The Next Commie Movement – ‘Wage Justice’

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Kelly Irons:

How do you know when a movement reeks of communism? Easy – it is supported by a major American union.

The Service Employees International Union, filled with some of the most vile, Left-wing thugs around, is one of the major players behind a ridiculous push to kill the only employment millions of Americans can find while raising the price of cheeseburgers to ten bucks.

On Thursday, according to reports, the SEIU and other groups will sponsor or support hundreds of protests in cities around the country aimed at forcing the fast-food industry to increase workers’ wages to $15. The New York Times reports:

Seeking to increase pressure on McDonald’s, Wendy’s and other fast-food restaurants, organizers of a movement demanding a $15-an-hour wage for fast-food workers say they will sponsor one-day strikes in 100 cities on Thursday and protest activities in 100 additional cities.

The protests have expanded greatly since November 2012, when 200 fast-food workers engaged in a one-day strike at more than 20 restaurants in New York City, the first such walkout in the history of the nation’s fast-food industry.

“There’s been pretty huge growth in one year,” said Kendall Fells, one of the movement’s main organizers. “People understand that a one-day strike is not going to get them there. They understand that this needs to continue to grow.”

The movement, which includes the groups Fast Food Forward andFight for 15, is part of a growing union-backed effort by low-paid workers — including many Walmart workers and workers for federal contractors — that seeks to focus attention on what the groups say are inadequate wages.

The fast-food effort is backed by the Service Employees International Union and is also demanding that restaurants allow workers to unionize without the threat of retaliation.

As part of its stealth campaign to support this latest push for “wage justice,” the Times picked, right on cue, a 23-year-old interviewee with a Hispanic-sounding name to illustrate the travesty of it all:

Simon Rojas, who earns $8.07 an hour working at a McDonald’s in South Central Los Angeles, said he would join Thursday’s one-day strike.

“It’s very difficult to live off $8.07 an hour,” said Mr. Rojas, 23, noting that he is often assigned just 20 or 25 hours of work a week. “I have to live with my parents. I would like to be able to afford a car and an apartment.”

Mr. Rojas said he had studied for a pharmacy technician’s certificate, but he had been unable to save the $100 needed to apply for a license.

Boo-hoo, Mr. Rojas. If you’re only working 20 hours a week, that leaves plenty of time to find a second job. But apparently he’d rather spend a day protesting the only employer he has, which is probably the dumbest thing he could do.

But such idiocy is, of course, playing right into the hands of the union masterminds. They don’t give two shits about little people like Simon Rojas; all they want is to increase their power and numbers, which have (thankfully) been declining for years.

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@Richard Wheeler: :You didn’t ask my opinion on this, but I find it interesting, so I’ll give you my opinion:

I’d be interested on your thoughts re Pope Francis recent message on poverty, decrying the “idolotry of money” and calling on all politicians to guarantee all citizens “dignified work, education and health care.”

First, it seems clear the Pope is Communist.
but take this statement: (I’ll assume it was correctly translated, as you state:)

calling on all politicians to guarantee all citizens “dignified work, education and health care.”

How could that be accomplished? Who would make those persons that are ‘guaranteed dignified work’ actually show up for that work, considering they would have their ‘standard’ of life guaranteed whether they worked or not. If I can get up in my millionaire’s house, travel in my limo, have all the food and luxuries I want and not go to a job, why would I go to a job? Who would grow the crops that all these ‘rich’ persons need to eat? Why would they grow crops if they don’t need a job to have all the luxuries everyone is ‘entitled’ to? There may be some planet somewhere that all the secular progressives can go and enjoy their communist haven, but I haven’t heard of it. I suspect that you will say you don’t really think these things should be ‘guaranteed’ without some actual effort by the ‘receive-ee’s.

@retire05: You’re saying the lamestream media misquoted Pope Francis? You are unbelievable 05.

@Richard Wheeler: @retire05:

You’re saying the lamestream media misquoted Pope Francis?

That is not what I said (never using the term “lamestream”) and you damn well know it.

But yes, Pope Francis HAS been misquoted. I’ll leave it to you to figure out when.

You are unbelievable 05.

Ever quick with the snarky insults, aren’t you, RW?

