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Left eats left.
Via BPR:
Rebecca Nagle, a bona fide Cherokee Nation citizen and a self-described “two spirit (queer) woman,” just wrote a piece for the liberal website Think Progress that is bound to stun Democrats set on defending Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Warren has been mercilessly lampooned as “Pocahontas” by President Trump for her baseless Native American heritage claims, and yet the media has chosen to focus on Trump’s choice of words instead of the fact that Warren is unfairly portraying herself as someone she’s clearly not in order to get ahead.
But Nagle is having none of it.
After acknowledging the assumption that “as a young Cherokee woman” she would “take Warren’s side,” Nagle noted that merely standing up to Trump, whom she disagrees with also, doesn’t make Warren a hero.
“She was not a hero to me when she failed to foster a haven of support for Native students within Harvard University’s alienating Ivy League culture,” Nagle writes. “She is not a hero for spending years awkwardly avoiding Native leaders. She is not a hero because, despite claiming to be the only Native woman in the U.S. Senate, she has done nothing to advance our rights.”
“She is not from us. She does not represent us. She is not Cherokee.”
Nagle outlined the root of the Warren / Native American controversy and how the then-Harvard Law School professor “categorized herself as ‘Native American’ during a time when the minority status served her career and later dropped the marker after gaining tenure.”
Except, “…as Native people, we are relegated to being invisible, while Warren is not.”
“High cheekbones” aside, Warren’s baseless claims boil down to “racist stereotypes and easily refutable stories about her family,” and Nagle notes that Cherokee genealogists can find zero evidence to support them.
Well….. DUH.
Elizabeth Warren has never claimed to be Cherokee. Her only claim has been to have some Native American family heritage. Specifically, that her great-great-great grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was Native American. Her claim, therefore, has only been that she is 1/32 part Native American.
She has taken pride in that family tradition. She has received no preferential treatment because of it—neither financial aid, nor college admission preference, nor hiring preference.
So what the hell is the problem with it? Maybe somebody could spell that out very clearly, in no uncertain terms, so it will be more apparent to people who don’t think things through for themselves what a total load of b.s. the criticism is.
I won’t hold my breath. It’s obvious to those who do think things through what this is all about: The right is very much afraid of this woman. As they well should be. Put her on a presidential ticket and see what happens. Pair her up with someone like Joe Kennedy III. Or Joe Biden.
Add to those possibilities the fact that the GOP and Donald Trump have nearly 3 more years left to continue engineering their own political destruction—a thing for which they seem to have a natural talent.
@Greg:
She tried to make a buck off of it. She’s a liar, a fraud and a racist. And she’s a coward about it.
Fauxahontas will not meet with Native Americans that want to discuss her claims
You know who her ancestor IS?
Warren’s ancestor helps round up Cherokees for the “Trail of Tears”
https://bb4sp.com/warren-ancestor-trail-tears/
The mainstream Dem party, including people like Warren, has not kept up with the move Leftward of many orgs, like Think Progress.
So, those orgs will be distancing themselves from old-fashioned Dems.
Luis Guiterrez quit the Congress the other day to do 2 things:
1. rebuild the home of his parents in Puerto Rico, and
2. create a new neoDem party, far to the Left of the existing one.
If he gets all that done he also is hinting at making a run for President in 2020.
So, we are seeing a move to the Left by Dems at the same time a new coalition of Reps/indies and other previously non-voting Americans moves to the center in support of Donald Trump.
Which group must, by math alone, become larger?
Not the Dems or the new neoDems, they will shrink.
Fundraising is the proof.
Dems lowest year intake in recent history.
GOP highest in history.
@Bill… Deplorable Me, #3:
Can you cite and link some proven examples? Because I haven’t seen anyone provide any credible evidence for such claims. Which is pretty much par for the course in Trump World.
Did you happen to notice that the claim Michael Patrick Leahy makes about Warren’s great-great-great grandfather in Breitbart is based on another story that appeared in Legal Insurrection that same day—May 8, 2012—and that the only “evidence” cited by Legal Insurrection is Michael Patrick Leahy’s own claim in the aforementioned Breitbart article?.
Both mention “evidence” that is never presented, and the two links run anyone who clicks on them in a circle. This is utterly ridiculous—but apparently totally invisible to people who leave the articles totally convinced that evidence has been provided.
