by SIMPLICIUS THE THINKER
The Prigozhin saga has appeared to have concluded in the expected and predictable manner. Prigozhin now claims all is fine, and that a new deal has been struck with the Russian MOD to deliver all appropriate ammo, plus securing of the Wagner flanks. This was after Chechen leader Kadyrov claimed to have already been sending his men to take over Bakhmut from Wagner.

Prigozhin claims that previous theater commander Surovikin has now been appointed as some sort of special liaison to Wagner in terms of logistics and supply.
I’d go deeper into this entire situation, unpacking what it could mean, and what it was all about, but to be quite frank, I think most of us agree that this entire saga was quite tedious and tiresome, and is ultimately a circular argument of who was to blame, whether it was all just theater, etc. If it’s truly resolved then I think for now we can move on and not need to devote massive page space to this anymore. The only people doing so so are likely just trying to profit from the sensationalist clickbait circumstances surrounding this strange episode. I’ll return to it if it flares up again, but for now it appears not much is left to be said on it other than, as someone recently aptly flourished: “The dogs bark, but the caravan rolls on.”
Only thing I’ll say is that numerous sources from the AFU continue to maintain that the Wagner saga was an illusion, and that no ammunition depletion is recorded. For instance, in a new CNN article, spokesman for AFU’s eastern grouping, Serhii Cherevatyi, said:
“Now they are firing more than 20,000 shells a day. That’s why (Prigozhin’s remarks on ammunition starvation) is a complete bluff,” he said.

Another report where Ukrainian sources state that new Wagner units with additional equipment and ammo are “constantly arriving” for a final strike on AFU positions, and that this does not match what Wagner has been saying:

And a Ukrainian site claims that Ukrainian intelligence reported Wagner was not withdrawing anywhere, even days before it was magically ‘resolved’.

Ukraine’s GUR representative stated:
“Prigozhin is not going to withdraw Wagner mercenaries from Bakhmut. He made these statements because he cannot fulfill another promise – to capture Bakhmut by May 9. Therefore, he is now trying to make someone guilty of this, because he understands that he can no longer keep his word,” explained the representative of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry (GUR MO) Andriy Chernyak in a commentary to the news agency RBC-Ukraine.
Funnily enough, in the same report, Ukrainian GUR appears to confirm some of the theories from the Russian side, which is that Wagner is not ‘low on shells’ per se, but rather that Wagner is greedy for an endless increase of them, which no amount will satiate:
Chernyak stressed that at present the Main Intelligence Directorate does not observe any withdrawals of troops in the Bakhmut area.
However, the Wagner mercenaries do have some problems with the ammunition supply, Chernyak notes.
“But no matter how much ammunition they get, it will not be enough for them. That is, the more they are given, the more they need and the more they want to get,” he explained.
Even Strelkov was dubious about the Prigozhin saga and posted a message from one of his close frontline friends, who said Prigozhin’s antics were fakery:
Strelkov: Just in case – the man is well known to me (a ’14 volunteer), completely unselfish (and, by the way, quite independent of me), and is now at the front.
__________________
I think the “turmoil” in the interwebs about the “scandalous statement” by Cook [ed: they call Prigozhin “cook” disparagingly] should be stopped!
I argue :
1. Repeated display of the corpses of his soldiers can do only a fuckhead who has lost all sense of boundaries!
2. The court fucker can’t “just lose his edge”! Because this happens only “by the highest permission”, otherwise the fucker would be nullified “once / twice”, as once not too long ago, nullified the same “Wagner” commanders of Novorossiya! [ed: What he’s saying here is that there’s no way Prigozhin would be able to do any of what he claims without full permission from the highest echelons of the MOD]
3. “Shells” have absolutely nothing to do with it! Everyone else is given much less shells!
4. The disposal of their personnel in the “Wagner” is more successful than anywhere else at the front, and the shrieks of the exalted public about “the most combat-ready unit” end exactly at the moment when their relative is “put on the meat”!
5. Unimaginable for Putinia, public behavior like that of the “cook” is only possible, again, only “with the highest permission”! [ed: Once again, he re-iterates that Prigozhin’s statements and decisions can only happen with highest permission]
6. There are no “mobsters caught on the street” in “Wagner”! All of them are volunteers there, and not like they were in Donbass in ’14, but exclusively “for money”! And the “compensation” to relatives for the death of their loved one is much less than the “compensation” for this “most effective” military unit!
…Hence, one can draw conclusions “about the poor “cook” and his “disinterestedness” in “historic” assault of a town 10 km in diameter during eight months…!
Anyway, enough of the Kremlin bullshit!)
As can be seen, this Strelkov disciple who is a soldier allegedly at the frontline, firmly believes this was a ‘Kremlin performance’. Interestingly, to those who still believe Prigozhin can act independently, one thing his performance revealed was that he does in fact require permission from the Kremlin, since he ended up posting a letter “requesting permission” from the MOD to pull Wagner out of Bakhmut, prior to finally resolving the issue today.
The below is for curiosity purposes, posted by Prigozhin yesterday, addressed to Shoigu, asking for “permission”: “I ask you to issue a combat order on the transfer of the positions of Wagner…” etc. As you can see, even as fuming mad as he ostensibly was, he still had to request permission from Shoigu to do anything, at least as part of the ‘performance’.