I repeat:

Again, when did you gain such respect for my opinion?

is that what the POPE ASK FOR?
THIS IS WORDS LIKE ANY LEADERS’ WORDS,, PROTECT THEIR OWN WEALTH
WHAT DO THEY GIVE TO THEIR EMPLOYEES?
ONLY WHAT THEY RECEIVED FROM THE PEOPLE,
NOT WHAT THEY HAVE, WHAT THEY EARN FROM THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE STRUGGLING SO TO PAY FOR THEIR TRAVEL IN A LUXURIUS PLANE,
SURROUNDED BY THOSE WHO LACE THEIR SHOES,
IS THAT WHAT THEY HAVE THE ARROGANCE TO DEMAND THE BUSINESS OWNERS,
WHO MUST FEED THEIR OWN FAMILY AND GET THEIR NEEDS,
IF YOU WANT TO SAY WHAT IS EQUITABLE, SHOW IT YOURSELF,
YOU AS LEADERS MUST TEACH NOT BY WORDS BUT BY EXAMPLE,
BEFORE PREACHING HIGH ABOVE ON YOUR SEAT,
OR YOU ARE LOOKED AT AS A FRAUD,

@Redteam: SAYS ” It seems clear the Pope is a Communist.”
I don’t have a remark “snarky” enough to deride that comment*.You don’t understand Pope Francis’ comments. No surprise.

What are you—an anti-Catholic bayou evangelical?

“It seems clear the Pope is a Communist.”

Actually what the Pope is is a Christian. Not because he claims the label, but because he actually follows the words of Christ.

Try to reconcile Christ’s teachings with the philosophy of Ayn Rand and see how far you get before fundamental choices have to be made.

@Richard Wheeler:

You don’t understand Pope Francis’ comments.

A comment which indicated you do.

Perhaps you can share with us your extensive scholarship in Catholic doctrine that allows you to be able to understand Pope Francis’ comments?

@Greg:

Actually what the Pope is is a Christian. Not because he claims the label, but because he actually follows the words of Christ.

And what words would those be, Greggie? Or is that another question you will dodge?

@Richard Wheeler:

@Redteam: SAYS ” It seems clear the Pope is a Communist.”

The problem is RW that I relied on your quote to represent what the Pope said, it turns out that he didn’t say anything resembling what you said:

I’d be interested on your thoughts re Pope Francis recent message on poverty, decrying the “idolotry of money” and calling on all politicians to guarantee all citizens “dignified work, education and health care.”

But if you go back to my comment 51, I also said this:

but take this statement: (I’ll assume it was correctly translated, as you state:)

And as you well know your translation bore no resemblance to what he actually said. I will point out that initially Retire refused to comment on your translation because she didn’t feel as if you were capable of translating it correctly and as it so turns out, she was correct. Now if you think you did, provide me a link to his quote about ‘providing dignified work.

@Richard Wheeler:

You’re saying the lamestream media misquoted Pope Francis? You are unbelievable 05.

Turns out you were the perpetrator of the misquote.

@Richard Wheeler:

@Redteam: SAYS ” It seems clear the Pope is a Communist.”

More misquote’s by RW. You left off the part about

(I’ll assume it was correctly translated, as you state:)

which would make my statement complete. You don’t have the right to ‘edit’ my quote. I stated it based only on the premise that you were correct, which we now know you were not.

@Richard Wheeler:

What are you—an anti-Catholic bayou evangelical?

Is that one of the common religious groups out there on the Left coast? Actually I read a considerable amount of the 229 page document, looking for the quote about ‘dignified’ work and turns out, I couldn’t find it. Even used their search feature looking for it and couldn’t find it, that’s why I asked you for a link to it.

@Greg:

with the philosophy of Ayn Rand

You a fan of Rand are you? I’m not.

@Greg:

Actually what the Pope is is a Christian.

After spending a good while this afternoon, watching football and perusing that 224 page document of the Pope’s, hmmmm, philosophy I guess, I ‘d most likely agree with you. He made a couple statements I don’t agree with about capitalism, especially ‘trickle-down’ which don’t make sense, but other than that, I’d say his document was mostly Christian. All religions are based almost solely on the principle of trickle down and share the wealth, through Christian beliefs, not Communist confiscation and redistribution. Each person is expected to work hard to provide for themselves and their families and for those that are not as fortunate or lucky. No Christian believes they are supposed to sit on their butts and be fed by the hard work of their neighbors. I think if you read the Pope’s document, you’ll find that philosophy much closer to what he said than what RW liberally applied as a translation, which bears no resemblance.

