John O’Sullivan:
Today there occurs the first telephone call between President Trump and Russian President Putin. It will be a significant moment because both men have suggested that they want a better Russo–American relationship to be a main element in their foreign policies. That’s bound to be controversial when Russia is engaged in an ongoing war in Ukraine. But it’s especially so because allegations have been circulating in recent weeks that Russia “hacked” the U.S. presidential election to elect Trump. U.S. intelligence agencies have issued statements supporting the milder versions of this theory. And private intelligence agencies with links not only to them but also to Britain’s MI6 have been peddling salacious stories that Trump was probably vulnerable to blackmail by Russian intelligence, if he was not actually a Russian agent, the Manchurian candidate in fact. Some important people have been seriously worried by these stories; some Democrats and Never Trumpers, seriously delighted by them. So will Trump open up the conversation on some such lines as “Reporting in, boss. What is it today? Blowing up Brussels? Or switching sides on Ukraine?”
Some odd things are happening. But what? I think we should be told.
Maybe I should start with a brief declaration of non-interest. This article is not prompted by pro-Trump partisanship. I was a supporter of Ted Cruz in the primaries and, late in the day, urged voting for Trump in the general election because I thought Hillary Clinton was the greater threat to American liberty. I was delighted that Trump made immigration a major election-winning issue but very dubious about his economic protectionism. I hoped that despite his flaws, he would bring new constituencies of “forgotten Americans” into the GOP tent, as he seems to have done. And I was (and am) mystified by the apparent contradictions in his personality, since he seems to be by turns calculating and impulsive, harsh and generous, shrewd and clueless, ignorant and well informed, a lonely decision-maker surrounded by loyal friends and helpful advisers. It’s sensible to be worried about how such a complex figure will perform as president but rash to make firm predictions about it.
Okay, now to the nub, the gist, or the kernel of the controversy. Did Russia hack the U.S. presidential election? And the answer is plainly “No.” The commonsense meaning of “hacking the election” is using electronic methods to turn votes for A into votes for B. That never happened. Or, to be precise, no one has produced any evidence of its happening or any other reason to think it might have happened. My distinguished colleagues, Andrew McCarthy, Victor Davis Hanson, and Michael Barone have all produced variations on this point, and they have not been effectively answered. So, the election was not hacked, not for anyone’s benefit.
Let us dial down the outrage, then, and ask: Did the Russians try to influence the election? And the answer is that of course they did. If they think they can influence a U.S. election, they will do so — and most of the time they can do so legitimately by saying or hinting that they prefer one candidate to another. Most of the time, too, they prefer the incumbent to the challenger because they have usually learned to work with him after four years. Our NATO allies think exactly the same way. It doesn’t always play to the advantage of the more Russophile or (in past times) the pro-Soviet candidate. (The Soviets preferred Nixon over McGovern.) And the technical term for this kind of thing is diplomacy, albeit low-risk diplomacy.
On the other hand, if the Russians believe they can influence the election illegitimately — which will be rarely — they have to weigh the risks of doing so against the likely benefits of getting their favorite into the White House. A Henry Wallace might tip the scales toward such intervention; few other candidates would meet this standard — and Hillary Clinton does not qualify on the other side as someone whom the Russians would take risks to keep out of the White House. As secretary of state she accepted the Russian occupation of Georgia, withdrew the missile-defense programs from Poland and the Czech Republic, ignored the public appeal of East European leaders for a stronger U.S. commitment to resist Russian threats to their region, and pressed the famous “reset button” to signify a warmer relationship with Russia after the pro-democracy excesses of the George W. Bush years. She’s their kind of gal.
And, in addition, it seems that, like almost everyone else, they thought she was going to win.
The only circumstances in which the Kremlin might want to risk terminally alienating the potential next U.S. president would be if she offered them her head on a platter — which is exactly what Mrs. Clinton did when she installed a private server in someone’s basement and started playing fast and loose with U.S. security rules on secret communications. Leaking the results through some third party like WikiLeaks went from low-risk diplomacy to no-risk diplomacy because of the embarrassing fact that the stories being leaked were true.
