedy of 9/11 done by terrorists of their same FAITH, that killed about 300000 peoples, hurting around 60000
    peoples, some died later; AND breaking hearts and familys for generations to come;
    TOLERANCE for AMERICA who has proven their TOLERANCE by allowing you AND many more THE PRIVILEDGE,
    to live with them in this beautifull AMERICA.

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  33. MataHarley says: 33

    @ilovebeeswarzone: it started with this year’s hot and heavy coverage with Pamela Geller… months after this was all going down. Actually, Cordoba Initiative have been shopping for the center they want to build since 1999. This building was purchased by Soho in 2008. I believe a few news blurbs in early/mid 2009, with no fire or outrage. They were putting paperwork thru up until last September. The media either doesn’t cover NYC district planning meetings, or doesn’t care.

    Five months later, Jihad Watch and Pamela Geller pick up on it. Geller gets some talking heads circuits, then the B list bloggers (like us… not a slight, just a fact) pick up on it third hand over three weeks later. It doesn’t get traction until the personal innuendos and unsubstantiated accusations against Rauf… who’s been sent on two similar outreach missions by Bush… get launched – again by Spencer and Geller.

    I first saw Spencer’s Jihad Watch report on May 7th. Three days later, a a guy shows up at a Jacksonville, FL mosque during evening prayers with a can of gasolene and a pipe bomb. That’s only the start of stepped up Muslim hate crimes in FL since Cordoba House was thrust into the spotlight.

    So if you wish to bring “credit” for stirring up anti-Islam emotions, as Geller has been doing with every mosque miles to states away from Ground Zero, you should “credit” the correct people.

    Here’s a few realities from a fair (most often) blogger from Real Clear Politics today. This same RCP blogger was also defending tea party members against the racist charge after public polls were released. She does some serious gnawing at the talking points with what’s been going on before Spencer and Geller caught the scent… and prefer to stay blissfully unaware.

    INRE Newt, he jumped on the band wagon late to ride the poll numbers wave. And oh, BTW, has decided he will not be a headline speaker at Geller’s/etal protest rally in front of 51 Park on Sept 11th. Also turning the combo 911 attack/mosque protest rally down for speaking is Peter King. Apparently both are anti-“mosque”, but not willing to step in too deep anymore. Perhaps they recognize bad juju when they see it… albeit late.

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  34. PatriotUSA says: 34

    I know a bit about TexasFred and his comments are indeed hot and many see them as inflamatory and way over the line. Perhaps, but it is the likes of TexasFred, and others like him are part and parcel of the ones who will be the first in line to stand in harm’s way to the threats
    that are now coming full circle against our country and the very foundations on which it has been built. TexasFred NEVER minces words or hides what he believes in behind lies and flowery, meaningless rhetoric. You always know where TexasFred stands and that is more than cab be said about many, many people. I have been commenting here off and on for awhile now and most folks can read about who I am and what I believe. I dsagree with many of the comments here about islam and muslims but will just not get into a yelling match or pissing contest in this forum. It is not the proper place for this, at lesat in my opinion. I stand against islam, sharia law and wish the moderates that are part of islam would come out and fight against the perversion and violence that has hijacked this ideology. You can call it a ‘religion’ if you want but it really is not. Many, many mosques are centers for jihadist activities and jihad comes in many forms. islam is using our own Constitution and laws against us. They are being aided by liberal, far left activist judges and politicians who legislate from the bench and their ‘feelings, not the law of the land.

    I stand with TexasFred but there are other ways to combat islam and sharia law. Violence may be required at some point and I pray we never see that day. Every day as part of my prayers, I pray that muslims will be freed from the trap that they may have been born into, forced into to accepting, or willingly converted to. One only has to cast their eyes upon Europe and England to see what our future is. That is not a future I want any part of and 1979 was the start of long road for me personally in regard to islam. I dislike islam and sharia law to the extreme but it is not a hate issue for me.

    Geert Wilders, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Ibn Warriq, Wafa Sultan, Christopher Logan, Baron Bodissey, myself and many others all share in bringing islam and sharia law into the spotlight. We have been called so many names and accused of so many things that are not true it is actaully quite sad and disgusting. But that is to be expected and will not deter me or most others who fall under the label of Counter Jihadists. I have had several fatwas issued against me and am a CCW individual. I do not take chances nor am I ever without adequate protection. Just my thoughts and I need another cold IPA.

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  35. Randy says: 35

    During my 3 years in Iraq, I met many Moslems. In some cases, I trusted them with my life. If one thinks about their dedication to their religion and how they react to the radical teachings, you can put them into several classifications. There were many times when my life depended on Iraqi Moslems. All of us with my rank had a bounty on our head that was more than the average Iraqi could make in a decade. I am still here to write.

    I am not sure of what the number or percentage of Iraqi Moslems who are not radical. There are many. I believe that if they had planned a Mosque at ground zero, they would change the location after they knew what ground zero means to me and others in the US. They would believe it to be what God would want.

    I do not believe that Moslems are more religious than are Christians. I have watched them being served forbidden beverages while they waited for the plane to lift off the ground. They are good Moslems on Friday as many of us are on Sunday.