One other key revelation from the episode, however, was Prigozhin’s reiteration that Ukraine is losing 400-600 men in Bakhmut per day, which should silence the doubters who claimed these events mean that Russia is now suffering a lopsided loss ratio against Ukraine.

This was from Prigozhin’s new video which can be seen here: VIDEO LINK.
Another statement from a Ukrainian source:
All Prigozhin’s statements about “exiting Bakhmut” are all fakes and lies, and “these will be difficult days of missile attacks, attacks by Shaheds,” because “Russia wants to stage a bloody show in Ukraine.”
And lastly, for anyone that’s interested, prior to the resolution, Prigozhin had released a pretty exhaustive document which clarified all the issues with a lot of interesting details, which can be read in full here (just run it through an auto-translator): LINK.
The document has some very interesting observations from a tactical standpoint as Prigozhin goes into battle details. He confirms, for instance, that there are 30k Wagnerians against 35k AFU directly in Bakhmut and 80k+ total in general area near Bakhmut. He also states that Wagner consumes on average 6000 shells per day.
Using these numbers, he makes some interesting accounts by way of Soviet artillery theory, such as the following:
– Second: according to the norms defined by the Rules of Shooting and Fire Control, the consumption of ammunition for suppressing the enemy’s platoon strongpoint is 180 shells per 1 hectare. The average length of the front of the Wagner PMC, taking into account different periods, is 80 km. This is about 400 enemy strongholds. Their suppression requires 180 x 400, that is, 72 thousand shells per day. And so on every day.
He also states the following:
31. To maintain combat capability during a full-scale war, losses (“200th” and “300th”) of 10-12% in 25 days (the duration of a conditional military operation) are considered acceptable.
The arithmetic is very simple:
— If you give 18 thousand shells a day, the loss is 10%;
— If they give 6 thousand shells a day, the loss is 24%;
— If you give 2 thousand shells a day, the loss is 35% or higher.
No one counts 10% of ammunition from the norm. In this case, the unit is doomed to death. Now we get 10%.
Lastly and most interestingly, Prigozhin states something which appears to answer a question I had last time, in that he believes that Russia currently produces enough shells to fully arm everyone as needed, and as such the ‘shell hunger’ induced is ‘artificial’:
38. The Russian military industry has reached the level of projectile production sufficient to fully support about 5 such combat-ready formations as the Wagner PMC, with a front length of 120-150 km and a simultaneous offensive along all sectors of the front.
39. The volume of weapons and ammunition stocks allows us to provide for everyone, including in standard quantities.
This is an interesting admission, seeing as how he states that Wagner fires 6000 shells per day. So if he’s saying that Russia’s current production is already at a level of being able to support five such Wagner groups simultaneously, this appears to imply that, in his opinion, Russia is currently manufacturing upwards of 6k x 5 = 30,000 shells per day, which would be 900,000 per month, and 10.8 million per year. This is a little hard to believe, although my previous estimates given in a past report were that Russia currently produces maybe in the 300-400k per month range at the most, with long term ramp ups ongoing and that they would eventually be able to possibly hit 7+ million per year, which is ~600k per month, and 20k per day.
Prigozhin appears to believe they’re way ahead of schedule with that, at least insofar as I understand his implications.
It looks like Putin is winning the propaganda war…as well as the actual war.
Who would have thought?
There has never been doubt. We see zero legacy media stories about Ukraine winning a single battle.
Since Putin’s invasion began, Ukraine has pushed the invaders back on every front.
Ukraine has lost almost 300,000 troops and lost ground.
Russia hasn’t even joined the fight, using mercs to do the work for now (as they ALWAYS do, historically).
Somebody probably reminded Prigozhin that if he didn’t change his tune Putin would have him killed.
Prigozhin, yesterday:
They reportedly fled from Ukraine’s Third Assault Brigade, which was formed from the remains of the Azov Battalion.
05/10/23 – Ukraine Is Neutralizing Russian Air Defense Systems Ahead Of The Counteroffensive
Trump’s Town Hall Meeting is on CNN tonight at 8 PM Eastern. Be sure to watch and bump up CNN’s ratings.
It will also stream live online at cnn.com, no login required.
CNN not getting what they wanted. This is embarrassing for cnn.
They’re getting exactly what they expected. They knew what he would do and how he would behave. That was the entire point.
Five minutes, refusing to answer the question.
biden would not be able to last 5 minutes on a live town hall.
Smart move. No sane politician would answer one way or another.
biden will never have to answer that because it will never happen while he occupies 1600 Pennsylvania ave.
The GOP is going to be burned to the ground if this guy is their 2024 nominee—and he’s going to be.
We’ll see. It’s a long road to November 2024.
Greg you are a MKUltra success story