@retire05, #58:

I suggest you have a look in the New Testament. Surely you can find something there that applies without having passages quoted to you by a progressive/liberal/communist such as myself. If you find anything that offends your sensibilities, I suggest you take it up later with the author.

You might also want to discuss your theory that “if you’re an adult and you still live in poverty, you are morally deficient.”.

@Greg:

I suggest you have a look in the New Testament. Surely you can find something there that applies without having passages quoted to you by a progressive/liberal/communist such as myself. If you find anything that offends your sensibilities, I suggest you take it up later with the author.

Ah, once again, the infamous never ending Greggie dodge. How about you providing quotes from the New Testament and back up your statements? Or are you afraid you will turn into salt if you held a Bible?

You might also want to discuss your theory that poverty beyond the age of 30 is indicative of a moral deficiency.

I have. Multiple times. Your cognitive disorder is your problem, not mine.

The hypothetical discussion I was alluding to wasn’t with me. Refer to Matthew 25:31-46.

And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.

Dodge the meaning of that.

@Greg:

Sorry, Greggie, but I don’t see anything there that speaks of the generosity of government via the Roman sword. Perhaps you can show me where Christ was not talking to the individual, but addressing people as one body of government? Where did Christ say that the Romans should take the money the people earned and perform charitable works with that money and then all the people could feel good about themselves because the government forced them into charity?

You no more understand the teachings of Jesus Christ than you understand the Chinese language.

If you mean I’m not a follower of the New and Improved Republican Jesus, you’re correct. His bling featuring a golden dollar sign, the fact that he changed the spelling of prophets to profits, and the fact that he was packing a sidearm all made me suspicious.

Greg
no, what you are is a blind follower of OBAMA AND HIS HELPERS,
YES YOU ARE ON THE LEFT HAND, THE STUPID GOAT,

@Redteam:” I was misquoted.” Nathan Hale
You perused the Pope’s 229 page #62 er 224 page #64 ” philosophy” between football games. That’s funny.

Greq #69 There it is.

Aqua We got it FSU VS AUBURN B.L PICK EM

@Richard Wheeler: RW, you are getting terrible of using ‘misquotes’, where did I say I perused them ‘between’ games?

between football games. That’s funny.

Actually I have a brain that allows me to watch football and read at the same time.
By the way, ‘most often the only way libs can try to make an argument is to start with a misquote and then defend their position. i.e., they start in a hole and continue diggin. Did you ever visit, whentostopdiggin.com?

We got it FSU VS AUBURN B.L PICK EM

there is no way you could have been for either of those teams, you only pick losers. Remember the Dodgers and the Cardinals? Obama?
or do you now use the correct spelling obam-me?

@Richard Wheeler:

Greq #69 There it is.

There’s currently quite a bit of hypocrisy going on with respect to Jesus, do you consider that a badge of honor?

@Richard Wheeler: Point me to the quote where I said I was proud to have picked Obama any number of times. I can point you to your predictions of the Dodgers all the way and then the Cardinals all the way. Both very wrong. As I said, you pick losers, obam-me anyone?

@Redteam: Well maybe you weren’t “proud” to pick BHO TWICE. But again, I give you credit for having the political savvy to know he was going to win. Good job.

@Richard Wheeler: ,

But again, I give you credit for having the political savvy to know he was going to win.

Well, while it might be political savvy, I think it was more the case that the Republicans were dumb enough to elect two different RINO’s for the post, but certified political losers from the conservative perspective. But on a lighter note, I was certainly for both Auburn and FSU yesterday. In the case of Auburn, it was either them or Overrated State Univ or the SEC, the SEC, being the strongest conference deserved the post. FSU, since I’m from near there, originally, I’ve always been a fan. I would rather it be LSU vs FSU, but it was not LSU’s year, should be better next year. (who, in their right mind, could pull for Duke?) I especially enjoyed the ending of the OSU-MSU game. Suburban Meyers looked a little dejected (for good reason)

@Redteam: “hypocrisy with respect to Jesus.” What’s the punch line?