So again, tell me what evidence you have against Warren. I’m saying there is none whatsoever; that the accusations against her are nothing but politically motivated lies, and that all of this is just one more example of the right’s astonishing gullibility and willingness to believe whatever they’re told by their own false news, disinformation echo box.
She has no obligation to prove stories that are part of her personal family tradition, because they’ve been presented as nothing more than that.
Obama, Hillary and the MSM have put a DNR on the DNC.
@Greg:
In addition to the vivid examples I have already provided:
Warren tries to explain how she is so rich when she advocates so much socialism for everyone else
http://moonbattery.com/?p=88142
Good for thee not for me Warren has nothing to say on Equal Pay Day
In addition to other lies, Warren fails to disclose $1.3 million line of credit
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/27/elizabeth-warren-fails-to-disclose-1-3-million-line-of-credit/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
Warren trying to negotiate with Anderson Cooper to call Bannon racist
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/308227-cooper-to-warren-no-evidence-bannon-a-white-supremacist
Warren calls Hillary a corporate puppet
http://truthfeed.com/shock-video-2004-elizabeth-warren-describes-hillary-as-a-corporate-donor-puppet/6677/
Elizabeth hammers Trump for doing what she liked to do
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/05/25/elizabeth-warren-trafficked-shattered-dreams-turn-quick-buck/
Harvard bragged about Warren’s Native American heritage
http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220427warren_i_didnt_know_harvard_law_promoted_my_native_american_lineage
Fauxahontas will not meet with Native Americans that want to discuss her claims
Elizabeth Warren: native American
http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/innovations/a-bad-week-for-elizabeth-warren-and-affirmative-action/32496
Warren admits she falsely claimed to be Native American and that she, in fact, is not
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/fake-indian-confession-elizabeth-warren-i-told-harvard-i-was-native-american/
Warren: yet another uber-wealthy liberal that has never worked who knows how hard the working guy has it
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/010915-734164-liz-warren-wealthy-class-warrior.htm#ixzz3OYApLJg9
Warren wants to shut down the government
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevinglass/2014/12/11/how-the-media-is-covering-elizabeth-warrens-plan-to-shut-down-the-government-n1930525
the stupid bitch has never taken a DNA test
@Bill… Deplorable Me, #7:
Vivid examples can be found confirming just about anything people want to believe and read about. That’s because such material is a product, created to be sold on a market. The fact that it’s out there in endless abundance doesn’t mean it’s true; it only means that there’s a reliable demand for it.
Journalistic standards have nothing whatsoever to do with satisfying such a demand.
@M0S #8541, #8:
He still hasn’t made his tax returns available as he promised to do, either. He was going to do that as soon as the “audit” was done, remember?
You seem to have no problem whatsoever with that highly consequential lie, yet you’re outraged by the possibility that Elizabeth Warren might not really be 1/32 Native American?
@Greg:
Two returns, in addition to his financial disclosure, have been made public. Like “Russian collusion”, after you’ve been looking for something to attack Trump on for two years and you can’t find it, you should accept the fact that you are W R O N G.
@Bill… Deplorable Me, #11:
BULLSHIT. He hasn’t released his tax returns for any years. A couple of pages of his 2005 IRS 1040 were leaked without his consent, and those were insufficient to determine much of anything.
Wow way to let Greg drag you off topic, Warren is a liar the native Americans have no use for this liar and want a full apology.
Only hardcore brain washed liberals give 2 Sh!ts about Trumps private information, but watching Madcow get scooped because she must rattle on and on and on was Priceless! Only to prove he paid taxes lol lol lol
enjoy
even better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_U-oomP9E
@kitt: Oh, I just love fanning Greg’s ire when he starts whining about Trump’s returns after they have seen two of them and could not get anything they could use out of them. But, after he has been shown how Wahoo Warren makum much wampum off of speaking with forked tongue about being Native American and being a wealthy social justice warrior in the happy hunting ground of naive liberal idiots, he’s GOT to change the subject.