If you try to assassinate Trump, you know you lost.
https://twitter.com/DannyC_DC1111/status/1656466268533276674
He’s in far more danger of that from right-wing extremists than from the left. The left wants to hold things together. The extreme right wants a triggering event.
They fantasize about civil war and armed uprisings constantly.
The Left is breaking things apart. That’s what they want.
Fake racism, more crime, disarming the population, opening the border for a softening invasion.
At this point greg, the only proper thing to say to you is….
fuck you.
You jerkoffs are the ones planning a triggering event, and like J6th, you’ll say it was “Trump” or someone else who did it.
Not going to work, traitor.
No one has disarmed the population, though we should definitely consider disarming some people.
That’s right. NO ONE has disarmed the population.
Remember that when you try to disarm “some people.”
Remember how they disarmed the most recent mall shooter.
That guy was groomed, made, and supplied by the FBI/CIA.
You’re killing people so you can justify taking guns away.
Meanwhile, I’ll show you why you’re losing.
Trump just handed CNN, and every bullshit Leftist like you, their ASSES tonight.
The country is already being burned to the ground by Biden and the fake regime.
Trump is the firehose we need.
Sit DOWN, you moron.
No doubt Trump’s televised attack on Carroll will improve the odds of overturning the defamation judgement.
Blah. The fake “ruling” in the fake civil case won’t do a damn thing.
He’s our next President, that’s for sure now.
You won’t stop him…and if you do, it will be illegally…and if you try, we’ll have your asses in jail.
Shut up, stop lying, and let us have our democracy you idiot.
Your opinion means absolutely nothing.
Who will be your nominee now that biden will not be running?
Trump isn’t the only one OWNING CNN and their lying asses…
Notice how they try to talk over someone when they are telling the truth?
https://twitter.com/JamesBradleyCA/status/1656464472284844033?t=MX2zqPRXqipw5EkQamZfDg&s=19
Bahahahaha
Straight talk from The Church of Trump? The stained glass isn’t working.
https://www.boston.com/sports/college-sports/2023/05/10/georgia-championship-team-declines-white-house-invitation/
Shut up, greg.
Seriously. Shut up. We’re done with you people.
Hand back the nation and stop pretending you are in charge.
Joe Biden: “Don’t judge me against the Almighty, judge me against the alternative.”
And in that Judgement Biden is easy to flush down the toilet.
Trump is our choice, and he’s going to get the job.
Hell, it’s not like Biden is the president now anyway?
He won’t miss the job he never had.
Byron Daniels, taking you fools to task.
It’s not Trump. It’s Truth.
You can’t hang.
“Most people understand what happened. That was a rigged election and it’s a shame that we had to through it. It’s very bad for our Country.”
Well said.
Welll who is the alternative to the almighty…who could that be?
A man that pinches little girls nipples.
Judged against anything, he is a corrupt, incompetent loser. Judged against Trump and he is a joke.
Trump’s plan for addressing inflation, deficits, and the economy: “Drill baby drill.” He might as well have honked a clown horn. (The US is the world’s greatest producer of both refined petroleum products and crude oil.)
How do you deal with Putin’s aggression? “i would stop the war in 24 hours. That’s all it would take.” *HONK*HONK*
Dude, just take the L.
You guys suck, and Trump owned your collective Leftwing tyrannical asses tonight.
What a freaking stud.
Trump: “I’d negotiate and end this war and the killing in 24 hours”
greg: “I don’t want that. I want people to die.”
Maybe you’re the enemy we should be fighting, since you’re the one killing people?
In Ukraine, and the malls?
“Mercy Rule”: CNN Abruptly Cut Trump Town Hall Short by Twenty Minutes
