John Brennan: “[Guantanamo] has served as a propaganda tool for Al Qaeda.” *UPDATE*

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[UPDATE]
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No More Guantanamo Detainees Sent to Yemen for Now, Gibbs Says
January 05, 2010, 02:52 PM EST

By John McCormick

Jan. 5 (Bloomberg) — President Barack Obama’s top spokesman said the U.S. will suspend transfers of Guantanamo terrorist suspect to Yemen.

Yemen is “not capable of handling” them now, Robert Gibbs told reporters at a briefing. “Right now, any additional transfers to Yemen is not a good idea.”


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Excerpt from Chris Wallace’s interview on Fox News Sunday with John Brennan, assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism

WALLACE: Several Guantanamo detainees who were released, it should be pointed out, by the Bush administration reportedly ended up in important roles in Al Qaeda in Yemen.

One such, Hani Abdo Shaalan, was killed on December 17th by Yemeni forces.

And yet the White House says that it has no plans to halt all transfers of detainees to Yemen, that it’s going to decide those on a case- by-case basis.

First of all, is that true that we have not decided to halt all transfers of detainees to Yemen? And if it’s true, why not? Why wouldn’t we want to, at this point, given the instability there, decide not to send any Yemeni detainees back to the country?

BRENNAN: Well, first of all, we ought to put this in context. During the last administration, 532 detainees were transferred from Guantanamo. During this administration, we have transferred 42. Seven of those have gone back to Yemen. The first one went about six or eight weeks ago and six went in December.

We’ve had close dialogue with the Yemeni government about the expectations that we have as far as what they’re supposed to do when these detainees go back.

Several of those detainees were put into Yemeni custody right away. We’re continuing to talk with them. What we’re trying to do is to do this in a very measured fashion.

Stephen Hayes remarks on the nature of a few of these seven Gitmo graduates:

the Obama administration repatriated six Yemenis who had been held at Gitmo. Among them, Ayman Saeed Abdullah Batarfi, a graduate of al Qaeda’s famous Khalden training camp. Batarfi has been waging jihad since the late 1980s, when he fought the Soviets. Batarfi, an orthopedic surgeon, also stayed at al Qaeda guesthouses, worked for an al Qaeda front group, met with a “Malaysian microbiologist” who was almost certainly the head of al Qaeda’s anthrax program, and spent time with Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora.

And as the Long War Journal link provided on Hani Abdo Shaalan demonstrates, some of the past releases under the Bush Administration have been obvious mistakes. A number of the detainees who remained at Guantanamo are purportedly among the “worst of the worst”. So why entrust a weak government like Yemen with the detention of ruthless, unrepentant jihadi-roaches, when Yemen has a roach-infestation problem they cannot control?

Guantanamo facility must be closed. It has served as a propaganda tool for Al Qaeda. We’re determined to close it.

Why must Guantanamo be closed? The opinion of the matter is, President Obama desires to close it to fulfill a campaign pledge. A lot of things have served as propaganda fodder for al Qaeda. But you defeat that with counter-propaganda. Guantanamo remains the least bad option for holding committed Islamic terror nuts. We’ve poured over $54 million into making Gitmo the safest, most transparent and highly scrutinized holding facility in the world. It is insane to allow anti-war left-wing liberals, anti-American propaganda, and al Qaeda propaganda to write the narrative on Guantanamo.

I know the arguments are more complex than what Brennan was able to put forth on air with the time allotted to him; but saying “it has served as a propaganda tool for Al Qaeda” as a reason to close it drives me crazy! It’s another victory for al Qaeda that did not have to be conceded. We’re giving them a freebee.

We’re not going to, though, do anything that is going to put American security at risk.

So working closely with the Yemeni government, right now we are looking at the other detainees in Guantanamo from Yemen, and we are going to take the right steps, but we’re not going to do anything that put Americans at risk.

WALLACE: But you are going to consider on a case-by-case basis sending more Yemenis back to Yemen?

BRENNAN: Absolutely. We’re going to be looking at this, working closely with the Yemeni government, and ensuring that these security measures are put in place as we address the security situation on the ground.

I recommend reading the Stephen Hayes piece after reading that last block quote.

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And Gitmo being a bad place for terrorists is bad news?

Let me translate what Brennan actually meant.

