The Obama Doctrine: American Lives Are Expendable

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Karin McQuillan @ The American Thinker:

The Obama White House, the Clinton State Department, and Panetta’s Department of Defense have guiding principles in Afghanistan that, if applied to Benghazi, explain the administration’s decision to deny air support to the Americans fighting for their lives on 9/11/12.

The denial of air support to our troops in battle is normal operating procedure for this commander in chief.  He doesn’t have to give special orders to do it.  It is the Obama Doctrine on the War on Terror: do not kill Muslim civilians.  Let American soldiers die instead.  That is how Obama thinks he will win the hearts and minds of the Islamic world.

In Afghanistan, the military is required to deny air support, even in the midst of battle, if it could possibly result in civilian casualties.  Under Obama, it is required that the military sacrifice the lives of our soldiers when jihadis are firing from population areas.  The Benghazi safe house where Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith, and the others were defending themselves against al-Qaeda was in a neighborhood.  Therefore, if the Afghanistan rules of engagement were applied, no air support and no reinforcements would be sent.

Following the same mindset, the Clinton State Department’s main diplomatic principle is to show how much we respect Muslim sensibilities.  Ambassador Stevens’ repeated requests to not withdraw his U.S. Marine security detail were denied by the State Department on those grounds.  Just a few weeks before 9/11, Stevens was reduced to relying on local Libyan militia for his safety and the safety of his staff.  He was scared for his life, and on 9/11, he gave his life.  He was sacrificed to the Obama administration’s diplomatic doctrine.

Testimony from Eric Allan Nordstrom, Regional Security Officer, Tripoli, at Congressman Issa’s hearings into Benghazi:

Our long term security plan in Libya was to recruit and deploy an armed, locally hired Libyan bodyguard unit. However, because of Libyan political sensitivities, armed private security companies were not allowed to operate in Libya. Therefore, our existing, uniformed static local guard force, both in Tripoli and Benghazi were unarmed … armed security in Libya was still a new and sensitive concept to the Libyan Government. Abuses of Qaddafi foreign mercenaries were still fresh in the minds of the Libya people.

Under the Obama administration, the lives and safety of American diplomats and military personnel come third after respecting Muslim lives and sensibilities.  This is the Obama idea of how to win what his predecessor called the War on Terror.

Benghazi, September 11, 2012: The White House is alerted at 1:00 in the afternoon that the consulate is under hostile surveillance, and at 4:00 p.m. that the consulate is under attack.  According to FBI and National Counterterrorism Center briefings to Congress, our intelligence services intercept real-time e-mails from Al Qaeda fighters celebrating their attack.

Our military is instructed to send an unarmed drone to monitor the battle raging in Benghazi.

From all reports, it seems that President Obama chose not to go to the Situation Room in the White House to monitor the battle as it was streamed on live video from two sources: the consulate building and the drone.  He didn’t follow the radioed messages for help as they arrived in real time.

This is how Obama described his actions on 9/11, during the second presidential debate:

I know these folks, and I know their families. So nobody’s more concerned about their safety and security than I am.  So as soon as we found out that the Benghazi consulate was being overrun, I was on the phone with my national security team, and I gave them three instructions. Number one, beef up our security and – and – and procedures not just in Libya but every embassy and consulate in the region.

Obama here says he immediately made a phone call to “beef up our security and procedures [at] every embassy in the [Middle East].”  The president does not say he gave orders to send reinforcements during the battle in Benghazi.

At 5:00 p.m., reports say the president held a previously scheduled meeting in the Oval Office with his political hack and “national security advisor” Tom Donilon, Secretary of Defense Panetta, and Vice President Biden.

That is all we hear of Obama’s involvement.  Obama had to be up in the morning for a Las Vegas fundraiser.  He tells us he was not involved at 4:00 a.m., when Tyrone Woods last radioed for help that never came, and was killed by mortar fire.

Jim Hoft at thegatewaypundit explains the import of Woods painting the jihadi target with a laser:

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O.K. I’ll bite.

