When Self-Defense Becomes a Crime, Civilization Is Already Dead

In keeping with this week’s theme of immigration, power, and trust, let’s peruse the latest outrage reel from the UK.

Here we have a grown man with an immigrant accent (sounds Pakistani or thereabouts to me, but i could be wrong) following two young girls and badgering and filming them.

One of the girls is armed. She’s not (at the start) threatening or seeking to threaten anyone, she’s trying to get away, trying to leave. But this guy is having none of it. He keeps coming and will not leave her alone. And he wants this documented and will not back off.

And then the girl wound up arrested.

He did the math correctly.

And that means the calculus must change.

1. Why was this man interacting aggressively with girls this age to begin with, especially to the point where they are screaming, “don’t touch us”?
2. What had happened just prior to or in past interactions that this man knew the girl to be armed or that the girl felt a need to make it known that she was armed (again, while demanding not to be touched).

I’m sort of amazed by the number of epistemological edge lord lawyers online saying “well, we really need to wait and see what happened” as though this situation seems ambiguous and perhaps scotland is being terrorized by a plague of wee lassies bullying the innocent menfolk, but info is starting to leak out.

Some reports are stating that:

“The apparent mother of one of the teens present at the scene claims that the man and another woman were sexually propositioning a young girl when she intervened. The migrants then allegedly attacked her, and that is when the weapons came out.”

This has always seemed the likely base case to me. Girls that age don’t go attack strange men, and strange men like that don’t follow and film girls that age aggressively for any good reasons. The odds on bet was always “he tried something shady/assaultive, the girl told him to get away, he kept coming, and she said she was armed to get him to back off.”

That’s the simple, obvious story that makes sense and fits all the facts.

i get the whole “well, it could be this wild corner case!” thinking and the logic space it constitutes, but at a certain point when one is standing on railroad tracks in a tunnel and sees an onrushing light approaching amidst much noise, “maybe it’s not a train but rather a magical sleigh full of elves coming to bring me a cookie!” is just not a good bet. No one can really live like that (for long).

The question is always “when do we have enough information to develop a high-quality view likely to lead to useful actions?”

This is always a collage of context and data. That’s how decision theory works. You never wait for ALL the data to decide if someone constitutes a threat. The people who did that all got eaten by saber-toothed tigers and lions, and bears back in the day, or got conked on the head by the tribe from over the hill.

Their genes are no longer with us.

Sound, rapid decision closure is highly adaptive, as is strong knowledge of local context.

In light of recent events in the UK, fear by girls like this of men like our amateur film maker hardly seems out of place, and faith that “police” will do anything apart from come and join in the grooming gang rape seems dangerously misplaced.

This is not how civilization is supposed to work.

Let’s be serious about the salients here:

“don’t touch my little sister, she’s f*cking 12!” is not exactly an extreme ask from a child to an adult male stranger.

And somehow she’s the criminal in this episode?

How is the first question not automatically “why would she feel a need to go about armed and scream such things?”

“Oh, maybe she’s crazy or BPD!”

ok, maybe, but big assumption there and one that ignores some important context:

UK grooming and rape are not some small, isolated incidents. It’s been hundreds of thousands of girls. The sheer scale of it is all but incomprehensible. I’m embarrassed at how long it took me to realize that this was real. It was just too big to believe.

This has been going on for decades. rapists walk free. The police side with them and arrest fathers who stand up. Speak out about it, and you get sent to diversity training or get the Tommy Robinson treatment of political prisonerhood.

And little girls are left to stand alone.

Then they get blamed for doing it.

Well, what the hell did you want them to do?

How is “she was being harassed” not the odds on base case presumption?

And how is the fact that it is anything but an extreme indictment of current affairs?

It probably will not surprise anyone to learn this, but i stand with the little girls.

because this whole grooming gang saga is an atrocity.

Under Geneva, it would be a war crime.

And under any sane or reasonable ethical system not only preventing but destroying such predation stands as moral imperative.

And the UK has been doing shockingly, conspicuously, “seriously, what is the culpability of the officials,” little to get to the bottom of it or stop if from continuing.

I do not want to hear about cultural sensitivity or difference, of tolerance for this or fear of being called a racist by the crybully industrial complex.

Anyone who fails to grasp this moral imperative or stands against it is anathema. I simply do not care about your “reasons.” You’re not someone with whom a civilization can be shared.

And somehow, the local press report on this is a total whitewash.

To describe this as “political capture” seems altogether inadequate to express how dire this situation has become.

Again, just what are the incentives here, and what are these editors working in the service of?

because you can basically tell who the perp is and where the shady bits lie by what they leave out.

In fine soviet and maoist tradition, the white space informs more than the letters set to the page.

No mention of adult male harassers, no other side to the story, no reason, no rationale. The story is the charge she’s up on.

On what planet is this possibly the story here?

No planet you want to live on. That much is certain.

let’s make this as simple as humanly possible:

If the girls of your society feel a need to carry weapons to protect themselves and their 12 year old sisters from the predations of grown men who can follow, groom, and even rape them with impunity, there is only one question:

How do you stop this?

Anyone claiming otherwise is not someone who gets a voice.

not anymore. never again. never should have had one in the first place.

Sorry, not sorry.

The endless appeasement of this sort of behavior is ravaging the West.

The data is stark.

This is a canary so badly poisoned that it fell dead in a strip mine.

Note the one nation bucking this trend. Now ask me what their immigration policy or tolerance for this sort of behavior is.

yeah.

This is not happenstance.

This is a choice.

The poles are still the hard men made by the hard times of soviet domination. They know better than to fall for this crap and have no compunction about telling you in very direct, in your face terms to “go to hell” if you try to sell it to them.

This is the response of a healthy society, sure of itself and its values.

The rest of the West has become “the other guys,” the soft men making hard times.

And mostly, it’s an own goal.

No child should face this choice

If the response of your society is to arrest this girl, who harmed no one, and to act as though the man following and harassing her is the victim here, then your society has ended.

You are not a real people anymore.

You are food.

Worse, you are collaborators in serving yourself and your neighbors up as a predator buffet.

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