2 Jan

Justice To Investigate CIA Tape Destruction

                                       

Late to the game on this one folks due to work but here is the news, if you’ve been hiding under a rock all day:

The Justice Department opened a full criminal investigation Wednesday
into the destruction of CIA interrogation videotapes, putting the
politically charged probe in the hands of a mob-busting public
corruption prosecutor with a reputation as being independent.

Attorney General Michael Mukasey announced that he was appointing
John Durham, a federal prosecutor in Connecticut, to oversee the
investigation of a case that has challenged the Bush administration’s
controversial handling of terrorism suspects.

The CIA acknowledged last month that in 2005 it destroyed videos of
officers using tough interrogation methods while questioning two
al-Qaida suspects. The acknowledgment sparked a congressional inquiry
and a preliminary investigation by Justice into whether the CIA
violated any laws or obstructed congressional inquiries such as the one
led by the Sept. 11 Commission.

“The Department’s National Security Division has recommended, and I
have concluded, that there is a basis for initiating a criminal
investigation of this matter, and I have taken steps to begin that
investigation,” Mukasey said in a statement released Wednesday.

Here we go again, another Plame fiasco that produces no crime, at least related to the investigation, but does spend millions of taxpayers money on a fruitless witchhunt.

So lets take a look at this story.  The CIA interrogated two of the worst of the worst regarding 9/11 using waterboarding, rightly so, and received some great information from their hard work.  So they ensured the important data was recorded in report format and forwarded all of that to Congress and the intelligence committees.  They had the videos of the interrogations but knew it could be used for political and anti-American groups throughout the world to their own benefit AND they did not want the identites of the agents who conducted the interrogations known so they advised the leadership in Congress that these tapes would be destroyed.

Two years later they did just that.

TWO YEARS!

Now this is somehow a crime?

Give me a break.

This is another case of the Democrat led Congress watching their approval numbers disintegrate even further so why not start another fruitless investigation.  Yes, yes, I know it wasn’t Congress who initiated this investigation but you know as well as I that their “outrage” over the incident led to this moment.

But at least we’re gonna see some subpoenas being issued to Democrats on the Senate & House Intelligence Communities.

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Curt served in the Marine Corps for four years and has been a law enforcement officer in Los Angeles for the last 24 years.
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16 Responses to Justice To Investigate CIA Tape Destruction

  1. John Ryan says: 1

    The Democrats are now so powerful that the DOJ are now their minions. The Democrats in Congress now RULE !! lol
    As for the extremely low approval ratings for Congress and the minority party Republicans, Americans in a generic Congressional vote choose Democrats by a healthy 10% advantage. Americans may not LIKE Democrats, but they DISLIKE the Republicans even more and blame them more than the Democrats.
    Real Clear Politics Poll AVERAGES (3 different polling organizations)
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
    Scroll to bottom of page, but ALL of the polls before it also favor Democrats.
    And of course the odds on Democrats holding on to both houses of Congress are pretty good.
    http://www.intrade.com/#
    And Fred is still showing 100-1 odds to win the White House

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  2. Ginger Root says: 2

    Did you see the Kean/Hamilton op-ed in the New York Times today? They wrote that they were deliberately denied access to the tapes in the course of their investigation and that they consider that to be OBSTRUCTION. I think it is a serious charge – or it at least indicates something we should consider seriously.

    This is bad.

    The Administration can’t use “National Security” as an excuse for denying these tapes to the 9/11 Commission. The members of the 9/11 Commission were privy to massive amounts of classified data and secret information that was relevant to “National Security.”

    The problem here is that we point to the 9/11 Commission Report as the definitive account of the 9/11 event. It is a useful tool for deflecting loony conspiracy theories and BUSH DID IT bullshit about 9/11.

    Now it is clearly tainted. If they withheld these tapes from the 9/11 Commission, what else did they withhold – and why?

    Serious bad move and I think we all know that if it had been a President Gore administration (and thank god it isn’t) at the helm we’d be enraged.

