Why Libertarians Have Better Things to Worry About Than the NSA

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John Stossel:

This week, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said the National Security Agency’s data mining violates our Fourth Amendment right to be “secure in their persons, houses, papers” and is “tyranny that our founders rebelled against.” Good for him.

In an op-ed, he adds, “We fought a revolution over issues like generalized warrants, where soldiers would go from house to house, searching anything they liked,” and wonders “which parts of the Constitution this government will next consider negotiable.” Good for him. I’m glad at least one senator reminds Big Government that our Constitution limits federal power.

And many libertarians are furious at this latest intrusion of “Big Brother.”

So what’s wrong with me? I just can’t get that worked up about it.

I know Big Data now in NSA computers probably includes my phone calls. (I hope it’s just time, duration, location and recipients, not my words, too, but I’m not sure.)

I know the snooping may be unnecessary. Government’s claim that it prevents terror is weak: Officials say a terrorist was caught, but New York City police say he was caught via other methods. I’m skeptical about the very claim that any terribly important “secrets” are held by unhappy 29-year-olds and 4.8 million other people (that’s how many Americans hold security clearance for classified material).

So it’s invasive, probably illegal and maybe useless. I ought to be very angry. But I’m not. Why?

I need to keep thinking about this issue, but for now, two reasons:

1. Terrorists do want to murder us. If the NSA is halfway competent, Big Data should help detect plots.

2. My electronic privacy has already been utterly shredded by Google, Amazon, YouTube and so on.

They know with whom I talk, what interests me and how much time I spend doing this or that. They creep me out with targeted ads. How did they know I want that?! Oh, right … I spent an hour searching …

Then I go outside in New York City, where 16 cameras record me on my way to work.

Greedy lawyers can subpoena my private records. My employer has a right to read my emails.

My privacy is already blown.

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David Simon:

Simon is no stranger to the subject of surveillance. And he believes that many of the people angered by this week’s reports simply don’t understand the matter. More specifically, he gets the impression that “the entire news media—as well as the agitators and self-righteous bloviators on both sides of the aisle” do “not understand even the rudiments of electronic intercepts and the manner in which law enforcement actually uses such intercepts.” (Even more specifically, he thinks the New York Times editorial board “displayed an astonishing ignorance of the realities of modern electronic surveillance in its quick, shallow wade into this non-controversy.”) And he has explained why he gets that impression in a 2,500-word post on his website.

Simon likens what the NSA is doing to the wiretaps he wrote about as a Baltimore reporter (and which inspired major storylines on The Wire). In those cases, city detectives tapped public payphones which were used by many, many people, all of whom had an expectation of privacy. The detectives then monitored all the calls being made on the phones. A judge allowed them to do this, Simon says, because they weren’t listening to the calls. It is only when they want to listen to such calls, Simon argues, that the law “requires a full-blooded argument of probable cause.” (In a news conference today, Obama emphasized that “nobody is listening to your telephone calls.”)

“The only thing new” in this week’s reports about the NSA, according to Simon, at least “from a legal standpoint, is the scale on which the FBI and NSA are apparently attempting to cull anti-terrorism leads from that data. But the legal and moral principles? Same old stuff.

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He acknowledges that there “are reasons to object to governmental overreach in the name of law enforcement and anti-terrorism,” but he thinks we should “be more incensed at the notion of an American executive branch firing missiles at U.S. citizens and killing them without the benefit of even an in absentia legal proceeding” than by what the NSA is doing with these surveillance programs.

If we learn of “FISA-court approved intercepts of innocent Americans that occurred because weak probable cause was acceptable,” then, he says, we should get upset. But we shouldn’t, in his opinion, be bothered—or surprised—by this data collection. “Frankly,” he says, “I’m a bit amazed that the NSA and FBI have their shit together enough to be consistently doing what they should be doing with the vast big-data stream of electronic communication.”

@Wordsmith:

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He acknowledges that there “are reasons to object to governmental overreach in the name of law enforcement and anti-terrorism,” but he thinks we should “be more incensed at the notion of an American executive branch firing missiles at U.S. citizens and killing them without the benefit of even an in absentia legal proceeding” than by what the NSA is doing with these surveillance programs.

Sorry, I don’t accept that premise. As an American citizen, I have a reasonable expectation of privacy. If I mail a letter in a government facility (the Post Office) I am giving up my right to complain when they read who the letter is mailed to. If I make a phone call in the privacy of my home, I have a reasonable expectation that if the government wants that information, they can seek a warrant based on other facts that indicate illegal behavior.

A judge allowed them to do this, Simon says, because they weren’t listening to the calls.

So are we to assume that just because a judge said it was OK, the letter of Constitutional law was followed? Sorry, Wordsmith, but you seem to have more trust in the judiciary that I do.

If we learn of “FISA-court approved intercepts of innocent Americans that occurred because weak probable cause was acceptable,” then, he says, we should get upset.

I offer you the case of James Rosen where the DoJ actually lied about him. Still want to trust this government not to violate your civil rights, Wordsmith?