CNN cut short the network’s town hall with President Trump Wednesday night by twenty minutes after Trump, backed by a wildly supportive audience (hand picked by CNN), took control of the forum from anchor Kaitlan Collins right from the start and never let up. The live event at St. Anselm College in New Hampshire was scheduled to run from 8 p.m. EDT until 9:30 p.m., however right before 9:10 p.m. Collins abruptly ended the town hall.
Puck’s Dylan Byers reported on CNN cutting the town hall short, “Note: The CNN Town Hall was a 90 minute broadcast, though the network expected the actual event to go as long as 75 minutes. They stopped less than 70 minutes in. In other words, they could have gone longer if they wanted—which is usually what executives do with big ratings draws”
Breitbart’s Joel Pollak observed the audience was laughing at Collins, “The @CNN audience is laughing at Kaitlin Collins because she keeps trying to squeeze Trump’s answers into her preconceived categories. It’s stupid and, yes, it is funny to laugh at her doing that.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv0GCkWaAAAbm-o?format=jpg&name=small
Trump will probably get indicted for murder after killing the CNN town hall.
It’ll be the only legitimate charge he’s currently facing.
Makes sense.
greg wants more people dead.
I don’t believe in Trump’s magical powers. He would simply abandon Ukraine to Putin, and blame Biden for the war and Russia’s expansion. That’s what he would do.
Sure because its true, and Biden Crime family income would be zero not 10s of millions.
Greg your IQ test came back, good news its negative.
Stop funding the war, the war ends.
Get energy prices down, things get cheaper, inflation ends.
05/11/23 – Military Says Russians Retreat Around Bakhmut As Zelenskiy Vows To Free All Of Ukraine –
Putin, losing.
Russia is winning.
The globalists are losing.
NO American supports this war.
Ukraine, you actually believe that bull? The most corrupt Nation on the planet, only government media allowed.
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1656643887237038080?t=Q4eeFOOLIXzArLaM5_p4IA&s=19
3 weeks ago. Grim reality. The DaVinci Wolves Gonor Group under Russian assault. The Ukrainian squad has one helluva leader. The Russians are simply throwing bodies against their position.
5 days ago.
Russia is winning.
The WEF/installed puppets wanted this war, and started it on purpose.
Putin invaded Ukraine. Ukraine’s only “aggression” has been to resist the murderous bastard behind the invasion on their own territory. Rational people understand this.
Rational people are not buying that narrative.
How would Trump cultists know? They’re only listening to Putin propaganda, poured incessantly into the right wing echo chamber.
I know competent, highly trained soldiers when I see them. The videos tell me a lot. Putin’s only hope is for the West to withdraw support, and that’s not going to happen—Putin’s right-wing propaganda termites notwithstanding. Trump isn’t going to slither into the Oval Office a second time.
Unkraine is broken. Russia is winning.
U.S. Citizens are about to pull Biden and the regime down form their unelected positions for wasting our money in Ukriane.
GM Nate happy Thursday.
And good day to you, kitt.
It sure as hell doesn’t look like it in the front line videos, does it? Putin’s invasion is broken, and it’s only going to get worse.
05/11/23 – Russian soldier surrenders in Bakhmut and is told to follow drone to Ukrainian trenches
Morale in the Russian trenches is not so good. I hope the poor guy makes it home to a post-Putin Russia.
Yay Putin, Yay Iran, Yay Trump, f*ck Biden. The pattern is certainly clear enough for a non-idiot.
We all know your motto – Yay Nazi’s!!!!
I see Russians firing on their own, as he finds his way to his Ukrainian captors.
https://twitter.com/imetatronink/status/1656865643055165443?t=GRiHcRA6fYV6fkdWk-Mp5Q&s=19
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1656790638459858944?t=LQWh12MCyBkUYDV4MP_jRw&s=19