This is now in danger of being forgotten or repressed in the rush to condemn Trump, but it explains why a Russian intelligence service might risk annoying the next tenant of the White House. There are limits to both risks and retaliation when all you are doing is accurately quoting your opponent. Mrs. Clinton and other Democrats are very assiduously drawing a veil over the outrageous things that the Russians are supposed to have done because their victim was also their accomplice. It is now the apparent intention of the Russian tactics — cui bono? who benefits? — to which Democrats now point with varying degrees of suspicion.
On the assumption that the Russians did intervene illegitimately, what was their purpose? There seem to me to be two very different possibilities. The first is that the Russians were attempting to show that American democracy is a ridiculous sham that no one can seriously admire or wish to emulate. David Satter advanced that interpretation in an NRO article, and it strikes me as being the more plausible of the two accounts. It fits perfectly into the long-standing Russian propaganda campaign, described by David and by Peter Pomerantsev in their recent books, to spread the word not that Russian authoritarianism is an attractive ideological system but that democracy is not much better, maybe even worse because it’s also hypocritical. This line of propaganda therefore appeals to a wider-than-usual range of possible converts because it takes in cynics.
The second possible purpose is that the Russians wanted to see the election of Donald Trump. That’s not necessarily criminal, of course, since they may simply believe they can work with him toward a more cooperative Russo–American relationship. Trump himself makes exactly this argument with a consistency that critics find worrying. Doesn’t it suggest that he might be in cahoots with them, they ask, a covert agent working for Putin? Well, it just possibly might, but surely it suggests at least as strongly that Trump thinks he has an important new U.S. grand strategy based on a U.S.–Russian alliance and, knowing it to be controversial, wants to make the case for it at every opportunity. (I don’t think he has a good strategy here myself, and it possible, even likely, that he will have to modify it greatly if Putin proves obdurate in his aggressiveness. But it is obvious that a friendly Russo–American relationship is desirable other things being equal.)
Just since Trump has begun as President, ISIS has been forced out of the oil smuggling business (as their largest income supply) and have settled on a new revenue stream: people smuggling!
Just like the Mexican drug cartels get a cut (via coyotes) for nearly every illegal who crosses our southern border, ISIS is trying to create choke points to Europe.
In those choke points THEY collect cash from “refugees.”
They also may be mixing in some fake refugees who are really fighters.
Trump and putin need to lead the world out of the mess left behind by Obama ISIS and the Useless Nations
Lawyer for Putin critic believes his client has been poisoned again
O’Reilly said Putin is a killer. Trump’s reply: ‘You think our country is so innocent?’
Compared to Mr. Putin? We’re far from perfect, but I think we generally try to hold ourselves to a much higher standard.
CNN Breaking News: Falcons Playbook Hacked by Russia?
@July 4th American: This will fix it! 😉
http://www.duffelblog.com/2017/02/dod-to-require-passwords-using-27-different-letters-minimum
Totally freaking unbelievable. Trump doesn’t want anyone pulling on the loose thread that’s the Russian connection story. Do you want to know why? Watch this video.
When things finally begin to unravel, and the meaning of it all finally begins to register, we’re probably going to be looking at a magnitude 8 political scandal. It’s going to be way the hell beyond anything we’ve ever seen before.
Don’t call this “fake news.” Failure to connect and report dots like these would be nothing less than journalistic malpractice. Failure of our elected officials to investigate with this sort of information directly in front of them would arguably be nothing less than treason.
New Commerce Secretary at nexus of lucrative Trump Russian deal
New Commerce Secretary at nexus of lucrative Trump Russian deal
Laughable from madcow…..
How does she self identify these days….
How many people watch her show, you(greg) and two others….