“Never mind the facts we are going to do it because it is opposite of what Bush did and damn the consequences.”

Should read: “Gitmo provided a propaganda tool for the US media and the Democrat Party (birm) to discredit the efforts of President George W. Bush to keep the US safe from terror, thus making it into a great propaganda tool for Al Qaeda.”

@Wordsmith: That is good news. Too bad they still have such a blind spot about the value of Gitmo.

But we’re still going to give KSM a trial in New York with the world’s media as his audience and still giving terrorists like the underwear bomber rights which put Americans who may be caught in future plots at greater risk.

One step forward, two steps back.

Obama has as served as a propaganda tool for Al Qaeda, bashing America across the globe for 3 years!

Al Quaeda sees that the US has a weak patsy for a president. They don’t need any other propaganda tool.

Closing Gitmo is all about appeasing his base and the Europeans. All lefties. He does not have the good of the country in mind. All appeasment to his base and Bush bashing. Win-win for him. Lose-lose for us.

Brennan is so Kissinger. Bush woulda closed GITMO himself but Brennan intervened and didn’t play ball (see congressional transcripts). GITMO is Brennan’s baby and he’s held on to it through a major transition. He’s a calculating man.

@N. Ando:

Wow! No racist screed, no mocking comments about a murdered police officer, and not even a wise crack about John Kerry’s wife’s cancer! You’re really making progress there, N. ando. Congratulations.

Now can you please be so kind as to offer specifics in support of your claims regarding Guantanamo?

Has anyone thought of this yet: Closing GITMO and giving the lands back to Cuba would praticaly give the Communist Government a new, and mostly up to date security detention center to house local “problems” for the new Heir of Castro (who the hell that might be). The, “tragedies” done by American forces would pale to what Cuban prisoners could face within its walls under the new Management controls. But hey, chalk one up to the MSM for not covering the physical traumas and pyschological nightmares that Gulag prisoners faced daily.

Actually, Mr. Irons, I wrote a post about just how much of Gitmo Obama planned on shuttering just days after his coronation, and when Fidel and Chavez started demanding the return of the base to Cuba.

It’s truly a strategic location for our SE homefront, and had quite a history for refugee rescues. I’ve been watching the admin carefully to see signs of this, but I’m not seeing any indication he would do anything so foolish as of yet. If Obama’s plans are to render unto Fidel what he believes should be Cuba’s, I don’t think we’ll see any indication of that until the detention facilities are closed.

But it would be folly for the US to do so. I’m certainly hoping his military advisors would impress that upon him.

@TFHR

Bush: “I would like to close Gitmo.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5102528.stm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2006/05/08/1632592.htm
http://atlanticreview.org/archives/315-Bush-interview-with-German-TV-about-Merkels-soul,-transatlantic-cooperation-on-Iran,-Guantanamo,-climate-change.html

But…by 2008, at Brennan’s requests, he was no longer pursuing it….leaving it to Obama to finish up….
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/washington/21gitmo.html

Bush’s position on GITMO was wishy-washy to say that least. But one thing remained constant: he wanted to shut it down and return many of the detainees to their homeland. The flip-flopping was always in regard to judicial jurisdictions.

Ah thank you for pointing that article out to me, I’m still a newbie of visiting here and also a reader at GamePolitics and Gamespy (being a gamer and all). I appologize for not snagging that article sooner.

@Naruto_90, AQ had no recruiting problems prior to 911. You think this just started post Gitmo? Ah yes… another who believes the ills of the world began with the Bush inaugural, and will end with Obama’s coronation. sigh…

The “recruiting tool” is the western media, and those that insist American’s chickens were coming home to roost. THe “recruiting tool” is those like Ron Paul, who insist it’s because America is “occupiers”. The “recruiting tool” is Pelosi/Reid/Obama who, for years, promised to run away from the fight on foreign soils, giving the jihad movement momentum, anticipating shooting at our backs. They were sorely inconvenience by Iraqi national success, and a withdrawing American/coalition force via a SOFA between Bush and the Iraqis in Dec 2008.

However the brutal treatment of civilians and fellow Muslims has been the jihadi’s downfall, as the decline in admiration and support for jihad among Muslims (not the media) has steadily fallen. I wrote about this at my old blogsite back in March 2008 and again did another post for FA on Jan 5th, 2009. Wordsmith also chimed in with May 2008 post on the same rejection of jihad.