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  3. ChrisG says: 4

    The problem is not who is President, but that the CIA is, well, the CIA. President Bush has had clear missed opprotunities in his admin to fix things. However, he was still on the Texas model where people are Americans and Texans first, politicians second. Thus he left Clinton holdovers in power when they should have been replaced.

    That is not how DC, the Dept of State, and the CIA (among others) work. The CIA itself is overrun with fiefdoms, power mongers, political intertests, and unelected, unaccountable, agenda driven government employees. It is a shadow war we are fighting along side the open war with the terrorists. In the shadows are these unaccountable (mostly leftist) government officials, their baronies, and agendas.

    A top to bottom house cleaning is long needed, but we cannot allow anti-American leftists to just repopulate the CIA like they have been.

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  4. RaulS. says: 5

    I think that instead of investigating the CIA, we should assign a special prosecutor and the entire FBI to investigate every Democrat in public office starting with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Then onto Ted Kennedy. I am one democrat that is tired of the Liberals selling out our country to the very countries that hates us and wants to destroy the american way. Why does the democrats fear somebody like George Soros. If he had his way we would be the newest communist led country in the world. Wake up democrats and work for a better America instead of destroying it.

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  5. TL Myers says: 6

    If the Democrats tried half as hard going after terrorists as they do their own country this war could have been won by now.
    All they would need to do is expend a quarter of the effort.

    This is a unique period in American history.
    I never in a million years thought I’d see a mainstream political party in the U.S. support the downfall of it’s own administration during wartime.
    This country is a far cry from what it used to be and the Democrats seem determined as Bin Laden to see us destroyed.
    How can people that are suppose to lead us, lead us down the road to defeat and death?
    I’m thinking about moving to Europe and changing my name to save my family from Democratic harm.

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  6. Seer says: 7

    The problem with y’all is that you’re stuck in an us-versus-them, democrat-vs-republican rut that keeps you from seeing clearly. The fact of the matter is that both parties are corrupt and would do absolutely anything to defeat the other party and keep it from running the country when it is in power. This is business as usual for this country (check out some of the history from the 1800s) but don’t you think it’s time we moved beyond it? This isn’t about the left or the right anymore, it’s about having government that is by the people and for the people… remember that phrase? The Repubs and the Dems are basically the same at this point – more focused on power and personal greed than on our welfare. It’s time we took back our government and placed our loyalty with our nation, not our political party and it’s various self-serving agendas. The fastest cure would be strict term limits and dissolution of party-based politics by removing any and all soft money and party contributions. What do you think politicians would be doing if they couldn’t use their offices to enrich and empower themselves? And what kind of pols would we end up with?

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  7. K. von Gerhke says: 8

    I go with Curt. To wit I want to add that the methods used to extract information from enemies of our nation falls under the purview of protecting both sources and methods and as such is protected under the National Security Act of 1947, As Amended and under the War Powers Act. There is no constitutional requirement that methods and sources employed to protect the national security interest of our nation be preserved. The intelligence committees were briefed on the existence of the videotapes. Their recommendation, suggestion, even urging that the videotapes be preserved does not alter the constitutional prerogative granted to the executive under the War Powers Act to either preserve and to destroy the videotapes.

    We need but to ask why the 9/11 Commission feels so slighted because they were not given the opportunity to view the videotapes of the interrogations. After all they were given the transcripts. Where they not enough? Or was their need to view the videotapes representative of a darker, more perverse, need to witness the cruelty that is within all of us as Thomas Cahill postulates in his seminal treaties on the bleaker side our human nature. Flashbacks to the barbarism of the Roman Colosseum when the masses gather to satiate their sadistic wont to witness the torturous death and dismemberment of Christians and gladiators or to the mob lynching of not so long ago in our very own West when families turned out for a festive day, carrying a picnic lunch, to cheer the hanging of the latest victim. Another Thomas Cahill insight into our darker side! Not to imply that I condone the use of torture but rather to point out that with the absence of laws that temper our darker side we will continue to foster a culture hell bent on employing barbaric methods that throughout history have never been successful as either a means of extracting truth or as a deterrent.