What is here is democrat subversion and tall tales. Everything the left has attempted post election pre inauguration and now post inauguration has failed. All they have left is to create this myth that there is some type of Russian coercion.
obama is behind this and he should be imprisoned.
@July 4th American, #8:
There’s nothing in the report that isn’t factual. The problem is that you can’t or won’t see the obvious pattern. Or maybe you just don’t care. Had any democrat been at the center of such a pattern, you’d be howling for an immediate and full investigation. You’d probably be forming up a lynch mob.
We’ve got Dmitri Rybolovlev, a billionaire Russian oligarch with ties to the Russian mafia, handing over $95 million to Trump for a white elephant property recently purchased for $41 million. That’s an odd-appearing exchange, which looks a lot more like a money transfer than a normal real estate transaction. This is how you might gain influence over someone, if nothing else. Revelations about one side of the transaction can strongly affect public perception of the other side. It might have been a Russian investment, where profit wasn’t the real objective. On Rybolovlev’s end, buying the enormously marked-up property certainly doesn’t look like a brilliant business move.
Then we’ve got billionaire Wilbur Ross, Jr, and his connections to Russian money laundering by way of the Bank of Cyprus. The Senate just confirmed this guy as Secretary of Commerce.
And there’s our new Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson—yet another billionaire, and a personal friend of Vladimir Putin.
Add that to all of the other indicators of Russian influence and entanglements, and what reaction do you get on the right?
You get this—along with handfuls of monkey dung, thrown at anyone in the media who dares to point out that something very odd and worrisome is going on, right in front of our faces.
Yeah, right. Obama.
The billionaire chronicles
That is rich
The most recent pub is 02\12\2012, WTF
The left has nothing but desperation.
Correct. 2012. It’s not like this was a bogus story, recently cooked up just for the current occasion. The Russian situation didn’t suddenly appear out of nowhere, any more than Vladimir Putin’s long-term ambitions are a recent development.
A vast left wing conspiracy designed to keep alive a meme that does not exist
Just a other Look, squirrel moment.
Haven’t you noticed? The guy you just put in the White House seems to be a professional squirrel spotter with a Twitter account. Distraction is his middle name.
Run along, no one is interested in fake theories or conspiracies.
How’s your sense of humor? There’s nothing quite like comedy that reflects reality. Be Less Stupid: Episode 35 – Trump’s Russia Connections
Total myth made up by the left. Run along with your conspiracy theories.
Notice no one here gives a shit.
Today, from the NYT: Sessions met with Russian envoy twice last year, encounters he later did not disclose
And from the BBC, 19 minutes ago: Trump Russia: House intelligence committee agrees to inquiry
@Greg: Greg, I hear that CNN is selling magic beans. Maybe you should trade your cow for them! Russian hacking the election is fake news. Clinton failed to protect her emails so who ever hacked the Clinton server had a clear path to all of the DNC. You noticed that the DNC and Clinton didn’t try to deny their underhanded activities revealed by the hack! Most 8th grade kids could have hacked Clinton’s server based upon her lack of adequate security.
Republicans investigated Hillary Clinton for 4 continuous years. Twenty million taxpayer dollars spent on the FBI investigation, $8 million on the final Benghazi investigation, and undisclosed totals on each of the 7 previous Benghazi investigations—all ultimately coming up empty. (Unless, of course, you want to count getting a guy elected president who never would have won the election without a multi-year project to slander his opponent.)
Since they love investigations so much, maybe they should try again with Trump and the Russian issue. They might have better luck. There are more leads to follow and more suspicious connections than you can shake a stick at—any one of which would have been more than sufficient to justify an investigation by Congressional committee, had the person involved been Hillary Clinton.
Cool there is going to be an investigation, when nothing is found they wont quit.
Pop some corn the Dems will continue to make fools of themselves as the party takes its last pathetic death rattle gasps. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-01/dnc-death-throes-caustic-vitriol-tantrums-and-calling-navy-seal%E2%80%99s-grieving-widow-idiot