Jay Nordlinger:
Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic has had several interviews with President Obama. These interviews have concerned foreign policy, and America’s place in the world. Goldberg has now written a big, magisterial piece, conveying what Obama thinks. And how this president judges his own presidency. (Positively!)
Obama says a number of thoughtful and sensible things. I will not concentrate on them in this column. I will concentrate — you’ll forgive me — on some other things.
“The president,” writes Goldberg, “believes that Churchillian rhetoric and, more to the point, Churchillian habits of thought, helped bring his predecessor, George W. Bush, to ruinous war in Iraq. Obama entered the White House bent on getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan; he was not seeking new dragons to slay.”
Unfortunately, dragons often seek you out. And you can slay them, deny their existence, temporize with them — there are options. Often, the drama comes down to: slay or be torched.
As for Churchill, the world was pretty fortunate to have him, I think. And I have a memory of Zell Miller, the veteran Georgia Democrat. About George W. Bush, he said, “This is a president who has some Churchill in him and who does not flinch when the going gets tough.” Miller is a very different kind of Democrat from Obama.
Now there is the matter of Bush’s “ruinous war in Iraq.” In my view, Obama’s handling of Iraq was ruinous. Indeed, one of the worst things about his presidency. I think he petulantly wanted to wash his hands of that country, and American sacrifices there.
And we have been, of course, drawn back in.
Goldberg writes, “Obama generally believes that the Washington foreign-policy establishment, which he secretly disdains, makes a fetish of ‘credibility’ — particularly the sort of credibility purchased with force.”
It’s wrong to make a fetish of anything, I guess. But the importance of credibility in world affairs is fundamental. If a president doesn’t quite buy this concept, or get it, that is a problem.
But say this for Obama: He has not made credibility a fetish, by a long shot. If his aim was to put a dent in credibility: mission accomplished.
Obama drew a red line in Syria. Then he shrank from it. Here is Goldberg:
… the president had grown queasy. In the days after the gassing of Ghouta, Obama would later tell me, he found himself recoiling from the idea of an attack unsanctioned by international law or by Congress. The American people seemed unenthusiastic about a Syria intervention; so too did one of the few foreign leaders Obama respects, Angela Merkel, the German chancellor. She told him that her country would not participate in a Syria campaign. And in a stunning development, on Thursday, August 29, the British Parliament denied David Cameron its blessing for an attack.
1. Setting international law aside, Obama was worried about a lack of sanction by Congress? Mr. Unilateral? President Unilateral? Mr. Executive Order? Mr. “Congress? What Congress?” Amazing.
2. The American people seemed unenthusiastic? Okay — but a job of leadership is to persuade. It is to try to make people understand why something is important. It is, in short, to lead.
Plus, “the people” hire you to make some tough decisions.
One more thing: How did Obama, or anyone else, know that the American people (there are a lot of them) “seemed unenthusiastic”? A poll?
3. I am reminded of Michael Gove, after that parliamentary vote. He was then education minister. (Now he is justice minister.) The victorious MPs were cheering wildly. They were jubilant at having blocked action in Syria. Gove shouted at them, “You’re a disgrace!”
Later, he explained, “There were Labour MPs cheering as though it were a football match and they’d just won, and at the same time on the news we were hearing about an attack on a school in Syria. The death toll there was rising and the incongruity of Labour MPs celebrating as children had been killed by a ruthless dictator got to me.”
Jeffrey Goldberg quotes a very interesting observation by Abdullah II, King of Jordan: “I think I believe in American power more than Obama does.”
To say it again, Obama drew back from his red line in Syria. “I’m very proud of this moment,” he told Goldberg.
I can understand thinking, “It was the right thing to do, grim a decision as it was to make. A hard thing to swallow, given the carnage in Syria. But, in the end, I thought it was the right thing to do. The non-action was right.”
But proud? Really? Nay, very proud? “I’m very proud of this moment”?
There is all too much pride among us humans, and not enough humility.
As Goldberg’s article proves, there is one thing Obama is entirely certain of (apart from his own ability): the grave threat that climate change poses to the earth.
This conviction has long puzzled me. I believe that people will look back on our era as one of mass hysteria, where climate change is concerned. Mass hysteria, fear-mongering, and falsification. It could be, however, that the alarmists will be proven right.
Wish I could know …
Here is Goldberg: Obama “has come to learn, he told me, that very little is accomplished in international affairs without U.S. leadership.”
I’m reminded a little of Jimmy Carter, and his dawning understanding of the Soviets. This was after their invasion of Afghanistan.
Obama told Goldberg, “For all of our warts, the United States has clearly been a force for good in the world. If you compare us to previous superpowers, we act less on the basis of naked self-interest, and have been interested in establishing norms that benefit everyone. If it is possible to do good at a bearable cost, to save lives, we will do it.”
You know, I’m a little surprised at this statement of Obama’s. (No offense.) I’m impressed. I doubt that Obama’s profs and classmates at Columbia U, or elsewhere, would approve. What would Said say?
Anyway, good.
In the end, he DID do the right thing in not getting involved in Syria; we had absolutely no interests there. Of course, drawing his red (later pink) line was a grievous error that severely damaged US credibility which, of course, he doesn’t obsess over.
Curt I think Obama realized after the attack that we were in fact NOT SURE who launched that gas attack
It is believed that the sari used in the attacks came from Ghaddafi
Thanks Obama! The rightards thought you were being a slacker in Cuba. Damn, you’re cold! Lol!: Haji Imam, ISIS ‘Second in Command,’ Killed by U.S. in Syria
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/25/haji-imam-isis-second-in-command-killed-by-u-s-in-syria.html
And of course, the losers on the right find ways to blame Obama. If Ronald Reagan did it, he’d be your hero. You’d have him carved into the side of Mt. Rushmore by now.
But, but, but Obama was watching a baseball game in Cuba and didn’t immediately end a Historic American diplomatic meeting with a country that we haven’t been able to enter in 80+ years. (whine) He didn’t recognize that he’s the President of Belgium too and has total control of what the Belgium government does in response to a terrorist attack on their own soil. *sigh*
At what point do you halfwits grow tired of eating your own words and always being flat wrong??? I mean, does it ever happen? At what point do you feel humiliation at consistently being WRONG?
Ignorance and arrogance is a BAD combination. Good luck with that.
@Reem: Bow young lady, it is admirable that your 2nd grade class showed you how to cut and paste paragraphs, but here at flopping aces we try to understand issues and pose questions and or possible solutions. If you are going to play on the computer, please go to the Huffington Post. You are more suited for playing with the children who play there!