    I respect those people I met as men and women. I respect them for who they are. I respect them also because they believe in something beyond themselves. The unfortunate part about them is they all live in a country where they fear for their lives at the hand of radical Moslems. That is true even here. Look at the honor killings that have occurred here in the US.

    I doubt that anyone here could consider killing the people I met in Iraq. Some I met at the prisons, yes. Every time we paint a class of people with the same brush without considering that they are all individuals, we end up painting ourselves into a corner with no place to go. Many times, we also look much more stupid that we really are, too.

    Randy

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  36. Tallgrass says: 36

    Tell you what . . . you get the imam and crazy daisy to change the name to “Interdenominational Theological and Cultural Exchange Center” . . . allow the various faiths to participate . .. create a multi-denominational chapel, a single chapel, not one for each, with the Cross, Cresecent, Wheel of Buddah, and other icons of the various faiths to be equally represented. Bingo, you will have my total support.

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  37. Tallgrass: HI, right, to be fair for every one who lost so much. That on last result

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  38. DrJohn says: 38

    email I received:

    I recently applied for a building permit for a new house.

    It was going to be 100 ft tall and 400 ft wide with 9 turrets at
    various heights and windows all over the place and a loud outside entertainment sound system. It would have parking for 200 cars and I was going to paint it green with pink trim.

    The City Council told me to go to hell.

    So I sent in the application again; but this time I called it a Mosque.

    Work starts on Monday…

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  39. MATA :hi, THANK”S for correcting my answer to INDIGO. bye

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  40. Spike says: 40

    Wordsmith:

    Believe as you wish! My agreement with the posters above, at least for me isn’t about hate, its about Reality. I concur with they’re opinions on how Muslims feel about Americans,
    for the most part they hate and if they could, they would probably wipe America off the face of the earth. Every time one of our military fall they rejoice! .

    Like the other three posters i will assume,I am a Super Patriot! I gave my 3 years to the U.S Army Airborne (67-70) like my Father before me who parachuted into Normandy with the 101st Airborne Div.
    There is no other reason in my opinion to build that mosque except to Gloat and store weapons in for what is inevitably coming. Stay in denial like Chamberlain of WII, But, I believe we will be fighting them here real soon!

    “All I can add to that is, some commenters appear to want to become what they profess to hate and to be fighting against.

    And they become willing pawns to bin Laden and al Qaeda’s failed mission to rally the Muslim world to answer the clarion call of jihadism.”

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  41. PatriotUSA says: 41

    Spike wrote:

    “There is no other reason in my opinion to build that mosque except to Gloat and store weapons in for what is inevitably coming. Stay in denial like Chamberlain of WII, But, I believe we will be fighting them here real soon! ”

    Indeed and agreed. One only has to look back on the last 1400 years of islamic history with
    it’s estimated 270 million dead, countless cultures and societies ran over, ruined and trampled into oblivion through the implementation of islamic sharia law. It has changed very little. LOOK for Steve Emerson’s report coming out at the Investigative Report On Terrorism this week on the
    imam Rauf Faisal who is one of the main cogs behind the GZ mosque. He calls himself a moderate!
    Read this report and then tell me this guy is a ‘moderate muslim.’

    My grandfather fought in WW1, my uncles and dad in WW2 and Korea. I have never been in the military myself but not for lack of trying. Three serious shoulder surgeries in high school kept me out. I tried to join up several times but was always never made it cause of my shoulders. I try to support and help in other ways and have since 1971. My family has ones who served and gave their all in Europe and they are buried over there. If the situation ever came up and I was needed and asked, even at my age and with my banged up body, I would go in a heart beat. Just the way I have always been.

    Yes, it is about reality, Spike, very much so. islam is incompatible with the West. That is our reality.

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  42. Spike says: 42

    PATRIOTUSA:

    Thank you for that support,it is clearly obvious that you are a PATRIOT and I have no doubt ,based
    on the passion I see in your words that you would stand next American Gunfighters if needed.

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  43. PatriotUSA says: 43

    Spike,
    Very locked and loaded, never can have enough. I appreciate your words.of support. Yes, in a instant would I stand next to American Gunfighters. Most of my very close friends have all served in the military, are in law enforcement or are ones of like spirit, honor, duty who love God, family and country. My site is linked to many Counter Jihadist sites for those who might interested.

    FA is a really fine site. All may not agree on everything but there is respect and honor here. So badly lacking in many others sites one can go to. Thanks to all who do FA!!!!

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  44. Spike says: 44

    PATRIOTUSA,

    Speaking of Law Enforcement, I am a retired LAPD Officer Having served in So Cental Los Angeles
    (77th street Division) and Pacific ( formerly Venice Div). Everyday I yearn to see our Country get back to what I believe were the two best Decades in America The Forties and the Fifties (Pre hippies ;) Patriot, I will concur that this is a great site to read, learn and post on and the folks who monitor it all mean well when they critique our passionate comments.

    Praise the Lord and pass the the Ammunition! Catch up to you on the next hot topic

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