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  8. Al Globus says: 9

    Torture is a crime. People who torture others are criminals. Torture is legally defined as deliberately causing severe mental or physical pain in order to extract information. Waterboarding, and a lot of other current American practices fit this criteria and were once labeled by the US gov’t as torture. If you do these things, you are a criminal and subject to prosecution.

    Following orders is no excuse, according the US at Nuremberg. Getting a note from the Justice Department is also no excuse. Finally, torture is a losing strategy, in spite of occasional tactical advantages gained. According to the US Army and Marine Corp Counterinsurgency Field Manual, practicing torture played a major role in the French losing in Algeria in spite of military success. This is in a sidebar labeled “Lose the High Ground, Lose the War”.

    Criminals need to be brought to justice, not just have a rough congressional hearing. Those who torture are criminals.

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  9. Curt says: 10

    Waterboarding is not torture, and even if it was these two should have had it done to them twofold to get the information we needed.

    To think people like you could be in power someday scares the crap outta me. People who would treat those who want to destroy this country with kid gloves and instead of doing what is needed to get the information that would save thousands of American lives you would walk out of the room.

    You people are insane.

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  10. Sebastian Gomez says: 11

    The article is completely off base. The AG investigation is whether the CIA obstructed justice in destroying the tapes. Obstruction of Justice is a criminal act. Remember, torture with or without political(AG opinion)cover is still torture and what goes aroung comes around.

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  11. Curt says: 12

    The only one who is off base is you. The Commission had the transcripts of the interrogations for the use of determining what happened during 9/11. Democrat and Republican leaders in Congress knew of the tapes and the fact they were going to be destroyed.

    AND

    Waterboarding is not torture, Congress has had plenty of opportunities to deem it as such and have not. So, not torture.

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  12. TL Myers says: 13

    Curt seems to be an example of the type of mentality prevalent in the U.S. during the current war.
    This is the ONLY time in our history that we stand a chance of being destroyed through ignorance.
    Curt’s so sympathetic to those who would slaughter our families and friends with smiles on their faces than he is with the thousands of dead and wounded American soldiers and their families.

    This is a typical liberal attitude. “Help the poor misunderstood terrorists, and for God’s sake help preserve their rights”.
    Even though the terrorists are trying to empede or altogether dismantle our basic rights to peace happiness and prosperity.

    This is a war not a friggin video game. If you don’t adapt the tactics of the winning side you are doomed to lose.
    The farmers during the American revolution would have surely lost against the British redcoats if they had not adapted to the tactics of the native American peoples and waged a guerilla war.

    If we’re going to win this thing we need to get serious and keep politics out of it. But then that begs the question, “Do the (far left) liberals REALLY want to win? Or are they forsaking the lives of our families & friends to take a stab at an unpopular commander and chief? Where do their loyalties lie?
    It’s simple to figure out.
    They’re “supportive” of Muslim extremists for the most part, whether they realize it or not, and stand against America, it’s traditional values, and the people who live here. “Whether they realize this or not”. Sorry Curt, but when someone tries to play “Russian roulette” with the futures of my family and myself, I get concerned.
    Screw the terrorists, screw their rights. They have earned the right to an early grave and that’s all they’ve earned.
    We have to win regardless of the tactics used. If a tiger were mauling your child would you merely poke at it with a twig for fear of harming or irritating it? No, if you were any kind of father you’d try to destroy it because your child is more important to you than the beast. Or at least it should be.
    Let the CIA do it’s job. Take my word for it, it’s important.

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  13. Curt says: 14

    TL, I’m hoping you were directing that comment towards someone else because the post you commented on is mine and all my comments have said exactly the same thing you did.

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  14. TL Myers says: 15

    Sorry I meant Gomez not Curt!! I was just gettin ready to hit the sack and screwed up the names. Too sleepy!! Anyway…my bad.

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