Of course, American lives are expendable. Why did we invade Iraq, at the cost of thousands of expendable American lives? For the greater good. We’ve always done this. Not just in wars, but also in the CIA, where agents have been sent on virtual suicide missions. I shouldn’t need to belabor this point. You risk lives to save lives. You knowingly sacrifice lives to save lives. Any President who has ever started a war knowingly sacrifices American lives for some seemingly greater cause. Since when did conservative Republicans become pacifists?

I don’t know the details of what happened in Libya, and neither does anyone else bloviating about it on this blog. You guys quote Fox News “sources,” which contradict each other at times, as proven fact. And these “sources,” even if they have their facts straight, don’t begin to tell the whole story or answer the most important questions.

So I’m just going to go ahead and be the Devil’s advocate here. Simply for the sake of a thought experiment, I’m going to hypothetically stipulate that Obama and Panetta personally knew that there were two CIA agents (the ex-Seals) under assault. They could have sent in a big gunship aircraft, but intentionally didn’t.

Why would they make this decision?

Unlike Iraq and Iran and Afghanistan and Pakistan, the Libyans actually like us. Libya actually has the chance to be cultivated as a much needed ally in this part of the world. Panetta said that they didn’t know what was on the ground there. I’ve reminded people before of what happened with the Black Hawk Down rescue mission. We went in, guns blazing, with a crack rescue unit, only to get ambushed, with disastrous consequences. The embassy in question was in a civilian area. We send in a gunship, cannons blazing, and there might well have been lots of collateral civilian damage, which would have turned not only the Libyan government but also the Libyan citizenry against us. It’s possible that a calculation was made to hold off on relieving the CIA agents under seige and leave them to their own devices, until the whole situation could be assessed, and a viable rescue plan implemented that did not so endanger civilians.

I don’t know. As I’ve written before, one day we will know. There’s nothing at all wrong with asking questions, but there’s a whole lot wrong with jumping to purely unfounded conclusions, used to support absolutely outrageous charges.

But it’s a political season, and politics is war, as well.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

The Obama White House, the Clinton State Department, and Panetta’s Department of Defense have guiding principles in Afghanistan that, if applied to Benghazi, explain the administration’s decision to deny air support to the Americans fighting for their lives on 9/11/12.

The denial of air support to our troops in battle is normal operating procedure for this commander in chief.

This is total horseshit, largely propagated by FOX News and the rest of Rupert Murdoch’s right-wing media empire.

This article appeared yesterday in the Washington Post:

Fox News’s ‘laser’ claim: Official calls it ‘Tom Clancy-level fiction’

The CIA and official military spokespersons have directly denied the claims made by FOX New’s anonymous sources. For example, there were no AC-130s at Sigonella at the time of the Benghazi attack.

This has been clearly stated. FOX News knows that. Yet they’re still making claims that these aircraft were available, but not sent. They did so on FOX News, not 15 minutes ago.

FOX News is knowingly lying to the American public, in an attempt to influence the outcome of a presidential election.

Bulls#%t Mountain: Episode I – The Phantom Menace

Jon Stewart lays out the truth about FOX News and baracktose intolerance. It’s funny. And true. (And has been removed from nearly every web site where it has been posted, so you might want to watch it quick before it disappears from this one as well. )

@Greg:

Well, there we have it. Greggie gets his political view from Jon Stewart. No wonder Greggie is such a warped person.

@retire05: Greggie as the BOHICA man I thank you.

This is how opie and the current government discuss expendable personal:
Minister of Labor: The Department of Labor wishes to report that the workers of Freedonia are demanding shorter hours.

Firefly: Very well, we’ll give them shorter hours. We’ll start by cutting their lunch hour to twenty minutes. And now, gentlemen, we’ve got to start looking for a new Treasurer.

Minister of Labor: But you appointed one last week!

Firefly: That’s the one I’m looking for.

Secretary of War: Gentlemen! Gentlemen! Enough of this. How about taking up the tax?