@kitt, #13:
Seriously? When he dodged the issue before the election by promising voters that he would make his returns available for public inspection as soon as the “audit” was completed? When that would answer very serious questions regarding the extent of his financial conflicts of interest, Russian investments and influences, and whether or not the tax reform package will in fact personally cost him a lot of money—as he has repeatedly claimed—or put tens of millions of additional dollars in his pocket?
I’ve never before in my life seen people so willing to be deceived and so willing to ignore the fact that they’re being repeatedly lied to. They’re about to be taken to the cleaners by way of the republican tax reform bill, and they’re convinced it’s all about helping working people and average American families. People can be distracted from the pending shakedown by something as flat-out stupid and irrelevant as a controversy about Elizabeth Warren’s great-great-great grandmother. But just ask if Trump is up to his ears in Russian investment money, or about to line his pockets by a change in tax laws, and point out that there’s a simple way to answer such questions. Suddenly they’re outraged that anyone would dare to ask.
@Greg: Yes seriously a citizens financial business is their own and not any busy bodies business. Its called a right to privacy. If it drives you and Madcow bonkers all the better.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/324016-wh-releases-trump-tax-info-ahead-of-msnbc-report-made-150m-in-2005
Elizabeth Warrens forefather rounded up the Cherokees for the trail of tears. She hasn’t one iota of american indian blood. She speaks with a forked tongue.
@Bill… Deplorable Me, #14:
Why don’t you post a link to those two years’ tax returns, then everyone will be able see for themselves how stupid I am for believing that he hasn’t actually released squat?
This, by the way, doesn’t fill the bill—unless a person is a frickin’ moron. It isn’t two years, it’s two pages, among the least informative of all. And he didn’t even willingly provide that.
@kitt, #16:
NOT when you’re President of the United States. If you want to hold that position of power and trust, you necessarily have to be willing to surrender the levels of privacy claimed by private citizens—because you no longer are one. You have become an employee of the people.
Did you consider Bill Clinton’s financial business to be only his own business? You didn’t even consider his sex life to be private. Did you consider Hillary Clinton’s business to be private?
@Greg:
He answered the questions; there ARE none. Remember taking Hillary’s word for it that she didn’t keep classified information on her private, secret, unsecured email server? Trump is far more credible than Hillary, who lies with every breath she draws. Believe him.
Uh, YOU…. Obama. YOU…. Hillary. YOU… Warren. YOU… Sanders. YOU…. Schumer. YOU… Pelosi.
Maddow steps in a big pile of it, revealing Trump paid a LOT of taxes
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/15/trump-hits-msnbc-for-fake-news-after-tax-return-report.html
NYT reports Trump paid no taxes… NYT paid no taxes
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/10/02/new-york-times-paid-no-taxes-2014/
Trump has filed the requisite financial disclosures. Two of his returns have been released. Like your dream of Russian collusion (or, the nightmare of DEMOCRAT Russian collusion), your hopes are shattered when you don’t find what you convinced yourself was there. Just like when the left when hooby-gooby over Palin’s emails and the left spent hundreds of hours looking for dirt on her, you’ll have to face the reality that Trump is not the villain you need him to be.
Waa. Waa, waa, waa.
The left is putting all it’s eggs in one basket, hoping to remove Trump from office instead of developing an agenda that will appeal to the citizens more than Trump’s. You’ve become a miserable joke.
@Bill… Deplorable Me: But But But if he releases his taxes we can then get into our time machines and change the vote and stuff Hillary will be in the Whitehoue and Utopia man U friggen topia!
check out Bernie at the end.
@Bill… Deplorable Me, #18:
Where’s the link to those tax returns you claim Trump has made available?
@Greg: So sorry Greg they were on Lois Learners hard drive. Damn huh.
As long as we’re all in agreement about the fact that Trump hasn’t actually released any of his tax returns yet, I can appreciate the humor. Finding the humor in things seems to be getting harder lately.
@Greg: I provided both. When both of those were released, they were big news with lots of coverage. The fact that you now deny being aware of them reveals a high level of dishonesty. However, I think Sara Huckabee’s response was much better.
Well, you know, except that she actually did…at least when it looked like enough information was going to come out that she was going to get caught.
“(By Lucy Madison CBS News May 31, 2012) After more than a month of scrutiny surrounding Elizabeth Warren’s past claims to Native American lineage, the Democratic Massachusetts Senate candidate on Thursday acknowledged for the first time that she had told several employers about her purported Cherokee heritage.