This is also substantiated by the Simon Frasier study, as pointed out by Fareed Zakaria in Newsweek, June 2008. Once they started separating Iraq as a war zone, what was redefined as a “terrorist assault” showed a decline. But most important to the component was that Muslims were fed up with being the convenient target of jihadis and considered apostates.

The Simon Fraser study notes that the decline in terrorism appears to be caused by many factors, among them successful counterterrorism operations in dozens of countries and infighting among terror groups. But the most significant, in the study’s view, is the “extraordinary drop in support for Islamist terror organizations in the Muslim world over the past five years.” These are largely self-inflicted wounds. The more people are exposed to the jihadists’ tactics and world view, the less they support them. An ABC/BBC poll in Afghanistan in 2007 showed support for the jihadist militants in the country to be 1 percent. In Pakistan’s North-West Frontier province, where Al Qaeda has bases, support for Osama bin Laden plummeted from 70 percent in August 2007 to 4 percent in January 2008. That dramatic drop was probably a reaction to the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, but it points to a general trend in Pakistan over the past five years. With every new terrorist attack, public support for jihad falls. “This pattern is repeated in country after country in the Muslim world,” writes Mack. “Its strategic implications are critically important because historical evidence suggests that terrorist campaigns that lose public support will sooner or later be abandoned or defeated.”

“Recruiting tool” my arse. The only “recruiting tool” Gitmo serves is for liberal/progressive talking points.

@N. Ando surely you can’t be this ill-informed? Following the SCOTUS decisions on Boumediene, Hamdi and Hamden, Gitmo wasn’t serving the purpose it was created for… a detainee facility in which to have military tribunals for enemy combatants, held on foreign soil and away from auto granting of Constitutional rights the moment their piggy wigglies touched US soil. Therein my problem with KSM.

Unfortunately, between ACLU and nanny terrorist protecting lawyers, the tribunals got delayed, delayed, delayed because they filed consecutive lawsuits and appeals to do just that. Gitmo detainees can thank their attorneys for their long detention.

The problem with Bush, under PC pressure to close Gitmo, is the same thing Obama is facing… what to do with these guys. Assuming most will get off using our federal standards for inadmissable evidence, most are likely to just be released and save the problem. The favored dumping ground of Yemen is now on pause… so where do they go?

Why the heck do you think Obama can’t close Gitmo in his promised timeframe? What he criticized as a wannabe CiC he now faces in reality as Oval Office denizen. Talk is cheap. Plans of action not so much. And you think that Bush, as a much maligned lame duck, could accomplish this in his final term year? Physically and politically impossible. He had no choice but to kick it to the next admin, and let them sort of the clusterf*#k the lawyers and SCOTUS created.

Now that Yemen is politically incorrect as a receiving station for the Gitmo grads, he’ll have to find another place to send them. Nothing will stop them from migrating back to Yemen, or anywhere else they want to go to rejoin their comrades in jihad. So that point is moot… not sending them to Yemen is the same as just costing them an extra plane flight after release. Big deal.

Nothing is easy. Obama’s attempting the unwise instead of using a perfectly good facility to house enemy combatants. And if you’ll notice, he’s not granting the same rights to his detainees held in Bagram… where his admin has said he has the right to hold them indefinitely, and they do not enjoy Constitutional rights. ummmmm where have I heard that before?

Bagram is Obama’s Gitmo…. you, evidently, just don’t know it because he’s putting on a dog and pony show “closing” Gitmo for you, and you’re starry eyed, eating your popcorn, enjoying the performance.

@N. Ando:

Find my reply (#7) to your selection of weak links where you posted them previously in the thread associated with Nancy Morgan’s reader post, Obama: America’s Gift To Terrorists.

Obama: America’s Gift To Terrorists [Reader Post]

Somehow you seem to miss the point that Bush kept the facility at Guantanamo open and in doing so, served justice and national security. Go read MataHarley’s comments directed to you at #17. @MataHarley:

Maybe she can get through to you.

tfhr… ya think I’m able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, and smash thru brick walls masquerading as thick headed skulls??? LOL

@MataHarley:

After seeing you snatch that MoonBat’s heart out and take a bite from it while it was still beating….

Well…let’s just say that we’re all impressed…and fearful.

Please don’t hurt me.