Firefly: How about taking up the carpet?

Secretary of War: I still insist we must take up the tax.

Firefly: He’s right. You’ve got to take up the tacks before you can take up the carpet.

Secretary of War (now exasperated): I give all my time and energy to my duties and what do I get?

Firefly: You get awfully tiresome after a while.

Secretary of War: Sir, you try my patience!

Firefly: I don’t mind if I do. You must come over and try mine sometime.

Secretary of War: That’s the last straw. I resign! I wash my hands of the whole business.

Firefly: That’s a good idea. You can wash your neck, too.

GREG
horse shit come from OBAMA,
FOX WENT ACROSS ALL CORNER TO PROVIDE THE VIEWERS
WITH FACTS,AND THE BEST KNOWLEDGEBLE MILITARY FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.
SO THEY DID A FUCKING GOOD JOBS, BETTER THAN YOUR HORSESHIT LIAR AND COWARD from way up
THE SHINNING HILLS.
STEWART IS A COMEDIAN WHO FABRICATE HIS FUNNY JOKES,

OH MITT ROMNEY WILL WIN
is that where you take your truth, wake up man
you smoke to much of that stuff

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:

I’ve reminded people before of what happened with the Black Hawk Down rescue mission. We went in, guns blazing, with a crack rescue unit, only to get ambushed, with disastrous consequences.

Two blackhawks went down after being hit trying to capture that warlord, Adid (I think that’s his name). There were some Rangers, PJs, and Combat Controllers circling when it happened, a QRF. It might be considered rash in your world to jump in and help when your brothers are trapped and dying. But for these guys, it is unconscionable to do nothing.

why don’t they bring those potstove heated with the coal of OHIO.
TO HEAT AND FEED THE PEOLE ON STATEN ISLAND, BRING ALL THEY NEED FOR HEATING
AND USTENSILES TO BE USE, THE ONE THEY HAVE ARE STAIN AND FULL OF BACTERY,
BRING SOME CONSTRUCTION TRAILORS

AQUA
hi,
did we learned from where the tip came to tell the enemy they where coming at that specific location to have one enemy ready with his portable lawnrocket arm ready to shoot first hand,
some one tiped for sure, could it have been one of those trained AFGHANS WHO WHERE SHOOTING THE AMERICAN TRAINERS IN THE BACK,
and in BENGHASI, OBAMA hired muslims groop those number 7 who became melted with the ALQUAEDA.
HE TRUSTED THEM ENOUGH TO TAKE THEIR WORDS AND LET THE AMERICANS BRAVES DIE FIGHTING WAITING TILL THE END,
WAS THE PRESIDENT COMMITING ACT OF TREASON?
WELL HE WAS IN CONTACT WITH THOSE HE TRUSTED , COULD HE HAVE TELL THEM HOW THE AMERICANS WHERE CONSTANTLY ASKING FOR SUPPORT, BECAUSE THEY FELT DANGER,
SO THE BROTHER HOOD REPORTED TO THEIR BROTHER HOOD OR NOT, THE FACT THAT IT WAS AN EASY JOB, PIECE OF CAKE. anything is possible, because he did not explained yet.

I guess these guys don’t exactly support the Obama Doctrine or the view that Romney is not fit to be CiC.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/nov/4/retired-top-military-brass-push-romney/

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:

There’s nothing at all wrong with asking questions, but there’s a whole lot wrong with jumping to purely unfounded conclusions, used to support absolutely outrageous charges.

What about stonewalling on answering those questions? What about hiding behind a press that is becoming ever so obvious they are in the tank for Obama, highlighted by Brian William’s outrageous interview with obama where he basically carried the president to where he needed to go in it?

Do you think any of that is wrong? Or, because it helps protect Obama, does that make it right?

Funny how when it came to Bin Laden the situation room was FULL…eyes and ears glued…then when things went great…Ofraud took FULL CREDIT….over and over and over and over again…

Not so much on Benhgazi huh??