Previously, Warren had said she had been unaware that Harvard Law School touted her as a Native American employee during her tenure there.
“I think I read it on the front page of the Herald,” Warren said in late April, when asked about Harvard’s having promoted her purported minority status.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/warren-concedes-she-told-harvard-and-penn-about-native-american-ancestry/
I think you spend too much time swallowing the Media Matters party line and can’t realize that you lefties are the ones being lied to. Who else continually falls for the assertion by their party’s leaders that they are never aware of what’s going on until they read it in the newspapers? Seriously? These folks supposedly have paid intelligence professionals to give them daily briefings on pertinent issues, but over and over again spout the ‘I didn’t know it until I saw it in the paper’ line?
How many times did the Obama administration use the word ‘unexpectedly’ in their various reports? Did anyone in that administration have the remotest clue as to what was actually going on?
“As I have confirmed before, I let people know about my Native American heritage in a national directory of law school personnel,” Warren said in the statement. “At some point after I was hired by them, I also provided that information to the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard. My Native American heritage is part of who I am, I’m proud of it and I have been open about it.”
Hmmm…so when was/is she telling the truth? Did she not know U Penn and Harvard were listing her as a minority professor? OR did was she the one who gave them the information? Maybe she’s just part of the ‘post-truth’ era you keep telling us we live in now?
And she was supposedly proud of it?
“Warren asserted on numerous occasions during the campaign that being Native American was a fundamental and important part of who she was and that she would not walk away from her family’s heritage. Yet at no point during her life did Warren affiliate with any Native American tribe, join any Native American organizations on campus or elsewhere, or in any way interact with any Native American community.
Warren only represented herself as Native American for employment purposes starting in the mid-1980s, then dropped that representation after gaining tenure at Harvard Law School in the mid-1990s.
The Boston Globe reported that Warren received recognition as a “minority” law professor while at U. Penn Law School:
“The University of Pennsylvania, where Warren taught at the law school from 1987 through 1995, listed her as a minority in a “Minority Equity Report” posted on its website. The report, published in 2005, well after her departure, included her as the winner of a faculty award in 1994. Her name was highlighted in bold, the designation used for minorities in the report.”
Politico uncovered that in 1997 The Fordham Law Journal listed Warren as Harvard Law School’s first “woman of color” on the faculty:
“There are few women of color who hold important positions in the academy, Fortune 500 companies, or other prominent fields or industries,” the piece says…In my three years at Stanford Law School, there were no professors who were women of color. Harvard Law School hired its first woman of color, Elizabeth Warren, in 1995.””
Harvard Law Professor Charles Fried, a member of the hiring committee at the time, has asserted that he was not aware that Warren claimed to be Native American until after she was hired.
Harvard Law School has not released the original hiring records to confirm Fried’s recollection.
You’ve been frothing at the mouth about Trump’s tax returns not being released, are you similarly concerned about why Harvard won’t release the records that would provide definitive proof as to whether or not Senator Warren’s checking the Native American box gave her hiring preference?
In your own words…
The office of senator is also a position of trust (or at least, should be…) is it not? And you and other lefties would be ecstatic if she chose to run for president in 2020 would you not? Should she be held to the same level of scrutiny you are demanding of President Trump? Or do your ‘standards’ only apply to conservatives?
Well, I know lefties tend to not put much stock in the Bible or Christian references, but I think the principle is applicable, even if you don’t give much weight to the source:
“and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much.” (Luke 16:10)
Much of the criticism of President Trump consists of various claims of a lack of honesty – again, are you willing to apply the same standards and level of scrutiny to anyone on the left?
I don’t recall anyone having a conniption fit over Bill’s tax returns. He *was* impeached (and had to give up his law license, along with paying out more than ¾ of a million dollars to Paula Jones and a $90,000 fine for perjury), but his business prior to becoming president was still as a public figure…so, again, do (or did) *YOU* apply the same standards to him that you now want applied to Trump?
As far as Hillary, she apparently considered her public business as Sec State to be private enough to set up her own server system to bypass FOIA requirements…
I do not consider that to be private.
But what she does now? As long as she stays the hell out of politics, I hope she stays private enough that I never hear her name again…