The Repubs didn’t elect Mac and Mitt. They nominated them.

I’ve been an LSU fan since the days of Billy Cannon and The Chinese Bandits. They gave Auburn their only loss this year

@Richard Wheeler:

The Repubs didn’t elect Mac and Mitt. They nominated them.

Then what were all those state primary elections about ?

BTW, you said to Redteam:

You don’t understand Pope Francis’ comments.

To which I replied

A comment which indicated you do.

Perhaps you can share with us your extensive scholarship in Catholic doctrine that allows you to be able to understand Pope Francis’ comments?

Still waiting on you to share that extensive scholarship in Catholic doctrine that allows you to be able to understand Pope Francis’ comments.

@Richard Wheeler: 78 in 71 you said :

Greq #69 There it is.

I was just pointing to the hypocrisy of Greg in 69 which you seemed to be an admirer of.

The Repubs didn’t elect Mac and Mitt. They nominated them.

so you’re a stickler for semantics, are you?

They gave Auburn their only loss this year

Did you see me in that sea of fans on the LSU side at that game?

@Richard Wheeler:

BTW, you said to Redteam:
You don’t understand Pope Francis’ comments.
To which I replied
A comment which indicated you do.

By the way RW, you never did give me that link that you said referred to the Pope saying that persons are ‘entitled’ to dignified work. You get lost in that 224 page document?

@Richard Wheeler:

and calling on all politicians to guarantee all citizens “dignified work, education and health care.”

that’s the quote I’m looking for, it was in comment 44. I know you are the father of the ‘misquote’ but surely there is some basis.

Redteam
THE POPE DID NOT SAY, LETS PUT THEM ALL ON WELFARE,
BYE

@ilovebeeswarzone: Bees, “THE POPE DID NOT SAY, LETS PUT THEM ALL ON WELFARE,
BYE ” Very true and he also ‘did not say’ let’s guarantee everyone a job’. RW frequently uses quotes that he can’t link to.

From the EVANGELII GAUDIUM OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS TO THE BISHOPS, CLERGY, CONSECRATED PERSONS AND THE LAY FAITHFUL ON THE PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL IN TODAY’S WORLD:

55. One cause of this situation is found in our relationship with money, since we calmly accept its dominion over ourselves and our societies. The current financial crisis can make us overlook the fact that it originated in a profound human crisis: the denial of the primacy of the human person! We have created new idols. The worship of the ancient golden calf (cf. Ex 32:1-35) has returned in a new and ruthless guise in the idolatry of money and the dictatorship of an impersonal economy lacking a truly human purpose. The worldwide crisis affecting finance and the economy lays bare their imbalances and, above all, their lack of real concern for human beings; man is reduced to one of his needs alone: consumption.

56. While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules. Debt and the accumulation of interest also make it difficult for countries to realize the potential of their own economies and keep citizens from enjoying their real purchasing power. To all this we can add widespread corruption and self-serving tax evasion, which have taken on worldwide dimensions. The thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule.

It’s an interesting document.

Greg
that”s what happen with the Democrats, THEY PUT IN POWER A SACRED COW TO BE ADORE BY THE HALF
OF AMERICA, and look how low she has descend now,

@Greg: That’s why there is separation of powers. The Catholic church should espouse those principles and ask the people to follow Christian principles. Since there are Dimocrats and Liberals and Muslims in the world, don’t expect too much success. And don’t expect your buddy Mandela to be an adherent to those principles.

@Redteam:

I’m wondering; who do they think will be doing the “undignified work” required in our civilization.

@Nanny G: #46

I had an economics professor years ago who pointed out that, were all money collected up and meted out equally, a short time later those who had been poor would again be poor.

I wonder if that is the same guy I saw interviewed on TV many years ago who said that if the money was divided equally among the people, that in 5-6 years, the ones who had the money before would have it again. Judging by what so many people do when they get a lot of money, I can believe it.

MANY RICH WORK SO HARD AND SPEND ON THEIR BUSINESSES,
MORE THEN THEMSELVE, YOU SEE THEM IN JEANS CASUAL,
AND YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW THEY ARE RICH,